Vegans

Live longer (approx 10 years)
With less disease
Have a lower risk of cancer

Why are you eating meat?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Vegans lie.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Sorry, I'm not a chud

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Really? A speedrunner with a speedrun website is your first example of men succumbing to sõ ybeans?
      The Golden One eats sô y and sometimes vegan for several months.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you will never be a real herbivore.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    veganism existed for maybe 9 years, how do they live longer lmao?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      See

      Vegans lie.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This watch 90’s tv shows and you’ll see plenty of characters who depicted as froo froo and claim to be vegetarian. Veganism as a concept just didn’t exist.
      The only diet in the world that mirrors veganism is the fasting rules for Eastern Orthodox christians where they abstain from meet, fish, eggs, oil, wine, and dairy(but not shellfish so even then not full vegan).

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Turtles live for 150 years or more. We should slowly crawl around.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the human body doesn't need fiber
    you can get 100% of the nutrients you need from an animal based diet
    animal based diet is the most macro efficient diet as it doesn't require mono-ag and literally just requires you let every other animal live naturally and you simply hunt
    cholesterol is vital to human health
    it all tastes amazing

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      None of this is true. Post body (you won't)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >post body
        This kills the carnischizo
        Eat a balanced diet HWD kings

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Based. Carnies never post body

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >the human body doesn't need fiber
        kekd

        Imagine being anti-science in the year 2022.

        >Diet rapidly and reproducibly alters the human gut microbiome
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3957428/
        >0 fiber diet caused no change in alpha-diversity and an increase in beta-diversity.

        >Dietary fiber intervention on gut microbiota composition in healthy adults: a systematic review and meta-analysis
        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29757343/
        >No differences in effect were found between fiber intervention and comparators for α-diversity, abundances of other prespecified bacteria, or other SCFA concentrations.
        >Dietary fiber intervention does not affect α-diversity

        >Stopping or reducing dietary fiber intake reduces constipation and its associated symptoms
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3435786/
        >However, the reality is that stool moisture content remains at 70%-75% regardless of the amount of fiber and water consumed

        >Differential Effects of Western and Mediterranean-Type Diets on Gut Microbiota: A Metagenomics and Metabolomics Approach
        https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/13/8/2638
        >no change in discomfort, distension, bloating when fiber added to diet
        >FMD (extra fiber) group had much more flatulence, anal gas evacuations, stool frequency and weight

        Your turn to post 1 study (just one single study) showing that no fiber = bad.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Devils trips lol
          Just read and stop wasting your life on discussions

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Just read

          *

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Literally (literally) none of that is relevant and doesn't make meat healthy
          >Gut microbiome
          Not relevant
          >reducing fiber cures constipation
          Not relevant. Applies to non normative group with irregular digestive habits
          >Gur microbiome again
          Again, not relevant
          >western and Mediterranean diet effects on gut
          Literally irrelevant to your point
          You are just copy pasting Random studies lol. Post body (you won't)

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >multiple scientific studies where people ate 0 fiber and were in good health, nobody developed any adverse symptoms
            >m-meat isn't healthy st-stop posting random studies
            Aww babby is angry because I proved "FIBER ISN'T NECESSARY."

            Unless you have any evidence to the contrary (you don't).

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You are arguing a point nobody here cares about. Fiber not being necessary has nothing to do with veganism being life extending and disease thwarting. Coffee isn't necessary, but it decreased risk of Alzheimer's, therefore its a good addition to a diet. Fiber might not be necessary, but it lowers cholesterol and fiber containing foods have immense health benefits. You are arguing a point that doesn't matter

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >blah blah blah I can't read and here's more claims made with no evidence
                >cholesterol bad blah blah I don't even know what cholesterol is
                zzz

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ok kid

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Haha oops I dropped some research studies about cholesterol, help me pick them up.

