>one study is fact
Right. Reproduce it at least twice with the same conclusion and maybe then it'll come close to "fact."
Whales will still be whales and kick the bucket sooner no matter the amount of cope.
Not a fact.
It's an opinion and a bad one at that.
You cannot get fat if you burn more calories than you take in.
You won't get more change from handing over less money
lying with statistics is easy, wont change the fact that if you want to lose weight you gotta eat less, eat healthier foods and burn more calories, its a god damn scientific law of the transfer of energy for christs sake.
Joke, I know. But good choice of words. >Food=batteries. >Body=machine.
Some batteries and machines are more efficient than others, but the ground rules don't change. Put more energy into it than it needs, and it gets fat, dies, or both.
The study will show that this is how to lose weight, just that this works for varying degrees to different people. Fat apologists have this seized on it when it still proves them wrong
All journalists sold their souls to click baits and shit controversial media in order to profit.
Making news isnt the product, what triggers you is the product.
America is a soulless shithole filled with soulles grifters, left and right.
I call it "rage bait and fear porn," however this has made me realize there's a third type of ~~*"journalism"*~~, what should I call it? This sort of article that tells you what you want to hear?
Do you breath in air? do you breath out air that has less oxygen and more carbon dioxide than the air you breathed in. Do you eat? Do you have to go to the toilet? If so, you are exchanging material with your surroundings. Then it is not a closed system.
>not applicable to an open system
Yes it is you absolute fricking moron lol. Its just extra variables you need to account for but thermodynamics still applies to every single variable in any system.
>A small study analyzing doctor conversations with patients reveals that much of the standard weight-loss advice is too vague to be useful and, occasionally, is totally inaccurate.
People are stupid on top of being fat.
That's a good study and shows what fit has said for years, doctors don't learn enough about nutrition to know what they are talking about and often give completely wrong advice or very vuage advance about what to eat
>Qualitative content analysis was applied to 159 audio recordings of consultations from the Brief Interventions for Weight Loss (BWeL) trial, where GPs gave brief weight-loss advice to patients with a body mass index ≥30 kg/m2 (or ≥25 kg/m2 if Asian) in 137 UK surgeries. Similar content was grouped into descriptive clusters. >where GPs gave brief weight-loss advice to patients
wow so you're telling me context and individual situations matter
what a moronic fricking study
i will bet any fatass all of my investments about 40k if I lock them in a room for a month and only give them water and electrolytes that they will be lighter than when they entered that room.
left side of the bell: go for a jog fatty
center: "eat less, move more" doesn't actually work for weight loss, according to a new study
right side: modern 'academia' (a synonym for trivial) has a replicability crisis.
robert lustig has been able to get children to lose weight not by altering the amount of calories they are consuming, but by altering the types of food they are consuming. A metabolically healthy body will burn more calories than a metabolically unhealthy body.
CICO is part of the puzzle, but it's much more nuanced than that. There's a reason why blasting hormones will drastically change your muscle and fat mass, even though those hormones are 0 calories.
I don't know how you people even bother with convincing fat people that exercising helps them when they do shit like this to make excuses.
Just let them die of a heart attack.
eat more, move less, get your boosters, drink your hfcs, eat the bugs, live in the pod, cut your dick off, cut your breasts off, don't own anything just rent. everything else is fascist and antisemitic.
Our whole state of journalism is "tell people what they want to hear" these days. They first find the conclusion they want, then jump through hoops to get to it. Trash.
>No one actually looked up the article to read
It's about how doctors give shitty, useless advice, not about how weight loss strategies shouldn't ever include caloric restriction or increased exercise.
so the title is straight up lying, doesn't really make me want to read it. Journos are a disgrace, the other day I was reading an article about how "x project will cost almost double than initially predicted" and it turned out that the change was from 55 millions to 80 millions. The considerations about the increase in expenses were accurate, but they still had to sensationalise the news to make a cooler title, it pissed me off
>In the majority of cases, doctors give patients weight-loss advice that's more abstract than actionable, too vague to be beneficial, and not always supported by science. >Common suggestions included the following abstract tips, which aren't actually backed by current science (and in some cases, are patently false): >Eat less, move more >Just take the stairs >Be careful what you eat >Reduce your carbs >Use an app to track calories so you can monitor calories in and calories out >Get as much exercise as your joints will allow >Make your own gluten-free flour since it won't have sugar (which is completely false; gluten is a protein, after all)
So "be careful what you eat" and "move more" are too difficult to be actionable.
