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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    TRT can make you infertile. Hair loss as an added bonus. Do this maybe after you’ve had kids.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      OP here, don't care about having kids

      Hair loss and aging my face prematurely seems not fun. Does TRT ever make you more handsome?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you want to be more handsome lose weight. Most ugly people are just fat in a subtle way.
        Your facial structure is not going to change after puberty (not for the better anyway).

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          It will have an effect on body composition. Most people have more attractive faces when leaner.

          I thought it could negatively affect collagen, ergo causing you to age faster in the face or cause facial bloating

          also the one indian actor who got jacked, his entire face changed but im guessing that wasnt just trt

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            He had surgeries

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It will have an effect on body composition. Most people have more attractive faces when leaner.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        You don't consider your genetic material worthy of passing on?

        Are you not capable or not willing to raise offspring that would be a net benifit to society?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >net benifit to society
          you need to go back

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's based and there's no reason for you not to be on it if you're low test. This is 1 year on 200mg. It ascended me from incel to slayer.

      OP here, don't care about having kids

      Hair loss and aging my face prematurely seems not fun. Does TRT ever make you more handsome?

      Crabs in a bucket trying to gatekeep low T incels and anons from ascending into what society owes them: Being a High T male. Had 0 sides on it, even people on 500mg get 0 sides. Unless you start blasting like a moron with other compounds.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >took years off his life to lose some weight and look like a normal natty lifter
        LOL

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >thinking 200mg test will take years off ur life
          ngmi

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            cope now post hairline

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        This. I'm blasting 600mg/week and I'm also fine. Most people do NOT get sides, those that do, are just genetically predisposed to androgen sensitivity and get severe sides but that's only a minor part of roiders but since they're the ones getting sides you hear them talking about sides the most, basically a vocal minority because a person that doesn't get sides won't just walk around and announce to everybody that they started doing steroids and they do not get any side effects.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Also my hair, and yes I take creatine too.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            lol being bald is kinda like being gay, people invent all kinds of reasons that lead to it, but the single truth behind it is that you're born with the genes and that's it and there's absolutely nothing you can ever dream of doing about it

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Age? What did the men in your family look like at various ages?

            lol being bald is kinda like being gay, people invent all kinds of reasons that lead to it, but the single truth behind it is that you're born with the genes and that's it and there's absolutely nothing you can ever dream of doing about it

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Turnin 30 soon. Father had thick hair and thick beard at 41 before he died, never knew his father/grandpa on father's side, mom's father was full baldie since his 20s.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Frick me it really is just kinda a random luck of the draw thing isn’t it? So even hairlets can make hair chads, and vice versa. My hope is I inherited all the best genes for it, since I also got most of the best genes for everything else (height, iq, face).

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, it's all just random genes you inherit, I have hair but average height and no facial hair despite my dad being both tall and having nice beard.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                just use topical finasteride, i've been on it for a year with no side effects and my hair is fine.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm taking oral fin 1mg/day
                no sides that i've noticed. Hairloss came to a halt.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            You still look low T

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              cope, I was 1260ng/dl natty at 30 before hopping on gear

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/9k5KHX2.png

          Also my hair, and yes I take creatine too.

          https://i.imgur.com/v0W3ORq.jpg

          It's based and there's no reason for you not to be on it if you're low test. This is 1 year on 200mg. It ascended me from incel to slayer.

          [...]
          Crabs in a bucket trying to gatekeep low T incels and anons from ascending into what society owes them: Being a High T male. Had 0 sides on it, even people on 500mg get 0 sides. Unless you start blasting like a moron with other compounds.

          based

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        That was achievable natty, difficult but possible.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't usually say this but
        >roiding for this

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm on TRT, it's great, but now that I've found a woman I want to have kids with... I can't, and I'm scared of getting off.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >TRT can make you infertile
      holy based

      >Hair loss
      This is the main reason I'm scared of hopping on tbh

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      TRT keeps you infertile on cycle, when you stop it your fertility returns. This has been studied to death. About 80% of men who discontinue it get full testicular function back after 1 year and 95+% after 2 years--this is moronic style cold turkey, no PCT or anything. These are average dudes so they're probably not even lifting lmao.

