>Trying to gain weight
>Consume over 3500 calories every day
>Somehow manage to LOSE weight
Can I get a CICOfag in here to tell me what's going on?
>Trying to gain weight
>Consume over 3500 calories every day
>Somehow manage to LOSE weight
Can I get a CICOfag in here to tell me what's going on?
Post exactly what you eat every day
Protip: you wont
i’m on a bulgarian Olympic weightlifting 8k calories a day diet plan and i’m losing weight. should i up the calories?
There's no fucking way in fuck you're losing weight on 8k calories a day lmao. How long have you been doing it?
he's just baiting
Post it OP
In the morning I have a pan full of bacon (I get about a pound and a third and that's good for one week) and 4 eggs. For lunch I have a third of a pound of pepperoni or the same weight in venison sticks, both sometimes with mozarella. For dinner it's a pound of sosig or burgers or sone other red meat. I also snack on raw yogurt with honey, exotic cheeses, or cocktail weenies, and I drink a gallon of raw milk a day, everyday.
pepperoni? like the vegetable or the salami or you eating a fucking pound of the Hispanice?
i never know when americans use terminology wrong
Like the meat that they put on pizza
Are you actually measuring everything and adding up the calories or just estimating?
this. it's the classic skinny fag mistake. They think they are eataing soooo much but when they actually put it into mmyfitnesspal they realise they aare missing their calorie goals by about 9900 or something.
Yeah nah m8
why is American milk lower fat than European lol
it even claims to be whole milk
>picrel real austrian milk macros 4% fat
I don't have stats on the actual milk I drink since I get it from a local farm, but I imagine that raw milk would have higher fat/calorie content than pasteurized whole milk. It definitely tastes sweeter and less "diluted" if that makes sense.
i actually just looked it up and american farmers use cows that yield more liquid milk but with lower fat and lower quality AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
quantity over quality i guess
America has been becoming China for the past 30 years
can't produce anything high quality anymore
not even milk XDDDDDDD
off by 1
Please say sike
Holstein cows have milk with higher lactose and lower milk fat. Also higher water content. Most commercial fairies are using Holsteins, but if you try you can find dairy farms with specialty breeds fairly easily. Most common dairy cow breed in the EU is also the Holstein, but Ayrshires, Normandés, Jerseys, and Swiss cattle make up higher percentages of the herds.
Milk fat percentage depends on the breed of cow and the cow’s diet/body composition. Most American dairy cows are Holsteins, which have lower milk fat than Jerseys or Brown Swiss.
>i need an app just to do simple additions
Ok rain man i'm sure you remember the calories of everything you eat in your head at the end of the day.
>Oh how many calories are in feta cheese again let me just go look at the packet to see and oh yeah i had 50 grams of oats and a some cottage cheese oh wait where did i put my notepad to keep track of this stuff. Oh and i made a chinese meal for lunch now i need to go check the calories in the 2 types of onions sauce and noodles i used
>click click click click oh seems i ate 2900 calories today better eat some more real quick.
Fuck off and take you superiority commplex with you grandpa. Your antiquated ways of doing things are not better.
Estimating, but I've tracked in the past and it averages to right around 3500, give or take a hundred or so.
what’s your height weight penis size and body count?
6' even
~175lbs
Penis just barely fits in TP tube when erect and the head pokes out an inch and a half from the end
Virgin until marriage
Start tracking again. Since you stopped actually tracking I bet your estimations have steadily gone down because you're going to be following your natural appetite much more. You think you're having 1/3rd a pound of something because of how you perceive it and your natural appetite/satiety is affecting that
No I know I'm eating a third of a pound of something because I get a pound of it at the market (often telling them it's fine if it's over a pound) and divide in into thirds to take for lunch.
Hope this is bait
Why would it be?
High test diet ngl
I wouldn't worry about it
yeah honey can be dangerous
your bacon loses most of its calories after cooking unless you drink all the leftover fat.
I almost always fry the eggs and my dinner in the fat
I eat the exact same thing but my milk is pasteurized. Is this why i'm not growing?
Post used milk jugs as GOMAD proof
Are you doing keto on purpose? If not, add in white rice and some veg. Also, I’d recommend putting a typical day of your diet (actually measure everything, don’t guess) into my fitness pal to see what your actual calories and macros are. Depending on your activity level and bodyweight, there is a chance you’re under eating still but likelihood is that you’re underestimating how much you are actually eating. Other than that, you may not have been on the diet long enough to see changes in weight. Weigh yourself daily at the same time and look at how your weight is trending overall.
>Are you doing keto on purpose?
I don't know what that is. I just started eating like this because someone told me about ancient mongolian steppe warriors having meat & dairy diets due to nomadic culture and how they dominated surrounding grain-fed countries in combat.
