I read "seed oils" in your post and read it as "sneed oils" and I read "sneed oils" in your post and read it as "seed oils" and opened the reply box to reply "sneed oils"
mental illness
>FREUDIAN >implying implications
No, no. There is nothing freudian about the appeal of that statue. The snake isn't an allegory to the penis and the wrestling isn't an allegory to controlling my libido.
The snake represents literal snakes and naked wrestling represents what I want to do with a giant female snake.
Literally this.
One year my Dad got really depressed and starting only buying Burger King for dinner instead of cooking most nights. I went from having steak and 3 vege to having whoppers and chips for dinner as an 8 year old. I got really fat and was fat until I was 17 when I started running everyday.
What sucks is that being fat and lazy as a kid has programmed me to just lounge around and eat bad food when times get hard, I constantly go between being really fit to being fat with manboobs. I know it's "my fault" and I'm trying to deflect blame, but it's a lot harder for me to control my eating than it would've been if my dad wasn't so lazy.
In my case me being overweight as a kid was 95% my parents' fault. They fed me pizza every second day and mostly processed garbage full of sugar on the others. I lost 50 lbs of excess weight in just 3 months after I started buying my own food.
My mom and dad were lardasses. Whatever they said was underlined by the fact that they didnt look good to begin with.
Later on they tried to stop me from losing weight my way (cardio, lifting and low carb diet, not a ketard)
Hey not all of us were lucky enough to have together and attentive healthy parents teaching us that stuff. Some of us got given poptarts for breakfast and vidya to keep us sedated.
> israelite obsessed schizos think this guy is israeli when he has a clearly british last name
more proof that online nazis are hispanics whose parents flung them over the US border and are now insecure about being swarthoid welfare leeching scum
>There’s a cringe right wing element in the carnivore community
I agree with you. >He's right.
He says carnivore is only a political reaction, and that it is wholly contained to right-wing antiestablishmentism. This position is very different from yours. It's also bad, dumb, and wrong.
most carnivores I've seen on the internet (I don't even know any IRL) are former vegans. In some cases they're also former leftists who then shift into alt-lite politics.
It's the same kind of mentally ill people who go for either of these extremes.
The best part about the trans, soiy and gay frog community is they willingly and loudly beat normies over the head with their mental illness. They have effectively memed themselves for us.
>Imagine listening to this
I'm a big city democrat, wife vegetarian...NEVER listen to anyone with a political agenda about nutrition. NEVER. Ideology kills your gainz fricking dead.
>Imagine listening to this
I'm a big city democrat, wife vegetarian...NEVER listen to anyone with a political agenda about nutrition. NEVER. Ideology kills your gainz fricking dead.
Using the word >merely
Is conclusive proof of an IQ of 90 to 110
The best part about the trans, soiy and gay frog community is they willingly and loudly beat normies over the head with their mental illness. They have effectively memed themselves for us.
He is right. The carnivore diet is just another online quasi-conservative quasi-right-wing grift to make conservatards and MIGAtards secure about their masculinity.
> Look at me eating a big rib eye steak and drinking whiskey. I am such a manly man
You don't drink whisky on a carnivore diet you stupid c**t
>The new heart disease bogeyman now that LDL has been debunked
The absolute idiot that made that graphic doesn't even understand the definition of causal. Seriously go frick yourself.
Lmao go enjoy your seed oils with high levels of deuterium that damage your mitochondria. Keep counting 'calories' and engaging the randle cycle causing chronic systemic inflammation. Keep spiking your blood sugar 3 to 6 times a day.
you're right about the carnivore diet crowd basically being the same kind of neutered homosexual who thought epic meal time and that guy from parks and rec were cool. I don't understand why people can't just eat like normal people, and by that I mean Italians. just have some fricking chicken parm with ziti and a salad, is that so fricking hard?
i tried carnivore for a month and idk if i was doing it wrong but i was physically weaker during
probably just the lack of carbs though, since otherwise i felt really good
Glugoneogenesis is incredibly inefficient at glycogen storage rebuilding you would have to consume an insane amount of protein, and if you worked it out for calories you'd have to cut way down on fat and you'd get rabbit starvation/protein poisoniny
Gluconeogenesis only becomes inefficient through lack of use due to overconsumption of carbs or by over-training.
Gluconeogenesis has supported us as a species for 4 million years. Its not inefficient if you eat a biologically appropriate, high-protein diet every day.
