What fighting style to train in?

I packed on about 30 lbs of muscle ever since my ex GF who was pretty much only friend in life cheated on me and kicked me out like trash almost 2 years ago. It drove me to attempt suicide of which no one knows. i still have my demons and want to begin to use my newly built muscle to be able to frick someone up if necessary.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Aikido worked pretty well for that guy in The Walking Dead

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I do boxing (old style with bareknuckle guard) and savate. It's pretty fricking gnarly.
      Other respectable martial arts imo are aikido and judo.
      Being able to kick is cool and all, but in reality you're just risking them running in and grabbing your leg. I stopped kickboxing when I got absolutely btfo by my boxing trainer no matter how I tried to play it and realised he was speaking truth.
      Kung fu and karate are crocks of shit.
      I also used to do ninpo. That was fun but was a complete waste of time.

      Aikido is a fricking joke and so are you for recommending it.

      OP, any martial art is good as long as they spar hard and often. I have a bias towards grappling, but do whichever one you'll enjoy the most. Remember that martial arts are incredibly hard on your body, and you will probably get injured in multiple ways. Different arts have different risks, like BJJ guys tend to get their fingers and toes broken while judo guys damage bigger joints like hips and shoulders. I stopped judo after I subluxated my shoulder, and my coach can't compete any more because he fricked his hip when he was young.

      Some good ones to look at:
      >Judo
      >BJJ
      >Wrestling
      >Sambo
      >Boxing
      >Muay Thai
      >Sanda
      >Kyokushin

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Sambo

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This. Sambo is insane dude, there are gyms in some areas, it's lit. Sport sambo is basically wrestle and judo , and combat sambo is mma with a gi jacket. It's crazy for self defense and a good combat sport to compete in if u wish , or just make a hobby out of

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Just go to mma gym. They'll teach both striking and grappling

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I do boxing (old style with bareknuckle guard) and savate. It's pretty fricking gnarly.
    Other respectable martial arts imo are aikido and judo.
    Being able to kick is cool and all, but in reality you're just risking them running in and grabbing your leg. I stopped kickboxing when I got absolutely btfo by my boxing trainer no matter how I tried to play it and realised he was speaking truth.
    Kung fu and karate are crocks of shit.
    I also used to do ninpo. That was fun but was a complete waste of time.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      idk a low-kick to someone who's mainly a boxer is pretty devastating

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        ...which is why I recommended savate

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Savate (French pronunciation: [savat]), also known as boxe française, savate boxing, French boxing or French footfighting, is a French kickboxing combat sport that uses the hands and feet as weapons combining elements of English boxing with graceful kicking techniques.[5][6][7][8]

          >Only foot kicks are allowed, unlike some systems such as Southeast Asian boxing or kickboxing, which allow the use of the knees or shins

          >Only foot kicks are allowed,

          Lol at "I recommend savate for leg kicks"

          Poke a guys thigh with your dainty toes in a street fight? Lololol

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >but in reality you're just risking them running in and grabbing your leg.
      If you punch, you're just risking them running in and grabbing your arm.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        If you've ever got your leg grabbed in a fight you'd them grabbing your arm is not nearly as risky.
        Legs are easier to catch and you'll almost certainly go to the ground.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Aikido is garbage and your entire opinion is discarded for that reason

      ...which is why I recommended savate

      You didn't actually recommend Savate in your post you goof. You said you do Savate and then you said kicking is pointless.

      Btw, I didn't know Savate had low kicks. I thought Savate was like punching and kicking tag, where being the first to touch your opponent scores really highly. I googled "Savate low kick" and pic related is apparently a Savate low kick. I am not even picking an uncharitable screenshot. This is just what it is apparently. A little tag from your foot to your opponents shin.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I wish it were possible to learn wrestling without being in high school.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I wish wrestling was less gay

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I do Muay Thai. Also yeah just go to an MMA gym and learn how to strike and grapple.

      Go to MMA gym. Mine literally has a sponsored wrestling team or some shit. It's mostly high school boys and girls who could kill you, but some adults take the class too.

      I do boxing (old style with bareknuckle guard) and savate. It's pretty fricking gnarly.
      Other respectable martial arts imo are aikido and judo.
      Being able to kick is cool and all, but in reality you're just risking them running in and grabbing your leg. I stopped kickboxing when I got absolutely btfo by my boxing trainer no matter how I tried to play it and realised he was speaking truth.
      Kung fu and karate are crocks of shit.
      I also used to do ninpo. That was fun but was a complete waste of time.

