Good job sliding the argument there. Not only this isn't true for herbivorous mammals, but this doesn't change the fact that humans are carnivores given their completely different digestive and intestinal tract :^)
1 year ago
Anonymous
I'm correct in that humans are herbivores and you already know it, why else would you slide twice in a row with traits of other species we don't have and neither do other herbivores
1 year ago
Anonymous
>humans are herbivores but we can't digest 99% of plant matter on earth
lol. you're a fricking moron. either you're a ruminant, either you eat your own shit, either you have the gut bacteria required to digest it, either you're a great panda. humans don't fall in any of these categories
1 year ago
Anonymous
We can extract the glucose and fructose from plants just fine, as well as nutritious liquid between the cellulose walls, and we can in fact break down the cellulose walls and get the nutrients inside the plant cells too. This is the case for most herbivores on the planet. But you the moron meathead only yap about fiber.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>we can extract the glucose and fructose from selectively bred fruits and plants just fine
yeah. except those aren't occuring in nature, moron. let alone the protein.
Enjoy your 600 kcal a day in the wild. (200 kcal in winter) >moron meathead
And he does it again. DYEL.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Glucose and fructose exists in all plants. Some simply have it more than others and we obviously prefer those, dumb meathead.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Glucose and fructose exists in all plants. Some simply have it more than others and we obviously prefer those, dumb meathead.
Some have more than others because we selectively bred them for thousands of years. If you only feed yourself from glucose and fructose, you will die. Creatine deficiency really does a number on you doesn't it?
1 year ago
Anonymous
No, some have more than others because about 391,000 species of plants exist. We bred the best ones further because we are herbivores. Not exactly carnivore behaviour to cultivate plants, my dear logically impaired meathead. Creatine is not an essential nutrient. It is an amino acid derivative, naturally produced in the human body from the amino acids glycine and arginine.
1 year ago
Anonymous
We've been raising and hunting animals for far longer (millions of years) than raising plants (10,000 years, even less in some areas)
>With every chew, you feel more connected to your hunter-gatherer ancestors
You are so incredibly gay, and are nothing like a hunter gatherer for eating a steak you bought you homosexual. Go actually kill a deer or something and eat it’s still beating heart if you want to be like “le based hunter gatherer ancestors”
You reek of s°y. Go eat raw grass outside, homosexual.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>t. has never hunted and killed anything
Why don’t you actually try and be like your ancestors you hold so highly. I hunt fish and forage in the woods all year round. I’ve know multiple gays like you. You are all soft homosexuals who think eating steak makes them a man. Go out and actually catch you own food, then you can talk about being close to your ancestors
1 year ago
Anonymous
There's nothing left to hunt here, only shitty boars purposedly let out for that.
You're a moronic vegan if you think I'm somehow incapable of killing an animal. I don't give a shit, homosexual. And I'm not
Because it has a lot of protein, few carbonhydrates and tastes great. With every chew, you feel more connected to your hunter-gatherer ancestors who had to work very hard to earn a bite. Eating red meat is a very human experience.
Oh, and also a lot of supposed risks of red meat are either false or overblown: https://www.healthdata.org/research-article/health-effects-associated-consumption-unprocessed-red-meat-burden-proof-study
but he's right.
We have been eating plants longer than we have been eating meat, as is evident by the other side of the ape tree which diverged from us 13 milion years ago, and the subsequent early hominid fossil record.
Then sustain yourself on plankton because we have a common ancestor with whales.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Does the evolutionary history matter or not? You're both yapping about millions of years and then going on hyperbole to whales when being pointed out that hominds ate a plant diet far longer than two millions years. Can you decide, dear mentally impaired meathead.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I'm pointing out that our current human species has evolved eating mostly animal-based products. You're pointing out that other species have evolved differently since they split from our common ancestor far longer ago.
You're a DYEL and it shows.