      Hair loss is definitly a risk although that's associated more strongly with blasting and harder abuse, not just replacement levels.

      OP here, don't care about having kids

      Hair loss and aging my face prematurely seems not fun. Does TRT ever make you more handsome?

      TRT at replacement doses doesn't really do much if you're not lifting. If you use higher doses and lift a lot then you're basically on gear and you'll lean out if you're fat. High dose abuse will give you a typical roider look of hair loss, veins, thicker redder skin, acne, etc. Not always, depends on the person.

      https://i.imgur.com/5cTtdtk.jpg

      TRT is going to be this generation's "here's a prescription for cocaine". How many fat old pieces of shit are getting put on TRT because they're depressed and tired all of the time(probably as a result of the extent of their activity level is walking to their car in the morning to go to work or to grab another dr pepper from the fridge)? I know I have a lot of friends in our early 30s who would be "prime candidates" and wouldn't be surprised if they tried for it. It's just another massive cash grab for the doctors and pharma companies and it will actually benefit a very small number of people who actually need it.

      100% true, and I say this as a fraudster. I think its good that there's more T out in the world, but most people just inject themselves and see no results because they don't lift and yeah that's just a blatant cash grab.

      TRT is to supplementation as sumo is to deadlifts, some people's biological state warrants their use but the bulk of people who use either are doing so to cope with the fact they don't have the grit to actually put in effort.

      Also, if you have the health to hop on trt why stop there. If you're going to fraud because your genetics are shit just dive in.

      This was my final take and I like it. If you can't make gains and have truly exhausted all your options then go for it. I would caution people to be patient and use milder doses because you do see sides at blast doses: hypertension, fluid retention, elevated estrogen (I was crying watching Disney movies on my first blast), elevated lipids, liver damage if using high dose orals, cardiomegaly, acne. AI's are straight neurotoxic. These can all be avoided with low doses. Dbol was initially approved for and studied at 5-10mg/day doses in the 1960's, yet people pop 40mg+ per day.

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Man boobs in the left?

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    lol at low libido and erection problems being a symptom of not being on drugs. wtf is wrong with zoomer boys? Every generation for the last million years has been able to achieve an erection and had lots of sex. Are you really trying to gaslight yourselves into believing the default mode for males is to be low libido and unable to get hard? lmao

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >wtf is wrong with zoomer boys? Every generation for the last million years
      Kind of answered that one yourself, zoomers have handheld devices that they can watch porn on from like 12y.o
      t. Gen X who never had an erection issue until >30yo

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    TRT is going to be this generation's "here's a prescription for cocaine". How many fat old pieces of shit are getting put on TRT because they're depressed and tired all of the time(probably as a result of the extent of their activity level is walking to their car in the morning to go to work or to grab another dr pepper from the fridge)? I know I have a lot of friends in our early 30s who would be "prime candidates" and wouldn't be surprised if they tried for it. It's just another massive cash grab for the doctors and pharma companies and it will actually benefit a very small number of people who actually need it.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      cope
      TRT isn't some meme. testosterone will absolutely give everyone noticeable results. even if they're a lazy dyel piece of shit they'll still feel better with higher test levels

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Has to receive injections to feel like a man
        >COPE!!!1!
        Whatever you have to tell yourself bud.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          ur a gay

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >this generation’s cocaine
      no that would be bezos

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >broke ass pussy boy who is afraid of needles and is jealous when people who aren't improve themselves
      many such cases

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >implying i would get it from a pharma corp and not a dealer or homebrew
      haha homosexual!

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      They hated him because he told the truth.

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was life changing for me. I was 36 and I work it flooring and it’s exhausting work, and before I started TRT and I couldn’t maintain both my work and going to the gym. Now I can and I’m stronger than I’ve ever been before.

