Was 16 years old 190lbs Seid natty? Posted on February 5, 2023 by Anonymous Was 16 years old 190lbs Seid natty?
steroids aren't magic either, the people that blow up on them are usually already big naturally, and most people that use them barely look like they lift at all because they didn't have a good base to begin with.
>steroids aren't magic either, the people that blow up on them are usually already big naturally
>b-b-but I said usually!!
ok sure buddy
he's also on more gear than just about everyone on the same stage, the kind of moderate doses that they use for aesthetics are not comparable to bodybuilding.
you aren't a hyper responder if you're on 5000 mg of test to be big.
the mass monsters you see are good responders to gear and are blasting to the moon on dosages. don't fool yourself
although statement is stupid yours isn't much better. Seid's stack is nothing compared to your picrel
god damn modern "top tier" competitive body building is so disgusting, late 70s is the golden standard, wtf happened? Judges started wanting people to no longer be beautiful spectacles but disgusting freaks?
bodybuilders already looked disgusting in the 70's and the mr olympia was created by a predatory homosexual with a muscle fetish as masturbation event for the underground gay community of the 60's, because gay porn didn't exist much back then, only magazines with muscular men.
good looking men with muscle aren't defined by any era, there were many back in the day, there's still many today, but they don't place well in competitions, because the judges are selecting for homosexuality.
Jeff said moggs old and new body builder because he isny obssesed try hard 5% body fat
Watched a doc about this. There was a time when they made steroids illegal in bodybuilding and the people paying $500 for tickets were all "wtf is this? I just paid a bunch of money for these tickets. I want to see some freaks". And then roids were once again allowed and encouraged.
Boomer cope. Larry Scott was gobbling so much dbol his liver practically fell out, Arnold started popping pills the same day he walked into a gym, Frank Zane melted his thyroid abusing t3. Bodybuilding has always been about abusing as much drugs as possible to be as big and ripped as possible, Dorian and Ronnie and Jay just had more and better drugs than they did in the "Golden Era"
Objectively speaking, the Brad Pitt Fight Club physique is the most attractive according to pretty much every single poll ever done and anyone bigger than Steve Reeves is repulsive to 90% of normal people
aren't magic either, the people that blow up on them are usually already big naturally
He said he didn't know what he was doing at his first show and overdieted and lost alot of muscle. He started the diet weighing over 220lbs, he was always big but had no idea how to get ripped without losing tons of muscle...........
>I totally believe everything that people tell me
No way he had a physique of 5+ year natty lifter at age of 16 without roids.
of course he did, you need that kind of base if you want to look good on steroids, this is him at 17 not much bigger.
his physique is the result of an already good natural base + low to moderate dosages of steroids.
if you have a shit base running the same compounds as he does you still won't look like you lift.
>tgis was tyson at 13-16
>still looks like this
almost everyone that does well as bodybuilder was already bigger than most people will ever be less than two years into training.
there's a few exceptions but they're mostly guys with insane drug tolerance running extremely high dosages such as
who will probably die early regardless, models are running dosages of 500mg< with some mild orals at best, you don't blow up on that unless you already have an amazing base to begin with.
meanwhile skywalker has been blasting and cruising for a fucking decade at this point and still looks like someone that does calisthenics at the local park because he does not have a good base.
He clearly is off roids in your picture though
Skywalker in his prime looked very aesthetic with good mass, structure and definition
he blasts and cruises, he doesn't go off, hardly anyone still cycles in 2023 because test is cheaper than whey.
skywalker has never at any point in his entire career been big, he has a ffmi of like 20-21.
Fuck I thought he would get significantly bigger during his blasts
Might be pump, lightning and photoshop game on point
>test is cheaper than whey.
i-is this true? I've been thinking about how bloody expensive protein sources are lately, could I make savings by switching to steroids?
Its true now, in 2023. A year of test is around 300$.
