What is the best row movement for back gains?

What is the best row movement for back gains?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    all of them

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      * except Pendlay rows

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why are Penlday rows bad?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >he doesn't know

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No I don't, that's why I asked 🙂

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              dyel

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They aren't if you're not doing

          Is it just me or are rows the #1 exercise where normies do something totally retarded in the gym?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          LOL omg I guess I was new to lifting once too

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Chest supported

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Rows for back gains
      >Support chest to take load off back
      Why would you do this?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        that only applies to lower back which is the usual limiting factor in most row variations

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          If you're trying to train your back it's a good thing that your back is the limiting factor.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I do pull ups and fuck your mom in the ass most of the time

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do pull outs too, dad.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i like t-bar rows, and meadows/dumbell rows

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    t-bar and cable

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    one arm db row

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it just me or are rows the #1 exercise where normies do something totally retarded in the gym?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >that half rom deadlift to torso drop

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        the herniated disc row kek

        Dyels. Guaranteed.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Absolute retard. When it pops he'll never be the same. If you've ever had a disc injury you'd know how retarded that is.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >that half rom deadlift to torso drop

      the herniated disc row kek

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not too far from the truth. I did heavy rows this week (100kg) which I can usually do for 12 reps but something felt off that day but I pulled through anyway. Fucking injured myself on my first heavy set. I think back exercises are the most prone to injury because of how you brace your entire body plus they're usually heavy.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah stabilization muscles are fucking vital for heavy back lifts and that can only be built with progressive overload.

          ive done some stupid deadlifts before that im really glad didnt go wrong. i also popped something in my front deltoid doing pushups of all things and for months and months afterwards i felt hardcore pain in it doing bent over barbell rows, just goes to show theres all sorts of muscle recruitment going on during heavy lifts

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      would only lift one plate on chest support.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        he is pulling over 400 pounds, it might be retarded form but he is strong

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >#1 exercise where normies do something totally retarded in the gym

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I literally saw someone sit on the lat pulldown backwards before

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've seen some huge people essentially use this as an incline row and it confuses me every time.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      why worry about it? even right wing extremists who want eugenics and genocide to be the norm are starting to go out of their way to prevent darwinism from taking place. even if it's not "oh the poor normie retard lifter we should send him money!" it's still you allocating mental effort to it. let this subhuman mongrel retard ruin himself in the gym for vanity and ego, focus on bettering yourself.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        moron waht the fuck are you talking about

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    dumbbell two arm row or one arm row better?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      one arm row is better for dumbbells, but double overhand barbell rows are best

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I want to avoid more strain on my lower back, as I already do DL. Are sitting cable rows and s 3 point dumbell rows a sufficient replacement

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          yes

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Switch to standing 2 points db rows, having your knee resting on the bench puts some strain in your groin area. You'll look like you're taking HWD but hey, beats being that retard with an inguinal hernia

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >standing 2 points
            Nice double dubs, but what exactly does this mean? Do you have a video/picture?

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the only thing i dislike about rows is that it's impossible to have a standardized rep, unless you do strict pendlay or seal rows
    otherwise they're great

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cable row or chest supported row variants like seal rows, unless you aren't Deadlifting then do bent over rows or Yates rows.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pendleys

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yates

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    if overall back gains: kroc because of sheer overload
    if lats: probably parrillo but they're hard to do with correct technique and the lever row machine might be unsuited for your proprtions
    if traps: pendlay if you do them right which means starting the movement by flexing upper back and then arching/contracting upper back while lower back doesn't move

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rotate dumbbell, single arm barbell, supported chest rows etc every 4 weeks or so.
    You can do normal barbell rows in your pic after deadlifts/rack pulls.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have no access to machine, I only have an inclined bench and adjustable dumbbells.

    Chest supported rows is my favorite.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm going out on a limb here and say: "Depends on the person". Figure out how your muscle strands are aligned and do the exercise that gets you the highest ROM.

    I love picrel, because it gives me the biggest degree of freedom of wrist rotation. Others hate it. I'm not a fan of cable rows.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Forgot pic

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This feels incredible

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        what is that, looks like picrel

        what makes it any better than a regular row machine?