      Aikido is garbage. If you cant beat a boxer under kickboxing rules then youre just bad at kickboxing. Ive sparred pure boxers without kicks and got worked. At best I could barely manage to hang with them. But when we switch to kickboxing or muay thai rounds they were completely lost, leg kicks and teeps all day. Once they realized the kicks were an issue, even my hands started to land more often. It opens up holes in their game if you dont suck ass.

      Wrestling. It's objectively the martial art with the most MMA champions across all organizations.

      >b-b-but muh striking
      Worst track record for MMA champions comes from striking backgrounds. Reality is that grappling fricks up striking easily because of the natural progression of physical confrontation tending towards grappling. This is why even boxers wind up clinching and all other fights where it's not explicitly against rules to have ground game hit the ground.

      Wrestling allows you to both take someone down who doesn't want to be taken down, or avoid being taken down by someone who wants to be on the ground. It controls the intermediary space between striking and jiujitsu which is why it is so MMA dominant. Not to mention the simple fact that learning simple underhook based takedowns and throws basically allows you to manhandle 99% of unaware men at will even with some considerable size advantage.

      Correct. If your striking art doesnt have some sort of clinching as a bare minimum of grappling, then it is not a complete system. You have to be levels above the opponent to ensure you win if you have no grappling experience.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Pencak silat if it's nearby. It's that Jason Bourne shit. Truly superior fighting style.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Wrestling. It's objectively the martial art with the most MMA champions across all organizations.

    >b-b-but muh striking
    Worst track record for MMA champions comes from striking backgrounds. Reality is that grappling fricks up striking easily because of the natural progression of physical confrontation tending towards grappling. This is why even boxers wind up clinching and all other fights where it's not explicitly against rules to have ground game hit the ground.

    Wrestling allows you to both take someone down who doesn't want to be taken down, or avoid being taken down by someone who wants to be on the ground. It controls the intermediary space between striking and jiujitsu which is why it is so MMA dominant. Not to mention the simple fact that learning simple underhook based takedowns and throws basically allows you to manhandle 99% of unaware men at will even with some considerable size advantage.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Those hips could birth so many children

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      MMA rulesets favour grappling.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        UFC ruleset favors jiujitsu but still wrestler Chads are dominant. Pride FC had the most balanced ruleset and grapplers like Fedor were still the dominant force. The only rulesets that favor striking are the ones that completely bar grappling, which tells you all you need to know.

        Strikers will moronly say, "I just need one shot bro, you don't know about my footwork and spacing bro" endlessly and just get dumped on their heads the second the opponent isn't magically barred from doing so.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I agree with most of what you said though but isn't wrestling and grappling really only useful in one on one conflicts? It seems like its obviously situational and striking specifically with hands and good foot work I.E. boxing would excel when there are multiple potential assailants.

      I suppose if you are trained well you can rotate between what is best but I wouldn't want to be on the ground or locked with another dude even standing if he has friends around.

      On paper throws seem like they would be superior in this situation but I suspect in practice in a street fight it just doesn't work.

      I haven't fought much in my life and want to take classes but never know what to learn.

      I always lean towards boxing or Muay Thai. Everyone tells me BJJ but I'm a small dude 140lbs and would get man handled so hard. Probably worth considering. I'm in great shape and strong for my weight class at least.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    BJJ
    Muay Thai
    Wrestling
    Thats everything you need

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rough_and_tumble_fighting

    Rough & Tumble (Gouging) fighting style. Become the most feared martial artist by biting off your opponent's fingers and ears.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw no gouging gym near me

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      That's how I fight, people just call it "dirty", turns out I'm a martial artist lol. I never have severed anyone's body parts completely off though.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Rough & Tumble (Gouging) fighting style. Become the most feared martial artist by biting off your opponent's fingers and ears.

      Isn't this just ~~*Krav Maga*~~ kekekek

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I did two different Krav Maga classes for a few years and NOT ONCE did we have a groin kick day, or a bite your opponents-fingers-off day.

        I have heard of Krav Maga places that do sparring where groin kicks are 100% legal but they can't be common since no one wants to go to schools like that.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Interesting I was always under the impression Krav Maga was geared towards inflicting as much possible damage in the fewest strikes possible even if serious harm or permanent damage was a possibility but it does make it something seemingly hard to practice kek if that was the case.

          This being things like eyes, nose, throat, knees, kidneys, fingers and groin as targets.

          I'll have to do more research then.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            That is the idea, and that is what you will see on wikipedia and when googling around.