    It opened the door to other drugs too because it makes managing them so much easier. I take a small dose of HGH every night now and I’ve done cycles of high test, with Anavar, and test with dianabol. When I get on cycle it always gives me that feeling I had for the first few months of TRT. I just become a monster at the gym and at work.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based. I work a trade too and If I'm still in it at 40 I'll probably do T to keep productive. Trades literally frick your body and take years off your life so the T is going to counter that.

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    TRT is to supplementation as sumo is to deadlifts, some people's biological state warrants their use but the bulk of people who use either are doing so to cope with the fact they don't have the grit to actually put in effort.

    Also, if you have the health to hop on trt why stop there. If you're going to fraud because your genetics are shit just dive in.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Right? Just go full Bog. Reach your fullest potential.

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I dont mind trt. but don't get all ass blasted when other people get on hrt. literally the same shit

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't need it, 29 years old and still 845 ng/dl

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Steroids
    pretty sure there's plenty of support for it in here, OP.
    TRT is a fancy term invented to help normalize steroids
    >Upsides
    Literally everything
    >Downsides
    You'll be dependant for life

    Pick your side

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    unless you have a legit medical condition with bottom tier T its rat poison.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      you can tell he blasted more than simpl e test and althoter stoped lifting

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What are the side effects? Do you lose the ability to produce T naturally?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just posted that lol

      >Steroids
      pretty sure there's plenty of support for it in here, OP.
      TRT is a fancy term invented to help normalize steroids
      >Upsides
      Literally everything
      >Downsides
      You'll be dependant for life

      Pick your side

      You step into injecting test, you're hooked for life. Hands down.
      >PCT
      Yeah that's a thing but you get the benefits, you're not gonna want to turn back to normal, ever, you'll feel like a cripple

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's true, testosterone is addictive, there's never just one cycle because it just feels so much better. Even if you're high T to begin with, having stable hormone levels that do not get impacted by getting drunk/having shit sleep/not eating well alone is a good reason to just keep cruising.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm in my mid 20s depressed and low drive. Should I go for it?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Samesies.

  12. 10 months ago
    Giddy

    I wanna do it

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    me on the left

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone in canada able to get on it and have them give you injectable instead of patches/gels? Any advice for getting a dr who will get your test in the high levels and not just low average for my age?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >doctor
      lol, you really are like a baby

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        how do you get blood requisitions for hormone levels often and not have the dr ask why? i'd be down to pay for it myself, but i live in socialist canada and they aren't eager to help.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          print off the sheet yourself and fill it out then bring it to lifelabs

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            sounds legit

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have low test and hypothyroidism pretty sure.
    I hope taking thyroid meds also fixes the low test, I don't want to use needles all my life and I don't like the side effects.

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    TRT is only for the very small portion of the population who actually have problems synthesizing testosterone themselves. For 99% of guys low T can be fixed by not shoveling goyslop into your gut and by exercising regularly

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      But what if you have trouble going over the lazy Black person hurdle of even trying exercises

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Been feeling sluggish the last couple of years(32) and got my total test checked at 9 AM and it was 418. Free test was 78. Is this low enough to feel the way I do? Been working out seriously for 1 year and have put on decent muscle but would like to figure out this fatigue.

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a cope for genetic failures

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Being a genetic failure, I'll try my best to get on TRT

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’ve been cutting since March 31st and just hopped on TRT about 9 days ago. Doctor has me on 200mg of Test like OP, but 100mg doses on two different days (I take mine Monday and Thursday).

    The results are insane. All my lifts went up, and the image I provided is me at 284 on May 4th, to 287 on May 19th. Yes, I went up 3lbs, but lost a frick to of fat.

    I got two months left before I have to re-prescribe. Will 100% be doing this shit til I reach my goal. No sides so far.

