what makes it so bad exactly?

what makes it so bad exactly?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing. Incels will tell you that it will decrease your metabolic rate because of PUFAs and that you will become fat and stupid.
    But I sure as heck love my KFCino. I'll just run for 3 hours afterwards because CICO and SCIENCE, amirite?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      estrogenic and anti-thyroid.

      Utterly nonsensible fence sitter take, just like they always are.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I like this bait. Think about this bait. This is beautifully crafted.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It tastes like shit. Enough said.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    PUFA

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      f

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/heartbroken-dr-peat-has-passed.48635/

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it made me trans

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't ask questions

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    not stable, rapes your metabolism

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Since this is today's seed oil general. Do normal people not see the contradiction? Or do they not realize that seed oils are in processed food?

    >What even IS ultraprocessed food? As ANOTHER study warns of its dangers, MailOnline's guide will help you tell them apart

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11286753/What-ultraprocessed-food-MailOnlines-guide-help-tell-apart.html

    Then later on you have these recommendations. The contradiction is that the last few decades have seen saturated fat in processed food be replaced by seed oils. So even though processed food is worse for you now, to be healthy you should eat exactly the thing that is now in processed food?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't ask questions

      it made me trans

      https://i.imgur.com/tuZcNo2.jpg

      PUFA

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cocksucking canola shill

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            LDL + triglycerides = blocked arteries. You can't eat saturated fats while spiking triglycerides

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              bro what do you think sarurated fats are made of?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >calling Ray Peat ketoschizo
        moron, he was eating sugar like mad

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same logic with fried food. Why is fried not healthy? What is it fried in typically?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You are touching on something big.
      This could be a good meme.
      You are almost there.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      All you have to do to break a retards brain is ask them this; if seed oils are healthy, what makes fast food unhealthy?

      They will insist it's unhealthy because its deep fried, even tho the oil is supposedly healthy

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        McDonald's used to fry their goyslop in beef tallow instead of vegetable oil. Then they switched and suddenly people started getting fat.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is one of those times where muddying the waters is warranted. McDonald's have made so many changes beyond the fries that have contributed to the obesity epidemic. Nothing on a burger there resembles normal ingredients. I can only imagine that they are adulterating every single ingredient with vegetable oil:

          The cheese would be "american cheese", which is a combination of actual cheese and veg oil.
          The bread would use veg oil as an emulsifier.
          The meat would be emulsified meat, and they probably keep adding veg oil until some threshold where people notice.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This Sunday I made myself homemade fries fried in beef tallow, and oh my god it was so much better then regular fast food fries. It actually tasted like food, instead of cardboard.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      potato chips and fries literally contain just
      >potatoes
      >oil
      >salt
      what makes them fattening? the potatoes?
      even then, potatoes are a whole food, so wtf do they think it is?

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Humans only got it in low quantities directly from plants back 10s of thousands of years ago (in emergencies when they couldn't get meat, as plants are disgusting and a last resort to survive), not in concentrated form.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's like meth. It's not just bad because it's bad for you. It's also extremely cheap

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >meth is cheap
      Fucking where?

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It’s empty calories. Almost no nutrients or protein, and it’s not even remotely filling.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anything in abundance is bad for you.
    If it's in every single thing, it can't be good for you.
    Name one thing that in abundance has ever been good. One thing on this planet earth that you ingest if you ate it for every single meal would be a good thing.

    Fuck even fucking Colas have vegetable oil in them now.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brominated_vegetable_oil
    this shit right here was patented as a flame retardant and has been proven to cause numerous health problems.
    Fucking proven.

    It was not added to anything when I was a child in the 80s or 90s.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Potatoes for every meal is good for you

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >eating diabetes causing foods every day in abundance is good for you
        nah newfag nah, potatoes are one of the leading causes of insulin spikes after eating.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Insulin spikes are bad because...they just are okay
          Show me all the diabetes when potato was the staple food for entire countries

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Potatoes are a staple food for the entire country of USA. We eat them with almost every meal newfag.

            There is no easier way to spot a fatty or an eternal DYEL skinnyfat than when they're going on about shit like "insulin spikes". Insulin resistance, glucose intolerance and diabetes aren't caused by carbohydrates or insulin and insulin spikes aren't a bad thing unless you're a fatfuck diabetic, insulin is also anti-catabolic and anabolic. Type 2 diabetes can be cured by a diet of white rice and fruit in isolation.

            I can hear you breathing from miles away Anon.
            Put the potato down and go for a walk maybe fat boy.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah and when we eat them we get over half of the calories from sneed oils
              Potatoes are based and make you slim

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Potatoes are a staple food for the entire country of USA. We eat them with almost every meal newfag.
              How ironic you start implying others are fat when you're a disingenuous keto-lard that is scared of eating a potato or piece of fruit. Fries, chips and crisps and the other """carbs""" you go on about are so bastardised they can't be considered potatoes when they have more calories from FAT.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          There is no easier way to spot a fatty or an eternal DYEL skinnyfat than when they're going on about shit like "insulin spikes". Insulin resistance, glucose intolerance and diabetes aren't caused by carbohydrates or insulin and insulin spikes aren't a bad thing unless you're a fatfuck diabetic, insulin is also anti-catabolic and anabolic. Type 2 diabetes can be cured by a diet of white rice and fruit in isolation.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          it is linoleic acid that is the root problem

          that is what causes diabetes

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah and when we eat them we get over half of the calories from sneed oils
            Potatoes are based and make you slim

            https://i.imgur.com/fcMQkp8.png

            >Potatoes are a staple food for the entire country of USA. We eat them with almost every meal newfag.
            How ironic you start implying others are fat when you're a disingenuous keto-lard that is scared of eating a potato or piece of fruit. Fries, chips and crisps and the other """carbs""" you go on about are so bastardised they can't be considered potatoes when they have more calories from FAT.

