What's the best martial art for actually handling a real fight?

What's the best martial art for actually handling a real fight?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I like Muay Thai. Elbows and knees hurt.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    gun

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Knifes would be better in a hand to hand situation. Good portion of fights start with a sucker punch. A trained cop needs 21 ft of distance to be able to take out a loaded gun and shoot it without being tackled by a running assailant. A knife can just be taken out and swun much more easily.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >swun
        Swung*

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        A trained cop would have to rack the slide because they don't keep a round in chamber

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        If you kill with a knife in self defence it's much harder to defend in court hence a gun is better

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Don´t get caught. Turn your phone off, run away, get rid of your cloth and the knife. Don´t kill people who know you and don´t run into places with many people.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Either you are trolling or you have 0 understanding how cell towers work

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              if your phone is off, they can´t track you. They also need proof, that you killed the robber with your knife.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                We got mastermind criminal over here. Stabs people in broad daylight and doesn't afraid of anything

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                His phone is off so the police can't track him, he's actually a genius.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        That rule involves the man with the knife being shot EVERY time, and assumes the man with the gun does not move or use their off hand to defend. It also assumes the man with the knife is already running at the start.

        Knives are shit.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The “21ft rule” is a myth based on a misunderstanding about a training exercise where they shoot from 21ft away. Even if this were exclusively the situation in which one would need a weapon, a gun would be better than a knife. There is almost no situation in which it would be worse to have a gun than a knife.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Unless of course you don't know your way around guns in which case you should die anyway

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Knife is the WORST self-defense tool ever, period for legal implications alone. Better to carry any heavy metal object, like a multitool, or I dunno a fricking wrench

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Knives are good in that any idiot can use them. But guns and blunt metal objects are better.

        Movies have made knives into anime swords though. A ball-pen hammer is a lot more effective. One swing to the dome and you’re out. Any movie where they use knives in stealth missions is moronic.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Cops recieve no training, a second draw time is slow and no criminal is crossing 21ft in a second.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on definition of "handle", and how much experience the opponent has

    For like 99% of people who have no training and the goal is to clean their clock, basic boxing is all you really need

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yup. Ironically the more familiar you are with martial arts, the more difficult it can be in a real fight with an untrained person because they won’t move or act like your competitors at all. Most people don’t even know how to punch, so knowing the fundamentals puts you far ahead of at least 80% of them

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    100 yd dash

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Muay Thai + BJJ + Greco Roman wrestling

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    As someone who has trained and competed in many different martial arts over the course of my life, I would say kickboxing/muay Thai. I think it's better than boxing because of leg kicks, anybody can throw a punch but when leg kicks are involved, its throw them off guard. One good leg kick would put someone on their ass pretty quick. I would also recommend training MMA style BJJ no gi grappling so you're not completely clueless on the ground but I would not recommend resorting to it unless it is a 1v1 fight. I don't recommend training sport BJJ because Pulling guard and trying to get a Dela heva is going to get your head stomped in.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      leg kicks are against the rules in street fights, the referee will step in

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >anybody can throw a punch
      Most people can’t

      Also have fun getting thrown on your ass when you throw a bad kick, or worse, fight someone who knows what their doing enough to catch your leg and frick up your knee

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Lmao, any half ass competent kickboxer is not going to throw a kick slow enough/telegraphed for you catch their leg. Go to a MMA/kickboxing gym and try to reach for their leg. See how it works out for you

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Yea just ignore the thousands of kicks thrown by professional fighters that have been caught. You really think your slow ass or some other average person is going to do better? Outside of a handful of people who have been training well over a decade I’ll sure as shit snap your leg if you throw a mid to high kick at me and I catch. This is advice for the average person, stop pretending everyone is throwing the fastest kicks.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You don't even have to throw kicks fast to catch people with them. There's tons of ways to set up kicks. Angles so you can't see it coming, combos, feinting with a question mark kick etc. Thinking you you're just gonna do something in a fight vs actually training to do it is. So no you're not just gonna catch it