A lot of cope in here from mom-pop science tier bloggers trying to justify red meat as being good lmao
>just listen to the correlation-based bullshit studies led by the health authorities of a country with 50% obesity bro
1 year ago
Anonymous
You talked about millions of years and I pointed out the hominid branch diverged from other apes 13 million years ago. The last common ancestor was a herbivore, as are all the apes of the divergent branch, and so were the earliest recorded hominids in our branch, dear brainless meathead. Which hominid are you talking about with your >We've been raising and hunting animals for far longer (millions of years)
claim? Just to clarify humans have not even existed for millions of years. You are truly an imbecile ignoramus.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Just to clarify humans have not even existed for millions of years
Sure thing, literally every homosexual species was a literal chimp and then magically we turned into humans unable to digest pretty much anything of interest from plants :^)
I will keep eating my red meat and I will be happy.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You can't read, idiot meathead. Read this again >hominid branch diverged from other apes 13 million years ago. The last common ancestor was a herbivore, as are all the apes of the divergent branch, and so were the earliest recorded hominids in our branch
Your memory is also horrible, dear demented meathead. I already wrote about how we get everything except the fiber from plants here and you didn't even attempt to contest what I said
We can extract the glucose and fructose from plants just fine, as well as nutritious liquid between the cellulose walls, and we can in fact break down the cellulose walls and get the nutrients inside the plant cells too. This is the case for most herbivores on the planet. But you the moron meathead only yap about fiber.
I'm starting to think you are genuinely and severely mentally moronic, this is really not going anywhere because you can't read and can't remember things from mere minutes ago.
1 year ago
Anonymous
post body homosexual
1 year ago
Anonymous
You gave up basically because you are too stupid to follow a conversation to make coherent replies, cool. You can post your body now to try to salvage some dignity, don't forget the timestamp (as in: you hold a piece of paper where you write the time, the board and the post number you are replying to). I want to see what a genuinely moronic meathead looks like.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You're a DYEL b***h. Enjoy your B12 gummies and looking like either a skelly or a pathetic blob.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I know you have serious brain issues, but moron please at least try >don't forget the timestamp (as in: you hold a piece of paper where you write the time, the board and the post number you are replying to)
What part of the instruction above you did not understand?
1 year ago
Anonymous
The sheer fact that you accuse this picture of being stolen is a good enough compliment. You really thought I was going to actually spend time making you a custom pic, homosexual?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yes I did, that is what posting body means. There is no proof whatsoever that is you. I know you have brain issues so I am not going to accuse you of malicious intent, just that you can't understand why rules to posting body are such as they are.
1 year ago
Anonymous
We have been eating plants longer than we have been eating meat, as is evident by the other side of the ape tree which diverged from us 13 milion years ago, and the subsequent early hominid fossil record.
>earth is covered in grass >cow converts grass to the most nutrient dense food available to us (liver and ribeye, milk, butter, etc)
Cows were made for us by God, although modern farming is a rape of that gift
>t. has never stepped out side
I’m all for meat lad but you just sound moronic when you post this shit. If you are a mutt make a cross country trip and see the vastly different landscapes and ecosystems the US alone houses.
According to my God and reality, all the most healthiest food are all plants, which is why Seventh day Adventists live longer and have less disease than every single other religious group on the planet including the nonreligious.
this is next level moronic. matter of fact im going to frick your ass so hard you will be blown all the way to pluto and theres no way you're coming back. god is my father and he loves me more than you.
>humans eat bugs and greens like a chimp >eventually become smart enough to use tools >meat is now a staple instead of a luxury >meat is so much better for humans we literally lose our appendixes over it
What is your explanation for hominid skulls and teeth progressively becoming more herbivorous where modern humans are the most herbivorous by that metric.
>what is the agricultural revolution
Yeah humans switching to grain and ruining their skulls and teeth are definitely in favor of your argument you fricking moron
Now if you’ll kindly point me towards a tribal people or historic people that managed to pass their progeny to today on a purely vegan diet please do so.
>Now if you’ll kindly point me towards a tribal people or historic people that managed to pass their progeny to today on a purely vegan diet please do so.
gorillas
Gorillas ferment cellulose into saturated fat just like ruminants. They have a larger large intestine and colon relative to humans. They also eat 16 hours a day and probably eat their own shit
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Gorillas ferment cellulose into saturated fat just like ruminants.
you have no idea what you are talking about, hope you at least realize how moronic you are >They have a larger large intestine and colon relative to humans.
so do taller humans compared to smaller humans, not an argument >They also eat 16 hours a day
not an argument >and probably eat their own shit
you definitely do
1 year ago
Anonymous
>The macronutrient profile of this diet would be as follows: 2.5% energy as fat, 24.3% protein, 15.8% available carbohydrate, with potentially 57.3% of metabolizable energy from short-chain fatty acids (SCFA) derived from colonic fermentation of fiber. Gorillas would therefore obtain considerable energy through fiber fermentation.
You are a stupid gorilla
Because it has a lot of protein, few carbonhydrates and tastes great. With every chew, you feel more connected to your hunter-gatherer ancestors who had to work very hard to earn a bite. Eating red meat is a very human experience.
