Useless crap. Just like all the asiatic rodent medicine. If you take it and think it works, you're a double digit IQ retard.
The only things that truly works from the supps are the obvious ones:
>A-Z
>D3+K
>Zinc (take Copper as well if you have more than 40mg of zinc in your diet)
>Magnesium
Some people swear by Boron, if you're deficient and you're most likely are.
>Boron has been the best supplement I've ever taken..... I did a lab test before boron and my free test was 12 after two weeks of boron it went up to 29. I was so happy ... This works and I have the labs to show.
>10 mg of boron 14 days on 7 days off
>I take it on mornings close to breakfast, heard any brand is good but I used Swanson products
>I took 12mg 2 weeks on and 1 week off long term and it killed my libido. I came off and libido came back.
>Someone suggested to take 6mg 2 weeks on and two weeks off. He said after a while Boron increases estrogen, so you have to take 2 weeks off because Boron has a long half life and you have to allow estrogen to go back down.
Don't support the Asiatic rodent supplement industry. Their magical herbs and literal dogshit doesn't work, it's all placebo.
i have wasted like 400$ on ginseg, tribulus and ashwaganda, never felt any results besides the fact that it made me more depressed and numb.
It's the ashwaganda that makes you numb. It's literally an SSRI. People that take it for some good results are absolute retards that can't do their research.
Fatty, fatty, triggered nightly,
Went on IST to troll so slightly,
Won't take supps, it's devil's lettuce
"Do your research", it will tell us.
When claiming truth, with greasy vigor
Doesn't link, smug guffaw and smoron
Everyone knows he is just some moron.
>tribulus
dried in pill form or in liquid extract it is pure shit.
Here is how i use it and it works like a charm:
Buy dried tribulus and add 11 large table spoons in a pot (around 60 g).
Add 2.5-6 L of cold water.
Stir and put on medium heat.
When it starts boiling remove from fire and let it sit for 24 h.
Strain with a strainer and then use gauze or some other very fine fabric to strain it again ( tribulus has super tiny and sharp thorns and other sorts of tiny crap in it)
Add 2 spoons of lemon juice (as preservative ) , store that in a fridge.
At the end you need to have 2.1 L of extract. (squeeze the juice out of the stuff you strained by hand )
Drinking it :
100ml 3 times a day (after eating, if you can, nasty side effect is crazy appetite ) for a week (7x300 = 2100 the extract should last you exactly 1 week)
1 week
10 days rest
2nd week
10 days rest
3rd week
1 month rest
DO NOT DRINK ALCOHOL as it negates the effects.
1st week you might not feel much , by week 3 you'll see the results.
Thanks m8, saved.
What does it do?
Tribulus boosts my horny like crazy, ash makes me laid back so it works fine.
Lol... why wouldn't you just spend 200 bucks on var and call it a day.
Wait can you take anavar by itself? I thought it always had to be with test?
No dude, you can take it alone and put on permanent lean muscle mass. The regular prescription for patients with wasting diseases, AIDS, burn victims, or long term surgery recovery is just 20-25mg/day for 3-10 weeks. Nothing else. It'll temporarily decrease test (by like 30%) but increase anabolic activity overall.
2 based. Sensible anon dropping truthbombs on us in the frog congregation.
And become flabby, bloated chud once you're off the magical drugs. Fuck off back to your contaiment, roidtrannies.
Roiding is literally one step from becoming a literal chud.
bros will spend $400 on creatine, whey, ginseng, ashwagandaha, peepeepoopoo, but when it comes to effective anabolics invented in the 21st century it's all "waaah chud".
Doesn't matter unless you want to compete honorably in school/professional sports.
Why do you talk like a moron.
>trannies injecting hormones
mentally ill! Cringe!
>roidfags injecting hormones
Based!!
If you roid and shit on trannies, you’re delusional
If you roid and accept trannies, you’re a gay
It's for completely different reasons, one is that you think you are a different sex/gender, the other is to enhance muscle building ability. It literally reinforces and amplifies what you already are as a man. In the case of women you have a point as they pretty much always masculinizes them even on oxandrolone. Even with women its different than with trannies as they aren't doing it because they delusionally think it will make them men.
The moment you stop taking it, you are literally weaker than natties.
Literally not, you recruited motor units in a high androgen environment that couldn't have gotten training natural. It's why if you ever used you will always have an advantage over the hypothetical natural you.
The opposite. The moment you start taking it, you are stronger than natties forever. When you stop taking it you might be slightly worse than your roided peak, but still better than natty.
roiders are insecure shitheads in most cases. unironically i would rather grow tits and put on skirt than become bloated restless meat golem. yikes!
You realize the ones that roid and don't tell you are the vast majority of them right? 1% of the US roided at some point.
yes. there are plenty of douchebags that lift. lifters have more inteligent sane people and more shitheads than general population it seems.
Is that like a gay fetish from millennials to make everything about transsexuals? I really don’t get the connection transsexuals are people that change their sexuality. Bodybuilder use steroids to gain more muscles how are these connected? Or is that another sexualization by millennials ?
