What machines are worth using?

I’ve recently switched more towards free weights over machines, but I want to know what the consensus is on what some of the more useful ones are. Preferably stuff that’s hard to replicate with free weights.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pullover machine

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah that’s why I had it in the picture, it’s the only thing that does upper and lower back at the same time, and using it feels like getting into a mech suit lol

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    try it yourself. use every machine you can once and keep using those you like.
    worst that will happen is your muscles get a bit bigger.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hack squats. Squats without the back tweaks.
    Seated shoulder press. Your shoulders are fragile so you really don't need to 1930s oly larp to train them. The stability helps it stay a shoulder movement and since your head isn't in the way it is better than the barbell since you don't overemphasize the front delts (already trained in every pushing movement) by having the barbell out in front of you but rather in line with your shoulders, like you would want.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Personally, OHP feels better than the shoulder press machine

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      what about dumbbell shoulder press?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Almost interchangeable but you can handle more weight with a machine and make easier progress since you can microload.

        >Your shoulders are fragile
        No, YOUR shoulders are fragile

        Google "weightlifter's shoulder." Actually, better yet actually go to a gym and count the people with shoulder problems. I know your 95lb OHP feels good while you're 16 on IST but it becomes an issue.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Yeah just wait until it happens
          >Gonna happen any day now
          >I know it hasn't happened yet but you just wait!
          Describe to me what shoulder problem I'm going to have. I actually flare my elbows and press directly up while pressing my neck forward. Doing this literally fixes and elbow pain I have. Must be bad right!
          >It is an overuse phenomenon that causes tiny fractures along the end of the clavicle. A breakdown of the bone (osteolysis) occurs.
          It's called calcium, D3 and K2 mong

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he doesn't know about calcium
            lol
            overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Actually, better yet actually go to a gym and count the people with shoulder problems
          I can attest to this. My dad used to bodybuild and powerlift back in the day. He's had to get a couple shoulder surgeries, his knee is all fucked up, and he's had a slipped disc.
          These things didn't happen right away, they happened as he got older and it was largely due to the heavy lifting from stuff like OHP, bench press, and squats.
          He's still in good health today, doesn't lift much but is doing ironman distance triathlons at 61 years old, but those lifts did quite a number on his body.
          Not saying you shouldn't do those workouts, but just know that they will inevitably lead to problems when you get older if you continue to do them and up the weight heavier and heavier. The main compound lifts are largely useless today (unless you plan on competing as a powerlifter) and can be replaced with exercises that are not only safer and cause less damage, but tend to work a lot better as well.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          i'm 32 and ohp 170.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Your shoulders are fragile
      No, YOUR shoulders are fragile

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This anon gets it.

        And I only really use the machines for leg extensions and hamstring curls. Barbell and dumbell movements "hit" these muscles, but these machines target the fuck out of my quads and hams.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        My shoulders are actually fragile with history of sports related injuries. Thats the exact reason I dont train them in a machine.

        If it's fragine, it needs to get stronger

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like using the smith for bench and squats. It helps me when I'm really pushing heavy to better manage the risk. Better to be safe than sorry I always say

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not sure the exact name but the flt machine(not cables) feels great and I find it a lot easier to isolate chest

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically far better than dumbbell raises

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The ones that actually get you to exercise.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anything with cables and that’s it, anything else is a waste of time

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is there a machine that specifically targets the abs/core?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Weighted crunch and twist machines do

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