                https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0140673697044309
                >Total cholesterol and risk of mortality in the oldest old
                >Each 1 mmol/L increase in total cholesterol corresponded to a 15% decrease in mortality (risk ratio 0–85 [95% Cl 0·79–0·91]).
                >Mortality from cancer and infection was significantly lower among the participants in the highest total cholesterol category
                >In people older than 85 years, high total cholesterol concentrations are associated with longevity owing to lower mortality from cancer and infection.

                https://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i1246
                >Re-evaluation of the traditional diet-heart hypothesis: analysis of recovered data from Minnesota Coronary Experiment (1968-73)
                >The MCE (1968-73) is a double blind randomized controlled trial designed to test whether replacement of saturated fat with vegetable oil rich in linoleic acid reduces coronary heart disease and death by lowering serum cholesterol.
                >Available evidence from randomized controlled trials shows that replacement of saturated fat in the diet with linoleic acid effectively lowers serum cholesterol but does not support the hypothesis that this translates to a lower risk of death from coronary heart disease or all causes.

                https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/86/8/3574/2848584
                >Insulin Resistance as a Predictor of Age-Related Diseases
                >Insulin resistance predicts age-related diseases.
                >200 healthy people tested for insulin resistance.
                >After 6 years, no one in lowest third got heart disease, stroke, cancer, hypertension, or diabetes.
                >Ratio of total/HDL cholesterol predictor of tertile

                By the way, I'm happy to explain what cholesterol is and how diet affects it and what values are important to measure for your own personal health. Just let me know. Here's my cholesterol test. Perfect resting triglycerides, perfect HDL/total ratio, super high HDL.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                -ACK

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                -ACK

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >offer is made to teach you something
                >choose to be ignorant and obnoxious instead of learning
                Are you 14? Veganism is gonna mess with your puberty, bro.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >post body
        This kills the carnischizo
        Eat a balanced diet HWD kings

        Based. Carnies never post body

        Vegans never post body

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the human body doesn't need fiber
      kekd

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't want to look or act like this

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Holy shit, get that man some testosterone stat

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Are you worried cauliflower will turn you gnomish?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >head is over half the width of the shoulders
      How?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Greger was raised in a small Arizona town, "the only gnomish family within...
      DISMISSED.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You don't need to just eat normally, no one is telling you to do keto you schizoid

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      God I fucking hate close ups of fat people stuffing their face. Skinnyfag here, if I ever need to cut ill watch this kinda stuff. Immediate hunger deletion

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Calorie deficit is known to longer the lifespan in living organisms, also humans. Vegans do live longer, but the tradeoff is not being the best version of yourself in the process of living. Surely when I get old, I can start quiet lifestyle, but in youth I want to conquer the world and be the best of all men.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Well you will do None of that so I mean I don't understand your argument

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Calorie deficit is known to longer the lifespan in living organisms
      No it doesn’t.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It’s easy. Eat a surplus until 50 then a deficit until 100.
      Also 99% of longevity is genetic and there is NOTHING you can do about it you’ll just die young if you are a genelet

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      CICO isn't a diet and veganism definitely does not extend your lifespan, unless you are comparing veganism vs. the Standard American Diet (which is absolute garbage).

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are there any studies on scientists lying to fit in with government narratives?

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it fucked up my thyroid function and overall health after two years of trying god damn everything to make it work for me. correlation does not equal causation wrt health benefits, and "diet" is such a low resolution observable marker for individuals that its almost all a guessing game unless you are constantly doing medical testing. you might be vegan but have you done a dexa bone scan?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This mishmash of ranting is incomprehensible and irrelevant. Try again.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Veganism makes you sick. As any vegan can confirm, btw. I know some big shots in the German vegan scene, not gonna name any names, they are all sick. Digestion is shot, health is shot.

        They still won't stop though, it's their career.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Hmm I think I'll pick a diet today.

    How about veganism? What's the first thing I need to know about veganism?

    >this is an incomplete diet and you need to eat lab-made supplements or you will DIE

    How anyone remains a vegan after their 1st Google search I have no idea. I literally cannot fathom how people think the healthiest diet needs to be supplemented lol.

