How would you guys structure a work out plan to create the most well rounded soldier? There's a lot to balance out, like running, lifting, rucking, mobility, muscular conditioning, explosiveness, etc. and most of the programs I've seen are usually lacking in quite a few areas.
but would a ranger win against a Somali rebel lets say in Mogadishu?
Being an elite soldier is more about the mental than physical part. Having your brain still working under extreme conditions
>most well rounded soldier?
just don't be fat. there isn't a program that incorporates everything, because something has to give. the best for being well rounded is being good at everything, but not being exceptional
>jack of all trades, master of none
>but would a ranger win against a Somali rebel lets say in Mogadishu?
with or without "war crimes" and politics
I've thought about that as well when looking into this kinda stuff. It isn't always possible to go to environments where you can develop mental toughness and resilience, so I thought that perhaps physically grueling work outs could help out, one's that certainly would be on the side of overtraining and well beyond what would be optimal simply gaining any specific training attribute.
I saw a workout floating around a while ago that would have the trainee running a 5k every 4 hours for 24 hours, which of course is overkill for volume and a lot of stress on the joints, but it would also test the grit of the trainee and disrupt some sleep.
how old are you
20, why do you ask?
did you play any sports
Part of me making this thread is that I would be interested in going for something like R.A.S.P., but I'm also quite interested in how one would even begin to balance all these things.
And growing up I played a good amount of sports but ended up running cross country and track while in highschool.
>And growing up I played a good amount of sports but ended up running cross country and track while in highschool.
you're fine then. none of this military shit is actually hard. it's meant to weed out the CODboys and larpers. BUD/S for example, will have a starting class of 300. within the first minute, 50 people will quit just so they can say they went to BUD/S
>balance these things
EZ
running is a given because it's the easiest PT option
lifting you can do on your off time
rucking is nothing to waste your brain capacity on
mobility? stretch bro
conditioning? lift bro
explosiveness? weight lift bro
again, there isn't a catch all program because nobody who is looking to run long distance, is worried about rucking or being explosive
just sign the dotted line and raise your right hand for Isreal. let me know what base you get so I can bully you once you're there
I honestly just lift for general strength 4x a week and run base miles, or ride my mtb unless I'm specifically preparing for something. There's lots of literature on hybrid training or training for the "tactical athlete" but I find it all vastly underestimates the amount of volume one is able to handle. For rasp on the physical side the most important aspect is going to be your general cardio, one because while you can always more or less shitbag things that are stationary (excluding worms and shit) things that require you to move will make it obvious who is better than who, and two because having a large aerobic base allows you to recover from efforts more quickly, and lastly accumulating a large amount of running volume will inprove your work capacity immensely which is inportant for recovery and not getting snapped up when you're getting smoked all day. If you're already good at this, as in you can comfortably run an okay 50 miler focus on strength training as that is the flip side of injury prevention and will make things like rucking and buddy carries a lower percentage of you strength capacity, allowing you to more easily express those endurance adaptations.
That being said the vast vast majority people who try to go to rasp will never class up because they cannot score high enough on the PT test at pre rasp. You need to be scoring over 100% in every category to class up most of the time unless you're some weird soft skill mos, and so the class up pt test, and diagnostic ruck should be your #1 priority
specificity wise.
t. Been there did that, succeeded. inb4 no you didn't proofs - blow it out your ass I don't care if you believe me
>which of course is overkill for volume
That's only 18 miles. Not even a full marathon worth of distance.
My mistake, you're right on that one. It was probably more or maybe it was every 2 hours.
squats and dead hangs to help counter spinal compression and knee ruination from carrying heavy shit all day.
Cardio till you get pinned then you start actually pinning.
Sir! I would do 3 sets of having my wife cheat on me while I'm deployed. SIR!
> on your knees until failure
> suck cock until failure
> hoorahs until failure
Look up Matt Wennings tactical training books. He helped make the new army fitness test. He uses weight training but mostly to get you strong enough to prevent injury, and then focuses on strength endurance and cardio.
I used his stuff to help train a friend that was mostly sedentary to get them ready for a law enforcement fitness test. We got his back and legs strong with sleds and kettlebells before introducing most barbell work. By the end of 6 months we took him from not being able to squat all the way down to 1/2/3/4 and swinging a 50lb kettlebell for 5 minutes straight. No regular running during that timeframe, but between the long kettlebell work and a lot of sprints and weighted carries, we got him ready for the running test with just 3 weeks of reduced resistance training (1 day weights 1 day calisthenics) with 3x a week running. Once the cardio base was up we were able to reintroduce regular gym training with only running twice a month for maintenance.
Embrace the Platypus life
>well rounded soldier
Beyond being able to carry shit they don't really need anything else.
An explosive bolted into the rib next to their upper spine that gets remote detonated if they rape or torture POWs would make war a lot more civilised.
Different tasks are suited better for different bodies. Breeding manlets to better serve in cramped spaces like tanks and ships would be useful.
bumping for interest
the marines train pretty much only using pullups, close-grip pushups, planks, crunches, long distance cardio, and obstacle courses--and like every marine has the same body type of lean with huge arms.
I was also thinkig about joining army
Specifically paratroopers for obvious reasons
It an "elite" unit so you have to meet requirements min 10 pullups LMAO
But im not sure about doing 33 pushups in 30 seconds
Btw Euro to the eastern side so go fuck yourself about dying for israel
The same stuff they already do. There's a reason that every military converges on the same basic fitness programme.
>for soldiers
Don't forget, you need 3 jabs to properly simulate the modern soldier
dont get hit by a bullet xInfinite
Former arctic ranger here. Fuck everyone saying you need to lift in the gym. My only advice for you is to buy a heavy ass backpack, fill it with 40kgs to start and go on a long ass hike. Day after day, long ass hikes with a heavy backpack. Take care of your feet, drink lots of water.
Thats all there is too it, benching 315 is useless as a soldier, your job is to walk long distances without seeing stars, then if youre extremely lucky you will see enemy out of your weapons reach to not shoot at. If youre the norm though, artillery would kill you long before you see an enemy
getting blackout drunk and fucking barracks groupies in between soul crushing hazing sessions and deployments nobody will ever care about xf