Was science wrong?

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If this was true, trannies wouldn't be breaking all their records.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Their response to this would be UHM ACKSHUALLY TRANSWOMEN ARE JUST WOMEN.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Vice
      I heard buzzfeed has lost a ton of revenue, can't be any different than this shit

      This shit seems trivial in a vacuum but when you zoom out and view it holistically, we have a serious communist problem.

      Media has two purposes.

      >1) To manufacture consensus
      >2) To engage
      This piece is of the latter. They don't believe a fucking word they're saying, they just want you to click the link. Oh the headline made you angry? Better click the link and see just how SILLY these journalists are!

      Wise

      Lets change all sports to weight classes only .... we will see who is better at sports pretty quick

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Already exists, most major sports leagues don't have any rules that prevents female players from participating.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yep women can play in the NFL, MLB, NHL and surprising the NBA. They are all legally gender neutral leagues

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they aren't?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are you asking a question?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >All these "fbbp" replies

        This hasn't happened yet, lmao.

        https://nordiclifting.com/blogs/fitness/transgender-broke-weightlifting-records-by-winning-2-medals-in-iwf
        https://abc3340.com/news/nation-world/trans-swimmer-breaks-pool-record-during-win-at-ivy-league-championships-university-pennsylvania-ncaa-transgender-athlete-lia-thomas-freestyle-swimmer-upenn-lgbtq-usa-policy-rule
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/us-students-and-parents-outraged-after-transgender-teen-sprinter-breaks-record/DVODNJX73JZ5FNCYJO53DDYVP4/

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So you're saying that women are breaking records set by other women?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >YWNBAW

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sorry can't hear you, I'm destroying feminism from the inside.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If that's your reason to go trans, then I salute you, brot- I mean, sister.
            Still, kys.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Thanks for respecting my pronouns

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bravest post on IST right now

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >sha la la la la la you’re a fag
        >you’re just a man in drag
        >you’ll never be a girl (no no)
        >sha la la la la la
        >why oh why
        >your chromosomes don’t lie
        >you’ll never be a girl

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Obviously women are stronger, but this “trannies breaking all the records” thing simply hasn’t happened yet.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >All these "fbbp" replies

        This hasn't happened yet, lmao.

        Only because there aren’t enough trannies, yet.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My first thought was that this would be to do with the definition of women including males.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >All these "fbbp" replies

      This hasn't happened yet, lmao.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hohoho

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *If this WERE true
      Hypothetical. Subjunctive mood.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Whats the difference can you elaborate
        both sound good to me in my head

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They both are perfectly fine, he's just being pedantic.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why aren’t born female trannies competing in male boxing?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      gay poster, best poster

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Vice
    I heard buzzfeed has lost a ton of revenue, can't be any different than this shit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's kept going by ~~*funding*~~ to spew out this nonsense

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This shit seems trivial in a vacuum but when you zoom out and view it holistically, we have a serious communist problem.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Media has two purposes.

    >1) To manufacture consensus
    >2) To engage
    This piece is of the latter. They don't believe a fucking word they're saying, they just want you to click the link. Oh the headline made you angry? Better click the link and see just how SILLY these journalists are!

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Probably a clickbait article like "yeah men are physically stronger but VAGINAS can give birth sooooo"

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Great so I guess the military standards should be equal for the sexes and men and women should compete together in the same sports.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://boysvswomen.com/#/

    /thread

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Damn, devastating

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ooofff. Yeah that def shows a huge difference. Womens best in the world vs high school boys. It gets even crazier when you compare mens olympic records to women.
      Anyhoo, I wish I was a teenage thot. I have severe pussy envy and women jealousy. At least I was born a good looking guy. I couldn’t imagine being horrid looking and having vagina envy, that would be torture. At least I can still fuck women.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're an autogynephile

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Makes sense. I know I am not trans as I am very masculine and will not transition. I’d make a horrid woman as I am a mesomorph, 5’10” @ 184, square cut jaw.
          But yeah, wish I could wear cute little dresses and skirts outside the bedroom. Pussy envy is crazy, lol.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Hans get the gas

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >top adult women in the world wouldn't even qualify to compete at the level of high schoolers
      Goddamn

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Reminder karsten braasch (rank 203) beat both williams sister back to back while intentionally playing badly and have spent the morning drinking and playing golf.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Tennis isn't even a sport where men have a big physical advantage since it's mostly about technique/strategy and a little bit of cardio. Could you imagine the 203-ranked male wrestler against a female world champion? Or a semipro men's rugby team playing a match against the best women's rugby team in the world? Even having that matchup would be dangerous for the women.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Is football the only sport where there is no professional women's league?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What football? There is professional women's rugby and soccer. It's just no one cares about either.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No I mean American Football. As far as I'm aware there is no real women's team at all.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh dunno shit about handegg aside fr the fact that they're only on the field for 3 mins before they swap teams for some reason. Seems retarded

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is football the only sport where there is no professional women's league?