            But the reality of it is that practicing poking people in the eye or kicking them in the groin is very difficult for the fact that doing such a thing would cause permanent damage. Regular people are not going to want to take such risks in class. You have to train at a very high level before you can safely incorporate groin kicks into your sparring rule set. Instead, Krav Maga is used as a label for ineffective wimpy self defense classes that don't confer a lot of fighting skill. It is mostly for regular people who don't know any better but would like to learn some self defense skills.

            I was going to Krav Maga classes before I knew anything about any other martial art, and I found the classes to be a pretty good work out, so I was still pretty happy about Krav Maga.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Interesting I was always under the impression Krav Maga was geared towards inflicting as much possible damage in the fewest strikes possible even if serious harm or permanent damage was a possibility but it does make it something seemingly hard to practice kek if that was the case.

              This being things like eyes, nose, throat, knees, kidneys, fingers and groin as targets.

              I'll have to do more research then.

              The closest thing I have seen to a full contact version for any of what krav maga advertises would be kudo. Its basically bare knuckle mma, but they wear helmets. They also allow heabutts.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                also, krav maga is a scam and doesnt work. Any school that actually pressure tests or spars essentially turns into MMA. Wrestling with strikes, wallfighting, etc. You very rarely might find one that also includes practical weapons training, i.e, how to control posture and position of the opponent so that you can safely and effectively deploy something like a knife or gun. Again though, this essentially boils down to wrestling with strikes mixed in, at least until the weapon can be deployed

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I've done martial arts for years, nothing you can learn in a closed environment will prepare you for an actual fight.
    If you want to practice martial arts you should just go because you enjoy sparing with a group of friends and having a good time. Don't go with the idea of wanting to beat the shit out of someone, it leads to people getting hurt for no reason and you'll feel like shit afterwards.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Not absolutely dunking on someone in a streetfight with the slick footwork, stance switching, and headkicks you learned in your martial arts class

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, you could I guess, but that's not something you'll learn in a martial arts class. They mostly teach you how to fight in a controlled environment, and usually against people who fight similarly to the style you are doing. Especially because the people you will be sparing with will be other people taking the same lessons as you.
        It could give you some mental resiliance against getting hit, but even going from classes to just a tournament ring can frick up people's minds, let alone an actual street fight.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          How does "the environment is controlled" and "you only fight people who learn the same style as you" entail that your martial arts class will not prepare you to absolutely DUNK on people in street fights?

          If your style is karate head kicking, and that is all you do, then I think you would be really well prepared to karate head kick anyone at any time.

          Not that I would recommend anyone just practice karate head kicks if they wanted to get good at fighting, but certainly knowing at least one particular martial arts skill is an improvement over nothing. So your comment "you won't learn how to fight in a martial arts class" seems plainly wrong.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Because it doesn't prepare you for an actual fight where some moron can pull stupid moves out of nowhere which catch you offguard. You will spar against people who do the same as you and who work within the same general guidelines. The moment you stand before someone who pulls some shit you've never encountered it can trip you off badly.
            Martial Arts mostly teach you how to fight against people who are doing the same as you, especially sport oriented and traditional styles, on top of that a fight is not just do the same kick you practiced a million times.
            Beyond this, actual fights are all about mental stress, a martial arts class wont prepare you for the stress that a fight entails.
            I've seen people get their flight response kick in after receiving their first hit on a serious fight at the ring after doing ok taking hits during classes.
            I love sparing with my friends, don't get me wrong, I think every man should practice a martial art once in their lifetime. But don't go in expecting to come out and be able to kick the shit out of evryone at streetfights, they are completely different environments.
            I'm saying this because we always get newbies coming in with these expectations, and we don't want them to get hurt.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        What a kick

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Karate because you will be able to chop wood with your hand

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Since when the frick did we move away from BC/AD? Who could be behind this?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Jews, unironically. Don't trust anyone who uses the new terms.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      We didn't. The orthodoxy wishes we did for sake of the religious sensitivities of the unbathed migrant grease wave. But we never did.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Muay thai is cool conceptually and the moveset is excellent, but actual competition muay thai is boring and lame as frick. Multiple rounds of dudes just leaning back and teeping eachother and then some clinch work. Incredibly dry.

    I'd say go with dutch style kickboxing if you want an all-round striking art, then choose whatever grappling art you want.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Mainly do BJJ now.

    I practice a lot of striking at home and do my gym's MT class often.