Also lol'd at this one:
>Plus, doctors are often too short on time to really get to know their patients' habits and other external factors that might impact overall well-being. (Say, access to a safe place to exercise or the need to work three jobs to pay the bills.)
No... it should be:
"Eat a LOT less and move a LOT more".
You fat fricks think eating one less cookie and walking a half mile is going to magically make you lose weight.
>literally lost 30 pounds since June by just eating less and exercising more
I hate how America has become a nation of fatties who literally sit around and dream up ways they can't stop being fatties.
Even if it wasn't their fault I'd still hate fat people. What're you gonna do?
A saiyan wife would either get you jacked-af or kill you herself... Sounds like a good deal , who's in?
I'm in, if Gohan and Trunks are any indication it's an extremely eugenic match.
Encourage you to keep doing it
> may
>Female dietician
I assume she's writing for attention because humans have been doing this for a 300,000 fricking years and it works
Doesn't work
It is all down to the genetic lottery
You're fricking fat and lazy
CICOtrannies can't just stop getting btfoed !!
Wow, he's on other threads too?
>Karla Walsh
Taking advice from a femoid? Hahahajaja
Would. Also anybody got feetpics?
gross looking pits
>~~*Walsh*~~
and a israelite too.
ur so mad that facts exist
>one study is fact
Right. Reproduce it at least twice with the same conclusion and maybe then it'll come close to "fact."
Whales will still be whales and kick the bucket sooner no matter the amount of cope.
Not a fact.
It's an opinion and a bad one at that.
You cannot get fat if you burn more calories than you take in.
You won't get more change from handing over less money
>ur so mad that facts exist
>ur so mad that facts exist
>literally believes energy can be created out of thin air because a paper said so
Failing at physics for middle schoolers
lying with statistics is easy, wont change the fact that if you want to lose weight you gotta eat less, eat healthier foods and burn more calories, its a god damn scientific law of the transfer of energy for christs sake.
No I'm mad that FATS exist
read the "study" before you gargle its balls, Nick
works on my machine
fatties btfo
Joke, I know. But good choice of words.
>Food=batteries.
>Body=machine.
Some batteries and machines are more efficient than others, but the ground rules don't change. Put more energy into it than it needs, and it gets fat, dies, or both.
The study will show that this is how to lose weight, just that this works for varying degrees to different people. Fat apologists have this seized on it when it still proves them wrong
Why don't you post an archive link to the article?
The article complains that getting a physical is full of uncomfortable moments for obese people and BMI is inaccurate.
The study is complaining that the advice (i.e. 1 sentence such as "eat less move more") is too vague to be useful to fatties.
Unsurprisingly, obese people want to have their cake and eat it too.
The study didn't involve anyone eating or moving.
Try reading. The article admits that CICO works, just that morons like you and other fatties are too stupid to understand.
All journalists sold their souls to click baits and shit controversial media in order to profit.
Making news isnt the product, what triggers you is the product.
America is a soulless shithole filled with soulles grifters, left and right.
I call it "rage bait and fear porn," however this has made me realize there's a third type of ~~*"journalism"*~~, what should I call it? This sort of article that tells you what you want to hear?
infantile coddling
So thermodynamics are a lie?
Science is a white supremacist invention, so yes, thermodynamics is a lie.
I hate science but also love white supremacists..
Who do I pick?
it's whom you illiterate moron
not applicable to an open system where input and output are dependent variables
so where is the extra energy entering your body if you aren't eating a ton of food fatass?
Cumshots.
The human body isn't an open system you absolute fricking moron. You don't know what you're talking about
Do you breath in air? do you breath out air that has less oxygen and more carbon dioxide than the air you breathed in. Do you eat? Do you have to go to the toilet? If so, you are exchanging material with your surroundings. Then it is not a closed system.
Yes it does.
>dU = dQ - dW
dQ is heat entering the system.
>not applicable to an open system
Yes it is you absolute fricking moron lol. Its just extra variables you need to account for but thermodynamics still applies to every single variable in any system.
>A small study analyzing doctor conversations with patients reveals that much of the standard weight-loss advice is too vague to be useful and, occasionally, is totally inaccurate.
People are stupid on top of being fat.
>According to a N(J)ew Study
That's a good study and shows what fit has said for years, doctors don't learn enough about nutrition to know what they are talking about and often give completely wrong advice or very vuage advance about what to eat
>Qualitative content analysis was applied to 159 audio recordings of consultations from the Brief Interventions for Weight Loss (BWeL) trial, where GPs gave brief weight-loss advice to patients with a body mass index ≥30 kg/m2 (or ≥25 kg/m2 if Asian) in 137 UK surgeries. Similar content was grouped into descriptive clusters.
