Recently started doing weighted dips in place of bench press and I am astounded by how much better of an exercise it is. Something about dips just feels so damn good. The way they stretch my chest and shoulders while also overloading my triceps leaves me feeling sore throughout my entire upper body. Since incorporating dips into my routine a few months ago, I've managed to finally break through my bench press and OHP plateau. I've also noticed my triceps are getting a lot bigger.
What is it about weighted dips that makes them such an intense exercise, especially in comparison to the barbell bench press? Is it the heavy stretch on the chest and shoulders at a different angle? Is it the increased tension on the triceps? Is it having to use your traps to stabilize your shoulders? Is it because you are forced to move your torso through space? What exactly is it about the weighted dip that makes it so great?
inb4 "hurrr bad for your shoulders" just use proper form bro
Bumping with some heavy weighted dips videos
My best lift for this has been 180lbs for 2 reps.
something about this makes me feel really uncomfortable. like hes one wrong move away from snap city
most people don't isolate their triceps for strength. people will throw in a few tricep accessories like pushdowns but with a hypertrophic focus and call it a day. i treat weighted dips like i would any other strength movement and rotate between schemes like 5x5, 3x5, ramping to a 3x3, whatever. it's no wonder that your bench and OHP progress when you address the weakpoints in your triceps and front delts. i think the big component people overlook with dips is that they have a deceptively large range of motion with lots of eccentric control/constant tension which can be novel stimuli for certain types of lifters/experience ranges.
i'm sure it's no coincidence that my bench was at it's strongest when my weighted dip was as well. people should be doing more dips (and pullups) than they do.
>5x5, 3x5, ramping to a 3x3
Have you had any pain working in the lower rep range? In the past, I would do weighted dips for heavy sets of 6 and even those felt excessive. I prefer to do dips in an 8-10 rep range.
>elbows started getting crazy tendonitis pain doing them
That's strange. I've never had any elbow pain with weighted dips. I tend to get elbow pain when I over do it on chin ups.
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I enjoy weighted dips and cg bench press as great compounds for triceps, but the dips always felt mostly shoulder and chest -focused. One thing I've tried recently are Impossible Dips, which is often more of a calisthenics exercise that allows you to train for muscle ups (when you transition from the pullup to dips in a muscle-up, you are in a VERY difficult dips position that you generally have to train independently first). I highly recommend the impossible dip as an unweighted way to destroy the triceps... keep your upper arm perfectly upright or even angled back, and lean back your torso while sticking your legs out in front of you. I'm sure you can find a guide online. If you're strong with normal dips and bench, you can probably bust out at least a few of these right off the bat
>impossible dips
Interesting. May have to give these a try. Looks like a great tricep exercise.
God bless you anon
Loved doing weighted dips but one of my elbows started getting crazy tendonitis pain doing them, I figured it out it was that after eliminating lifts and the pain didn’t go away until I stopped weighted dips, once I removed weighted dips my elbow tendonitis went away
Sucks because I loved doing them. I had weighted dips, weighted chin-ups and weighted walking lunges as my 3 primary goto full body workout covering a push, pull and legs as a core starter lifts in my routine.
Still do the weighted chins and weighted walking lunges but no more weighted dips.
I started doing weighted dips like 3 weeks ago, 10 rep sets, but i stalled on weight now, im kind of dyel and do fullbody 3x/week in addition to martial arts. Should i deload, try lower rep heavy sets? Just keep pushing through? I feel like the intensity of this exercise can frick you up with bad form.
Holy shit you fricking twink just man up and try it yourself. Are you so fricking pathetic that you're scared to do a set of 8?
Im asking how to get through the stall moron, not whether i should
Just do it you moron. Nothing scary about going a little bit heavier. Go for heavier sets of 6-8 reps. Your twink shoulders should be able to handle the weight.
I do skullcrushers for 3*3 then work up to a 1RM.
Dips stay in the 8-15 rep range where they belong
Enjoy tennis elbow
Not the other anon but I unironically ended up with this in my right elbow...what do I do?
Your brains is too good at cheating, like no one moves the bar perfectly straight or keeps back perfectly straight, etc.
It is much harder to cheat on dips or pull-ups, unless you’re noticeably swinging your body to get momentum.
It is far too easy to start arching the back on bench press to bring your chest to the bar, or flare the elbows to move weight off chest and onto shoulder
I like ring dips, the extra stabilizer and balance focus is good for me
Sounds pretty gay tbh. Parallel bar dips are better. "Muh stabilizers" is such a meme.
Thinking about running 531/BBB with dips instead of bench, trying to figure how I would program it, obv trying to work off of a calculated 1RM for weighted dips would be extremely dumb
Try to find my 5RM and get my training max from that maybe?
This is exactly what you're looking for:
https://www.jimwendler.com/blogs/jimwendler-com/programming-weighted-chins-and-dips
You could also check out the BBB Beefcake template, it has dips as part of the program.
