Children are ultrafucked. 1990s kids don't even hold a candle to 2010s kids. Imagine growing up with a smartphone in your face 24/7, never having any IRL friends, all of your critical developmental years spent consuming corporate advertisements and social media algorithms.
The number one problem is accessibility of high energy food. Obesity indicators are lagging indicators because you don't become obese from one lil Debbie binge. You get it from weeks that become months that becomes years of overfeeding and energy excess. Other than Trans fats and low exercise, the other things you listed aren't causal to obesity, they are side effects to the accessibility of food and bloating of the food industry.
The old American food pyramid had carbs on the bottom. Everyone got fatter, America just did it a little faster. Probably because the US is an agricultural and food science powerhouse. That's why there are thousands of McDonald's, pizza Hut's, and burger kings in the UK, but no Greggs in the US.
That's why you buy your Nestle goyslop at Trader Joe's and Lidl. >That's why there are thousands of McDonald's, pizza Hut's, and burger kings in the UK, but no Greggs in the US.
The reason is not why you think it is. It's because most European nations literally just don't care about fast food chains. There just are none. If e.g. Italy cared about them, you'd expect them to have a fifth of the number of native chains, and individual fast food joints, as the US.
>It's because most European nations literally just don't care about fast food chains
Interesting how much money they make in Europe for a population that doesn't eat at them. Do you suspect billions of dollars of laundering money by fast food corps?
i learned my lesson and buy superior products but the poor should not be punished for their poverty anon
Agreed and Agreed but what is the solution? Be poor enough and you get SNAP benefits with a higher cash value than a middle class person's grocery budget. What do they buy? The cheaper options. Should corn syrup be banned for the people's own good? What will be the next frankingredient those pesky food scientists come up with to replace it?
>Do you suspect billions of dollars of laundering money by fast food corps?
Money laundering has to occur somewhere with Ukraine out of the picture for now.
the only realistic option i can think of is to spread awareness. people need to realize that industrial additives encourage obesity like they were made to understand that smoking causes lung cancer
but youre right man they buy the slop themselves
I wonder why I was never fat as a kid, despite eating shitty foods like cereal and mcdicks all the time. I'm still not fat to this day either. Why is this?
I literally grew up on junk food but we played outside on our BMX bicycles all day terrorizing the neighborhood instead of sitting in a dark room playing video games and jerking off to weird cartoons for 18 hours a day since age 7
here's another thread where we blame everything except the fat lazy pigs who shovel to much food into their faces >muh food pyramid
literally nobody in the history of the world ever paid attention to a government published dietary meme.
The number of people who looked at the food pyramid cartoon they showed us in school and said "I need to eat 4 more servings of grains today" is literally zero.
Over half of the homo sapiens alive at this moment aren't truly sentient, or experience only fleeting periods of sentience and real self-determination during their lives
This is how it's always been and how it will always be
Without strong, sensible bumper rails in place (societal taboos on eating garbage and strong sensible laws regulating food production/sale), most people will end up being gutterballs
1. Overwork the wage slaves until they're too lazy to cook their own food then offer them cut rate garbage that is fattening and as well has other addicting attributes and chemicals thus ensuring they're more likely to continue purchasing these products.
2. Make sure to spend some of your profits on supporting far right politicians so that then when schools try and remove big gulp sodas from the cafeteria they'll willingly go on a "free market free choice" tirade for you.
All 3 of those things are true in Japan and Korea, and yet fats are low. Those things are not true in many western european countries, yet they still got fatter and fatter
I've lived in Asia, the big difference between here and there is honestly shame. People will fat shame you openly. You are taught that you are to be ashamed of not living up to your potential.