Its very much use it or lose it.
I eat 200g+ of protein per day at 71kg and always perform well in the gym which suggests I have no issues with glycogen replenishment, as it should be.
OK none of that is true so, your personal feeling of wellbeing doesn't matter NAD isn't indicative of anything. For every gram of protein ingested more than 25% is lost as heat in conversion to glucose. Assuming you do actually get 200 grams of protein a day and use >100g in exercise and normal bodily needs, that leaves less than 100 grams of slow-to-produce glucose. Not even remotely enough to top off glycogen stores.
GNG is ONLY for maintaining stable blood glucose. It's NOT used for glycogen, remember if you aren't eating carbs your muscle cells will be physiologically insulin resistant and won't take in glucose.
GNG is also mostly done using glycerol, not protein sources.
Nope. It actually spawned from keto. Keto apologetics kept whining that every study btfoing their dumb diet had too many carbs and always adviced the people struggling with it to eat less carbs because in their cult think carbs are always to blame. So it reached its logical end with zero carb diet and from there came carnivore diet which quickly mutated to nu-primal diet. The whole shit show is repeating 1990's when Atkins had finally scammed critical mass of people making it unpopular because too many had tried it and people knew it doesn't work too well, so another scammer added more carbs especially fruit but claimed same principle, that was the Whole30. Round and round it goes.
>squats and deadlifts are safe
this is the only point he got right, and I still doubt he has proper form, he just doesn't do enough weight/reps/sets to actually injure himself.
>Its heme iron which the body cannot regulate
the bone marrow produces heme from other sources of iron and the spleen breaks down so much heme every day into brown bilirubin that it makes your shit brown with the iron oxides
fricking DUMBASS vegan Black person
He meant body can't regulate it when you eat it. Ironically for reasond you posted. Bone marrow generates it at steady rate, excess you get from diet does cell damage because it can't be cleared out at faster rate.
In actual reality, only dyels get this autistic about diet explicitly. Serious lifters only really share info if someone else is also sharing their diet
>Untrue >Untrue >Sure? who cares about gut health if you eat right anyway? >Again, who cares if you eat a balanced diet and exercise. >Don't know what that is. >Yes, but it's easy to injury yourself by going too heavy on DL's without proper form. >Yes but not in efficient amounts. >Yes, but it can be difficult to get all of the required nutrients on a vegan diet.
>Except Vitamin C
Liver has vitamin C, when you don't eat carbs you don't need as much vitamin C >carbs, sugar, fructose, fiber
Don't need these things >thiamin, folate, potassium
meat/eggs/liver have these >water
serious? >flavor
sauce
Even normal fresh meat has enough vitamin C to prevent scurvy and maintain good health. The Bellevue experiments showed this in the 1920s and the entire field of nutrition ignored it because dietetics was being dictated by Seventh Day Adventists
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>maintain good health
Show me one population of carnists in "good health". I'll wait.
2 years ago
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>T.
2 years ago
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This Post eerily ignored and unreplied. Whats the matter meat cucks?
Absolutely wrong. Vegan MDs acknowledge that vegans are chronically defficient in calcium, multiple vit Bs, C (which is insane), D3, K, Omega-3, Iron, Zinc, Creatine. Calcium is impossible to supplement sufficiently as calcium supplements have extremely low bioavailability. You also have to work extremely hard to get sufficient protein and have to consciously plan to get a complete breadth of amino acids.
Vegan diets do degenerate people unless they take supplements, due to lack of Vitamin B12 and creatine. That's simply a scientific fact. Vitamin B12 supplements are made from animal products, therefore it's impossible to stay healthy on a diet that doesn't contain any animal products.
Doesn't matter. Unless you take artificial supplements, a vegan diet is not maintainable without adverse health effect. This disproves the whole "humans are meant to be vegan!"-bullshit vegans always sperg about.
>oh no, I might have to eat seaweed or mushrooms once a month or eat regular breakfast cereal >so unnatural! >but it's totally better to pay a farmer (or a factory farm) to spend several years raising a farm animal, collecting its body parts, cutting it open, transporting it thousands of miles in a truck to a grocery store, packaging it in plastic for a minimum wagie to sell to me, bringing it home in my mini SUV, cooking it over a fire, adding seasonings to make it taste edible, then cutting it with a knife and fork, while also raising my cholesterol so I wil have a heart attack later on >yep, that is way easier and more efficient
>Unless you take artificial supplements, a vegan diet is not maintainable without adverse health effect
You make it seem like that's so difficult to do. Almost every vegan food is fortified with B12 these days. If you can drink cows milk for b12, I can drink fortified oat milk for B12.