            >coping this much to justify your obesity

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I actually have to overeat just to not be Auschwitz mode due to manual labor job (where I eat potatoes and meat as my lunch)
              Most civilizations subsisted on carbs without any obesity

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Most civilizations subsisted on carbs with terrible bone health, worse stature, and poorer quality of life than their hunter gatherer predecessors

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Please just waddle back to your /fat/ and /fast/ containment threads

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >L
                hold that champ

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I actually have to overeat just to not be Auschwitz mode due to manual labor job (where I eat potatoes and meat as my lunch)
                Most civilizations subsisted on carbs without any obesity

                you better take that L from the other Anon and fuck off fat boy.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >insulin spikes after eating
          Your insulin spikes after eating because you just ate, fucking retard. Insulin increases as part of digestion.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You need some insulin but you don't want too much unless you like having a fried kidney (Kimmelsteil Wilson)

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >potatoes and French fries are the same thing

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Name one thing that in abundance has ever been good. One thing on this planet earth that you ingest if you ate it for every single meal would be a good thing.
      Water.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not estrogen birth control city tap water tho

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        too much water will kill you

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Abundance and excess aren't the same.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Water
        Water is literally poisonous if ingested too often.
        Do you not understand how oxidation happens?
        Your body needs time to counteract oxidation caused by drinking water.
        Not to mention excessive mineral loss.

        [...]
        Guys, guys! Stop fighting! You're both fags

        not fooling me garden gnome.

        grass fed grass finished ribeye steak

        >excessive protein intake can't shut down kidneys
        sure kid

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      grass fed grass finished ribeye steak

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >what makes it so bad exactly?
    the fact that some mongoloids on ISTs IST board bitch and moan about it 24/7 and have nothing better to do.

    if they would find something else to complain about it wouldnt be bad at all.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Saturated fats (SFA) and monounsaturated fats (MUFA) are both pretty happy from an energetic perspective and won’t easily surrender any of their electrons to oxygen. But polyunsaturated fats (PUFA) are different. A free radical induced process called autoxidation leads them to become lipid peroxides, dangerous free radicals that can do damage to surrounding proteins and DNA. This is one of the reasons vegetable oils are high in vitamin E, an antioxidant. Antioxidants are “electron donors” and they step in to quickly give an electron to any superoxide molecules that come sniffing around to try to snatch an electron away from PUFA, thus stopping the PUFA from becoming oxidized.

    Nonetheless, the threat of PUFA becoming oxidized is always there and PUFA oxidation is undoubtedly a bad thing. Which is why animals don’t make PUFA.

    They are unhealthy because they contain large amounts of unstable fatty acids that can break down into toxins (you’ll see them referenced as PUFAs or polyunsaturated fatty acids). PUFA should not represent more than 10% of our diet because of this instability, and probably 4-5% would be better since that’s more in alignment with our historical intake.

    PLUS–these oils should not be heated!

    Because factory refining involves high heat, bottles of the Hateful 8 seed oils contain toxic compounds. And because foods cooked with seed oils contain even higher levels of toxins.

    Americans now get 80 percent of their fat calories from seed oils because they are an ingredient in most processed foods. This translates to about 15-30% of calories from PUFA, which is historically unprecedented. And way, way too much.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good post

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So does that mean I should not cook salmon or walnuts? I like to make fesenjoon which is a Persian dish that involves frying walnuts. you can literally see all the oils released from it in the process. Is this as bad as seed oils? Or is it different?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        no one is seriously asking you to completely remove something from your life, but you need to be mindful.

        If you're frying some walnuts that's not the same as concentrated straight fucking vegetable oil.
        you know how many walnuts are required to make one tablespoon of walnut oil that has already been through a refinery process?

        It takes one cup of any nut to make about 2/3 a cup of any nut butter.
        Further refinery drops this down to about 1/3-1/2 a cup.

        So every time you are cooking with nut oils you're ingesting almost double the amount of oil you should be ingesting.

        Vegetable oil is even worse because it's not as dense, fucking vegetable oil is like multiple cups for 1/3rd a cup of oil.
        That's not how humans were meant to ingest plant based oils.
        No human was designed on the planet to sit there and eat plant oils like that.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I agree with you, but devil's advocate: I don't think humans were designed to eat the engorged seed of grasses that are then beaten, winnowed, pulverized to powder, mixed with water, digested by yeast, and baked at 350° for an hour either. Yet whole civilizations have subsisted on it for millennia.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            And it was a nutritional disaster for all of them, what with getting several inches shorter and having their teeth rot out of their skulls.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I’d say wait a millennia and see how humans raised on seed oils turn out, but the early data does not look promising

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      what are these toxic compounds generated by PUFAs? What papers did you pull this from? Actually curious not memeing

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        First paragraph bro.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          anon a free radical can be pretty much anything. Shit your mitochondria produces the most amount of free radicals because of how ATP pumping works

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        4-Hydroxynonenal or shortly HNE is a toxin that is a byproduct of linoleic acid oxidation. This is why french fries are so fattening. HNE breaks the fat cells and causes oxidative stress, inflammation and insulin resitance.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      People used to know frying is bad, but somehow that got lost over time. A factory oil with barely any nutrients, full of saturated risky fat is being boiled out of all nutrients into toxic fat and seeping into your food.
      When burgers came every single food has to have topping, sauces, salad has to have dressing.
      People used to eat this shit with barely any factory made additives and were much better health-wise for it.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't really know but I cut it out and have been losing ~1lb/week with no effort. I still get to eat carbs unlike the ketoschizos so works great.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The biggest dietary change I made between the time I was a massive fatass and now is removing almost all fat from my diet. It makes weight loss effortless. You're never hungry when you eat starchy carbs like potato, lentils, or oatmeal.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        And I have over 300 confirmed kills, with 3 weed smoking girlfriends. Post body.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I already have on other posts and I'll save the trouble. I'm 150lbs and look like a dyel. Is it really hard to believe that losing weight is as easy as not eating the most calorie dense food known to mankind? Honestly how stupid are people?