His core is good and decent lats. Maybe injury prevets him from training chest arms shoulders.
his chest is good, abs are cut, everything else is mid, tris are shit tho - i will not post body
Tell that to the 15-17 year olds on TikTok on the broest brosplit with shit form and McDonalds who make more gains in a year than a natty in 5 years with a perfect routine, perfect form and a perfect diet.
Roids substitude hard work. If you're not big on roids, you aren't pinning enough. Simple as.
>make more gains in a year than a natty in 5 years with a perfect routine, perfect form and a perfect diet.
they don't, your examples just don't train as hard as they pretend they do, or are genetic dead ends (american)
you can't continue upping the dose without sides, you'd visually be able to see it.
Umm, sweaty? Yes they do. You must be new to lifting, I'd suggest you lurk moar for a bit, 'kay?
he didn't get big, he got fat.
most of his pictures are pump + lighting + leaning into the camera.
from a distance without angles he's not much bigger than the people that post in the current body threads, the only difference being is that they're not able to get this lean while retaining as much fullness, but that's glycogen and not muscle.
this is what you can expect if you are skinny, don't gain muscle easily, and roid on a moderate dosage, in comparison jeff was already bigger than this naturally, hence why he looks the way he does today.
tall people struggle to gain mass on their limbs.
his everything is shit for how long he's been at it.
Damn. Thats crazy reverse progress
>bigger than nattys that been lifting for close to 10 years (NH, Alex, Nippard, Issuf)
>noooooo roids are not a magic pill you guyssssss
yes this moron got fat but if you cannot see that hes also giga muscular you are delusional
Don't worry, roidtrannies know this better than anyone and will cope by saying that you still need to lift heavy and properly to gain muscle.
Would you want to be called out for being a faking cheating fraud? Don't think so.
kek this is EXACTLY how someone at my gym responded.
>"No I don't do roids, I'm just 18 with high testosterone"
>Say something about roids being magic
>Gets hella defensive
>muh work hard
Ok, have you ever met someone on steroids tho? your just posting these freaks. Bunch more dudes just end up still looking like shit on roids
Because they are not pinning enough.
Because they have diet and training defeciencies
Give a malnourished Indian sewer cleaner with the worst genetics in the world 2 grams of test and a bodybuilding coach and diet, and in terms of muscle mass, he'll be far beyond even the chaddiest Scandinavian with perfect genetics within a few years
Majority of scandis looks like shit
Was arnold a dicklet?
not on a moderate dose.
this is what happens when midwits try to interpret studies, the increases in that study were glycogen, no actual dry muscle tissue.
it was measured by circumference.
most of the 'aesthetics' guys are not on high doses.
>most of the 'aesthetics' guys are not on high doses.
According to whom? The said guys themselves?
>this is what happens when midwits try to interpret studies, the increases in that study were glycogen, no actual dry muscle tissue.
>it was measured by circumference.
Bzzzz, wrong roid coper.
It was real muscle. That's why the roiders who sat on their ass gained almost as much strength as the natties who worked out.
Steroids build muscle and strength without having to work out. Why do you think the average untrained man is more muscular and stronger than untrained women. Why is it that before puberty, boys and girls have about the same muscle and strength, but during puberty boys suddenly get more muscular and stronger without working out. Could it be that their testosterone levels go up 20 times which builds muscle without working out?
The 50lbs difference of muscle mass between a peak natty bodybuilder and the same bodybuilder peak roiding is due to steroids and not training/eating, as they both train and eat the same according to their bodies needs in both instances. The difference in muscle mass is entirely do to higher anabolic signaling from steroids.
Curious, how much testosterone were the subjects on in that study.
I actually tested this unintentionally. I was roiding on 1.5+g of gear and stopped lifting for 2 months. I lost about 10lbs and lost muscle.
Among other problems with that study doesn't account for an extended period of time. Meaning, have have a guy sit on 600mg test for 2 years with no excercise and have another lift for 2 years natty. Natty guy will be bigger and stronger.
Look at the actual methodology of the study. They always use terrible lifting routines which basically makes them all irrelevant.