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Oh and once your knee is smashed you’re fricked unless you have a gun. Can still move and fight with a fricked arm/hand. Good luck doing that one the ground with one good leg

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah it's pretty funny when people say they're just going to grab the leg when somebody tries to kick them. That's like saying I'm gonna just grab the person's arm when they try to punch me. But oh well, I love being able to catch untrained people with questions mark kicks

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Have yet to ever see a hand get grabbed while punching, have seen countless legs grabs. Keep coping

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              No you haven't.

              https://youtube.com/shorts/QCvzmm-Jmtk?feature=share
              The issue is you have to train to catch kicks just like you have to train to throw kicks. You are not going to just catch a kick. The only thing that works in fights is muscle memory. You have never seen people grab a leg outside of an mma/ufc context because they aren't trained to catch kicks and sweep. The notion that you're just gonna do this or do that is just your ego

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Throwing leg kicks in a MMA fight is fine, because most opponents are going to just check it and respect your counter punch, because they're fighting for multiple rounds and not just going all in every attack.

      But throwing leg kicks in a street fight is just damn stupid. If you throw a leg kick at some rando off the street, most likely they're just immediately going to bum rush through it and shove you down on your ass, and then congrats you're dead!

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        T. Doesnt know what a well timed and placed leg kick feels like
        Also dont bother answering me with your LARP of someone who trained and competed in amateur boxing and kickboxing for 10 years, i love how everyone on IST did it

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        People don't usually bum rush. They swang & bang with their arms out and their heads back.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Boxing. Condition your hands to hit without gloves on, and know what areas of the body to hit with a close fist without breaking your hands. Open palm strikes to the head or other bony areas are best. A solid palm strike to the temple or jaw can frick someone up (assuming you’re not a DYEL) even with their guard up. Look up Bas Rutten’s fighting style for reference. morons talking about kicking, BJJ, karate, or Krav Maga are clueless. Kicking in a real fight should be used sparingly as it makes you extremely vulnerable (if I catch your leg I can break it or throw your ass on the ground, it takes you off balance while you’re kicking, etc), Karate is mostly for show, BJJ is great when you’re on the ground or for submissions, but you don’t want to be on the ground at all in a real fight so it should only be a last resort, and Krav Maga is barely even useful for a real knife fight. You don’t want to get in a knife fight btw even if you’re seriously skilled you’ll likely get stabbed and cut a few times it’s a shit situation to be in. All of this isn’t even factoring in a scenario in which there are multiple people or you are taken by surprise, both of which are more likely to happen. At least know the basics of punching/submissions, and carry a gun or knife.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      assuming nobody is going to walk up and stomp on your head while you’re on the ground probably traditional wrestling. Otherwise I would say that the 100 metre dash mogs.

      karate is perfectly fine if it’s not a meme dojo though, what do you have against the art performed properly?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Is there any martial art that would help in a fight with multiple people? I went to a few self-defense classes after I got mugged by a couple of people but when I asked the instructor about this, the question seemed to piss him off and he left it unanswered. I feel the only thing that helped me with mugging (hard neighbourhood) was putting on a good few pounds and not walking like a potential victim.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Judo is pretty cool
    Yeah, in the sport you throw them on their back and they don't get hurt, but IRL you can just as easily throw them on their face into the concrete

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    what is a real fight? You mean MMA in an octagon with a ref? Surely you don't consider yelling and fumbling around with Black folk out in civilized public for no reason a 'real fight,' right?

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Gun
    Running Away

    But I still train Combat Sambo/Judo

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    One striking art(boxing, kickboxing muay thai) and one grappling art(wrestling, bjj, Sambo) and judo is optional. Most mma has all these things included. So do mma. Me personally I like boxing and little kickboxing and regular wrestling.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The real answer is any that has you sparring regularly. Really, it doesn't matter. When you get in an actual fight, you're going to rely on instinct and if you can default to any moves that actually work and are more efficient than just throwing haymakers, you'll wipe the floor with anyone unless they're way above your weight class.