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it’s hidden in almost all ultraprocessed foods. so cutting it out by definition one would be eating more whole foods and less junk

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There is too much PUFA in things like conventional fatty pork and chicken too though so make sure to cut that stuff out too

      No pork bacon, no lard, no chicken thigh, no farmed fish or eggs

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Retard post

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It all comes down to chemical bonding of PUFA. Look up chemical bonds of polyunsaturated vs saturated fats. PUFA has an angled shape which gives it lower smoking point. It means frying it is bad, it'll chemically change into rancid fat when cooked. There's a bit more going on relating to omega 6 and omega 3 ratio but I know less about it. I believe cooking fish is fine, despite it is full of PUFA. But cooking seed oils is not because the ratios of omega 6 to omega 3 are bad. So eating fried seed oils is eating rancid fat.

    Only cook in olive oil, coconut oil, avocado oil, or animal fat.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you're going to use coconut oil, you should also use butter/clarified butter/ghee.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's instability leads to oxidative damage and inflammation.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's good for you. 8 glasses a day for max longevity

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Idk, it works pretty good on my bicycle chain

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pufa has lower melting point and goes rancid more easily. Look at your bottle of oil. It's sticky near the mouth, that's oxidized oil. If you have a bottle of coconut oil, it's not oxidized. Why do coconuts have saturated fats and seeds pufa? Because seeds sprout in cold spring mornings, while coconuts grow in the tropics, if seeds had coconut oil they would turn solid and not work, and if coconuts had seed oil they would go rancid very easily. If you or a cow or a mouse eats a carb, you turn that into saturated fat, because your inside is as hot as the tropics. A fish has more pufa because they live in the cold waters. If your body makes saturated fats, it's probably a good idea to not consume too much of PUFA.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sunburn quickly? Blame the PUFA stored under your skin

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      WTF I didn't store my oil there!

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw saturated fat is so evil even a tiny amount in that fast food meal can overpower all that Heart Healthy seed oils

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I hate this fucker so much

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why? He's a prime example of the power of veganism. Here he is at age 47, looking older than my 68 year old dad and somehow the opposite of skinnyfat, where his body clearly looks fat but he also looks like an anemic twig.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            They always look jaundiced.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I love vegan low fat high carb diet people, but holy shit he looks like a pillow stuffed into an empty shirt. His fat belly is so weird too. And to think I was considering caving on some fats because of his articles. The proof is in the pudding. Do not add fat to your diet unless you want this kind of body.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Probably the legumes and indigestable fiber he adds to his diet that makes him bloated.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Just to play devil's advocate, we don't know what he might look like on a regular diet. Perhaps he has awful genes and would look even worse if he wasn't vegan.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is it normal for vegans to be against saturated fat? Seems like a recipe for disaster considering they are already handicapped by the lack of meat

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They often think the intake should be zero, especially that guy right there
        Even though they can get it from 100% dark chocolate which has been shown to have positive effects on heart health but shhh

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        a lot of them believe that.
        Remember there has never been a replicated study done by any vegan proving any of the "many health benefits". Not one single study.
        Namely because their claims are so outlandish in every study that it's insane to replicate.
        There was once a time where arguing for vegetarian/limited meat diets as a could thing.
        However straight vegan? Phtt.
        One study showed a 9% death rate across the board for all causes of death.
        What they didn't account for in the study was the law of diminishing returns.
        That at 85 years old a 9% decrease in cause of death when you're still at greater than 10% cause of death on a given day doesn't mean fucking much. That every day your personal genetics determines everything.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Looking into the data you notice how much of a mess nutrition "science" is in general
          Fucking shame

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yep.
            Alternatively look at the other argument.
            >BUT IT'S A 9% REDUCTION IN DEATH
            >I'm 35 years old, I run and eat a moderate diet and the odds of me dying today are 0.0000000001%.

            It's one of those things that doesn't matter until it fucking matters big time. You can spend 99% of your life never needing to eat vegan until you're literally almost on your death bed and at which point that diet only adds like a few months/years to your life. Because we don't calculate death chance just based off your age.

            Chance of death is calculated by every day.
            Humidity, pressure, did you eat too much/not enough the day before. Did you get enough sleep/too much sleep. Literally every factor you can imagine goes into your death probability on a given day and that "vegan" shilled diet while applicable and arguably somewhat better than a heavy meat and grease diet. Well, it really just doesn't matter that much to the countless other factors on a given day.

            Here is an interesting homework project for you.
            Why don't you look at the leading causes of death in vegans.
            Also try to understand their coping for why cancer, heart disease, liver disease, diabetes is still on the rise in vegans (despite the fact they cut that evil meat out of their diet).
            Because while it might be somewhat slower than meat eaters in some regards, all causes of death are still on the rise in vegans.
            This is only increasing as more people turn to veganism also.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Looking into the data you notice how much of a mess nutrition "science" is in general
              Fucking shame

              >Here is an interesting homework project for you.
              Don't literally do this. I'll just tell you.

              The reason is because originally healthy people turned to veganism because they thought it would make them even healthier.
              Logical fallacy, they were ALREADY healthy.
              Now that the average person is trying veganism on for size we are getting results that veganism is not all that healthy or atleast not as healthy as ~~*they*~~ keep pushing it.

              Because these people are unhealthy we get the results that slowly show that their death rates aren't equalling out to the previous generation vegan death rates.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Probably the worst thing about vegans is when they hear about someone who has to eat a very specific way like paleo/carnivore etc due to allergies and autoimmune problems, or people who get deficiencies without meat no matter what they do, then still decide to preach about how they're clogging their arteries and how they just didn't try hard enough to be vegan
              Like motherfucker they've got no choice, even if that was true their health will still be better served by not being in constant inflammation all day

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nivek Ogre from Skinny Puppy had to switch from veganism to a more balance approach because of this. While he still limits his meat intake, he found a lot of the vegan foods that were available to him to be extremely aggravating on his stomach.
                SP's wrote multiple CDs against animal cruelty and testing (ViVisectVI for reference). So I'd assume he felt very strongly and probably didn't like that he had to eat meat, but as you said what fucking choice did he have?
                His health rapidly returned to normality upon trying the balanced approach and he has refined it from there.