Here's two I haven't put in the bin yet
Keto is a diet where you don’t eat carbs and get all your calories from protein (meat) and fat (butter etc). It sounds like you’re new to fit dieting so would recommend basing your bulk diet on unprocessed meat, fruit/veg, eggs, carbs (white rice is good for bulking), good fats (olive oil, avocado, nuts)
>It sounds like you’re new to fit dieting
I'm not. What makes you think that?
Oh I thought that because your diet and justification for it is quite unusual. Also because you don’t know what keto is even though it’s pretty well known in fitness circles. No worries though the advice I gave is still relevant.
It still doesn't explain why my TDEE is so high. IST told me "muh fast metabolism" was a meme
Yeah it is a meme. Do you walk a lot throughout the day? Do you do a physical job? Bare in mind that most people work sedentary office jobs these days so even being a waiter that walks around a restaurant all day will you a higher TDEE than the average person.
>Stealth keto thread
What's keto?
a diet that dyels do.
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bulking is a psyop, the more you eat the more you age for some extra water in your muscles. lift less and eat 30 calorie suprlus and you will be fine
The issue is that all the protein you're eating is increasing your metabolic rate, especially when it's the first thing you eat in the morning. With a diet like that and no exercise, you'll need significantly more calories for maintenance than the average person.
Which is it?
In general ‘fast metabolism’ is a meme. However, there is some evidence that suggests that excess calories from protein don’t contribute to weight gain as much as calories from carbs and fat so, with your unusual diet (calories coming mainly from protein), it is possible that the calorie excess isn’t having as much of an effect as it would if your diet had a more typical macro split. This is less likely though. It is much more likely that you are overestimating your calories. Another thing to consider is injury/illness. Being ill/injured increases your TDEE.
You been shitting a lot?
Gomad
A grown adult male who lifts needs anywhere from 4-6k calories a day to grow anyone who says otherwise doesn’t lift heavy
during my time on bulgarian Olympic weightlifting team some of the athletes ate 8k calories and didn't gain any weight
in fact, that's a pretty standard maintenance calorie range
I’m saying this because people on this board literally think you just need to eat 2500 to grow
2500 is cutting if you're lifting lol
they probably say 2500 or 2000 and don't count their liters of alcohol
not my problem
Wouldn't it depend on your current height and weight are would you say that regardless?
>Hey guys 5'4 130 pounds here need about 2500 calories to bulk right?
Average fitizen
Well I'm 5'9 125, when i use the TDEE calculators that's on the sticky it says i should start with 3000 cal
don't bulk my son. With those stats you should transition about become daughter.
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How fat are you, exactly?
somehow pathetic twinks complaining about not being able to gain weight are MORE pathetic than fatties, you wouldnt think it would be possible to out pathetic fatties but you fuckers do it somehow
you are not eating 3500cals
i thought i was eating 3000cals. maybe i was at one point. but i let it slip and realised i was only eating 2500cals.
solution for me was to drink my calories. super easy. shake at start of day, shake at end of day. big dinner in between.
your shits and farts must fucking hum.
i drink a coffee as a leave for work. 15-30mins after clocking in the coffee has gone though me, and i blast the company's toilets. feels good.
I already drink a gallon of raw milk everyday, anon.
Somewhat relevant question: I read that a human needs at least 20 calories per pound of bodyweight to gain muscle. At my bodyweight that would mean I need to consume 3600 calories a day. Isn't that way too much? When I was bulking on 3200 calories I gained a ton of fat, which I took to mean that I was eating at enough of a surplus.
these equations are always made with lean body mass
same with how much protein your body needs on a cut and bulk
these formulas imply you're 0% bodyfat
Scenario 1 (more likely): You aren't eating as much as you think. Just add more yogurt and peanut butter to protein shakes.
Scenario 2 (less likely): CICO works but a potential problem is that your diet before and after you started your fitness journey has already had a huge impact on what exactly your required intake or burn rate should be. Those Biggest Loser people have to be at insane deficits for a long time because their diets were so horrendous that their hormones were completely fucked. Your problem would thankfully not that bad by comparison in this scenario. It probably means you ate decently enough to begin with.
not gonna read the thread
eat more often
how big of a breakfast do you eat? how big of a lunch do you eat? how big of a dinner do you eat? are there snacks throughout the day? how many, and what are they?
See
You’re not eating enough it’s pretty fucking simple
ehm..op i dont want to scare you but it could be seirously cancer.
go to doc asap.
https://www.healthline.com/health/cancer-weight-loss-how-fast
>According to the American Cancer Society, an unexplained weight loss of 10 pounds or more could be the first sign of cancer. The types of cancer often identified with this type of weight loss include cancers of the:
you could have intestinal parasites eating all your calories, are you a 3rf worlder
Don’t fall for the bulking meme
I want to know what happened to this guy. How do you eat in surplus, lift and gain almost no muscle? I'm assuming not lifting heavy enough. He's pretty lean to begin with so im gonna assume he didn't lift heavy at first maybe calisthenics and didn't incorporate heavier weight later.
Hmm maybe eat more you fucking retard ever thought of that?