>roiding only works if you have a terrible routine
>by which I mean a routine not created by a youtube influencer
You're not quite as smart as you think, bro.
This is bullshit, go fuck yourself. Studies have shown people on roids who didnt lift building muscle faster than lifters
>oh but no, the drugs aren't important,
>it's muh hard work and diet
LOL do you fags even
most retarded post I've ever seen
What did he compete in? All I can say is that when I was an active athlete 20 years ago (when I was 16) I would have taken anything to improve my performance and I wasn't even worried about looking good like he was. I just didn't know anything about steroids at the time but I have zero doubt I would have taken shit had I had the knowledge.
Left is legit the best picture of the kid.
Jeff looks better now that he is on roids mr dyek
No, he looks like a retard.
Looks roided, but 16 yo hormones are pretty intense
american high school coaches of football, wrestling teams etc hand out roids to their kids like candy
lil throwback to when I was a 15 year old weapons master lolol.
No,I think he started roiding very early,some athletes do whatever it takes at any age even 12 or 13 years of age.
Klokov moggs all mortals, and he surrly roided but obviously never blasted epic amounts, because he was never caught
Genetic is 40% Roids 30% Lifts: 15% Diet 15%
>obviously never blasted epic amounts, because he was never caught
bro olympic weightlifting is all about bribes and sneaky business. He could be on enough steroids to kill a horse but still pass tests.
>He could be on enough steroids to kill a horse
Wouldn't he be dead then?
he still has to get into his weight class so he wont go all out like a roidchud moronbuilder
You can be on grams of chemicals while also staying at a reasonable body weight. It's all about the chemicals used and the deployment strategy.
Diet is way more than 15% brehh
He's not 190lbs there.
This guy is a chemical soup of modern medical marvels. His dad put him on gear when he was 12.
you will NEVER get the satisfaction of becoming big through natural means after years of dedication
you will NEVER again have normal sized testicles
you will NEVER produce natural testosterone when you will go off roids
you will NEVER live past 50
You are an addict. You are a fraud - which you know deep inside, it's your deepest insecurity. Your presence repels women. You are a mutant freak who has built up drug dependency to the point where you feel feminine without them.
You will NEVER be natty.
>Your presence repels women
anon I'm natural but you're delusional if you think most women wouldn't fuck a roided hunk like seid
All roiders have this insecure aura around them except for top stars and influencers who get enough attention to make up for their deep seated body dysmorphia. They are shit with women.
>most women wouldn't fuck a roided hunk like seid
Then why isn't he married? He's like 30 now.
The moment you bring out the viagra to harden your tiny pencil they run.
>you will NEVER get the satisfaction of becoming big through natural means after years of dedication
you need to do it like chad did because otherwise its le bad
>you will NEVER again have normal sized testicles
HCG and aromatase innibitor exist
>you will NEVER produce natural testosterone when you will go off roids
>you will NEVER live past 50
low dose of trt and aromatase innibotr are cheap and wont get you to die liek the mr olympia guys
>You are an addict. You are a fraud - which you know deep inside, it's your deepest insecurity. Your presence repels women. You are a mutant freak who has built up drug dependency to the point where you feel feminine without them.
I m better then you and i actualy achieved it even though nature disagreed with it
>You will NEVER be natty.
thank God imagine looking like a dyel
you're a big fag
Idiot. You belong here on IST.
Is he bugger than you? Then yes, he's roding.
Works every time.
>that forearm in the second pic
nah this moron roiding since day 1
I crack up 100% of the time I see the mpmd guy. Just the fugliest physique ever
I've been lifting for years natty and put on a lot of muscle in 1 year of 180MG TRT. Have friends who also got on TRT and you can't even tell. They didnt change at all.
Some people are hyper responders to T.
Whats your test levels at 180mg/week?
Your friends may of had test levels close to that amount natty vs you had lower natty levels. Both of you shut down your test, but you replaced it with a relatively higher amount while they just replaced it.
Nah we were all around 400 natty, they are 700+ now on TRT.
the pic on the right is literally unmoggable