    Muay Thai, BJJ, Boxing, whatever. It doesn't matter. Do what you enjoy. You could make arguments for one being better than the other but really you're way more likely to come across somebody who has minimal training than end up in some Youtube video titled "BJJ VS MUAY THAI STREET FIGHT".

    >t. bouncer

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Even sparring is debatable. I’m very nice while sparring compared to a real fight as anyone would be. Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t fight unless it’s in self defense or I intend to practically kill the person. I won’t bother if the cause of the fight doesn’t make it worth severely injuring them. For example in a real fight I’m gouging eyes, breaking bones, kicking balls, and smashing faces into walls. Obviously nothing even close to that happens while sparring, but it does at least get you more familiar with how to move.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Spoken like someone that has never lived in a BJJ ghetto.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Marksmanship

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Just keep your hands up and protect your head and neck. That’s all you need. Ideally you’d also want to avoid street fights all together.

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Boxing

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Boxing and Wrestling are all you need

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Wrestling, but none of that gay olympic shit I mean real WWE. Someone gets up in your face just mug for the camera like you don't even see them while your tag partner sneaks up behind and sets them up for the table top.

  18. 1 year ago
    Ghetto Alpha Turk

    Striking art (Muay Thai, Boxing) + Ground/ grappling art (Wrestling, Judo, Bjj)

    It’s well accepted that boxing + wrestling is likely the best combination for a street fight
    But you should be aware that you potentially could kill someone with a takedown on concrete

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Foot -> Dick
    Fist -> Throat
    Nuts -> Forehead

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    My 45 makes the Black folk skrrt skrrt.
    No seriously, don't live around ghetto's.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Shotokan and Muay Thai. I’m undefeated.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Being a well-balanced person who can avoid conflict, deescalate it if it comes, or just smash some fool's head in when there is no other choice. The one serious fight I've ever been in, I
    >spat in the guy's face to blind him
    >kicked him in the sack as hard as i could
    >then slammed his head into the wall behind him repeatedly until he collapsed
    because if I hadn't, he would've used his height and weight advantages to slaughter me. He started it, I tried to walk, and he wouldn't let me.

    But that's fighting for survival in reality. To prep for that, train in any system you enjoy (savate, boxing, kickboxing, etc.) and recognize that many of those rules will not apply when you get into it for real. My own background was in boxing.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >I trained in the deadliest martial arts for 20 years and I carry a knife I'm about to frick you u-ACK

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      just try it on yourself twice after that it wont shoot you down

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      based

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Oh that's an actual police officer. Saw a shorter webm where he just looked like a security guard, was thinking he was doing too much for that position.

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    martial arts train movements and real fights wont wait for your kata or well placed elbow. do boxing and focus on not getting knocked the frick out, standing there and being able to move facing the coin tosses of death without tripping on your opponent's foot is the best you are going to be on martial arts. scientifically speaking, if you are not paralyzed, cant get knocked out and can keep hitting your opponent as you can, what are you even doing wrong, while you still have energy. so just do boxing, think mike tyson peekaboo style, hitting and trying to not get hit.

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The real benefit of muay thai in a street fight is the ability to effectively throw knees and elbows in a clinch. And for this reason it mogs all other martial arts for use in a real fight.
    Prove me wrong.

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Wrestling. Shooting a single or double and landing ground & pound is devastating against 99% of the population that doesn't train.

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Lethwei, muay thai, sambo, jiu-jitsu, boxing are all great. Theres really no "best" one. If you train hard and consistently and its not some dogmatic shit like kung fu then it will work. I did a bunch of tae kwon do as a kid and when i turned 14 i started at a gym with a bunch of lethwei and muay thai guys and they all fricked me up. I stuck with it though and now i have a nice blend of muay thai, lethwei and TKD.