Western countries have delusions of exceptionalism rolled into individual personalities, so that doesn't work here. Simple.
american food is poisonous >be me >buy kielbasa sausage at the store >go home and check ingredients on a whim >first ingredient after the meat is high fructose corn syrup
Yes and no. The cheaper option uses cheap ingredients like HFCS in order to stay the cheaper version. There are infinite foods in the US with normal and elite ingredients, but you decided to buy the cheaper sausage. People who are not concerned about health but their limited means will buy the cheaper food option when available to them.
some of them most certainly should be punished. i agree is hard out there now and the system is stacked against us but alot of poor people are poor becuase they are scum
american food is poisonous >be me >buy kielbasa sausage at the store >go home and check ingredients on a whim >first ingredient after the meat is high fructose corn syrup
they fill pur food with actual industrial level poison so our dopamine center lights up when we eat it. but not because its healthy and satiating but because its an insulin high
the united states government is a genuinely evil institution that is poisoning its population on purpose. for control and profit and probably just for evil's sake
add to that the intentionally false and harmful diet system that was taught to every american
One of the main reasons nobody talks about is... Overwork. People work more and have less down time at work then their predecessors. Technology made us restless, and as a result after a long stressful day just getting fast food seems like the easy way out. Interestingly Asia doesn't have this problem because their cheap and easy food options are low calorie.
>What the FUCK happened?
the internet happened, people used to be out everyday walking, talking, playing sports, etc... now much of the socializing is done online and rarely people actually meet in person, so i blame internet and social media addiction for this.. they should levy a special tax on social media platforms and other useless apps like gaming stores and other useless shit, make it an higher vat, something ridiculous like 33%, people that buy that shit should pay for it dearly
But anon, I was an internet (runescape) addict in my younger years, but I still managed to play sports, and play outside with my bros every day somehow. Am I an anomaly?
the "food environment" aka little to no regulation on either the federal board side or the consumer side so you have retards and illegals eating absolute garbage with promote companies to then produce and expand more garbage. If you ask me besides soda, sugar in ketchup and bread was one of the major catalysts for the whole packaged food industry to start dumping cheap sugars into everything. Collectively everyone's pallet got use to the sugar so they would have to put in equal amounts or more sugar to not taste bland.
big sugar brainwashing people to believe that sugary cereals are healthy for you.
decreasing wages and longer working hours leading to cheap, unhealthy fast food becoming a staple of the american diet.
>industrial waste marketed as food >pesticide runoff and microplastics in the water >mediated society >constantly being bombarded with high frequency EMF
And much more but don't forget calories in calories out, hit your macros and take a multi vitamin :^)
>sneeds >junk food scientifically made and scientifically advertised >rise of food delivery (when I was a kid you could only get chinese food or pizza delivered and you had to call, now you can click a few buttons and get almost any type of food delivered) >more idle entertainment (when I was a kid I got like 3 video games a year and the tv only had good shows on at certain times. These days you could waste your entire life cycling between youtube/netflix/social media/free video games)
In some ways its not even the fault of people getting fat, the world is structured in a way that pushes you to overeating and undermoving, but obviously thin/fit people still exist so you just have to avoid the gnomish tricks
food pyramid, margarine, HFCS, seed oils, sedentary life encouraged in children.
Children are ultrafucked. 1990s kids don't even hold a candle to 2010s kids. Imagine growing up with a smartphone in your face 24/7, never having any IRL friends, all of your critical developmental years spent consuming corporate advertisements and social media algorithms.
Not to mention those poor fucks doing school via zoom. So much excess virginity.
Did I mention carbs were bad?
The number one problem is accessibility of high energy food. Obesity indicators are lagging indicators because you don't become obese from one lil Debbie binge. You get it from weeks that become months that becomes years of overfeeding and energy excess. Other than Trans fats and low exercise, the other things you listed aren't causal to obesity, they are side effects to the accessibility of food and bloating of the food industry.
every country have an food pyramid equivalent
doesn't explain why america got specially fatter than the rest of the world
also, isn't like people follow dietary/medical advice anyway
The old American food pyramid had carbs on the bottom. Everyone got fatter, America just did it a little faster. Probably because the US is an agricultural and food science powerhouse. That's why there are thousands of McDonald's, pizza Hut's, and burger kings in the UK, but no Greggs in the US.