                I agree 100% they take it too seriously. Excessive meat intake can be curbed and should be, it's wasteful. You've got people trying to go over .9g/lb of protein daily when it's been proven to almost all be wasted. Hell even above .7g/lb protein is extremely wasteful. Most of it gets pissed out above this. However ethically there is a huge difference between i'm going to eat this entire deer because fuck you and i'm going to eat a portion of this deer and either freeze the rest for another day or give it away.

                However like everything the moderate approach will get me hated by both sides. Vegans and carnivores alike will flood in to tell me i'm wrong despite limited to no evidence that I am.

                I digress, enjoy your meat anon, but do consider if you can better optimize your meal in regards to protein efficiency.
                Back to the vegan argument, there is no argument meat is bad for your health in moderation. Moderated meat intake has more evidence to health and happiness into old age than either extreme.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              From what Ive heard, higher protein intake is actually beneficial for elderly, because as you age, you will start losing more and more muscle, which makes you basically immobile at certain point, amd being active and mobile is extremely important for longevity.
              IIRC Attia talked about this.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Each is a specific case.
                I've read a few articles on what you're talking about and "high protein" is anything above .5g/lb. As this is what is considered the minimal protein intake to maintain muscle mass. So arguing even .6g/lb would be beneficial. A large counterargument to this though is the failing digestive facilities of the elderly. Acid Reflux, constipation, ulcers, etc. Heavy meat is very very hard on the elderly.
                So it's kind of like pick your battle you know?
                It's just one of those sad things where we are trying to fight death and we get a step up, but there is no winning the war.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Heavy meat is very very hard on the elderly.
                Source: my ass

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                you might want to know what you're talking about before arguing with me guy.
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4546438/
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6371116/
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8746799/
                These are just a few of many, many citations, literally dozens if not hundreds of citations.
                You will read each and everyone entirely before responding to me.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >swallowing is... Le hard!!
                Lmao should have made esophagus gains

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You did not read them entirely if that's all you got out of that shitposter.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                To be fair, one of them is literally just "old people are at risk of choking", which obviously isn't the same thing as "old people can't digest meat"

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It has way more to do with just choking.
                It talked in depth about the actual process of eating meat being a difficulty in itself.
                Read the study.
                And also don't blatantly ignore the other two or the countless others you can find yourself with minimal effort on your part.

                Heavy meat consumption is very difficult for the elderly. From the point of just chewing, to swallowing, to digestion, to passing it.
                No where did I say elderly can not eat meat, but shitposting that it's easy on their bodies is a flat out lie.

                You think miralax is in every old persons house for no reason?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >here, just read three 40-page articles
                How about you cite the relevant passages that identify meat as being uniquely hard for old people to digest.
                Clue: you can't, because old people find EVERYTHING harder to digest.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                not my fault you're incapable of reading anon.
                seriously fix your fucking life.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                not my fault you're incapable of reading anon.
                seriously fix your fucking life.

                Guys, guys! Stop fighting! You're both fags

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Did you get enough sleep/too much sleep
              And this is like the number one thing that does you in, rest and relaxation are incredibly important compared to diet but this is almost always ignored.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Also try to understand their coping for why cancer, heart disease, liver disease, diabetes is still on the rise in vegans (despite the fact they cut that evil meat out of their diet).
              Tons of vegans drink alcohol, smoke, and eat all kinds of processed junk food anon. This is such a useless label if you're trying to prove something. I'd argue that most people that say they are vegans are actually eating a lot of fatty processed foods. There's also a large chunk of them that say they are vegan and eat meat. I do not say I am vegan. I eat meat once a week at most and stick to an almost entirely plant based diet with very little fat in it. I can tell you that most people do not do this. They talk a lot, but simply eat garbage.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Does any of that matter if the argument is "veganism > any amount of meat eating."
                Which is the argument m8.

                In which case no, eating vegan is not healthier than eating any amount of meat.
                Once again almost all the early studies done on vegans were people that were already health focused and they were always healthier on average than the average population before they even switched to veganism.

                The modern vegan has shown an increase in all causes of death and disease. Which means it is not the miracle diet they were shilling it as.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        i really don't understand this tbh, things like coconut oil and cocoa fats have been shown to be beneficial yet there seems to be an agenda against them even among vegans

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Its not supposed to make sense, it's just blind hate against animal products by brainwashed vegan moralizers
          Just like that Greger study is so blatantly dishonest, but he doesn't give a shit because he's promoting an agenda.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            i really don't understand this tbh, things like coconut oil and cocoa fats have been shown to be beneficial yet there seems to be an agenda against them even among vegans

            Explanation: it's solely your mentally ill fantasy that the only people who could possibly be against your retarded seed oil hysteria are vegans. Now it makes total sense why we also don't recommend coconut or palm oils due to their high saturated fat contents.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

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  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Behold, diabetes

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah now multiple those portions by about 50 and post body you fat shit.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        So eating several times your required intake gives you diabetes? I hate potatoes now!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      NOOOO THE PUFA AND CARBS AND LECTINS
      But yeah nobodies getting fat on this, ultimately so long as you don't eat completely unnaturally with fried and processed foods your metabolism should be fine
      Despite its normalisation in burger land, diabetes really isn't just something that happens

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        10.5% of USA's population has diabetes.
        Europes average is 10.3%
        You can act like it's an American thing, but it's rising at the same rate worldwide.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Well worldwide is becoming America in diet
          Though not in quantity
          It's probably due to shit we can't control too tbf, pollutants and chemicals and general degrading quality

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Well worldwide is becoming America in diet
            So either the rest of the world is lying about their diet or the rest of the world is becoming just as diabetic outside of food reasons.
            Because the average Euro shill promises they eat better.