Hitler wasn’t an ideological vegetarian. He had gastrointestinal issues that his doctors were trying to solve by making him eat specific things. He just followed his doctors orders. Hitler had something akin to IBD or ulcerative colitis and it caused him quite a bit of discomfort, and the treatment plan was management through diet. Hitler wasn’t a vegetarian for moral reasons, and it wasn’t even his idea.
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Hitler sought to end meat production and Nazi Germany still has the record on strictest animal welfare laws.
If that is how this corpulent, unctuous slug-creature keeps it's slime healthy, that's his business. However, I am a human man and my nutritional values deviate from industrial waste byproduct and leaves from cracked, degraded land.
>Made by vigorously shaking milk cream
It would be so easy to correct it to "sour cream" but people seem to genuinely not know that butter requires fermentation.
This guy is completely ignoring his epigenetic signaling. No training + poor diet = waterslide to hell. If you don't give yourself things to overcome and only pursue comfort, you are unfit and will rot.
>Seed oils healthy
No. >Red meat is unhealthy
No. >Grains benefit gut health
Depends on the gut. >Onions doesn't feminize men
Yes. >ApoB causes heart disease
Don't know, don't care. >Squats and deadlifts are safe
Deadlifts are a pointless, high risk exercise. >Plant nutrients are bioavailable
So are animal nutrients. >Vegan diets don't degenerate you
You will be malnourished without supplements.
> seed oils healthy
Stop spouting chud tier memes. He has debated people. See the Mark Bell channel for his debate on seed oils. Also he frequently does debates.
He is right on the "onions doesnt feminize men". Its just that only homosexuals drink it in the first place
Also on the plant nutrients bit. They are just worse than animal nutrients every time.
Finally, Vegan diets dont degenerate you, until they do (taking them for over a season)
How is any of that against IST? See, what happens here is we sticky readers just ignore you fricking illiterate cultists. Maybe, to someone who has a specific kind of brain damage that makes them refresh threads incessantly in an attempt to get the last word and save face anonymously, it might seem like that tweet is against IST culture, just like if you're a Mormon the idea of a Mediterranean Christ seems anti-Christian, but the most moronic and inane edgecases don't typically define a culture.
False
True
True
False but it's to an incredibly small degree and getting one hour less of sleep is more feminizing
Strawman
Every conventional lift is safe if done right and not if not
Wide category, generally less so than animal but largely irrelevant
Incredibly false
hopefully this veganism stuff dies when all the sneed oil slop fake meat companies running on vc money go under in the next big market correction and we stop getting spam from literally who vegan youtubers promoting their garbage content.
All of these are conditionally true. For example, seed oils can be fine, but can also very demonstrably contribute to obesity depending on the person, the diet, the cultural context, and on and on such that you need an unrealistic number of bits of information to describe the complete state of the system.
It’s the big problem of nutrition research — the curse of dimensionality and the failure of mean field methods in complex problem spaces.
What was that twitch in your chest, plackies? I hope you have your affairs in order. Maybe get a DNR so you arent left a locked in vegetable. Awake, but paralyzed for the rest of your life after a masdive stroke from yummy wummies
I literally can't read "seed oils" without my brain turning it into "sneed oils"
I read "sneed oils" in your post and read it as "seed oils" and opened the reply box to reply "sneed oils"
mental illness
I read "seed oils" in your post and read it as "sneed oils" and I read "sneed oils" in your post and read it as "seed oils" and opened the reply box to reply "sneed oils"
mental illness
hope you're getting your benefits as a veteran of the meme wars
Same. Frickin brain word-filter.
It is sneed oil
Ptsd
>looks at profile pic
Yeah I only get my information from Greek statues with glowing red eyes
I get information from everywhere and make up my own mind about it like a normal non-brainwashed person. Sick agitprop tho bro
based
>FREUDIAN
>implying implications
No, no. There is nothing freudian about the appeal of that statue. The snake isn't an allegory to the penis and the wrestling isn't an allegory to controlling my libido.
The snake represents literal snakes and naked wrestling represents what I want to do with a giant female snake.
>naked wrestling represents what I want to do with a giant female snake.
Bazed
>The snake represents literal snakes and naked wrestling represents what I want to do with a giant female snake.