>The old American food pyramid had carbs on the bottom
Americans did not follow the food pyramid.
they taught it to me when I was 6 years old. Im sorry I wasnt cynical enough back then
That's why you buy your Nestle goyslop at Trader Joe's and Lidl.
>That's why there are thousands of McDonald's, pizza Hut's, and burger kings in the UK, but no Greggs in the US.
The reason is not why you think it is. It's because most European nations literally just don't care about fast food chains. There just are none. If e.g. Italy cared about them, you'd expect them to have a fifth of the number of native chains, and individual fast food joints, as the US.
>It's because most European nations literally just don't care about fast food chains
Interesting how much money they make in Europe for a population that doesn't eat at them. Do you suspect billions of dollars of laundering money by fast food corps?
Agreed and Agreed but what is the solution? Be poor enough and you get SNAP benefits with a higher cash value than a middle class person's grocery budget. What do they buy? The cheaper options. Should corn syrup be banned for the people's own good? What will be the next frankingredient those pesky food scientists come up with to replace it?
>Do you suspect billions of dollars of laundering money by fast food corps?
Money laundering has to occur somewhere with Ukraine out of the picture for now.
the only realistic option i can think of is to spread awareness. people need to realize that industrial additives encourage obesity like they were made to understand that smoking causes lung cancer
but youre right man they buy the slop themselves
I wonder why I was never fat as a kid, despite eating shitty foods like cereal and mcdicks all the time. I'm still not fat to this day either. Why is this?
>Why is this?
You burned more calories than you consumed.
True. I did play outside for hours almost every day for hours on end. Shame I don't see kids playing outside anymore...
>t. born in 1996
I literally grew up on junk food but we played outside on our BMX bicycles all day terrorizing the neighborhood instead of sitting in a dark room playing video games and jerking off to weird cartoons for 18 hours a day since age 7
Actually retarded.
here's another thread where we blame everything except the fat lazy pigs who shovel to much food into their faces
>muh food pyramid
literally nobody in the history of the world ever paid attention to a government published dietary meme.
The number of people who looked at the food pyramid cartoon they showed us in school and said "I need to eat 4 more servings of grains today" is literally zero.
Over half of the homo sapiens alive at this moment aren't truly sentient, or experience only fleeting periods of sentience and real self-determination during their lives
This is how it's always been and how it will always be
Without strong, sensible bumper rails in place (societal taboos on eating garbage and strong sensible laws regulating food production/sale), most people will end up being gutterballs
I would make the argument its less than 10% of humans are sentient
People ate too much and moved too little
Dietary changes include corn subsidies and sneed oils.
Societal changes include the internet.
fear of fat causing heart attacks so companies replaced the fat with carbs which turns out is super addictive and worse for your health.
garden gnomes
High cortisol, low GABA.
excessive caloric intake. can't believe we're having this thread again.
that and prices for unhealthy goods have only gotten worst
yeah, like everyone here says, ultraprocessed fast food, snack food, alcohol, displacing any good real food.
sad really
internetcomputer (ironically and unironically)
Actually it was the popularization of the cell phone.
Genetics.
Environment.
Hyper-capitalist obesegenic society?
Seriously.
1. Overwork the wage slaves until they're too lazy to cook their own food then offer them cut rate garbage that is fattening and as well has other addicting attributes and chemicals thus ensuring they're more likely to continue purchasing these products.
2. Make sure to spend some of your profits on supporting far right politicians so that then when schools try and remove big gulp sodas from the cafeteria they'll willingly go on a "free market free choice" tirade for you.
3. Profit.
All 3 of those things are true in Japan and Korea, and yet fats are low. Those things are not true in many western european countries, yet they still got fatter and fatter
I've lived in Asia, the big difference between here and there is honestly shame. People will fat shame you openly. You are taught that you are to be ashamed of not living up to your potential.