    I did Krav Maga for two years. I didn't realize it at the time, but that is a really dumb martial art.

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    How do I stop my shoulder from hurting from boxing? It doesn't hurt during the practice itself, bit it's pretty sore and uncomfortable days after.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      How long have you been boxing? Where on your shoulder does it hurt?

      I find that when I practice punching, my muscles do not develop evenly. Like I get lazy about pulling punches, and so my pecs develop a lot more than my upper back. I find I can mitigate that by doing a lot of general barbell exercises, like pull ups and rows (and push ups and OHP).

      Punching puts a lot of strain on my neck, so I have had to figure out a routine of neck stretches and neck strengthening that works for me.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's usually at the collarbone and at the base of my neck. I've been boxing for almost a year now, but I only go like once a week. I do ohp, bp and pull ups. Sometimes I think it's the pull ups which cause this. As you mentioned, I also started doing a shoulder/neck stretching routine and it help greatly, but I feel like I can't do them enough.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Ah, I don't have any experience with pain there. good luck figuring it out!

          Because it doesn't prepare you for an actual fight where some moron can pull stupid moves out of nowhere which catch you offguard. You will spar against people who do the same as you and who work within the same general guidelines. The moment you stand before someone who pulls some shit you've never encountered it can trip you off badly.
          Martial Arts mostly teach you how to fight against people who are doing the same as you, especially sport oriented and traditional styles, on top of that a fight is not just do the same kick you practiced a million times.
          Beyond this, actual fights are all about mental stress, a martial arts class wont prepare you for the stress that a fight entails.
          I've seen people get their flight response kick in after receiving their first hit on a serious fight at the ring after doing ok taking hits during classes.
          I love sparing with my friends, don't get me wrong, I think every man should practice a martial art once in their lifetime. But don't go in expecting to come out and be able to kick the shit out of evryone at streetfights, they are completely different environments.
          I'm saying this because we always get newbies coming in with these expectations, and we don't want them to get hurt.

          >Because it doesn't prepare you for an actual fight where some moron can pull stupid moves out of nowhere which catch you offguard.
          What "stupid moves out some moron can pull out of nowhere" would say, a boxer be vulnerable to? A Muay Thai practitioner?

          This is such a dumb idea that boxers are only prepared to fight boxers but have no ability to fight random morons on the street.

          Right, it isn't the same, but if whatever random morons do is combat effective you would think that would have been incorporated and used in the actual gym too.

          >Beyond this, actual fights are all about mental stress, a martial arts class wont prepare you for the stress that a fight entails.
          Idk man some of the sparring I have been in at my gym has been pretty stressful due to some fellows going pretty hard. I don't like sparring at my gym for that reason, but, it is what it is. You can in fact get something that approximates a high pressure stressful fight condition in a gym.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Being a good fighter just takes low impulse control and an inability to be concerned for the safety of others. Work and spar hard, but you'll always be at a disadvantage to people with low IQ and no impulse control.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's usually at the collarbone and at the base of my neck. I've been boxing for almost a year now, but I only go like once a week. I do ohp, bp and pull ups. Sometimes I think it's the pull ups which cause this. As you mentioned, I also started doing a shoulder/neck stretching routine and it help greatly, but I feel like I can't do them enough.

      I was going to say muscle endurance but it seems like you're having problems more on your traps area and less on the delts. do you have someone like a coach who watches your punching form?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I have a coach every time, yeah.
        So you'd suggest some trap exercises?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I can't really give advice since I didn't experience your problem mate. though I did have a problem with my delts and arms the first 6 months of my boxing, i just did what I did and my body eventually got used to it.
          I'd take a wild guess and say that maybe it's muscle endurance afterall but if the discomfort that you're having is more than muscle soreness then perhaps it's more than that.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I only ever did boxing, at the very least you'll condition your mass into something. I don't like mixed stuff because I feel that most of them are memes. Karate, kung fu, etc that was mcdojo type shit that was sold to the boomers when they were young. basically anything with kicks. However grappling is absolutely top tier necessary in a fight becuase you will go to the ground.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Judo is pretty fun and you are really going to learn how off balance most people are. Your shoulders might get destroyed. You will learn how to fall down.
    Bjj is easier on the body than judo and has a more relaxed culture where you can make some great friends from the gym.
    Boxing will wreck your brain but you will be shredded from the training. You will also learn how to punch.
    Capoeira will be great for dancing and parties. It is wonderful for giving you a community who will help you out for life. You will also obtain neat tricks and flexibility.

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    upright wrestling

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