The serpent is Satan
So you gonna hornypost snek ladies like xcom or Mia, or what?
HAHAHA the age of the chud is truly over
The snake represents israelites trying to strangle you. Not penis.
The only people that unironically like images like this are closet gay fascists
This is a sexual reality.
You can literally interpret everything in existence as sexual.
>Yeah I only get my information from Greek statues with glowing red eyes
Based
In most cases, the parents are the ones feeding their kids junk food
Literally this.
One year my Dad got really depressed and starting only buying Burger King for dinner instead of cooking most nights. I went from having steak and 3 vege to having whoppers and chips for dinner as an 8 year old. I got really fat and was fat until I was 17 when I started running everyday.
What sucks is that being fat and lazy as a kid has programmed me to just lounge around and eat bad food when times get hard, I constantly go between being really fit to being fat with manboobs. I know it's "my fault" and I'm trying to deflect blame, but it's a lot harder for me to control my eating than it would've been if my dad wasn't so lazy.
In my case me being overweight as a kid was 95% my parents' fault. They fed me pizza every second day and mostly processed garbage full of sugar on the others. I lost 50 lbs of excess weight in just 3 months after I started buying my own food.
I get my news from marble statues like a real man.
My mom and dad were lardasses. Whatever they said was underlined by the fact that they didnt look good to begin with.
Later on they tried to stop me from losing weight my way (cardio, lifting and low carb diet, not a ketard)
ALWAYS DO THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT FATS SAY
Why would you not judge someone’s fitness advice based on how they look?
Why would you not judge someone’s advice on literally anything based on how they look?
Because they have no inherent credibility. If a fat frick knew what he was doing he wouldn't be a fat frick.
Nah, facts are facts regardless of who says them
Arnold says to ignore milk and drink beer.
I am a fat lazy frick, but I also glug my 2 gallon of powdered mare milk a day.
A reliable source of information
Hey not all of us were lucky enough to have together and attentive healthy parents teaching us that stuff. Some of us got given poptarts for breakfast and vidya to keep us sedated.
Pretty much yeah it's working well so far
my parents concept of a healthy life was a lot of veggies and a bit of jogging,which is pretty good in itself but still
>Yeah I only get my information from Greek statues with glowing red eyes
however i do agree with the squats and deadlifts
grains are ok depending on the type
onions is ok in low doses
plant nutrients are great as a side
he has a gf
you jerk off to anime
There's one man in this picture and it isn't the bearded boy.
I jerk off to doujins
>all things are possible
why wouldn't they be possible after one loses their v-card?
That's a man.
If I looked like that, I would be trying to make serious lifestyle changes.
>full head of hair
frick
that is a man
She has a very pretty beard.
post gf
That is a sick looking man
I don’t have a gf because I don’t wanna use her as some bullshit trophy to flaunt my social status with, homosexual.
no he doesnt. look at him. she is single.
He has a kid you homosexual
Why are Americans so insecure about their masculinity that they have made masculinity this performative act of consuming certain MANLY products?
>He has a kid
my condolences.
>he has a kid
so what? shes still single. maybe they even share a boyfriend lol. and the kid will be a homosexual, if its his. apples trees etc
Weeb homosexual BTFO
>he has a gf
debatable.
>gf
>g
Physiongomy check
Yeah I'm thinking he's wrong about everything
I would kill myself if I woke up looking like either of those men
He jerks off while watching her frick black guys. Who's really more pathetic?
He definitely jerks it to anime. Probably poké porn even
That avatar doesn't fill me with confidence about this man's opinions
>cartoon onions avatar
Squats and deadlifts are safe IF you're strong.
Coleman ego lifted. He is weak.
Imagine listening to this
He’s right. There’s a cringe right wing element in the carnivore community
>Early life
Don’t even need to look. I stopped listening to israelites a looooong time ago.
Your whole existence is cringe you loser troony.
> israelite obsessed schizos think this guy is israeli when he has a clearly british last name
more proof that online nazis are hispanics whose parents flung them over the US border and are now insecure about being swarthoid welfare leeching scum
What's your evidence? What if you're not part of the "community?"
>There’s a cringe right wing element in the carnivore community
I agree with you.
>He's right.
He says carnivore is only a political reaction, and that it is wholly contained to right-wing antiestablishmentism. This position is very different from yours. It's also bad, dumb, and wrong.
most carnivores I've seen on the internet (I don't even know any IRL) are former vegans. In some cases they're also former leftists who then shift into alt-lite politics.