    >muh animals
    Monocropping and mass harvesting is responsible for the deaths of millions of animals.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ah yes google, not biased at all. I wonder if trans women are real women. Let me ask google, surely its scientifically accurate and not influenced at all by outside forces.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Are you seriously insinuating that veganism doesn't need supplementation...?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If you eat varied foods all you need is b12. I'd much rather take a vitamin that's missing from the surface of fruits and vegetables and grains since we moved out of our natural habitat and mechanized food production that suffer the many maladies that come with eating animals

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >plants used to have B12 (source: my ass) therefore veganism doesn't really require supplementation
            Damn these mental gymnastics hurt to read. Are you going to make any more wild, unsourced claims?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >impplying that you could possibly get enough b12 by eating unwashed fruits.
            Even if that was possible, I still wouldn't risk getting a tapeworm

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Would getting a tapeworm make someone not vegan anymore?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >mono cropping and mass harvest
      Thats literally how the feed for livestock is made. There would be less agricultural land use in general if everyone was vegan.
      Im not a veganfag, but thats retard logic.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's literally how feed for the cheapest shittiest livestock you buy at your local grocery store is made, not mine.
        >less land use if everyone was a vegan
        Yup because everyone would just grow food in their porch gardens, right? Get real.

        Also you shouldn't speak about agriculture if you don't know that you can't just grow plants in one spot and have the soil be perfect forever. Animals are on the planet for a reason.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >That's literally how feed for the cheapest shittiest livestock you buy at your local grocery store is made, not mine.
          I highly doubt the meat you regularly eat does not use some form of mass produced feed. But I am open to change my mind, its not impossible. How do you source your meat?
          >Also you shouldn't speak about agriculture if you don't know that you can't just grow plants in one spot and have the soil be perfect forever.
          Good thing I did know that then. Did you know >80% of crops are grown as part of a crop rotation? Because its more commercially viable?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      See

      Vegans lie.

      People don’t do their own research and instead listen to vegan lies

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My heart pain (angina) went away after i went vegan (low fat high carb, high fiber)

    This is all the evidence i need. You guys are young, you think eating meat etc is healthy for you and won't affect you, but you will get heart problems eventually from it, especially if you have a family history like me.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Meat is tasty, and living to be a centenarian seems pointless. How much are you really living past your 70s?

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Trans vegetables are hum-ACK!

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw vegans brains crave meat despite their beliefs because we are hard-wired to LOVE MEAT
    >tfw vegans are depressed and have mental health issues due to multiple vitamin deficiencies which could be cured with 4 oz of beef liver a week

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31254550/
    >Food processing and emotion regulation in vegetarians and omnivores: An event-related potential investigation
    >Twenty-four vegetarians and twenty-one omnivores were instructed to either passively look at the pictures (Watch) or to change the appetitive value of the food
    >In vegetarians, meat and fish dishes elicited lower desire to eat, pleasantness, and arousal during each condition as compared to both omnivores and vegetarian food.
    >In contrast with the subjective data, no group differences were observed in any of the ERP measures, suggesting that similar neural processing of food-cues occurred in vegetarians and omnivores both during passive viewing and cognitive reappraisal.
    >Overall, our findings suggest that, in vegetarians, aversion towards nonvegetarian food prevails at the subjective level and is consistent with their personal beliefs. In contrast, at the neural level, the intrinsic motivational salience of this type of food is preserved.

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10408398.2021.1974336?_kx=m5L24Zq1U2xHVe5dyJ7t775cIGSh4sjfK1f91tfxH_o%3D.WY2S6U
    >Meat consumption was associated with lower depression and lower anxiety compared to meat abstention.
    >Compared to vegans, meat consumers experienced both lower depression and anxiety. Sex did not modify these relations.
    >The analysis also showed that the more rigorous the study, the more positive and consistent the relation between meat consumption and better mental health.
    >Our results show that meat abstention (vegetarianism or veganism) is clearly associated with poorer mental health, specifically higher levels of both depression and anxiety.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Assuming that’s even true, it could have to do with a virtually limitless range of other factors, including geographic, temporal, and demographic factors which social science has not yet found an adequate way to handle.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Live longer (approx 10 years)
    Why would you want to tack 10 years onto the worst part of your life?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Longevity isn't about adding onto the end, it's about adding onto the middle

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's nice. By the way, the notion that the vegan diet makes you live longer is totally made up.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    because none of those statements are true and you are a lying fucking gay, that's why
    any more stupid question?