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its over.

    t. 26 year old male lifting for years eating clean tracking everything in cronometer

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >300ng/dL at 26
      That's pretty fricking low, anon. My last blood test showed 500ng/dL (I was only lifting for 1 month at the time) at 25, about to turn 26.
      We pretty much have test levels of 50yos, even though natty test is pretty random and can spike a lot during the day, I'd get another blood test and see where it lands, if it comes out that low again I'd just hop on TRT.
      Someone on even 200mg a week will have more "stable" test levels throughout the whole day.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        it is kind of low but if you feel fine you are fine. go talk to your endocrinologist or find one, there are actually people out there who have a medical need for TRT, you might be one of them.

        Ill fix my thyroid first and see if that fixes the test
        better to take pills than use needles all my life

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      it is kind of low but if you feel fine you are fine. go talk to your endocrinologist or find one, there are actually people out there who have a medical need for TRT, you might be one of them.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Those TSH levels
      Dude you're almost hypotiroidal. How's T4 and T4?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        *t3

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        T4 86 ng/ml
        T3 1.1 ng/ml
        rT3 1.05 ng/ml
        cortisol 170 ng/ml
        Shbg 18 nmol/l

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          T4 seems in the high range, t3 on the lower side.
          Do you have experienced some hypot. symptoms?

          I had total t at 190, then my endo gave me t4/t3 blend cause i was diagnosed with Hashimoto and after a while test returned to near 500

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes I have most of the symptoms of hypo/low test.
            Hard to lose fat and gain muscle, low energy, low libido/no morning wood, frequent peeing especially at night.
            For years I knew this but I was afraid of pinning test and didn't know much about thyroid.
            Now that I know, I will do t4/t3 too and hope that fixes my test. Seems easy you just take a couple of pills.
            Going to endo soon I just hope he doesn't israelite me out of more money with useless tests and just gives the prescription easily.

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    i will support u in ur transition <3

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most of these homosexuals are still in their 20's they dont know shit about trt or the effects of aging. Who gives a frick about their hair or having children at 40. Try it out if it makes you feel better stick with it, if not dont. I have heard a lot of people say it doesnt do shit.

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't it lower your t-producing levels?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm on a small cycle of 350 test per week. It bothers me that many people who are talking about TRT are actually talking about small cycles. Of course, because the marketing is better.

      While you are injecting testosterone, your body will stop producing its own test.

      https://i.imgur.com/9k5KHX2.png

      Also my hair, and yes I take creatine too.

      You still look low T

      The picture makes it look like he has a pencil neck. Also looking pale. Whether it's fact or a trick of the camera can't be known to us, but it is a weak look.

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It IS pathetic to have to change your biology to succeed at anything or feel like a man. Just like it's pathetic to change your penis size with surgery or exercises.

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’m 32, I started working out at 29, got blood work at 30 and my testosterone came up at 229. At the time, I had a female PCP who had told me she would not recommend any steroids because I was within the normal range.

    fast forward to just this past March, my testosterone was at 629 at 32. I was hoping my new male doctor would put me on steroids because I feel lethargic all the time, but he told me my testosterone is likely higher, just need to lose 20lbs.

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    These aren't benefits of trt, these are benefits of high testosterone

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Whats up with all these freaks who need to use chemicals to get in shape? Just eat well, be consistent and lift smart with bro science

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd do it but people say it makes your joints hurt and I already have some bad hoint pain setting in, along with a tendency to bulge/herniate discs. I don't wanna frick my spine up worse than it already is. I also don't want ball shrinkage. Gf compliments how big nt balls are and loves playing with them, she'd be upset and I'd probably feel emasculated with tiny balls.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      rhose fricking toilet vids won't stop invading my front page

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        What are some keywords if I want to look up more of them?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          skibidi toilet, 150 million views
          It's a trippy gmod animation series

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    People are getting on TRT for no reason when they just need to stop eating modern foods and watching porn and their problems will disappear. TRT doesn't have real health benefits, it's more of a bandaid for certain issues but it causes more problems than it solves. But so many people are financially invested in "TRT" to the extent that in America it's basically a steroid-dealing clinic, so you are never going to get a steroid dealer to tell the truth about the drugs he is selling.