Thank you fren, have a rare apu
do you have to BYOB or does the gym have belts?
Most gyms I’ve been to do not have a dip belt. My college gym did, but the commercial gym I go to now does not. I choose to do dips in my apartment because I have a power tower, but if I did dips at the gym then I would bring my own dip belt.
What weight should I start with? 5kg? 10kg?
Anyone?
My first dip in each set always feel shaky and weak. The 2nd and the rest are okay. Any idea why's that? I do set my shoulders before the first dip, so it's not like I'm doing it with a different form to the rest.
You're loading your muscles, it's normal
*tips fedora*
I get sharp pain in my shoulders when doing even one unweighted. Watched plenty of videos on form. Would certainly do these if they were painless.
same
How to not get pain in shoulders?
You're not retracting the scapulas. You need to have your back engaged during ANY pressing movements, including dips, if you don't want your shoulders to get fricked. Lock your shoulders back and down and don't let them leave that position. People often make a mistake of "rolling" the shoulders forward as part of the pressing movement when really the shoulders should be held back by scapular retraction. The biggest redpill in lifting is having your scaps retracted WHENEVER you do an upper body lift--- OHP, bench, dips, etc
>People often make a mistake of "rolling" the shoulders forward as part of the pressing movement when really the shoulders should be held back by scapular retraction.
I don't know about dips, but all the biggest calisthenics channels say that you should protact your shoulders at the top of the push up to build protaction strenght.
you can build protraction strength in a more controlled safe setting by doing scap pushups or scap BB presses on a flat bench. Protraction in a setting where the shoulder stabilization is very weak (because of the nature of the exercise and your body position) make you very vulnerable to tearing your rotator cuff or impingement. When people feel pain during dips or presses where they roll their shoulders forward, it is likely impingement and is very damaging over time. Don't protract on dips, don't impinge
>whole body exercise
>works push muscles better than bench
>alpha exercise, body is raised with every rep
vs
>lift made popular only for the large numbers you can put on it as well as homosexuals liking the physique it produces
>minimal activation in the rest of the body
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>weighted dips
wrong image
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They're cool, just started doing them and I love controlling the eccentric on these. I'm a bit tall tho, so the forward lean aspect kinda barely works. It's VERY triceps dominant and I don't really feel my chest in the movement. Still sure it'll at least be a great tricep builder tho
I like dips both weighted and BW. As a lanklet it’s the only chest exercise I’m good at. My bench is lagging but my chest looks pretty good still.
Post body
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I did +25kg yesterday 8 reps @82kg bw. Dippin' feels so alpha
Why do my clavicles hurt when doing dips?
Your range of motion is really not there yet if you want to hit your triceps and see some real growth. And you obviously need to ask your gym to turn up the AC--- based on how much you're sweating, it looks like it was so hot you had to take off your top, which really reflects unsafe lifting conditions
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I use a backpack to do weighted dips, are there consequences to this or is it okay as long as I keep good form?
Don't put the load on your back ffs. Get a belt or put the backpack on your front. Or send a postcard from snap city
You should never go below parallel on a dip, like the moron in OP's pic is doing.
post body
Your turn.
you can make lower than parallel work if you are diligent about warming up your scaps to move, doing deep chest opening exercises, and doing shoulder mobility work all as part of your daily routine. If you retract the scaps with solid strength, your shoulders are pretty resistant to injury even in that position. There is also a good case to be made to train strength and mobility in compromised positions in order to avoid injury, and having your shoulders hyperretracted is one of those positions.
Here was me hitting 2.5pl8 a few months back
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PfTvAepS68g
i have long arms and these are amazing for your (bottom) chest. too bad my chest overpowers my arms and shoulders.
I stopped benching for a year because i got tired of sticking at 255. I didn't even consider it as a workaround and started dipping intuitively. I worked up to 88lbs (KB) for sets of 12-15. One day I got a wild hair on my ass and decided to bench at the END of a shoulder/back workout. I worked up to 315 for a set of 5, got kind of freaked out and ended my workout.
Did I damage my sternum? Earlier this week I was doing dips and I heard a loud crack from my sternum and stopped. Later that night I somehow caused the entire thing to pop while doing something nonphysical. Also when I woke up the next morning I got 2 pack abs out of nowhere and my bf% is decently high at a minimum 15% probably somewhere around 20%, maybe a coincidence since I've only been doing calisthenics for a couple months but idk if I tore something. Nothing painful but it is still sore.
Dips are great
Old time oly lifters dipped heavy weight to blow up their triceps to get a stronger OHP
Frick dips, i swear i usde perfect form, do that scapula thing and still get shoulder pain, just frick them
>What is it about weighted dips that makes them such an intense exercise, especially in comparison to the barbell bench press
Simple, it's weighted calisthenics and that enough is alone to make them superior then any free weight exercise. I still like OHP and Bicep curls tho also leg extensions are nice