            The better answer is physical activity is on the decline across the world.
            Diabetes correlation is almost exclusive to lack of activity. Which allows chronically high insulin levels to stay elevated.
            While exercise changes how the muscles absorb glucose and puts them in a state where they become more sensitive to insulin for up to 24 hours in some recorded cases.

            The problem is that general exercise does not cause this interaction, just weightlifting or walking for instance does not stimulate the muscles enough to promote this process.
            It correlates with either hypertrophy/high intensity exercises. Which rapidly delete glucose levels and force the muscles in such a state.

            You can find references when putting in google "interactions between insulin and exercise"
            Generally food has little do do with this.
            Some foods rapidly spike insulin, some foods slowly spike insulin. Some foods just spike insulin a little, but multiple foods in this compound the issue.

            Activity is the one thing that seems to be missing. Heavy, draining activity.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Europes average is 10.3%
          it's fucking ogre

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    sneed

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Im not eating your goyslop oil you garden gnome

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing. You can scour as many seed oil schizo videos on youtube as you want and won’t find a single one showing COMPARATIVE STUDIES to saturated fat because those undermine all the fear mongering they do. Also Nina Teicholtz and Chris Knobbe are funded by cattle industry.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh yeah bro it's not like there's a $100b seed oil industry with a sense of self preservation.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Seed oil schizos never present studies comparing health effects of animal fat and seed oils because seed oils are proven healthier every time. Instead they use scary words like industrial and show scary biochemistry diagrams with more scary words like peroxide and oxidation. That’s how they scare the heck out of average idiot.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          People used to know frying is bad, but somehow that got lost over time. A factory oil with barely any nutrients, full of saturated risky fat is being boiled out of all nutrients into toxic fat and seeping into your food.
          When burgers came every single food has to have topping, sauces, salad has to have dressing.
          People used to eat this shit with barely any factory made additives and were much better health-wise for it.

          Finally some people talking sense

          Can you fact-check this post

          https://i.imgur.com/dAFaROo.jpg

          Since this is today's seed oil general. Do normal people not see the contradiction? Or do they not realize that seed oils are in processed food?

          >What even IS ultraprocessed food? As ANOTHER study warns of its dangers, MailOnline's guide will help you tell them apart

          https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11286753/What-ultraprocessed-food-MailOnlines-guide-help-tell-apart.html

          Then later on you have these recommendations. The contradiction is that the last few decades have seen saturated fat in processed food be replaced by seed oils. So even though processed food is worse for you now, to be healthy you should eat exactly the thing that is now in processed food?

          If processed food is bad for people, but vegetable oil is good for people, why is processed food full of so much vegetable oil? Are companies acting in our best interests to try to reduce saturated fat and replace it with heart healthy fats, but gosh darn it people just keep eating too much?

          Can you think of any other ways that these companies can help us by adding vegetable oil to our diets without our knowledge?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Animal fat has a ton of pufa. Chicken and pigs especially (guess what's cheap in the grocery store?) The things with the least amount of PUFA are olive oil (MUFA) which is considered in the mainstream to be healthy and coconut oil (saturated fat) which is proven to not cause obesity after they attempted to fatten pigs with them.
          https://portal.nifa.usda.gov/web/crisprojectpages/1009363-effects-of-coconut-oil-feed-additive-on-growth-performance-immune-function-and-metabolism-in-post-weanling-piglets.html

          Just because *you* do no research beyond youtube videos from chiropractors and cultists doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Pork fat has a bad PUFA ratio but most unsaturated is oleic so in the end only 10% is sneed oil PUFA. Even that 10% is better than most types of sneed oil. Easy to balance if you eat fish.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Pork fat has a bad PUFA ratio
              Depends entirely on what the pig is fed.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            There's different kinds of PUFA. Omega 6 to 3 ratio is what matters. That's what makes Sneed oils bad as opposed to salmon of avocado.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Fish oil is even more unstable than omega 6, since lipid peroxidation index is directly proportionate to the degree of unsaturation of the fat.
              Fish oil can have potent immuno-supressing effects in the short-term due to the omega 6:3 ratio, but in the long-term the omega 3's are going to oxidize and cause rebound of inflammation making the situation even worse.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Hypothetically, what if instead of eating 500 calories of seed oils a day or eating 500 calories of lard/butter a day, we just didn’t do either one of those things?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            americans probably had a heart attack reading this lol

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You get screeched at as if leaving added fat out of your diet means you'll never get fat from anything else you eat.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >NOOOOO WHAT ABOUT LE STUDIES!!
      don't care, if my grandparents and their parents could live through their 90s without any civilised disease while casually using this then there's no reason to avoid it, simple as

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do you want to guess why it looks like piss?

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It tastes like rancid ass.
    I really don't understand how people can have that in their diet, especially after going so long without any modern seed oils it just jumps at you if you eat at a poor quality restaurant or happen to eat some ready-made garbage filled with it. Tastes like shit.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Peak nocebo. Vegetable oils are so used in food industry exactly because unlike saturated fat, they don't go rancid nearly as easily. But because you are hysterical gullible idiots, it only took one or two youtube videos to be totally convinced it's all rancid industrial waste. So convinced you can now even taste it whereas all your life before those videos you ate the processed foods as happily as everyone else. You're the kind of people who suddenly want sex reassignment surgery after reading trans tales at tumblr.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Vegetable oils are so used in food industry exactly because unlike saturated fat, they don't go rancid nearly as easily
        Uh oh vegan-sisters...
        >>

        https://i.imgur.com/YngUhFk.png

        You are touching on something big.
        This could be a good meme.
        You are almost there.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Vegetable oils are so used in food industry exactly because unlike saturated fat, they don't go rancid nearly as easily.
          Lmao it's literally the exact opposite you retard. The c=c double bonds of PUFAs make them go rancid much more easily than the fully saturated carbon bonds in SFA. Where the fuck did you learn organic chemistry? Because you should ask for a refund.
          I think you've mixed up SFA and trans fats. Trans fats are artificially saturated PUFAs, wherein you bubble hydrogen gas through an unsaturated fatty acid to saturate the c=c double bonds, increasing the shelf life by reducing the rate at which it oxidises.