It's the same kind of mentally ill people who go for either of these extremes.
The best part about the trans, soiy and gay frog community is they willingly and loudly beat normies over the head with their mental illness. They have effectively memed themselves for us.
Using the word
>merely
Is conclusive proof of an IQ of 90 to 110
This is the only thing I agree on him about. You're denying reality if you disagree with this.
>eating nornal food makes you right wing
Fricking basedmericans
>Imagine listening to this
I'm a big city democrat, wife vegetarian...NEVER listen to anyone with a political agenda about nutrition. NEVER. Ideology kills your gainz fricking dead.
>antiestablishment as a bad thing
IS THIS homie PRO ESTABLISHMENT?
He is right. The carnivore diet is just another online quasi-conservative quasi-right-wing grift to make conservatards and MIGAtards secure about their masculinity.
> Look at me eating a big rib eye steak and drinking whiskey. I am such a manly man
>Noooooo everything I don't like is conservative! Noooooo!!!!!
I will keep eating meat and lifting
if veganism is left wing, then I want nothing to do with it.
frick leftists.
>A diet is inherently left wing / right wing
>if
Also, tank mr on the spectrum
You don't drink whisky on a carnivore diet you stupid c**t
The absolute idiot that made that graphic doesn't even understand the definition of causal. Seriously go frick yourself.
Lmao go enjoy your seed oils with high levels of deuterium that damage your mitochondria. Keep counting 'calories' and engaging the randle cycle causing chronic systemic inflammation. Keep spiking your blood sugar 3 to 6 times a day.
This. It even has usual political strawman integrated where they label anyone saying it's bullshit as liberal vegans. Instantly.
>hurr durr right wing left wing durrrrrrrr
you're right about the carnivore diet crowd basically being the same kind of neutered homosexual who thought epic meal time and that guy from parks and rec were cool. I don't understand why people can't just eat like normal people, and by that I mean Italians. just have some fricking chicken parm with ziti and a salad, is that so fricking hard?
i tried carnivore for a month and idk if i was doing it wrong but i was physically weaker during
probably just the lack of carbs though, since otherwise i felt really good
Probably lack of oxygen to your brain because of blood sludging after every meal
Protein intake too low for gluconeogenesis for optimal glycogen replenishment.
Glugoneogenesis is incredibly inefficient at glycogen storage rebuilding you would have to consume an insane amount of protein, and if you worked it out for calories you'd have to cut way down on fat and you'd get rabbit starvation/protein poisoniny
Gluconeogenesis only becomes inefficient through lack of use due to overconsumption of carbs or by over-training.
Gluconeogenesis has supported us as a species for 4 million years. Its not inefficient if you eat a biologically appropriate, high-protein diet every day.
Its very much use it or lose it.
I eat 200g+ of protein per day at 71kg and always perform well in the gym which suggests I have no issues with glycogen replenishment, as it should be.
3 years carnivore and thriving.
OK none of that is true so, your personal feeling of wellbeing doesn't matter NAD isn't indicative of anything. For every gram of protein ingested more than 25% is lost as heat in conversion to glucose. Assuming you do actually get 200 grams of protein a day and use >100g in exercise and normal bodily needs, that leaves less than 100 grams of slow-to-produce glucose. Not even remotely enough to top off glycogen stores.
GNG is ONLY for maintaining stable blood glucose. It's NOT used for glycogen, remember if you aren't eating carbs your muscle cells will be physiologically insulin resistant and won't take in glucose.
GNG is also mostly done using glycerol, not protein sources.
>GNG is ONLY for maintaining stable blood glucose.
Nope.
>It's NOT used for glycogen
Of course it is.
>Remember if you aren't eating carbs your muscle cells will be physiologically insulin resistant and won't take in glucose.
That's one reason why gluconeogenesis via high protein intake is important. Gluconeogenesis causes an insulin response.
>GNG is also mostly done using glycerol, not protein sources.
lactate, glycerol, and glucogenic amino acids are the main substrates used for GNG.
i was hitting >1g per lb of bodyweight most days though
Correct.
Also correct.
Well at least they're finally admitting that left wing is the establishment.
While I do not agree with the rest of his post it really does feel like the carnivore fad appeared as a counter-reaction to veganism.