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    in a week i eat around 2kg of meat 10 liters of milk, 56 eggs and more eastern european food with meat. no.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nice milk and egg numbers, but you're only eating 285 grams of meat per day?

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Being is caloric deficits over long periods of time prolong life. I’ve seen people die indirectly because veganism makes the so weak they are unable to combat disease. A lot of vegans have low b12 and all the women are anemic. Vegans are weaker than their meat eating counterparts, and when compared with the non obese more prone to injury. All kids that are raised on veganism are malnourished and ultimately end up stunted in growth and many in mental development due to lack of b12 and cholesterol. I would report every vegan parent for child abuse if I could, and I hate vegans with a passion since they prey on people is vulnerable positions and can ultimately cause irreparable damage to children.
    t. medfag

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hello ser, massively brain damaged lifelong vegan reporting in

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You will never be a real herbivore. You have no rumen, you have no reticulum, you have no omasum. You are a carnivore animal twisted by industrial society into a crude mockery of nature's perfection.

    All the "validation" you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people wear wool. Your parents are pissed off at you, your "friends" throw some barbecues without inviting you.

    People are utterly annoyed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed humans to digest meat with incredible efficiency. Even vegans who "lift" look malnourished and weak to people. Your bone density is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get someone to eat with you, they'll turn tail and bolt the second they get a whiff of your disgusting, indigestible slop.

    You will never be healthy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it's going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the deficiencies creeping up like weeds, ready to crush you under the unbearable 1pl8.

    Eventually it'll be too much to bear - you'll attempt to deadlift 2pl8, grab the bar to pull it, and break your spine in half. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to hide the leather couch whenever you visit. They'll bury you with a headstone marked with your cause of death, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a vegan is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that wil remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably fractured.

    This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Versus who? The typical average omnivorous SAD eater? Or versus someone who eats an animal based diet with moderate amounts of carbs, vegeatbleas and fruit and minimal to no processed foods? I think that answer IS the answer.

    Google "healthy user bias" for more answers and insight.

    Carniphobia does not create health.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Veganism has only been around since the 90’s and nobody has done it their whole life so how can you say this?

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There were vegans in fucking 5000 BC. Of course the name is a recent invention

    Also, there are thousands of lifelong vegans around right now, there are even second and third generation lifelong vegans... wth IST I remember you being a bit less braindead.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Please provide the name of 1 vegan society or culture in all of history.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        there are none

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >There were vegans in fucking 5000 BC.

      Not human ones. If you didn't eat what was available you tended to die off pretty quickly in all of human history up to about 80 years ago.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Traditionally living populations had no Western diseases and placed high value on animal fats, seafood, eggs, full fat milk and cheese

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    L O L
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  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You're forgetting the fact that this is compared to the average American, who are already pieces of shit. So when they go vegan they are actually eating healthy food instead of shovelling greasy, processed shit down their throats.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A vegan once told me eggs were more dangerous than cigarettes. So that alone let me know it was a load of horseshit.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Why are you eating meat?
    Because they like the taste, it makes them feel manly, and it's a cheap, easy to cook protein source.

    Anything else is cope.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is eating cum vegan? I've seen people say it is because it's consensual, but what if you mouth rape someone, would that be vegan?

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I actually eat plants for taste pleasure.
    They give me the runs. The main food I can keep down are animal foods like meat, dairy, and eggs with a bit of grain.

    I like beans but they give me such bad heartburn I tend to just avoid them.

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