          I don't know any organic chemistry but I do know if you leave butter on table it goes rancid overnight but if you leave canola on table it goes rancid over several months and even then only if you allow sunlight to hit it. I doubt you schizos know organic chemistry either. Just repeating talking points that may or may not be relevant or even factual.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >but I do know if you leave butter on table it goes rancid overnight
            No you don't know shit.
            Butter can be left out for months depending on the room temperature.
            And guess what - it's not the saturated fat in the butter that goes rancid - it's the tiny amounts of polyunsaturated fats that go rancid.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Canola doesn't turn sour tasting like butter left on counter so there goes your explanation that it was pufas all along out the window. Something is wrong with your brain.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You are a dumb gay who seriously thought that butter goes rancid in one day.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That dumb picture is from fake data and the study that is linked was debunked here
                https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/2016/04/13/diet-heart-ramsden-mce-bmj-comments/

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                False.

                Correct me if im wrong but it sounds like the canola oil process only becomes fucked to get the last few % of the oil out? They get something like 60-70 from just crushing then they add all the retarded cancer petrolum shit to get the remaining, so canola COULD be healthy but they have to garden gnome it all up

                No polyunsaturated fats are inherently inflammatory.
                The reason for the entire omega 6:omega 3 hype is that omega 6 is well known to cause all sorts of inflammation and disease.
                It makes much more sense to lower omega 6 than to take scammy fish pills, but it's bad for business to tell people to stop eating fast food.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/5ji7qWH.jpg

                >Literally all the seed oil scare talking points you guys are repeating come from the mouth of Nina Teicholz
                no, try again shekelnose

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >False.
                you posted the same unsourced false data study that was debunked here in harvard

                That dumb picture is from fake data and the study that is linked was debunked here
                https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/2016/04/13/diet-heart-ramsden-mce-bmj-comments/

                Also pic related, luckily reality is different from your fantasy

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's been debunked already.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                hmm no sweaty

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Bot

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                First of all, your graph is not from a study, is from a random website, not even a journal, is just a random retards claiming correlation = causation, comparing cherry picked poor european countries and cherry picking random rich european countries
                Pic related is an actual study, the more saturated fat, the more heart disease death
                >but then there is is a french paradox!
                Debunked in this study
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1115846/pdf/1471.pdf
                The reason is simply because france underreported deaths from heart disease

                https://i.imgur.com/XmS1PbC.gif

                >checks the actual research cited by thi PUFA shill
                >it's written by a literal fucking ching chong
                >a literal fucking questionnaire is used to gather data
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5123772/#!po=29.6610
                here's the research btw

                >At baseline, participants with higher SFA and MUFA intakes had higher levels of BMI, total energy intake, and dietary cholesterol intake, but were less likely to be physically active, use multivitamin and vitamin E supplementations, and report histories of hypercholesterolemia and hypertension (Table 1). The prevalence of current smoking was higher among men with higher SFA and MUFA intakes. Women with higher intakes of SFA, PUFA and MUFA were generally older. When substituted for total carbohydrate, a higher intake of SFA was associated with a slightly higher total mortality
                >The prevalence of current smoking was higher among men with higher SFA and MUFA intakes.
                >a higher intake of SFA was associated with a slightly higher total mortality

                >nazi
                lel

                https://i.imgur.com/KPU7TQz.jpg

                this is from the study in your pic btw

                Ok here's a systematic review of cohort studies which reaches the same conclusion
                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25161045/
                >These data provide support for current recommendations to replace saturated fat with polyunsaturated fat for primary prevention of CHD.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                forgot the pic from the good old french paradox myth
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1768013/
                and the debunk of the french paradox is in this post

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                massaging the data
                Why do you seethe so hard when people eat cheese?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ah yes we should trust Incel Keys who has "curated" the data for us, by deleting data points until the data fit his agenda.

                You have to debunk the Dutch paradox, the Israeli paradox, the Finland paradox, ... actually it is a European paradox.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                not an argument, there's no such thing as paradox, see

                First of all, your graph is not from a study, is from a random website, not even a journal, is just a random retards claiming correlation = causation, comparing cherry picked poor european countries and cherry picking random rich european countries
                Pic related is an actual study, the more saturated fat, the more heart disease death
                >but then there is is a french paradox!
                Debunked in this study
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1115846/pdf/1471.pdf
                The reason is simply because france underreported deaths from heart disease
                [...]
                >nazi
                lel
                [...]
                Ok here's a systematic review of cohort studies which reaches the same conclusion
                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25161045/
                >These data provide support for current recommendations to replace saturated fat with polyunsaturated fat for primary prevention of CHD.

                and

                https://i.imgur.com/Gt7oDJq.png

                forgot the pic from the good old french paradox myth
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1768013/
                and the debunk of the french paradox is in this post

                More saturated fat is more heart disease

                https://i.imgur.com/VmxUkXn.png

                massaging the data
                Why do you seethe so hard when people eat cheese?

                >study of one country from cheese intake
                irrelevant also debunked here

                https://i.imgur.com/0X7fwBW.jpg

                Ok whatever here's meta analysis of cohort studies study on the saturated fats from meats in particular
                https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/179/3/282/103471?login=false
                >These results indicate that high consumption of red meat, especially processed meat, may increase all-cause mortality.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Mic debunks himself by being a frail low T vegan, with eyes that make him look like his liver is failing.

                Is it possible to eat saturated fat on a vegan diet? Coconut oil is the only saturated non-animal fat I can think of.