                Most motorsports are gender neutral and typically end up male dominated.

                Certain gymnastics divisions are male / female only. For example women don't do the rings nor the parallel bars, while men don't do the bouncy floor thing or the uneven bars.

                There is no professional women's sumo wrestling division.

                I'm sure there are some other niche sports out there.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Men do do "the bouncy floor thing". It's called floor. The alternate apparatus for women are just cope because they're incapable of being competitive on those apparatus.

                Motocross is super upper body intensive too. I would say the same is true of F1 in terms of withstanding g force in turns. Also women can't drive so

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh damn I didn't realize men did the floor competition. Thanks for fixing that.

                And yeah all racing is brutal on the body, with F1 in particular for exceeding lateral forces of 3Gs at the high speed circuits.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >professional women's sumo wrestling division.
                Imagine the smell

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Boston and Minnesota are playing the women's championship right now

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You have no idea what you're talking about.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Fastest officially recogised serve for men is 157.2mph (263kmh)
            Fastest officially recognised serve for women is 136.7mph (220kmh)

            A 20mph difference is pretty fucking significant. To put it in perspective that's roughly the difference between a school zone and freeway speed limit here.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I agree with your fundamental point but comparing outliers is generally a poor way to argue it

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Athletes by their nature are outliers

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So there is one event where olympic women can beat high school boys. This tracks with what I've heard about extreme endurance events, that women can actually compete with men, i.e. that when you remove strength, speed, and agility from the equation and get down to pure endurance they have a chance.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fucking BRVTAL

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    let me guess:
    >according to bodyweight to strength ratio women are somewhat close to men in lower-body centric lifts up till an advanced lifter level

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The open weight (100kg+) women's squat record in ausfailia is 5kg less than the 63kg men's squat record so even that's demonstrably bullshit.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To view an outlier as representative of a group as a whole is just one of the many ways they are destroying science. The vice article even proposes a "new scientific model" - fucking huh?
        Looking at averages instead of one outlier (who is probably built like a man anyway), you get a much better picture that women are, in fact, the weaker sex.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >up till an advanced lifter level
        read

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Untrained/novice for 80kg man

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Untrained/novice for 80kg woman

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >OHP
            >Empty bar
            >One rep max
            Holy shit is this real girls are actually that weak that's so fucking hot

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              lmao when I first started going to the gym I was going with these two really strong lads who would do a lot of heavy sets on OHP. The first time, I started with 0.25plate on each side but once we were a few sets in and I was straining to do the empty bar. They took their weight off when it was my turn and just put the clips on lol.
              >tfw when you can't finish your last set of >lmao1clip

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Women are extremely weak.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Read
          No. Men are stronger way before advanced lifter level. Even at novice they dominate every weight class.
          I've seen a 40kg midget squat 2.5pl8 for reps.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No to quote:
      > Women are biologically better survivors from the moment they're born. They have stronger immune systems and are protected from certain genetic conditions that affect only men, explaining partly why women live so much longer.

      Honestly it is so funny how liberals act like this that you can’t acknowledge a bad thing about the protected class like black IQ(I’m a black person btw). A non-racist will see that and quote if it is true dispassionately but acknowledge it if it is true with the understanding that it doesn’t mean blacks are any lesser for being less intelligent

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >On average
        Avoid self-deprecation at all costs brother

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They have stronger immune systems and are protected from certain genetic conditions that affect only men
        On the flipside they're also more likely to have autoimmune disorders than men because of this.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >(I’m a black person btw)
        Post body king. Make the LULZ tourists angry

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm a racist and even I aknowledge that being genetically different or even inferior in some way doesn't make people worth less. Being a cunt does.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I’m a black person btw

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >certain genetic conditions that affect only men
        women can get testicular cancer too, bigots.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They have stronger immune systems
        No they fucking don't lmao, women are sick at least twice as much as men
        >and are protected from certain genetic conditions that affect only men,
        That is true, because they have a backup of all their genes. The X chromosome contains around 900 genes and women have a spare, so 1,800 genes in total. The Y chromosome only contains 60 and overwrites the X, so we have just under 1,000 genes and if a male attribute is damaged then the female X takes over.
        >explaining partly why women live so much longer.
        Maybe, but hundreds of millions of men dying in WW2 is still the largest reason for longer average female lifespan, and that won't change until that generation dies. The overwhelming majority of over 80s are women because so many men died in wars, dragging the average male life expectancy down.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Maybe, but hundreds of millions of men dying in WW2 is still the largest reason for longer average female lifespan, and that won't change until that generation dies. The overwhelming majority of over 80s are women because so many men died in wars, dragging the average male life expectancy down.
          Man the gap exists even in countries that didn't partecipate in ww2. Men are almost exclusively emoployed in pretty much every job with negative effect on one's long term health, I dare say that's more of a factor in the longevity gap than fucking ww2 in 2022.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Article conflates endurance and immune system? and physical strength. Nonsense.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >https://www.vice.com/en/article/vbgkpx/inferior-angela-saini-book-interview