Oh, and also a lot of supposed risks of red meat are either false or overblown: https://www.healthdata.org/research-article/health-effects-associated-consumption-unprocessed-red-meat-burden-proof-study
>With every chew, you feel more connected to your hunter-gatherer ancestors
You are so incredibly gay, and are nothing like a hunter gatherer for eating a steak you bought you homosexual. Go actually kill a deer or something and eat it’s still beating heart if you want to be like “le based hunter gatherer ancestors”
>according to this one study x is actually...
That's how you know you are full of crap, pic related is reality, the more meat you eat the less healthy you are.
>hunter-gatherer ancestors >Starch grains from the rhizomes of Typha (cattails, bullrushes) as flour have been identified from grinding stones in Europe dating back to 30,000 years ago.[6] Starch grains from sorghum were found on grind stones in caves in Ngalue, Mozambique dating up to 100,000 years ago.[7]
You mean those guys who were eating starch hundreds of thousands of years ago already
>it’s a plant eaters think tribes of humans could get by foraging for roots and mushrooms and berries
They ate meat. Everything else was just to stave of starvation until the hunters returned with meat
Red meats are good for getting certain minerals.
White meats are good for getting Vitamin Bs.
Eggs are good for getting Vitamin D and some Bs.
All of these are good for protein as well.
Vitamin A, Vitamin C, Vitamin K, Vitamin E, and most minerals - all come from green leafy vegetables, citrus fruits, seeds, and nuts.
These also have the most antioxidant properties and potential for lowering chances of chronic diseases.
>Vitamin A, Vitamin C, Vitamin K, Vitamin E, and most minerals
With the exception of C all of these are best obtained from animal foods. Vitamin C requirements decrease if you eat less sugar and can be provided entirely by fresh meat
Get good scrub
What fish is that? Looks tasty.
Eel on rice.
doesnt the eel industry use slaves? i recall seeig an article
im gonna start exclusively eating eel from now on
do you make your own unagi sauce or what?
it uses traps in the fall mostly whey they migrate out to the ocean to spawn. Idk why you'd need slaves for that.
Is that unagi? I'm vegetarian but I used to work in a Japanese restaurant and that shit looked so good.
haha gay lefty
I hate women and trannies more than you ever will, homosexual
hitler being a vegetarian was just prropaganda to try make him seem pathetic, you cant love animas if you hate the most important one, yourself
>I'm vegetarian
no one asked, also learn how to make it eggplant gayboi
>peasant rice
dropped
zero evidence that eating that junk is good for you in any way, humans are herbivores
that's why they can't digest cellulose right?
Neither can most other herbivores... ruminants are a small minority, meathead.
So, do you practice coprophagia like rabbits? Wouldn't surprise me.
>meathead
Discord troony spotted.
Herbivores eating their own shit are also a minority
Good job sliding the argument there. Not only this isn't true for herbivorous mammals, but this doesn't change the fact that humans are carnivores given their completely different digestive and intestinal tract :^)
I'm correct in that humans are herbivores and you already know it, why else would you slide twice in a row with traits of other species we don't have and neither do other herbivores
>humans are herbivores but we can't digest 99% of plant matter on earth
lol. you're a fricking moron. either you're a ruminant, either you eat your own shit, either you have the gut bacteria required to digest it, either you're a great panda. humans don't fall in any of these categories
We can extract the glucose and fructose from plants just fine, as well as nutritious liquid between the cellulose walls, and we can in fact break down the cellulose walls and get the nutrients inside the plant cells too. This is the case for most herbivores on the planet. But you the moron meathead only yap about fiber.
>we can extract the glucose and fructose from selectively bred fruits and plants just fine
yeah. except those aren't occuring in nature, moron. let alone the protein.
Enjoy your 600 kcal a day in the wild. (200 kcal in winter)
>moron meathead
And he does it again. DYEL.
Glucose and fructose exists in all plants. Some simply have it more than others and we obviously prefer those, dumb meathead.
>Glucose and fructose exists in all plants. Some simply have it more than others and we obviously prefer those, dumb meathead.
Some have more than others because we selectively bred them for thousands of years. If you only feed yourself from glucose and fructose, you will die. Creatine deficiency really does a number on you doesn't it?
No, some have more than others because about 391,000 species of plants exist. We bred the best ones further because we are herbivores. Not exactly carnivore behaviour to cultivate plants, my dear logically impaired meathead. Creatine is not an essential nutrient. It is an amino acid derivative, naturally produced in the human body from the amino acids glycine and arginine.