                Which implies that vegans have a vested interest in people being poisoned by seed oils

                There are a lot of traditional diets that are very heavy in coconut oil.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >mic the vegan
                >frail, low T
                >obviously elevated stress hormones and anxious demeanor
                >eyes indicating poor liver function
                >uses a makeup filter to cover acne caused by his seed oil diet
                >whiny voice indicating low male sex characteristics

                Not convincing anyone but yourself anon.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >low T
                he debunks that one here

                The rest of your claims are dumb

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                He can't debunk what I see with my eyes and hear with my ears.
                His is a low T manlet, with anxiety, acne, and a feminized s'oy voice.
                His voice is high pitched like a woman.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                He's tall though and söy does not give you estrogen nor decreases your testosterone lel
                see

                >low T
                he debunks that one here

                The rest of your claims are dumb

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh anon,
                You have a very selective curation in the studies you look at.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                söybean oil =/= söy, fats in general are all bad for liver disease and vegans in general have less rates of diabetes, you can look it up yourself, such as the Seven day adventists in the US

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I AM NOT A ONIONS BOY!!!!!! posing and talking in the most feminine way possible

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This guy is never going to convince that he is more masculine than me.
                Never.
                Like its just so obvious looking at him speak.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                this is from the study in your pic btw

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Canola tastes bad to begin with.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I buy canola oil and use it to keepy tools from rusting and to clean my cast iron but I don't eat it because it isn't food.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Butter spoils because of the milk protein/sugar, ghee which is just pure butterfat is fine

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The canola oil has already gone rancid during production and they have to chemically treat it to remove the horrible bitter smells and tastes.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Butter takes two weeks to go bad and if you clarify it it takes several months. To clarify butter you just boil off the water and then scoop off the protien strands which bubble into a white foam. You can eat the protien and if you want to use it you can add it to mashed potatoes. Then once you pour the gold stuff into a jar you are left with pure butterfats. If you salt this it lasts even longer. The smoke point is also high enough to fry with if you do this.

            I buy kerrys gold when it goes on sale at costco. Sale price is generally $8.60/2lbs and I buy 8lbs worth. Then I make 2 quarts of this stuff and use the other 4lbs of butter as butter.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Forgot pic
              2lb of kerrys gold makes nearly a quart of clarified butter. When it isn't on sale I buy the new zealand grassfed butter there.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nice it looks like your bloodwork too.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                As opposed to garbage oils?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Butter takes two weeks to go bad
              It's highly dependent on the room temperature.
              If it's 30C temperature it will only last 2 weeks to turn sour.
              If it's 15C it can last months.

              [...]
              I don't know any organic chemistry but I do know if you leave butter on table it goes rancid overnight but if you leave canola on table it goes rancid over several months and even then only if you allow sunlight to hit it. I doubt you schizos know organic chemistry either. Just repeating talking points that may or may not be relevant or even factual.

              >even then only if you allow sunlight to hit it.
              Funny because saturated fat doesn't oxidize from sunlight. Only PUFA does.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't know any organic chemistry
            Yeah I could tell.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Holy shit im surprised no one is even mentioning this yet... all the seed oils you buy ARE ALREADY RANCID LMFAO. SEED OILS ARE LITTERARLY MADE RANCID IN THEIR PRODUCTION PROCESS THEN DEODORIZED AND CLEANED LMFAO. You cannot cold press seed oils... this is marketing BULLSHIT adopted from oils like live and coconut where the oil is literally pressed out of the fruit flesh... pressing seeds is nothing like this.

            The reason its harder for your seed oils to noticeably go rancid is because they already are... also why they have a higher smoke point. they have been temperature oxidized at least 1x in their production before you ever buy one

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Vegetable oils are so used in food industry exactly because unlike saturated fat, they don't go rancid nearly as easily.
        Lmao it's literally the exact opposite you retard. The c=c double bonds of PUFAs make them go rancid much more easily than the fully saturated carbon bonds in SFA. Where the fuck did you learn organic chemistry? Because you should ask for a refund.
        I think you've mixed up SFA and trans fats. Trans fats are artificially saturated PUFAs, wherein you bubble hydrogen gas through an unsaturated fatty acid to saturate the c=c double bonds, increasing the shelf life by reducing the rate at which it oxidises.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I worked this shit out in 2012
        now you are suddenly pro vegetable oil because of some videos on youtube lmao

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Have you ever eaten those shitty mass produced pies at your local grocery store anon? My inlaws fucking love them. Trust me when I tell you that you can taste the fucking gross oil when you don't eat it at home.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    are soibeans vegetables?

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Literally gasoline for humans.

    You can live just drinking this stuff.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Prove it. I'll even accept a YouTube journal where you do this for a year. Nothing but vegetable oil.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The oil garden gnome shilling is real. What's their agenda?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Please understand that the seed oil hysteria was started by Nina Teicholz in this video. Nina Teicholz is an actual garden gnome. How and by who she has been funded throughout the years has never been disclosed. An actual garden gnome with obfuscated shadow money. You're barking the wrong tree, anon.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >in this video
        Peat was writing on vegetable oils since at least the 80's you decaffeinated twink

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          look how blatant these shills are lol
          think boys - why would certain people get so annoyed if the goyim decide they DON'T want to cook their food in industrial waste anymore

          Literally all the seed oil scare talking points you guys are repeating come from the mouth of Nina Teicholz, a garden gnome with shadow funding. Do not ignore that fact.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nope, it's coming from peat, sworn enemy to the CIA

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              F

              The canola oil has already gone rancid during production and they have to chemically treat it to remove the horrible bitter smells and tastes.

              Yep canola oil started off rancid. Bad comparison.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Literally all the seed oil scare talking points you guys are repeating come from the mouth of Nina Teicholz
            no, try again shekelnose

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        look how blatant these shills are lol
        think boys - why would certain people get so annoyed if the goyim decide they DON'T want to cook their food in industrial waste anymore

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Essau’s gambit in full display, nice try garden gnome. Shouldn’t you be goyslopping rn?

