i mostly agree with pic related but restaurant work is actually difficult. servers make pretty good money and many of the cooks have experience and are on salary. id only consider hosts and busboys to be wagie level.
Yeah it really depends on the restaurant. I would say anything with a dedicated school is a real job. >I.e. trade school, culinary school, apprenticeships, etc.
The work is interesting and the culture at my bank is fricking sweet. But yeah, I've averaged 87hrs a week. Also the pay is really nice, $55/hr with $80/hr overtime. Do the math how much I've made 8 weeks in...
Software dev here, I don't make much but I WFH, and have a lot of freedom on when to actually work as long as I get shit done. It's the perfect IST job especially if you have a home gym or do calisthenics.
I make $58k as a software dev. job is super comfy and low-stress plus I like my team so I have no plans to leave. I do about 5-15 hours of actual work each week.
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Nope, but I'm speeding through an online cs degree (hectic course load, tested out of some courses, and transferred some credits) now so I should have a cs bachelors by the time I quit.
sitting jobs are a good way to have a lifetime of obesity and back problems
Yeah if youre a moron lol. Just dont eat like a fat pig and take breaks from sitting, exercise back, and youll be fine.
>thinks 20 mins of ineffective stretching fixes sitting for 10+ hours a day, 7 days a week, for the rest of his life >thinks he will actually keep up an active lifestyle on top of sitting 50+ hours a week >thinks buying a standing desk will magically solve the problem even though standing in place is just as bad for your body >thinks he wont just sit most of the time even with a standing desk >thinks his testosterone wont lower as his mitochondria wont shorten
enjoy your PT appointments and expensive ergonomic chairs that just make your joint deterioration easier to deal with
cant wait to hear about your chiropractor visits and that new product your bought to totally solve your back pain and arthritis from typing all day
Software dev here, I don't make much but I WFH, and have a lot of freedom on when to actually work as long as I get shit done. It's the perfect IST job especially if you have a home gym or do calisthenics.
>$75k offer
Quite a bit less, yes first job at a startup. It's very comfy other than that and I don't have to do much work, only like 8 hours of actual work a week max. Other thing is that the work I do in my job is not something you'd have a junior do. Atleast it'll make my resume look better? Planning on staying for a total of about a year and a half before trying to get a higher paying position where I'll actually have to work.
Wtf I’ve been a developer for 5 years and I’ve never had to know any of these
It's for system design. Are you a senior dev yet? They even ask questions about it in junior dev interviews sometimes.
>at a startup
Oh i see. Im going to toot my own horn here but I landed a job at a big company on my first interview and this is my first actual real job. I was so surprised cause so many people apply here every year and this company hires MAYBE 1 person
I'm in the exact same position anon. Just graduated and stayed at the startup company I was interning at. I'm only making $65k/year (Midwest) but it's comfy and I'll probably stay until the new year.
I make $58k as a software dev. job is super comfy and low-stress plus I like my team so I have no plans to leave. I do about 5-15 hours of actual work each week.
Same. I could be making more but my team is great and I don’t work much. I make $110k +$20k-$30k a year in bonuses though. Recent grad w/ masters.
The companies are INSANELY desparate for new hires rn. I’m sure you could get more $$$ but I def feel the not wanting to leave a good setup. A lot of companies suck. CO, USA
Also this job is amazing for IST I have so much time to rest and workout plus plenty of $$$.
>I do about 5-15 hours of actual work each week >$58k
That honestly seems a lot nicer as a junior dev. Im getting 75k but im literally working 12 hours a day to attend meetings which are 4 hours, go over business logic, go over code, and studying literally everything to get myself ready to start contributing to the project. Oh and I work 6 days a week, I just dont tell anyone i work sunday.
My plan is to learn as much as I can but act stupid so that they dont expect much work from me but enough so that they see potential and not want to fire me
Basically any high level knowledge based job where you are paid for your 'expertise' instead of your time. If it's relatively low stress that's also a bonus. It gives you enough time in the day to lift without a time crunch, and you benefit from not having the ultimate gains goblin cortisol pumping through your veins at all hours.
Blue Collar/Labour jobs can be fit. Assuming it's not incredibly taxing - you will be in zone 2 cardio all day. Couple this with a relatively clean diet and a couple lifting sessions per week = a very easy and sustainable way to get and remain shredded.
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Nope, but I'm speeding through an online cs degree (hectic course load, tested out of some courses, and transferred some credits) now so I should have a cs bachelors by the time I quit.
Any advice on careers? My cousin said that ai and machine learning is huge and although I agree, I personally think that the maths is enough to rape my brain. Would it be worth it to major in ai or just stick to webdev and shit? >1st year zoomer
Also a SWE and just graduated, I make good money and am fully WFH. It rocks but I would say the same for almost all WFH jobs, generally anything in tech is pretty great for work life balance, especially if it's WFH. I literally couldn't ask for a better job.
