What percentage of?

What percentage of ISTizens do you think actually do make it?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    bout tree fiddy

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    10-20.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah about there of the ones that do lift. I think most people are here to off-topic post or trying find some magic diet that will let them live forever and not get fat. So it's probably even lower if you're going purely on this board's total users. I think that the ones that do lift usually fall for trying to do over specialized body building before they've done beginner routines or fall for the typical pitfalls like recomp or the fake natties shilling kettlebells, calisthenics and db only routines (before they've done basic barbell training).

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This , Im coming here for off topic and the vibes...
      Gave up on lifting years back , now just focus on nutrition mainly , old habits.
      But its very personal because "making it" is different from Anon to Anon mainly....

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    20% fully make it

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe 10-15%.
    And by "making it" I mean:
    >80-90% natty peak <15%bf all year round
    >married with a loving wife and kidd
    >debt free with own place/car and a monthly salary of at least 3x national average

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ><15%bf all year round
      why would anyone want this

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Say you are 200 lbs at 12% (24 lbs of fat). You eat a smallish surplus and train hard with the overall aim to gain 1% of your starting body weight (just to make the math easier) per month, or 2 lbs. Some of that will be lean mass, some of that will be muscle. Lets say conservatively you only manage to add 0.5 lbs of lean mass per month and 1.5 lbs is fat.
        Probably the ratio would be better than that, but even in that scenario you could still bulk for about five months before you hit 15% body fat. You'd weigh 210 lbs and have about 31.5 lbs of fat. It would take you about seven weeks to cut back down to 12% at a 500 cal/day deficit, which is pretty easy.
        That's all assuming everything goes perfectly, which it won't, but still seems fine to me. There's no reason to blow the frick up fat-wise during bulk phases with massive surpluses. You can look pretty good year-round and still get stronger over time. Maybe its an issue if you want to get as big as you can as fast as you can, but then you should probably be on gear.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Because there is no reason whatsoever to be over 15%.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm between 8-10% bf year round and I can maintain it pretty easily, never even been higher than 15% probably. Did a few weeks of bulking with 3800-4500kcal a day before going to Thailand, eating around 2500kcal a day for 3 weeks and am now visibly leaner, my fingers have visible veins. Now eating around 3000kcal since I never gained weight eating 4k kcal

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If this is your indicator of "making it", I would say it's less than 1% of anons

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Everyone does that though.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If that is your definition of making it, then it is almost everyone.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on what making it means to you
    To me, anyone who has "made it" has embraced some semblance of a normal life, shed the shackles of autism, and freed themselves of this place.
    Therefore, anyone who is a ISTizen has not made it - for if they had, they would not be here, and be a ISTizen no longer

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Well, the question ‘What percentage actually do make it?’ begs the question, ‘What do you mean by it?’.

    Because when you’re dealing with fundamental realities and you pose a question, you have to understand that the reality of the concepts of your question, when you’re digging that deep, are just as questionable as what you’re questioning.

    So people say to me ‘What percentage actually do make it?’ And I think, ‘OK, there’s a couple of mysteries in that question – what do you mean ‘actually’? What do you mean ‘do’? What do you mean ‘make’? And what do you mean ‘it’?

    And you say, as the questioner, well we already know what all those things mean except belief in making it and I think, ‘No! If we’re gonna get down to the fundamental brass tacks, we don’t really know what any of those things mean.

  7. 1 month ago
    Shaman of /fit/

    I had sex with a girl that looked like this once.

    The condom broke and I ended up cumming inside of her pussy, so for round two she let me take it off and bust inside again.

    I ended up catching chlamydia from her, and she gaslit me about it. Also felt like she was lying about being in an open relationship because I got the sense that she was mad cheating.