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Transexual fat

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tastes bad

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >what makes it so bad exactly?
    I don't know, I just realized that I get short of breath/congested when I consume anything fried or cooked in it, so I stopped.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >veggie/ "seed" oils give me bad tummy aches
    >saturated oils give me weird chest pains
    >olive, sesame, coconut (i know), avocado, and peanut oil have never once failed me
    I don't need studies lol... Also who the fuck adds oil to their food? Just use an oil spray and then eat cheese or something for more food.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >believe in evolution of the modern human taking place over hundreds of thousands of years at least
    >believe in enzymes
    >also believe that the most species appropriate and nutrient dense foodstuff that a human being can consume is industrial waste created within the last century

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Doctor just took a nickel sized glob of plaque out of my right carotid. I'm 43. I took the keto pill and ate a shit ton of seed oils. Don't do it bros.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ketones are cardio protective

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Stupid ipleb

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How did you find out about the plaque? I got an ekg and they said it was perfect but i want a thorough heart checkout

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think getting your cac score done is the best way. Picks up calcification in your arteries. Should be 0 if you're under 30. I'm 34 and thinking of getting it done because heart disease is in my family.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not surprising. My father did the Atkin's diet decades ago and it's practically identical to what most keto people are eating now. It put him in the hospital. I tell people, but they just want to keep eating piles of meat and fat. Nothing I can do.

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Correct me if im wrong but it sounds like the canola oil process only becomes fucked to get the last few % of the oil out? They get something like 60-70 from just crushing then they add all the retarded cancer petrolum shit to get the remaining, so canola COULD be healthy but they have to garden gnome it all up

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >checks the actual research cited by thi PUFA shill
    >it's written by a literal fucking ching chong
    >a literal fucking questionnaire is used to gather data
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5123772/#!po=29.6610
    here's the research btw

    >At baseline, participants with higher SFA and MUFA intakes had higher levels of BMI, total energy intake, and dietary cholesterol intake, but were less likely to be physically active, use multivitamin and vitamin E supplementations, and report histories of hypercholesterolemia and hypertension (Table 1). The prevalence of current smoking was higher among men with higher SFA and MUFA intakes. Women with higher intakes of SFA, PUFA and MUFA were generally older. When substituted for total carbohydrate, a higher intake of SFA was associated with a slightly higher total mortality
    >The prevalence of current smoking was higher among men with higher SFA and MUFA intakes.
    >a higher intake of SFA was associated with a slightly higher total mortality

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it possible to eat saturated fat on a vegan diet? Coconut oil is the only saturated non-animal fat I can think of.

    Which implies that vegans have a vested interest in people being poisoned by seed oils

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the generic vegan foods do not have saturated fat.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The body naturally turns excess carbs into saturated fat.

        not an argument, there's no such thing as paradox, see[...] and[...]
        More saturated fat is more heart disease
        [...]
        >study of one country from cheese intake
        irrelevant also debunked here

        [...]
        Ok whatever here's meta analysis of cohort studies study on the saturated fats from meats in particular
        https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/179/3/282/103471?login=false
        >These results indicate that high consumption of red meat, especially processed meat, may increase all-cause mortality.

        >meta analysis of cohort studies
        Literally the lowest quality of evidence.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Literally the lowest quality of evidence.
          False, they are the same of quality as randomized and non randomized trials. Aso not argument
          > The typical Inuit diet is high in protein and very high in fat – in their traditional diets, Inuit consumed an average of 75% of their daily energy intake from fat.[88]
          >Modern Inuit have lifespans 12 to 15 years shorter than the average Canadian's, which is thought to be influenced by factors such as their diet[97] and limited access to medical services.[98] The life expectancy gap is not closing and remains stagnant.[98][99][100]
          That's what happens when most of your energy intake comes from saturated fats

          https://i.imgur.com/yQzFMr1.jpg

          Mic debunks himself by being a frail low T vegan, with eyes that make him look like his liver is failing.

          [...]
          There are a lot of traditional diets that are very heavy in coconut oil.

          not argument also your pic retarded, see

          https://i.imgur.com/Gt7oDJq.png

          forgot the pic from the good old french paradox myth
          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1768013/
          and the debunk of the french paradox is in this post

          this one uses 40 countries
          also pic related some vegans

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            are roids vegan?

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So all this time we thought it was paid shills from the seed oil industry and its just some lunatic vegan. Christ who even cares what vegans think. At least when it was paid shills it was vaguely like when the CIA followed Peat but this is just lame, like getting stuck in a conversation with some cat lady at a supermarket.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      McDougall will outlive peat

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        11 years to go and he looks worse for the wear than peat 5 years ago

        Also peat was assassinated by the CIA by smoke inhalation (smoke is estrogenic)

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          back of a tiger reeks of a glowie project, prove me wrong

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Everyone interviewed in that documentary is now dead except for gerard pollack

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How am I supposed to fry my chicken fillet without oil. Even on air fryer that shit goes dry.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Use ghee or tallow.

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The fact that amerimutts are gulping down a liter of that shit every day.

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I chug like seven of these a day straight up, I haven't had a solid shit in years. It helps me express my chudgayism while I wear things that disturb most people in public.

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    olive oil and meat fats are the only fats you need

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I only eat foods mentioned in the bible and roman scriptures

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Linoleate is the most abundant fatty acid in many seed oils. Linoleate can either feed other fatty acid metabolic pathways, or will be turned into a arachidonate, a pro-inflammatory prostaglandin. eicosapentaeonate is an anti-inflammatory prostaglandin but only plants have the ability to process linoleate into a non-inflammatory byproduct. So by eating constant high quantities of seed oils you are promoting your body to have more inflammatory singalling molecules, which can and WILL lead to inflammation. Inflammation leads to insulin resistance, insulin resistance leads to diabetes / metabolic syndrome X, and so on.

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