>where GPs gave brief weight-loss advice to patients
wow so you're telling me context and individual situations matter
what a moronic fricking study
>body mass index ≥30 kg/m2 (or ≥25 kg/m2 if Asian)
Lmao what. Bongs actually have higher standards for changs than whites?
i will bet any fatass all of my investments about 40k if I lock them in a room for a month and only give them water and electrolytes that they will be lighter than when they entered that room.
What odds are you giving? Even money no deal
Heh... nice try chud but my body would go into a starvation mode and transform that water into a fat in an instant.
left side of the bell: go for a jog fatty
center: "eat less, move more" doesn't actually work for weight loss, according to a new study
right side: modern 'academia' (a synonym for trivial) has a replicability crisis.
>one study says this
>one study says the opposite
>blah blah blah blah
Just fricking ignore all the science and find out what works for you yourself.
>karla walsh
>woman
robert lustig has been able to get children to lose weight not by altering the amount of calories they are consuming, but by altering the types of food they are consuming. A metabolically healthy body will burn more calories than a metabolically unhealthy body.
CICO is part of the puzzle, but it's much more nuanced than that. There's a reason why blasting hormones will drastically change your muscle and fat mass, even though those hormones are 0 calories.
CICO gays needs to get bullied like ketolards
almost same level of morons
ok stay fat then loser
>have been losing weight every summer by following CICO
>sometimes I have lost as much 40-50lbs within 3 months
Welp. Turns out I have been doing it wrong. I should be sipping on detox tea planning my routine around the moon calendar instead.
Shit, I can feel the 30kg I lost this year suddenly growing back on my body. We had a good run gents, but it's over.
Goddamn why does this turn me on
its a woman, doesnt really matter what they do
I don't know how you people even bother with convincing fat people that exercising helps them when they do shit like this to make excuses.
Just let them die of a heart attack.
Don't read the reddit thread about this study lol
eat more, move less, get your boosters, drink your hfcs, eat the bugs, live in the pod, cut your dick off, cut your breasts off, don't own anything just rent. everything else is fascist and antisemitic.
Our whole state of journalism is "tell people what they want to hear" these days. They first find the conclusion they want, then jump through hoops to get to it. Trash.
New study says your mother is a homosexual. It's called a study therefore any conclusion made in reference to it is true.
>the reviewer
She's cute.
She looks like an overweight thumb
Fatties lie when asked what they eat and if they exercise in a study.
Fatty here. Of course it works, I've lost 50lbs just counting calories and walking more.
This is correct.
TRUST
THE
SCIENCE!
That's wild, I wonder why I lost 75 pounds. Cancer or something, I guess.
>No one actually looked up the article to read
It's about how doctors give shitty, useless advice, not about how weight loss strategies shouldn't ever include caloric restriction or increased exercise.
so the title is straight up lying, doesn't really make me want to read it. Journos are a disgrace, the other day I was reading an article about how "x project will cost almost double than initially predicted" and it turned out that the change was from 55 millions to 80 millions. The considerations about the increase in expenses were accurate, but they still had to sensationalise the news to make a cooler title, it pissed me off
>We do not abide by the law of psysichs
Time to tre
From the article:
>In the majority of cases, doctors give patients weight-loss advice that's more abstract than actionable, too vague to be beneficial, and not always supported by science.
>Common suggestions included the following abstract tips, which aren't actually backed by current science (and in some cases, are patently false):
>Eat less, move more
>Just take the stairs
>Be careful what you eat
>Reduce your carbs
>Use an app to track calories so you can monitor calories in and calories out
>Get as much exercise as your joints will allow
>Make your own gluten-free flour since it won't have sugar (which is completely false; gluten is a protein, after all)
So "be careful what you eat" and "move more" are too difficult to be actionable.
Also lol'd at this one:
>Plus, doctors are often too short on time to really get to know their patients' habits and other external factors that might impact overall well-being. (Say, access to a safe place to exercise or the need to work three jobs to pay the bills.)
>Turns out you guys were wrong
No... it should be:
"Eat a LOT less and move a LOT more".
You fat fricks think eating one less cookie and walking a half mile is going to magically make you lose weight.
>literally lost 30 pounds since June by just eating less and exercising more
I hate how America has become a nation of fatties who literally sit around and dream up ways they can't stop being fatties.
>participants are told to eat less and move more
>participants don't eat less or move more
>"it doesn't work guise"