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    imo if you have practiced boxing, muay thai, or wrestling and aren't in horrific shape as far as cardio is concerned then those are the best odds you're going to get. the thing that surprised me most about boxing was how fricking exhausting it is and how the average untrained person will be gassed very quickly and therefore susceptible to getting wrecked by the other guy
    so i guess cardio is the best martial art, lol

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    3 solid ones here: wrestling, boxing, Muay Thai
    Wrestling lets you KO people easily
    Boxing is for being able to handle punches and being able to clean them out
    Muay Thai is just boxing+, it’s boxing + kicks, and allows you to be more lethal with kicks, etc.

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Jerking off in the middle of a fight

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >come near me and I'll shoot!
      Kek. People would more more worried about being jizzed on than shot by a gun for sure.

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Boxing and Muay Thai. I don't think it matters which order you do them in (could also do both at once but that might get expensive and time-consuming).
    Just remember that irl the best option is almost always to flee, no martial arts will teach you how to dodge knives/bullets, and you are extremely unlikely to ever win against a group.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      I'd say combine muay thai and bjj and you're pretty much covered against normies for life
      That said, as this anon said too, the best defense os to avoid getting yourself into a fight.
      There are plenty of examples of pro fighters that got fricked up because someone pulled a gun outta nowhere or someone bashed them from behind with a piece of wood or something.
      Fighting on the streets is a lottery 100% of the time no matter how prepared you are

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        just to illustrate what I was talking about
        Guy that got fricked up was a pro MMA fighter
        Deserved what he got for punching someone's gf anyway

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Boxing, you want to keep distance, not get down on the ground, BJJ is useless because of that, in a real fight if you go down you’ll end up with your eyes being gouged out, that’s assuming that you don’t get kicked by his mates or stabbed.

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >For 1 on 1 encounters:
    A combination of BJJ, Wrestling and Judo. In a real world fight, everything is going to happen in less than 10 seconds. In all likelihood, the only thing your opponent knows how to do is throw a few wild haymakers at your head and hope he knocks you out before he runs out of gas. If you can get him on the ground and control his arms, he's probably going to be helpless. This video is a good example. Black kid is tough shit when he's throwing punches, but helpless as a toddler as soon as the white guy grabs him and he can't throw no more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGIVCD8lBH0

    >For 1 vs. a group encounters:
    #1 is knowing how to run the frick away as fast as you can.
    #2 if you can't run, is probably just boxing. If you go to the ground against multiple opponents, then you are basically dead. You have to stay on your feet, stick and move as much as possible, be explosive and overwhelming, and try to end it as quick as possible. The guy in this video is probably the perfect example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rA3M9i74lY

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Depends, sometimes a fight is a friend or family member who is starting dumb shit with you so you would just want to take him down and controk him, and sometimes its a guy sucker punching you in a bar where you will want good boxing muscle memory and reflexes to avoid his following strikes and knock his ass out as quick as possible
    So the answer for you questions is both grappling and striking

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Any martial art that will let you spar in a non-bullshit way. Just regularly sparring and conditioning your body to these physical situations will make you better at fighting than 99% of people.

    If you think martial arts will help you win a street fight you are dreaming. Just run away or carry a gun. Although learning how to grapple can help you better draw and use your weapon if you are being attacked.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Any martial art that will let you spar in a non-bullshit way. Just regularly sparring and conditioning your body to these physical situations will make you better at fighting than 99% of people.
      Fricking true. Karate is actually good if your instructor has you doing regular bouts, and vice versa MMA and boxing is shit if your instructor doesn't. Its all about practice.

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    That's like asking what video game best prepares you for war

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Self defence, ranked by effectiveness, from my experience as an mma fighter:
    1. not being a moronic mouthbreathing ape that gets into fights in the first place
    2. running away
    3. gun
    4. pepper spray
    5. closed range weapons
    6.Wrestling/bjj/Judo
    7.any striking
    Striking gets more effective than grappling if you also know grappling, but choosing only one, I’d go with no gi Bjj every day. I don’t know why people here have the misconception that Bjj guys want to be on their backs. Everything is designed to get you in mount, aka on top of your opponent, and you don’t need to be Mike Tyson to pummel someone from there

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Secret Nanba Tai Chun Woo.

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Before I answe, how many street fights were you guys in?

    Me: 8

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      3

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