Nope. It actually spawned from keto. Keto apologetics kept whining that every study btfoing their dumb diet had too many carbs and always adviced the people struggling with it to eat less carbs because in their cult think carbs are always to blame. So it reached its logical end with zero carb diet and from there came carnivore diet which quickly mutated to nu-primal diet. The whole shit show is repeating 1990's when Atkins had finally scammed critical mass of people making it unpopular because too many had tried it and people knew it doesn't work too well, so another scammer added more carbs especially fruit but claimed same principle, that was the Whole30. Round and round it goes.
Deboonked by KARA BOGdAn
>squats and deadlifts are safe
this is the only point he got right, and I still doubt he has proper form, he just doesn't do enough weight/reps/sets to actually injure himself.
IST can't stop losing
>IST can't stop losing
It’s hilarious, fit thinks red meat is the healthiest food on the planet and deadlifts will shatter your lower back
red meat IS a health food. other than liver its the best source of iron in a world with billions of anemics.
Check your iron levels homie, mine were high which can cause serious liver damage. More iron is not always good
>BILLIONS of anemic
>muh theoretical iron overload
get real
Its heme iron which the body cannot regulate and can build up causing issues. This doesn't happen with iron from plants
>Its heme iron which the body cannot regulate
the bone marrow produces heme from other sources of iron and the spleen breaks down so much heme every day into brown bilirubin that it makes your shit brown with the iron oxides
fricking DUMBASS vegan Black person
He meant body can't regulate it when you eat it. Ironically for reasond you posted. Bone marrow generates it at steady rate, excess you get from diet does cell damage because it can't be cleared out at faster rate.
This isn't even a myth that vegans peddle, who told you this blatent lie?
Ok
I'd like to see that guy's physique.
In actual reality, only dyels get this autistic about diet explicitly. Serious lifters only really share info if someone else is also sharing their diet
>Untrue
>Untrue
>Sure? who cares about gut health if you eat right anyway?
>Again, who cares if you eat a balanced diet and exercise.
>Don't know what that is.
>Yes, but it's easy to injury yourself by going too heavy on DL's without proper form.
>Yes but not in efficient amounts.
>Yes, but it can be difficult to get all of the required nutrients on a vegan diet.
>using the word efficient incorrectly
Also, wrong
You'll get everything you need on a vegan diet except b12
Yeah but it involves eating more volume of healthy foods. Most vegans have a bad diet.
>You'll get everything you need on a vegan diet except b12
You get everything you need on a carnivore diet.
Ok
Except Vitamin C, carbs, sugar, fructose, fiber, thiamin, folate, potassium, water, and flavor.
Just add some herbs to the meat. All the above solved. And lol you don’t need fructose, if ya literally poison.
You'd have to be delusional to believe seasoning meat gets you any of that
But it does, put some oranges on your meat. You got Vit C and carbs and fructose you love so much. suck my dick
>Except Vitamin C
Liver has vitamin C, when you don't eat carbs you don't need as much vitamin C
>carbs, sugar, fructose, fiber
Don't need these things
>thiamin, folate, potassium
meat/eggs/liver have these
>water
serious?
>flavor
sauce
Even normal fresh meat has enough vitamin C to prevent scurvy and maintain good health. The Bellevue experiments showed this in the 1920s and the entire field of nutrition ignored it because dietetics was being dictated by Seventh Day Adventists
>maintain good health
Show me one population of carnists in "good health". I'll wait.
>T.
This Post eerily ignored and unreplied. Whats the matter meat cucks?
Post your body (you won't)
>flavor
Bruh, well cooked plain meat is fricking great. If you NEED to add stuff, you are a bad cook
Absolutely wrong. Vegan MDs acknowledge that vegans are chronically defficient in calcium, multiple vit Bs, C (which is insane), D3, K, Omega-3, Iron, Zinc, Creatine. Calcium is impossible to supplement sufficiently as calcium supplements have extremely low bioavailability. You also have to work extremely hard to get sufficient protein and have to consciously plan to get a complete breadth of amino acids.
No they don't.
Thanks Nick Hiebert. Nice profile picture.
>have same last name as this basedgoy
Frick me im changing it. Almost every girl I’ve dated straight up said they wouldn’t take my name if we married.
Just become a Dr bro
Vegan diets do no degenerate a man, this is true. But soil health can degenerate, corporations can perpetuate idiotic farming practices, etc.