We've been raising and hunting animals for far longer (millions of years) than raising plants (10,000 years, even less in some areas)
You reek of s°y. Go eat raw grass outside, homosexual.
>t. has never hunted and killed anything
Why don’t you actually try and be like your ancestors you hold so highly. I hunt fish and forage in the woods all year round. I’ve know multiple gays like you. You are all soft homosexuals who think eating steak makes them a man. Go out and actually catch you own food, then you can talk about being close to your ancestors
There's nothing left to hunt here, only shitty boars purposedly let out for that.
You're a moronic vegan if you think I'm somehow incapable of killing an animal. I don't give a shit, homosexual. And I'm not
but he's right.
Then sustain yourself on plankton because we have a common ancestor with whales.
Does the evolutionary history matter or not? You're both yapping about millions of years and then going on hyperbole to whales when being pointed out that hominds ate a plant diet far longer than two millions years. Can you decide, dear mentally impaired meathead.
I'm pointing out that our current human species has evolved eating mostly animal-based products. You're pointing out that other species have evolved differently since they split from our common ancestor far longer ago.
You're a DYEL and it shows.
>just listen to the correlation-based bullshit studies led by the health authorities of a country with 50% obesity bro
You talked about millions of years and I pointed out the hominid branch diverged from other apes 13 million years ago. The last common ancestor was a herbivore, as are all the apes of the divergent branch, and so were the earliest recorded hominids in our branch, dear brainless meathead. Which hominid are you talking about with your
>We've been raising and hunting animals for far longer (millions of years)
claim? Just to clarify humans have not even existed for millions of years. You are truly an imbecile ignoramus.
>Just to clarify humans have not even existed for millions of years
Sure thing, literally every homosexual species was a literal chimp and then magically we turned into humans unable to digest pretty much anything of interest from plants :^)
I will keep eating my red meat and I will be happy.
You can't read, idiot meathead. Read this again
>hominid branch diverged from other apes 13 million years ago. The last common ancestor was a herbivore, as are all the apes of the divergent branch, and so were the earliest recorded hominids in our branch
Your memory is also horrible, dear demented meathead. I already wrote about how we get everything except the fiber from plants here and you didn't even attempt to contest what I said
I'm starting to think you are genuinely and severely mentally moronic, this is really not going anywhere because you can't read and can't remember things from mere minutes ago.
post body homosexual
You gave up basically because you are too stupid to follow a conversation to make coherent replies, cool. You can post your body now to try to salvage some dignity, don't forget the timestamp (as in: you hold a piece of paper where you write the time, the board and the post number you are replying to). I want to see what a genuinely moronic meathead looks like.
You're a DYEL b***h. Enjoy your B12 gummies and looking like either a skelly or a pathetic blob.
I know you have serious brain issues, but moron please at least try
>don't forget the timestamp (as in: you hold a piece of paper where you write the time, the board and the post number you are replying to)
What part of the instruction above you did not understand?
The sheer fact that you accuse this picture of being stolen is a good enough compliment. You really thought I was going to actually spend time making you a custom pic, homosexual?
Yes I did, that is what posting body means. There is no proof whatsoever that is you. I know you have brain issues so I am not going to accuse you of malicious intent, just that you can't understand why rules to posting body are such as they are.
We have been eating plants longer than we have been eating meat, as is evident by the other side of the ape tree which diverged from us 13 milion years ago, and the subsequent early hominid fossil record.
>earth is covered in grass
>cow converts grass to the most nutrient dense food available to us (liver and ribeye, milk, butter, etc)
Cows were made for us by God, although modern farming is a rape of that gift
Earth is not covered in grass. Natural ecosystems fitting for cows and others of their genus are very small.
>t. has never stepped out side
I’m all for meat lad but you just sound moronic when you post this shit. If you are a mutt make a cross country trip and see the vastly different landscapes and ecosystems the US alone houses.
According to my God and reality, all the most healthiest food are all plants, which is why Seventh day Adventists live longer and have less disease than every single other religious group on the planet including the nonreligious.
Oh right I remember reading that in the Book of Kine
this is next level moronic. matter of fact im going to frick your ass so hard you will be blown all the way to pluto and theres no way you're coming back. god is my father and he loves me more than you.
>humans eat bugs and greens like a chimp
>eventually become smart enough to use tools
>meat is now a staple instead of a luxury
>meat is so much better for humans we literally lose our appendixes over it
What is your explanation for hominid skulls and teeth progressively becoming more herbivorous where modern humans are the most herbivorous by that metric.
our herbivorous ancestor went extinct. humans evolved to eat and digest large amounts of meat and animal foods.
