What's the best way to change

What's the best way to change for a body like a pic related. Calisthenics or Freeweight? And should I bulk then cut or should I maintain a slight deficit until I burn the excess fat off?
I am lost right now, I look at my body in the mirror and I'm repulsed and disgusted, I want to change. Thanks in advance.

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    plants in the options btw
    Literally just workout. It does not matter at your stage. Freeweight is more fun, so I suggest that.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What do you mean by plants?

      Also, thanks for the suggestion.

      > Calisthenics or Freeweight?
      Its never one or the other, gymbros do pull ups and pushups and calisthenics guys do barbell back squats.

      Definitely cut, you have no business bulking

      I understand, so they complement each other. I don't have a gym in a 25 miles radius. But If I really can't progress without free weights, then I'll buy some dumbbells and a barbell.

      So bulking at this stage would only make me fatter?

      Also thanks!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >So bulking at this stage would only make me fatter?
        Yes

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I know it's rude, but there are so god damn many guys just like you that ask that exact same question. So I reminded other people of this thing that you can put in the options bar to not give your thread a bump when they reply. I did this, to increase the diversity of entertainment on the board for your average anonymous board user.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Or you can just help OP? Theres tons of shit threads right now with 0 value

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I did help OP. I gave him the advice to do free weights, and I've never cut or bulked in my life.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I can see why you did that, I'm new to this but now I noticed that it seems like there are many other losers like me who have disgusting bodies and want to get feedback on their problems. Having 50 similar threads with shitty bodies doesn't look very nice.

          Fast to the bone and do calisthenics

          How long should I fast? 24 hours or longer?
          Thanks.

          Running is the best cardio. You can ride a bike but running has more benefits and of course burns more fat

          I see, well, running it s then.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            that's right, it's disgusting. But you're not a loser, you haven't lost. Hell, the fact that you're trying puts you in the front half of the pack. have a nice day until you feel alive.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > Calisthenics or Freeweight?
    Its never one or the other, gymbros do pull ups and pushups and calisthenics guys do barbell back squats.

    Definitely cut, you have no business bulking

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lift more, eat less. Magic.

      >You must to fix your diet and do cardio. Doesn’t matters how you lift if you don’t get rid of the extra fat
      Don't listen to this gay, OP. Cardio is good for you and good to work in but lifting in combination with a clean diet is THE BEST way to lose your body fat and get in good shape.

      LIFT. 3-4 SETS UNTIL FAILURE. AND STOP EATING SO MUCH

      how many times do we have to tell you gays this? It's not that fucking difficult, you just don't want to do it.

      Maybe stupid question, but what would be the difference in outcome between OP only doing cardio while cutting and him lifting and cutting with some cardio as well? I've always heard that you can't build muscle on a caloric deficit, but is this only true for skellies? If you have high bf% can you build muscle while losing fat?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I've always heard that you can't build muscle on a caloric deficit, but is this only true for skellies? If you have high bf% can you build muscle while losing fat?
        Any novice can build muscle on a caloric deficit. It’s even easier if you’re a higher bf%.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yup it doesnt count as much for novices, have fun cutting and lifting bro

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You must to fix your diet and do cardio. Doesn’t matters how you lift if you don’t get rid of the extra fat

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is running enough for cardio or should I do something else? Thanks!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Running is the best cardio. You can ride a bike but running has more benefits and of course burns more fat

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >the virgin runner vs the Chad swimming enthusiast

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I can see why you did that, I'm new to this but now I noticed that it seems like there are many other losers like me who have disgusting bodies and want to get feedback on their problems. Having 50 similar threads with shitty bodies doesn't look very nice.

          [...]
          How long should I fast? 24 hours or longer?
          Thanks.
          [...]
          I see, well, running it s then.

          I’d be careful with running OP, if you’re heavy and never been active your whole life that seems like a bad idea for your joints. Slowly build up to it and pick up technique from youtube

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Got it, then I'll just follow some running app's routine and progression, thanks!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            OP looks young and is not obese, I wouldn’t be worried about joints

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >You must to fix your diet and do cardio. Doesn’t matters how you lift if you don’t get rid of the extra fat
      Don't listen to this gay, OP. Cardio is good for you and good to work in but lifting in combination with a clean diet is THE BEST way to lose your body fat and get in good shape.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Did I told him to not lift?

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lift more, eat less. Magic.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Fast to the bone and do calisthenics

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >should I bulk
    I swear you fat idiots are retarded. "I'm already fat, should I get obese?" Yes, fatty. Do it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's just that I do not know how much body fat and muscle % i have. So I just wanted to make sure because someone told me that cutting without any muscles will just make you look worse. I'm just new to this self-improvement thing and I want to start it right at least.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s not that surprising. There are powershitters that would unironically tell OP to bulk.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is why I tell every skinnyfat to cut. A lot of them look like OP and they still end up bulking because mark rippetoe/Jason blaha convinced them to “build a base first.” Some guy in another thread was bulking at fucking 6’4 265lbs

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks, I have done some research on those and it seems that while it does improve your strength, you'll still look like me, which is unhealthy. What's the good in being strong when you look like a skinnyfat loser.

          not OP but similar, a sizeable bit skinnier.
          wondering how far down I should cut before I can start building.
          I was thinking I should starting eating more and lifting at 140 pounds? what do you think.
          i'm 6 feet tall.

          I'm also 6'0, and currently, weigh 194 lbs.
          Based on what I have read and from the answers, for you, it would be better to just cut down on junk food, sugar, eat protein and fewer carbs(Fast for 12 hours), and train every day with a day pause. And if you really want to cut, even more, start focusing on fasting because that's the efficient way of cutting subcutaneous fat. Good luck brother, next year let's post on the CBT and actually get some mirin, you can do it, bro!

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    LIFT. 3-4 SETS UNTIL FAILURE. AND STOP EATING SO MUCH

    how many times do we have to tell you gays this? It's not that fucking difficult, you just don't want to do it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You are right with the last part, in the past I wanted to "Self-improve", i didn't know the actual term and whole theme of self-improving so I just winged it with some basic body exercise routine, but after a week I gave up because I didn't see results right away .This losing mindset and negative will is what makes losers, losers. I will not hope now that I'll change improve my mindset, I'll just do it, thanks!

      that's right, it's disgusting. But you're not a loser, you haven't lost. Hell, the fact that you're trying puts you in the front half of the pack. have a nice day until you feel alive.

      Thanks! At this point, from what I have realized, it's better to just keep going and do what you need to do and not what you want to do.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    watch what you eat
    if you havent been active your entire life try swimming for cardio

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In my area, there is no swimming pool sadly, but once I get out of here I'll take it into consideration, thanks!

      OP looks young and is not obese, I wouldn’t be worried about joints

      I'm 20. Then I can for them a little bit, thanks!

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    EAT MORE MOVE LESS

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's what I've done for the last 5 years, It works.
      A

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    would I have loose skin cutting from that state? Or do you need to be an absolute unit?

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    GOMAD and SS

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most people shouldn't run, especially not heavy people. Pretty much every current and former runner has countless tales of foot, ankle, shin injuries which can last for an incredibly long time making it a pain in the ass to just take a walk. It's just too high risk.
    Walking is good enough for someone who is heavy. An exercise bike or something like is even better.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    not OP but similar, a sizeable bit skinnier.
    wondering how far down I should cut before I can start building.
    I was thinking I should starting eating more and lifting at 140 pounds? what do you think.
    i'm 6 feet tall.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      140 at 6 foot is close to underweight anon, you can cut and lift at the same time, no reason not to

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