Western countries have delusions of exceptionalism rolled into individual personalities, so that doesn't work here. Simple.
True. Perceptive.
Yes and no. The cheaper option uses cheap ingredients like HFCS in order to stay the cheaper version. There are infinite foods in the US with normal and elite ingredients, but you decided to buy the cheaper sausage. People who are not concerned about health but their limited means will buy the cheaper food option when available to them.
i learned my lesson and buy superior products but the poor should not be punished for their poverty anon
some of them most certainly should be punished. i agree is hard out there now and the system is stacked against us but alot of poor people are poor becuase they are scum
american food is poisonous
>be me
>buy kielbasa sausage at the store
>go home and check ingredients on a whim
>first ingredient after the meat is high fructose corn syrup
>high fructose corn syrup
>in meat
uhhh wtf bro?
they fill pur food with actual industrial level poison so our dopamine center lights up when we eat it. but not because its healthy and satiating but because its an insulin high
the united states government is a genuinely evil institution that is poisoning its population on purpose. for control and profit and probably just for evil's sake
add to that the intentionally false and harmful diet system that was taught to every american
There's sunflower oil in the goat cheese I just bought. They'll stick anything in anything.
have a nice day commie gay
One of the main reasons nobody talks about is... Overwork. People work more and have less down time at work then their predecessors. Technology made us restless, and as a result after a long stressful day just getting fast food seems like the easy way out. Interestingly Asia doesn't have this problem because their cheap and easy food options are low calorie.
>People work more and have less down time at work then their predecessors
this a bullshit lie!
Anti-bullying.
>What the FUCK happened?
the internet happened, people used to be out everyday walking, talking, playing sports, etc... now much of the socializing is done online and rarely people actually meet in person, so i blame internet and social media addiction for this.. they should levy a special tax on social media platforms and other useless apps like gaming stores and other useless shit, make it an higher vat, something ridiculous like 33%, people that buy that shit should pay for it dearly
But anon, I was an internet (runescape) addict in my younger years, but I still managed to play sports, and play outside with my bros every day somehow. Am I an anomaly?
>everyone drinks soda or some kind of sugary drink
>no one cooks anymore so everyone eats readily available sugary and fatty, calorie dense food
Internet and smart phones happened.
the "food environment" aka little to no regulation on either the federal board side or the consumer side so you have retards and illegals eating absolute garbage with promote companies to then produce and expand more garbage. If you ask me besides soda, sugar in ketchup and bread was one of the major catalysts for the whole packaged food industry to start dumping cheap sugars into everything. Collectively everyone's pallet got use to the sugar so they would have to put in equal amounts or more sugar to not taste bland.
big sugar brainwashing people to believe that sugary cereals are healthy for you.
decreasing wages and longer working hours leading to cheap, unhealthy fast food becoming a staple of the american diet.
>industrial waste marketed as food
>pesticide runoff and microplastics in the water
>mediated society
>constantly being bombarded with high frequency EMF
And much more but don't forget calories in calories out, hit your macros and take a multi vitamin :^)
garden gnomes
Why are people fat now? Because 20 years ago punishment was being sent to your room, now it’s a reward
>sneeds
>junk food scientifically made and scientifically advertised
>rise of food delivery (when I was a kid you could only get chinese food or pizza delivered and you had to call, now you can click a few buttons and get almost any type of food delivered)
>more idle entertainment (when I was a kid I got like 3 video games a year and the tv only had good shows on at certain times. These days you could waste your entire life cycling between youtube/netflix/social media/free video games)
In some ways its not even the fault of people getting fat, the world is structured in a way that pushes you to overeating and undermoving, but obviously thin/fit people still exist so you just have to avoid the gnomish tricks
Food pyramid happened to me. Im just one number on that graph, but I ate a lot of bread cause they told me to. They got me good
You got fat because you shoveled to many calories into your foodhole, not because you ate bread