>what is the agricultural revolution
Yeah humans switching to grain and ruining their skulls and teeth are definitely in favor of your argument you fricking moron
Now if you’ll kindly point me towards a tribal people or historic people that managed to pass their progeny to today on a purely vegan diet please do so.
>Now if you’ll kindly point me towards a tribal people or historic people that managed to pass their progeny to today on a purely vegan diet please do so.
gorillas
Gorillas ferment cellulose into saturated fat just like ruminants. They have a larger large intestine and colon relative to humans. They also eat 16 hours a day and probably eat their own shit
>Gorillas ferment cellulose into saturated fat just like ruminants.
you have no idea what you are talking about, hope you at least realize how moronic you are
>They have a larger large intestine and colon relative to humans.
so do taller humans compared to smaller humans, not an argument
>They also eat 16 hours a day
not an argument
>and probably eat their own shit
you definitely do
>The macronutrient profile of this diet would be as follows: 2.5% energy as fat, 24.3% protein, 15.8% available carbohydrate, with potentially 57.3% of metabolizable energy from short-chain fatty acids (SCFA) derived from colonic fermentation of fiber. Gorillas would therefore obtain considerable energy through fiber fermentation.
You are a stupid gorilla
>no argument
ketard troon moment
>gorillas
We aren’t gorillas you fricking moron. That would be like you saying “boars eat 99% vegetation” and I said: “oh yeah? Polar bears”
It's a waste of energy and biomass to grow fangs when we use tools to kill our prey
Healthmaxxing
>Not choosing sweet taters
Ngmi
>creating acrylamide in your potatoes instead of just making mash.
Steak, sautéed mushromm/onions, potatos and for dessert gummy bears
Tbh it's probably unironically a tub of skyr with chia seeds thrown in, top tier snack, although you can never go wrong with a nice lean steak
Because it has a lot of protein, few carbonhydrates and tastes great. With every chew, you feel more connected to your hunter-gatherer ancestors who had to work very hard to earn a bite. Eating red meat is a very human experience.
Oh, and also a lot of supposed risks of red meat are either false or overblown: https://www.healthdata.org/research-article/health-effects-associated-consumption-unprocessed-red-meat-burden-proof-study
Any "study" linking meat consumption to risks of cancer, Alzheimer...etc are correlation-based bullshit studies anyway.
>With every chew, you feel more connected to your hunter-gatherer ancestors
You are so incredibly gay, and are nothing like a hunter gatherer for eating a steak you bought you homosexual. Go actually kill a deer or something and eat it’s still beating heart if you want to be like “le based hunter gatherer ancestors”
>according to this one study x is actually...
That's how you know you are full of crap, pic related is reality, the more meat you eat the less healthy you are.
>hunter-gatherer ancestors
>Starch grains from the rhizomes of Typha (cattails, bullrushes) as flour have been identified from grinding stones in Europe dating back to 30,000 years ago.[6] Starch grains from sorghum were found on grind stones in caves in Ngalue, Mozambique dating up to 100,000 years ago.[7]
You mean those guys who were eating starch hundreds of thousands of years ago already
we're talking about millions of years moron
>With every chew, you feel more connected to your hunter-gatherer ancestors
bend over
A lot of cope in here from mom-pop science tier bloggers trying to justify red meat as being good lmao
>it’s a plant eaters think tribes of humans could get by foraging for roots and mushrooms and berries
They ate meat. Everything else was just to stave of starvation until the hunters returned with meat
just went to a steakhouse for lunch with a friend at 3pm today, didn't have to eat anything else all day since I hit my calorie limit
so tasty
Depends.
Red meats are good for getting certain minerals.
White meats are good for getting Vitamin Bs.
Eggs are good for getting Vitamin D and some Bs.
All of these are good for protein as well.
Vitamin A, Vitamin C, Vitamin K, Vitamin E, and most minerals - all come from green leafy vegetables, citrus fruits, seeds, and nuts.
These also have the most antioxidant properties and potential for lowering chances of chronic diseases.
This is why you need a balanced diet.
>Vitamin A, Vitamin C, Vitamin K, Vitamin E, and most minerals
With the exception of C all of these are best obtained from animal foods. Vitamin C requirements decrease if you eat less sugar and can be provided entirely by fresh meat
just eat one vit C fruit before working out, it's not that hard