However, it seems people are pouring into the profession so I'm debating picking up a trade since literally nobody is doing them anymore and it's very straight forward to start a business doing it. My gf and I needed someone to do drywall and there's virtually nobody locally available. I'm expecting the trades to continue to die off even more with all of the shilling CS nerds do on tiktok and youtube and shit.
Any advice on careers? My cousin said that ai and machine learning is huge and although I agree, I personally think that the maths is enough to rape my brain. Would it be worth it to major in ai or just stick to webdev and shit? >1st year zoomer
Not him but it doesn't mater which specialization you pick, both end up being difficult for different reasons. Do what you're interested in. Although I'm pretty sure ML will pay you more.
>So dehumanize the workers amirite. They not working class dey subhuman. Dats y me win duh infowar
The quickest way to tell if you are subhuman is if you worry about being dehumanized
I am Australian so shift times aren’t as long. I work three or four night shifts a week and bring home 3-4K a fortnight. Super cruisy I just chill all night reading or whatever. Don’t have to worry about hurting my back or getting DVT or anything gay like that.
I'm just a CAD Drafter, 12 years, no education. Making around €3600 a month sitting on my ass doing simple 2D drafts that take me 5min but pay for an hour.
i am studying electrical engineering. honestly you find the least IST people here.. pretty much just asians and PC gaming autists. I was lucky to be a secret autist where people think im normal and cool in society because I took advice from IST on maxxing social/physical gains.
But it beats being a fricking manual laborer, that shit was ass.. did it for8 years total. Super IST in the sense its masculine and hard, but you basically just get fat because you drink alot of alcohol and hang out with ex cons or losers.
g4p
i mostly agree with pic related but restaurant work is actually difficult. servers make pretty good money and many of the cooks have experience and are on salary. id only consider hosts and busboys to be wagie level.
You didn't notice the giant bait in the bottom left corner?
Everything should be on left, landlord should be on right
Yeah it really depends on the restaurant. I would say anything with a dedicated school is a real job.
>I.e. trade school, culinary school, apprenticeships, etc.
Difficult ≠ productive
> my job is hard it must be important
if he is getting payed then his job is important, otherwise he wouldnt be paid for it
I make over $40/hour waiting tables. A lot is unreported cash too. That said, there's no room for upward mobility
Investment Banking
Consulting
Big4
You'll have no time for the gym anymore though
Big4 is an absolute meme
Its a good stepping stone
>You'll have no time for the gym anymore though
How is that IST approved?
I'm currently doing my summer internship at a BB within IB in San Francisco.
Based. It's hell, isnt it.
The work is interesting and the culture at my bank is fricking sweet. But yeah, I've averaged 87hrs a week. Also the pay is really nice, $55/hr with $80/hr overtime. Do the math how much I've made 8 weeks in...
sitting jobs are a good way to have a lifetime of obesity and back problems
Yeah if youre a moron lol. Just dont eat like a fat pig and take breaks from sitting, exercise back, and youll be fine.
Standing jobs are also the same except you add knee problems into the mix
Ever heard of stretching anon?
Standing desks are ubiquitous now in software dev jobs
Yea my office started installing these for everyone.
>thinks 20 mins of ineffective stretching fixes sitting for 10+ hours a day, 7 days a week, for the rest of his life
>thinks he will actually keep up an active lifestyle on top of sitting 50+ hours a week
>thinks buying a standing desk will magically solve the problem even though standing in place is just as bad for your body
>thinks he wont just sit most of the time even with a standing desk
>thinks his testosterone wont lower as his mitochondria wont shorten
enjoy your PT appointments and expensive ergonomic chairs that just make your joint deterioration easier to deal with
cant wait to hear about your chiropractor visits and that new product your bought to totally solve your back pain and arthritis from typing all day
Software dev here, I don't make much but I WFH, and have a lot of freedom on when to actually work as long as I get shit done. It's the perfect IST job especially if you have a home gym or do calisthenics.
>I don't make much
How much do you make? Curious. I just got hired as junior level developer and they gave me $75k offer
>$75k offer
Quite a bit less, yes first job at a startup. It's very comfy other than that and I don't have to do much work, only like 8 hours of actual work a week max. Other thing is that the work I do in my job is not something you'd have a junior do. Atleast it'll make my resume look better? Planning on staying for a total of about a year and a half before trying to get a higher paying position where I'll actually have to work.
It's for system design. Are you a senior dev yet? They even ask questions about it in junior dev interviews sometimes.
>system design
Also you've definitely seen consistent hashing and leaky bucket before.
Yes I’m senior by title. Literally never had to use or know these. I make scientific/engineering software along the lines of ansys
>at a startup
Oh i see. Im going to toot my own horn here but I landed a job at a big company on my first interview and this is my first actual real job. I was so surprised cause so many people apply here every year and this company hires MAYBE 1 person
I'm in the exact same position anon. Just graduated and stayed at the startup company I was interning at. I'm only making $65k/year (Midwest) but it's comfy and I'll probably stay until the new year.