    >Central to Saini's argument is that the strength—bodily and intellectually—of women has been consistently undervalued by scientists. "Women also have strength, and thinking about women as the weaker sex is wrong," she says. "Women are biologically better survivors from the moment they're born. They have stronger immune systems and are protected from certain genetic conditions that affect only men, explaining partly why women live so much longer."
    >Saini becomes passionate as she talks about how the idea of men as hunter-gatherers, undertaking the bulk of physical exertion, and women as domestic caregivers, is just that—an idea, a social construct we've imposed on ourselves. But the reality, both historically and in developing countries around the world, is very different.
    >"Women all over the world work as hard as men. Most women do really hard, back-breaking labor, every single day," Saini argues. "I'm from India, and when you travel back there you see women are doing the exact same amount of labor, if not more, that men are doing. That's a fact of history that goes back thousands of years ago, before patriarchy existed."
    >Ultimately, Saini's ambition is no less than a new scientific model, one that recognizes scientists are fallible and as subject to human prejudice as any other discipline. Things are already changing, she says.
    >"There's a new story being written, and as women have entered sciences and our society has become a lot more enlightened, we're getting a very different portrait," she explains. "I want women to see that equality is not just a political ideal. We are just as biologically capable."

    it's nothing. platitudes.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Modern journalism and science is misconstrued information presented to generate clicks from cunts that don't bother to read anything but the headlines

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >intellectually
      Hmmm, I wonder if there is a single woman in the top 100 chess grandmasters

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Judit polgar wiped the floor with Magnus chudsen literally this week

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >a blitz game in the park
          Lmao. Post her score in classical against Magnus, Kasparov and Kramnik

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Saini's ambition is no less than a new scientific model, one that recognizes scientists are fallible and as subject to human prejudice as any other discipline
      Its funny, she's right about that point, but she doesn't apply that same argument to her own prejudices and ideology.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        maximum solipsism

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The old scientific model is supposed to do this as well by consideration of null hypothesis and reproducibility of research. Not that it functions that well anyhow

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          As well as meta-analysis and funnel plots. This smells of an excuse to remove standards so politically connected brown and/or female incompetents can get into prestigious journals and wear them as a skinsuit as they run them into the ground (not that prestigious journals were ever *that* great at filtering bullshit, but the mediocre brown women will certainly do worse).

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Put Saini in a ring with me and see who gets out. I have minimal fighting experience and my right arm is kinda useless rn because of a surgery. She can even have a baseball bat.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >linking the article to generate clicks from IST
      ~~*you*~~ need to leave

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ultimately, Saini's ambition is no less than a new scientific model, one that recognizes scientists are fallible and as subject to human prejudice as any other discipline
      I wonder if she applies the same principle to vaccine studies?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >obscuring physical strength realities confirmed by bell curves to peddle feelgood red herrings
      We don't deserve the scientific method.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Saini's ambition is no less than a new scientific model, one that recognizes scientists are fallible and as subject to human prejudice as any other discipline
      Its funny, she's right about that point, but she doesn't apply that same argument to her own prejudices and ideology.

      Just a dumb deconstruction of the concept of strength. The image that the article starts with makes you think that it is about physical strength but in the article itself she makes up a new definition of strength that has little to do with muscle and working out.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So that bitch CAN take the trash out after all

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm from India, and when you travel back there you see women are doing the exact same amount of labor, if not more, that men are doing
      i saw women working on building sites in china, carrying a hod of bricks, if that it what the thing is called. but they are not common and it's probably not a desired job for a woman and only done due to poverty and necessity. but it would be silly to suggest the few dozen women i saw carrying 100lbs of bricks means that the average woman is as physically strong as the average man.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If his point is that women have excellent super endurance, hes right.

      Women are often better ultra marathon runners and ultra distance cyclists than men. They are much much better ultra endurance swimmers probably due to extra fat.

      Women will never beat men in the regular marathon, triathlon, speed climbing, or any other typical endurance or strength sport.

      But when the endurance activity is 24hr+ women start to match or exceed men.