Vegan diets do degenerate people unless they take supplements, due to lack of Vitamin B12 and creatine. That's simply a scientific fact. Vitamin B12 supplements are made from animal products, therefore it's impossible to stay healthy on a diet that doesn't contain any animal products.
B12 is made by bacteria.
In animals it's made in an animal's shitter.
>In animals it's made in an animal's shitter.
It’s given to animals in supplement form
Vegan lies. Only if animals are sick they might be but ruminants make their own B12
Doesn't matter. Unless you take artificial supplements, a vegan diet is not maintainable without adverse health effect. This disproves the whole "humans are meant to be vegan!"-bullshit vegans always sperg about.
If humans didn’t supplement the animals they ate, neither would a modern omnivorous diet.
>oh no, I might have to eat seaweed or mushrooms once a month or eat regular breakfast cereal
>so unnatural!
>but it's totally better to pay a farmer (or a factory farm) to spend several years raising a farm animal, collecting its body parts, cutting it open, transporting it thousands of miles in a truck to a grocery store, packaging it in plastic for a minimum wagie to sell to me, bringing it home in my mini SUV, cooking it over a fire, adding seasonings to make it taste edible, then cutting it with a knife and fork, while also raising my cholesterol so I wil have a heart attack later on
>yep, that is way easier and more efficient
d.com/diet/what-are-plant-food-sources-vitamin-b12
Lol dude, can't believe you typed all that bullshit. You're irrationally at odds with a natural human existence. Who groomed you?
I bet my B12 levels are higher than yours and my dick is bigger as well. Aren't you late for your hourly McDonalds burger?
>muh dick
>crushed up vitamins and industrial ethanol production byproduct makes me healthy
Vegans are truly brain dead
>Bro I'm so healthy. I chug msg flakes. I can't believe morons eat meat for protein and vitamins.
Just FYI the b12 in that is added. It doesn't actually have b12
Seaweed is an unreliable form of B12 even according to the American Vegan Society. You will eat the bugs and take the supplements
I'll still eat meat
>Unless you take artificial supplements, a vegan diet is not maintainable without adverse health effect
You make it seem like that's so difficult to do. Almost every vegan food is fortified with B12 these days. If you can drink cows milk for b12, I can drink fortified oat milk for B12.
I wonder why Hitler was such a hardcore vegetarian then.
He was usually right about everything, yet this I'll never get.
Hitler wasn’t an ideological vegetarian. He had gastrointestinal issues that his doctors were trying to solve by making him eat specific things. He just followed his doctors orders. Hitler had something akin to IBD or ulcerative colitis and it caused him quite a bit of discomfort, and the treatment plan was management through diet. Hitler wasn’t a vegetarian for moral reasons, and it wasn’t even his idea.
Hitler sought to end meat production and Nazi Germany still has the record on strictest animal welfare laws.
Nope, animals get their B12 as supplements or from dirt. It's only made by soil bacteria.
90% of people leave the vegan diet within 5 years often because their health has been destroyed. frick this israelite shill
I'm a recovering vegan. Frick that worthless diet. It's a great way to age in dog years.
Pro tip: do the opposite this homosexual tells you to do.
yeah im gonna ignore absolutely everything she said based on that profile pic alone
>seed oils
multiple highly controlled RCTs have shown they kill people and or cause cancer
Ok schizo
not an argument Black person. you will die from a hip fracture at 35
>grains benefit gut health
Come the frick on we've had an entire civilization proving that fact wrong, it's called medieval China
Seed oils are toxic. Even plant based mcdougal said so lmao
Imagine believing anything on twitter
I agree with exactly one of those statements, kek
If that is how this corpulent, unctuous slug-creature keeps it's slime healthy, that's his business. However, I am a human man and my nutritional values deviate from industrial waste byproduct and leaves from cracked, degraded land.
>squats and deadlifts are safe
OH NO NO NO NO NO
Post back and legs
No
No
They can
More true than false
Don't know.
Yes
They can be
Too vague
Ok
What is apob?
Sounds like I need it in my life
Some random ass protein molecule that this vegan guy is trying to shill against
The new heart disease bogeyman now that LDL has been debunked
>The new heart disease bogeyman now that LDL has been debunked
carnivore bros... it's over...
Not true. Not a single one of these RCTs is a diet trial they are all drug trials. This gay always posts this nonsense
>Not a single one of these RCTs is a diet trial they are all drug trials.