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    For a standard barbell row is a closer grip or wider grip better for targeting lats?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      closer

      Are chest supported rows where you put your knees on the bench bad for gains? It doesn’t feel comfortable for me when I stretch my legs out on the floor. Pic related is what I’m talmbout.

      it doesn't matter

      Chest supported rows, pull-ups, chin-ups, deadlifts, good mornings, DB Yates row is a favorite of mine.
      I'm not a big fan of using my lower back in rows simply because heavy squats, deadlifts and good mornings already tax it adequately.

      heavy cheaty rows are cool if you have a dedicated back day and start with them. not that it matters in any way.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wider hits rhomboids and upper back more

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Chest supported rows, pull-ups, chin-ups, deadlifts, good mornings, DB Yates row is a favorite of mine.
    I'm not a big fan of using my lower back in rows simply because heavy squats, deadlifts and good mornings already tax it adequately.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are chest supported rows where you put your knees on the bench bad for gains? It doesn’t feel comfortable for me when I stretch my legs out on the floor. Pic related is what I’m talmbout.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I do this and they're the fucking best IMO. haven't tried with knees on the bench.
      I don't have a cable and this is probably the best you can do with only free weights.
      downside is you need access to heavier dumbbells

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would think you'd get nothing but a loss of stability from having your feet off the ground.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bareback rows

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    cable rows if you have access to them

    chest supported if you dont

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone on the Internet told me that overhand Barbell rows are the best, but I barely feel my lats when I do them. I really feel my lats when I do Underhand Grip rows though. Same thing with lat pulldowns.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What do u feel ?

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like to do single arm machine rows, single arm pull downs, single arm cable rows (high to low), it takes longer but i find its more forgiving on the spine because you are not pinching your vertebrae between your shoulder blades. With single arm your spine has room to move throughout the motion

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I also deadlifts (obviously)

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Single arm deadlifts I assume

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    for me it's the high row.
    just comes easy for me.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    seated cable rows
    every row involving a barbell is egolifting and complete garbage for hypertrophy

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you know it´s true

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    regular barbell row and t bar row

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The best? Probably pullups.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      OP said row movement, pullups aren't the same. they're based anyway and probably my fav lift along with OHP

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        what's the distinction that makes pullups not rows

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          vertical vs horizontal

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            vertical vs horizontal back pull

            Low iq

            what's the distinction that makes pullups not rows

            The row targets more upper back while chins do more lats

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          vertical vs horizontal back pull

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Try to make love with a wild sheep, grab by the whool

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Seal rows

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. Unless you morons enjoy taxing your lower back enjoy have a sub par dl. Did pendlay religously until my gym finally got a seal row bench.

      >standing 2 points
      Nice double dubs, but what exactly does this mean? Do you have a video/picture?

      Just do Helms rows or chest supported rows, it completely take your erectors out of the equation unless your gym has a seal row bench. If they do do seal rows instead.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I never do this row because it looks like you’re bending over to be fucked in the ass.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I do Pendlay rows (properly), batwing rows, and pull-ups - which is really just a vertical row.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yates rows and weighted pullups are unironically only two exercises you need for back.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Whichever you can feel best.For me it's T bar for upper back and cable one arm with a twist for lats.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Snatch pulls and weighted pull ups.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Snatch grip high pulls are my favorite back exercise right now

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Personally machines are the best for backwork any and all chest supported machines are great. I prefer close grips on the lat pull down and prefer the widest grip I can on the horizontal cable pull. For back machine exercises I prefer to do rest pause so 1st set xF, pause for 20 seconds tops, 2nd set xF, pause 20 seconds, 3rd set to F; if I have a partner we will do assisted and then negative reps on the final set.

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gorilla rows
    Retvrn to monke

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    For me, it’s the T-bar row with parallel grip

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Weighted pullup

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd suggest chest supported DB rows, one of my favorites for many years. That, Kroc rows (reminiscing from when Matt was Matt and pre-chudfag days) and 45 degree pulldowns have been solid staples for why I'm wide as fuck.

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    For these seated cable rows, specifically to target the traps, should I be using a wide lat bar grip to the chest or a narrow grip?

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    chest supported t-bar row

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