    TRT shills like to pretend that low test is just some random affliction, they gloss over the actual causes because they aren't interested in fixing them. They want you to keep eating the slop, keep watching porn. The answer is that our modern world is a sickness and the more you engage with it the sicker you will get. You have to spend more time in nature, you have to get away from the internet and internet porn in particular, you have to eat natural real foods particularly animal foods, and you have to find purpose not surrogate activities like gaming.

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've blasted a gram of test (~10x trt dose) and didnt get all that placebo shit on the right.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      is that backne starting all across his back?
      developing acne is the #1 reason i'm not interested in steroids.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        looks like tiny moles

  31. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Trt is the most based decision of my life, I'm on just a lil test and people come up to me asking of I'm on tren at the gym and remember seeing my feats of strength and approach me about stuff they saw me do a week ago I'm just that amazing they don't forget. It's pretty sick what's not to love? Plus I still shoot big loads. I must respond well.

  32. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ah yes TRT will definitely completely change your bone structure and make you magically grow a chin. Just lift and eat healthy that's how you gain muscle and lose fat unless you have endocrine problems.

  33. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Im on week 8 of TRT and am feeling pretty damn good.
    I hit my natty wall and am enjoying the gains.
    No more brain fog after hard training sessions , task completion is much easier overall a lot more motivated- No regrets so far.

  34. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm on TRT. 35 had low energy and diminishing libido. Test was low 400s. Free test was lower end too. It definitely kicked up both of those however I see everywhere there are no sides and there absolutely are. You have to have blood work done regularly. Hematocrit and hemoglobin raise, some guys have to donate blood regularly. Blood pressure will raise. My cholesterol raised. Balls shut off. Nuts shrink a little bit, load size decreases some. Some guys have low SHBG so they have to pin lower doses but more frequently. It's very different for each person.

  35. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lifting, eating properly, getting enough sleep and doing cardio is more than enough to have adequate T levels.

    >T drops with age!!
    Losing 10% of your test by 60 isn't a big deal.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      For most people
      I do all those and am low test

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Lifting, eating properly, getting enough sleep and doing cardio is more than enough to have adequate T levels.
      These things have very little effect on your T levels.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think you need to read up on basic biology, t. Ranny

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Your T levels are determined by your genes, things like lifting, eating properly, and cardio only create a small variance, it literally doesn't matter if you do these things and have 800ng/dl test levels or don't do these things and have 720ng/dl levels because as you said yourself 10% isn't a big deal. Most of my life I was literally an LDARing neet playing league of legends 18 hours a day, drinking energy drinks and barely eating and when I started going to the gym at 28 my T levels were 1260ng/dl, it's literally all genes.

  36. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's being over prescribed to fat losers who don't eve lift and live off if goyslop, 5hrs sleep per night, and within a brutalidtic late capitalist environment that grinds their values and bodies to dust. That said it's pretty harmless in low doses. I'm frauding myself because why not and there are no issues. My cruises are 150/wk and blasts 300 + 5mg dbol, and in these very mild doses I see 0 sides, have clean labs, normal check ups, normal BP, no hair loss, and sick gains. It's not for everybody but if you're reasonable about it there's no issues. I don't blame people for wanting to hop on given how incredibly harmful and low T our environments are nowadays, however like I said earlier 99% of people can achieve good results natty if they actually tried. I was natty for 12 years and my lifts sucked balls despite autistic programming and busting my ass. Baseline T not great not terrible at 500. Perhaps there was some epigenetic factor(s) related to my crappy uterine environment and unhealthy childhood, perhaps I'm just a genetic dead end, in any case it doesn't matter now because of this magic oily juice shit.

    You are on it for life though. You CAN PCT off and use HCG on cycle, but you inevitably ask yourself 'why would I stop?' and go right back to it. Not even an addicted to gains thing, but just a simple logical argument of why stop if there are no sides or issues? If you have sides or issues then stop.

  37. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    its great for women transitioning into men
    otherwise, you dont need it

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