You have said this a dozen times ,yet have never once said why it matters
I guess you guys have to get a dictionary out and look up what "causal" means.
sneed oil
I’m a one trick vegan yasuo player AMA
Yikes, that's uh, quite the list there. Very snopesy, i.e. moronic. Not a good look.
I'm gonna do the exact opposite of what he says now
>Made by vigorously shaking milk cream
It would be so easy to correct it to "sour cream" but people seem to genuinely not know that butter requires fermentation.
????? you can make butter at home by whisking milk until it turns first to a fluffy consistency and then it becomes butter if you whisk it more
am I wrong???
Milk will take a lot of churning. I've made butter with whipping cream though, doesn't take much effort.
This guy is completely ignoring his epigenetic signaling. No training + poor diet = waterslide to hell. If you don't give yourself things to overcome and only pursue comfort, you are unfit and will rot.
>Seed oils healthy
No.
>Red meat is unhealthy
No.
>Grains benefit gut health
Depends on the gut.
>Onions doesn't feminize men
Yes.
>ApoB causes heart disease
Don't know, don't care.
>Squats and deadlifts are safe
Deadlifts are a pointless, high risk exercise.
>Plant nutrients are bioavailable
So are animal nutrients.
>Vegan diets don't degenerate you
You will be malnourished without supplements.
> seed oils healthy
Stop spouting chud tier memes. He has debated people. See the Mark Bell channel for his debate on seed oils. Also he frequently does debates.
internet people debates are worthless kys asap
WOW someone who swallows literally every big seed oil study without even questioning the credibility thinks that seed oils are good for you!
>söyboy cartoon profile pic
He is right on the "onions doesnt feminize men". Its just that only homosexuals drink it in the first place
Also on the plant nutrients bit. They are just worse than animal nutrients every time.
Finally, Vegan diets dont degenerate you, until they do (taking them for over a season)
>gut health
What is this new world order shit, I never heard of this until last year
I know this guy. He gives off shitlib vibes but he knows his stuff.
Hey OP, why don't you just frick off?
How is any of that against IST? See, what happens here is we sticky readers just ignore you fricking illiterate cultists. Maybe, to someone who has a specific kind of brain damage that makes them refresh threads incessantly in an attempt to get the last word and save face anonymously, it might seem like that tweet is against IST culture, just like if you're a Mormon the idea of a Mediterranean Christ seems anti-Christian, but the most moronic and inane edgecases don't typically define a culture.
TL;DR: READ THE FRICKING STICKY.
> How is any of that against IST?
Because ISTchuds believe seed oils are bad. Dumb frick.
> carnist
Do you mean carnivores or meat eaters who eat plants too?
Carnivores
>cartoon profile pic
we go by ISTBlack folk you frickin bigot motherfricker
Squats and DLs are safe though unless you’re completely moronic
And I don’t give a frick about the rest
False
True
True
False but it's to an incredibly small degree and getting one hour less of sleep is more feminizing
Strawman
Every conventional lift is safe if done right and not if not
Wide category, generally less so than animal but largely irrelevant
Incredibly false
so squats and deadlifts aren't safe?
Dangerous and irresponsible lies
Decided to listen to one of his debates and holy shit is this really what carnivore diet advocators sound like?
lol this sóyhomosexual got destroyed in a debate
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Some random Twitter troony said it so it must be true.
>grains benefit the gut health
obvious troll is obvious
Fiber is a meme and everyone is a secret celiac. Thanks carnivorous bro!
>boys are girls
>black is white
>good is bad
yeah we know
hopefully this veganism stuff dies when all the sneed oil slop fake meat companies running on vc money go under in the next big market correction and we stop getting spam from literally who vegan youtubers promoting their garbage content.
All of these are conditionally true. For example, seed oils can be fine, but can also very demonstrably contribute to obesity depending on the person, the diet, the cultural context, and on and on such that you need an unrealistic number of bits of information to describe the complete state of the system.
It’s the big problem of nutrition research — the curse of dimensionality and the failure of mean field methods in complex problem spaces.
where do i get seed oils without israelites?
All true, seethe more.
>seed oils are healthy
stopped reading there
I assume anything a israelite has to say is a lie.
>Nick ~~*Heibert*~~
What was that twitch in your chest, plackies? I hope you have your affairs in order. Maybe get a DNR so you arent left a locked in vegetable. Awake, but paralyzed for the rest of your life after a masdive stroke from yummy wummies
I will die eating meat. You will die no matter what you do.