Whoa there Crabs McBetaboy. Why are you so insecure?
I'm not at all. I'm bigger natty than majority of roidtrannies, what's even better, full head of thick hair and no hormonal issues. I've been observing roidtrannies both irl and on the internet for years. And it's always the same ending. It's all for fucking nothing.
Really? You sound very sincere and knowledgeable about the myriad reasons people have for wanting to get jacked af. Thanks for not wanting to judge others or censor others experiences, much appreciated bro. Crabs grow when they molt.
I am sincere. You sound like a roidchud that knows demise is coming. Keep squealing piggy, PCT won't save you.
We will definitely listen to an expert like you who is looking out for other anons who are not scared of their own shadows.
I would literally stab you to death
Ah now I know why you are so irrational
We have an Arab on this board
Literally the religion of peace salamalikum
I'm from Eastern Europe. We hate gays here.
Inshallah salamalaikum i don’t speak Arab sorry cockroach
I have zero muslims in my country, you low T western subhuman.
Dude no offense but everyone can easily tell by the way you are writing that you are Pakistani or Arab. At least some kind of Muslim. I know you don’t have any schools and you flee to our country’s to stay at home and collect welfare Mohammed
If you want test just pin test.
> Boron
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8508192/
> The findings suggest that 7 weeks of bodybuilding can increase total testosterone, lean body mass, and strength in lesser trained bodybuilders, and that boron supplementation had no effect on these measures.
No better than a placebo
>the findings suggest
>gay concludes the results as fact
try harder Moshe
Post body bitch tits
your turn Goldberg
boron is not some roid. it's essential micronutrient that is needed for testosterone production. If you don't have it, you have a low test. If you take people with normal levels, you get such results.
What i don't really understand is why people cycle boron. It's not roid, it's just nutrient. You don't cycle when you eat raising, grapes or nuts...
It has a ton of other benefits besides raising (normalizing) test.
natty test boosting is BS and you are wasting your time and effort
Idk brah I’ve felt a lot better taking methylation co factors, an electrolyte blend with potassium as well as the magnesium, nad stuff, and iodine
bro you forgot omega 3 fatty acids. almost as essential as d3 and zinc for testosterone production and overall health
eat your god damn salmon to get enough DHA and EPA
interesting reads: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-01-fish-oil-supplements-men-dads.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7912656/
women (if there are any on IST lmao, trannies dont count) also benefit from d3 and omega 3
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29859385/
Yes, fish oils are good. But you're most likely to find the rancid ones that will cause more harm than good.
Just eat canned fish like sardines twice in a week or really fatty fish, doesn't have to be salmon. Find something cheaper.
I tried all kinds of supplement because I felt weak and I had no energy in the morning, then I tried to take vitamin D6, iron+vitamic c and magnesium chelate and after a month I feel a complete different person
I typed trenbolone in on Amazon Australia and got this stuff called turkesterone come up. Have any of you boys tried either of these?
I might get the keksterone and make a booking with the GP for the trenbolone because that's a prescription medicine.
Supplements are mostly horseshit. D3 in northern latitudes and fish oil are the only likely to provide any benefit to you. The rest are a good example of the placebo effect, but there's cheaper ways to get that.
>spending 100s of hours researching how to increase testosterone by 0.0001%
I really don't get the modern IST culture. Why would you do it? Why to spend so much time on such marginal improvements? Why to lift at all for other than health benefits (for which moderate cardio is probably more than enough)? I've been to a war and have seen the loudest and most obnoxious self-proclaimed "alpha" types breaking down like little girls. If you're doing all the lifting just for looks, then you're simply a narcissist and should get some help. Don't get me wrong, you shouldn't be weak or fat but being able to bench 3pl8s for reps as opposed to only 2pl8s don't matter at all for when it comes to being a man. Every time I see a young guy whose entire life seems to circle around going to gym for aesthetics, stashed out in some expensive gym attire and taking tons of photos with his phone, I think if he's actually realizing how feminine he is.
That's a lot of projection in one post, sounds almost like you're describing yourself.
Huh once your ma age kiddo, you will know there is more to life huh. I have been in two wars. And I have seen yo called „man“ and veterans, who thought they were hot shit just cuz they thought in one measly war, break down and cry like little girls. Some of them even wet themselves crying and seething
>w-w-what is going on i wish i would be able to bench more then 2 plates
Don’t take it to hard little kid you will get there with time.
Being a man is about being real to oneself and not in denial.
We had lots of closeted army guys. Some became really angry and resentful cuz they couldn’t handle their own gayness they projected it into others over weird stuff like going to the gym and taking care of how they look
>look at these fags taking PICTURES of themselves!!!
They would cry. Later i would find out they would suck off every fag in the gym.
Cheer up bucko you will grow up one day huh
tongkat ali, ashwagandha, horny goat weed, maca...all of that is fucking bullshit. exotic herbs sold by 3rd worlders as snake oil and exploited by garden gnome supplement companies