      Maybe it's something to do with evolutionary adaptation for spending hours in labor?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Women are often better ultra marathon runners and ultra distance cyclists than men.
        How often is "often" in this instance? Because of it's less than 50% of the time, then men are still stronger. Do women hold more records in these competitions than men do, something like that? Are there objective data showing that when have a general advantage in those activities?
        The thing about swimming is really interesting though I'd never thought about the body fat angle

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The thing about swimming is really interesting though I'd never thought about the body fat angle
          pic is one of the best european open water extreme swimmers

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >intellectually
      Men are over represented at both extremes of the IQ spectrum to include being the smartest
      >stronger immune systems
      This is true, but ironically its also the reason that women have more autoimmune diseases. Women's immune systems are hyperactive to the point where its attack their own bodies. Double ironic is that pregnancy suppresses the woman's immune system and the theory is that because women are having less pregnancies they're actually having more autoimmune disorders
      >why women live so much longer
      The male body is subject to more physical stress through being both larger and performing more physical work. Its like saying that an engine operating at moderate RPMs lasts longer than one that's constantly getting redlined...
      >Women all over the world work as hard as men. Most women do really hard, back-breaking labor, every single day
      Great, so why are men so over represented in all the "icky jobs". Where are the all the women fighting to be garbage collectors?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >scientists can be wrong
      white supremacist detected

      >certain genetic conditions that affect only men
      women can get testicular cancer too, bigots.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >~~*science*~~™

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i wish more people thought this way so at some point we got mixed sports so i can watch women lose in every sport forever

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All journalists should be killed on sight
    Not in minecraft but in real life

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed.
      And I have a female cousin that is a journalist. She will fiercely defend the most inane shit some media outlet spews in order to preserve the "mainstream journalism is good journalism" narrative.
      She wouldn't be missed.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pro women's hockey teams peak versus junior teams - like basically elite high school

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't believe I seriously have to check whether this is real or a fake one made for parody. I suspect it's both real and fake - let me explain...

    It's probably real in that they probably posted this judging by the responses to this thread. However it's probably fake in that they are baiting to get a reaction. They know it's an absurd thing to say, so they're pushing buttons. They get their clicks, they get their virtue signalling, and so on.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hou Yifan is the best woman and ranked 101, however has been as high as 55.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So what you're saying is there isn't one (1) female in the top 100 players

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        thats sexist somebody should do something about that

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So what you're saying is there isn't one (1) female in the top 100 players

      correct me if im wrong but dont female chess players literally get a free ratings boost?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah you're wrong, they use the same rating system as men. they do have lower ELO requirements for women-specific titles though (Woman Grandmaster/etc).

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know the elo system very well, but doesn't having women only tournaments boost their rating?

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't believe scientists, got it.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If that's true, why in Olympics men have much better results? Be it weight lifting, sprinting, marathon running etc
    How did they debunked this?

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Science

    I stopped reading right there.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is like hearing someone say "I could do that if I tried" and they never bother trying it ever, but speaking for the entire female gender. 25 years ago, such a ridiculous assertion would get you fired from your job as a writer, so all those useless egotistical writers conglomerated into shitpiece editorials like Vice media, and influenced the entirety of media to sink to new lows. On the other hand, I wonder how many retarded women read this and got crushed by a barbell.. This is conflicting as I only seek truth, and yet love seeing stupid people get hurt/die.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >broadly dot vice
    >broadly
    It's a glorified opinion piece.
    They claim that scientists are sexist for acknowledging innate and measurable biological differences between the sexes. Literally less than nothing.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, praise the God Emperor of Mankind for his wisdom.

    Only in death does duty end.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How come there's these guys but also normal humans as separate factions? They even both worship the emporer so why fight?

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All women should be beaten down hard, both physically as well as mentally.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the only way to destroy them is ignoring them and acting masculine irl as if globohomo didnt brainwash the normalfags for the last few decades. just act like a man from 30 years ago and dgaf

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ProTip: When shit-tier leftist sites use the word science, you can be completely assured it is 100% bullshit.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >wow I'm wamiz I am so strong by body weight
    >one hit rag dolls her across the room through the wall shattering all her bones
    ok then why can't you punch women then if they're so strong?

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women on average have 40% less upper body strength because they have massive fat deposits where you would have pecs instead. That is just the shape of our body not even accounting for differences in testosterone to allow for significantly more muscle building. Women can have maybe somewhat comparable leg strength MAYBE but not even close overall.

    I don't think anyone actually believes this

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Women on average have 40% less upper body strength
      50% actually, approx 65% in the lower body

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >women are weaker than men

    we'll see about that

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Please have mercy sir

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sciooence has also made "us" -mistakenly- believe that a strain of the common cold with a mortality rate of like 0.012% was going to kill us all unless we put on cuck muzzles in universities and at work.

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