    Definitely a sociopath, and kinda scary tbqh. She told me how she tried to make mescaline in her room in high school.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How can i detect sociopaths? I admit i have some narcisssitic tendencies but im not a fullblown narcissist

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's quite hard to identify legit sociopaths, especially before they are in your life fricking shit up. They are by definition manipulative, and good at it. They know right from wrong—they just don't care—know how to fake emotions, tell you what you want to hear, perfectly happy with lying, etc. Best thing you can do is learn to not blindly trust everyone as soon as you meet them. You can make them earn your trust while still being respectful/not being a dickhead.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks
          I will keep that in mind

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Do they have any distinct physical features , eyes , facial expressions or something?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you can tell from their eyes

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Sociopaths don't exist at all. It's junk from early psychiatry that only stuck around in pop culture because of fictional movies much like multiple personality disorder. It just doesn't exist.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Aspd is what its called i believe

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Anti-social personality disorder is prison people shit. It is beyond rare they have anything resembling a functional existence in society.

      • 1 month ago
        Shaman of /fit/ LISTEN TO ME IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT

        In general? Before you interact with / get to know someone? Best advice I can give is to look into their eyes but that requires experience which ideally you don't want.

        In the case of this girl it was pretty clear to me from early on that she was an expert manipulator. Coulda just been a narcissist, but idk.

        At the time I fricked this girl, I was living next to someone who had probably been a grower for the cartel, and did some nasty things in my backyard that he probably filmed through the window.

        However, one time after fricking I had her come hang out with me topless on the patio. She had great boobs and we chilled there smoking weed, and talking while he got an eyeful. After that he gave me a nod of respect next time I saw him. So, I owe her for that.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      People into cuck fetishes are usually sociopaths

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You can never know because they won't be here anymore. I read the post of cancer anon yesterday and it made me realize what a waste of time this is. Yet here I am.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Zero. No one here actually lifts.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Zero. No one makes it anymore.
    The absolute best is copesex.
    >I get to have sex
    And you will never have teenage romance
    >I did have it
    No you didn’t or else you wouldn’t be here. If you fricked it up and lost it, then you’ve fallen off the wagon. If you married your middle school sweetheart. Why the hell are you on 4trans?
    So no you didn’t make it. No one makes it.
    These people pretend to be well adjusted as a form of cope.

    Your life sucks.
    My life sucks.
    If you aren’t going to rope and you’re going to live then at least live courageously and confront the reality you’re a failure.
    Things won’t get better ever. Your limited time only slips away. But you can stop it from getting worse.
    And you can earn others before they follow in footsteps.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    100%

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I certainly haven't made it.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    60%, some of you guys are actually handsome looking it’s just the sperg level social skills. I know because I’m like that as well.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I have a 7.5 inch dick. No woman has ever seen it.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Out of the entire male population, like 15% are fit.
    Out of the entire male population, 5% make it.
    Do that math.
    (I used google to get the stats, so someone do that math.)

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone who chooses to make it will make it. But you have to make that choice every day.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    30% make it
    05% fail to make it due to genetics
    64% fail to make it due to falling for memes
    01% not only make it but makes the process of making it look easy, and I really hope that one percent is you, the one reading this.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Like 5%, the other 95% are manlets that think marrying a blown out 3/10 roastie and getting cucked daily while she steals his betabux is an accomplishment. I guess for a halfman it is

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Like 5%
      Yeah, I think this too, so this means out of the entire male population, and out of that entire population that are fit, 1 percent of IST makes it.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    sauce on the brown b***h?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      remigumi

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    100% of the ones who try

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >be typical IST loser
    >want gf/respect/mask tism/whatever
    >invest time and effort into looksmaxxing for 5ish years
    >get some b***hes but still have no substance as a person or anything to be proud of
    >just a loser with access to pussy
    this was the path i took. i certainly didn't make it but i did get a taste of what i wanted.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Im 33 and a failo. Fitness did improve my life considerably, however, this is still not enough to make it. The bar just gets higher and higher. I would say about other anons are correct, most of use dont ever make it.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    All of the one that actually want it and have faith in themselves
    WAGMI

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    100% because we're all gonna make it

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Zero. This website is brainpoison.
    If you're still here after more than two years, you're NGMI

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What is your idea of making it? We have to have a definition. Lets do very vague goals for example.
    >60k+ income
    >Don't live with parents
    >Mentally sound
    >GF
    I would prob say around 20-30% will get all of these. One or two of these I would say 40%.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >income
      ok israelite

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