>Software dev
>I don't make much
Did you just graduate or
I make $58k as a software dev. job is super comfy and low-stress plus I like my team so I have no plans to leave. I do about 5-15 hours of actual work each week.
Same. I could be making more but my team is great and I don’t work much. I make $110k +$20k-$30k a year in bonuses though. Recent grad w/ masters.
The companies are INSANELY desparate for new hires rn. I’m sure you could get more $$$ but I def feel the not wanting to leave a good setup. A lot of companies suck. CO, USA
Also this job is amazing for IST I have so much time to rest and workout plus plenty of $$$.
>I do about 5-15 hours of actual work each week
>$58k
That honestly seems a lot nicer as a junior dev. Im getting 75k but im literally working 12 hours a day to attend meetings which are 4 hours, go over business logic, go over code, and studying literally everything to get myself ready to start contributing to the project. Oh and I work 6 days a week, I just dont tell anyone i work sunday.
My plan is to learn as much as I can but act stupid so that they dont expect much work from me but enough so that they see potential and not want to fire me
Wtf I’ve been a developer for 5 years and I’ve never had to know any of these
This.
Basically any high level knowledge based job where you are paid for your 'expertise' instead of your time. If it's relatively low stress that's also a bonus. It gives you enough time in the day to lift without a time crunch, and you benefit from not having the ultimate gains goblin cortisol pumping through your veins at all hours.
Blue Collar/Labour jobs can be fit. Assuming it's not incredibly taxing - you will be in zone 2 cardio all day. Couple this with a relatively clean diet and a couple lifting sessions per week = a very easy and sustainable way to get and remain shredded.
cs graduate?
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Nope, but I'm speeding through an online cs degree (hectic course load, tested out of some courses, and transferred some credits) now so I should have a cs bachelors by the time I quit.
Any advice on careers? My cousin said that ai and machine learning is huge and although I agree, I personally think that the maths is enough to rape my brain. Would it be worth it to major in ai or just stick to webdev and shit?
>1st year zoomer
AI and ML/inference are hot but the eggheads on IST suggest that if you don't have a PhD in it, you won't get hired.
Smells like BS, but be aware.
Also a SWE and just graduated, I make good money and am fully WFH. It rocks but I would say the same for almost all WFH jobs, generally anything in tech is pretty great for work life balance, especially if it's WFH. I literally couldn't ask for a better job.
However, it seems people are pouring into the profession so I'm debating picking up a trade since literally nobody is doing them anymore and it's very straight forward to start a business doing it. My gf and I needed someone to do drywall and there's virtually nobody locally available. I'm expecting the trades to continue to die off even more with all of the shilling CS nerds do on tiktok and youtube and shit.
Not him but it doesn't mater which specialization you pick, both end up being difficult for different reasons. Do what you're interested in. Although I'm pretty sure ML will pay you more.
Landlords aren't working class though
Physician
I’m physician and it’s not fit at all lifestyle wise. Really hard to get healthy amount of sleep.
Welding
>landlords
baitsed
This pic is bait but it has a grain of truth. Our "service economy" is just a big circlejerk.
So dehumanize the workers amirite. They not working class dey subhuman. Dats y me win duh infowar
>So dehumanize the workers amirite. They not working class dey subhuman. Dats y me win duh infowar
The quickest way to tell if you are subhuman is if you worry about being dehumanized
Too big, too heavy, too rough to be called bait
Mental health nurse - honestly pretty cruisy, good cash with minimal effort. Lots of time for gym and hobbies. Comfortable pay, can’t complain.
tfw I fricked up and picked thoracic surgery
I should just finally change departments
you work 3 shifts as well?
I am Australian so shift times aren’t as long. I work three or four night shifts a week and bring home 3-4K a fortnight. Super cruisy I just chill all night reading or whatever. Don’t have to worry about hurting my back or getting DVT or anything gay like that.
catalytic converter and copper wire theft, decent cardio and keeps you sharp mentally.
I'm just a CAD Drafter, 12 years, no education. Making around €3600 a month sitting on my ass doing simple 2D drafts that take me 5min but pay for an hour.
how do i get into this
Graphic design is not CADD
>CAD, or computer-aided design and drafting (CADD), istechnology for design
>design
>landlords
quality bait, saved for later
i am studying electrical engineering. honestly you find the least IST people here.. pretty much just asians and PC gaming autists. I was lucky to be a secret autist where people think im normal and cool in society because I took advice from IST on maxxing social/physical gains.
But it beats being a fricking manual laborer, that shit was ass.. did it for8 years total. Super IST in the sense its masculine and hard, but you basically just get fat because you drink alot of alcohol and hang out with ex cons or losers.
>Landlords
(You)