What's the consensus on oats, are they good for you?

What's the consensus on oats, are they good for you?

  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Very good for you. One of the best carb sources overall. Can cause bloating for some people though.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It doesn't matter where carbs come from you retard. You can eat potato chips for carbs you just won't get as full and the cals are higher

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Bro carbs don't matter as long as they are carbs!
        >You can eat nothing but sugar for your macros and it's the exact same as eating oats with a low glycemic index!

        Ask me how I know you're overweight and weak

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Glycemic index is a fake measurement and has nothing to do with blood sugar levels or insulin response.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        this post gave me cancer
        >eating sneed oils
        >inflammation impedes gains
        >never get strong , heart attack from fatness

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    hard to eat for me personally but they make me feel fuller and more energetic than rice or bread, pasta makes me crash

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing makes me feel as strong as a mule like a nice bowl of porridge and 4 raw eggs in a glass

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wait until you want to be as strong as a bear. Then you'll stop eating goyslop and start eating honey, berries, and meat.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          bears are cannibalistic

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Eggs and porridge (oats and milk) are goyslop now?
          Jeez...this board...

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Grains are cattle feed. If you eat grains you're humanoid cattle (goy). What's so hard to understand?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oats have always been goyslop and always will be. See

            https://i.imgur.com/oXyLwn3.jpg

            >pesticide-ridden cattle feed is "power food"
            >video starts off by saying oatmeal "lowers your cholesterol and all that good stuff"
            I am unable to imagine a better representation of "goyslop." This is absolutely perfect.

            btw I think for the past hundreds of thousands of years, humans have imagined honey, heart, and meat as things warriors would eat. not this shit LOL

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            be like me and visit IST once every 3 weeks
            these guys are such massive retards don't bother

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Notice how anti-grain shills never post body

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're good for carbs, protein iron. If you want better you could check out bulgar, quinoa, farro, and buckwheat.

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oats make me bloat so hard. Buckwheat it is for me(slavshit)

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Any good recipes? I usually just soak them and cook them into a stew or eat them with sausages and gravy

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I never soak and never cook it like risotto. Not worth the hassle imo. Most of the time I add butter and Maggi seasoning (only thing I buy from Nestle, fuck Nestle) Otherwise just plain with any of the following in no particular order: Tuscan black pepper beef, shakshuka leftover sauce, chanterelle sour cream sauce, Beef Stroganoff, any minced meat deglazed with vermouth. A couple of times ran out of noodles and did buckwheat with scallion oil - was pretty good. Tomato dominated flavors - don't like

        • 4 months ago
          screenshot this recipe

          Any good recipes? I usually just soak them and cook them into a stew or eat them with sausages and gravy

          good idea
          another easy one would be slowcooker with beef bone broth & cheapo beef

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Maggi is owned by Nestle? Fuck.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Mix with yoghurt. Maximum gains.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        the buckwheat mixed with beef is best way to have it buti can't find the canned beef that they use in slav countries and minced beef sucks i'm thinking one day just adding a slow cooked rump to mix
        try having tuna and buckwheat it's better than tuna and rice

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Watch my recipe. Food for the god (me).

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >pesticide-ridden cattle feed is "power food"
          >video starts off by saying oatmeal "lowers your cholesterol and all that good stuff"
          I am unable to imagine a better representation of "goyslop." This is absolutely perfect.

          btw I think for the past hundreds of thousands of years, humans have imagined honey, heart, and meat as things warriors would eat. not this shit LOL

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        [...]

        Oats keep you full, but aren't very filling if that makes sense. If you like volume they suck cock, but they make it so you aren't hungry until like 4 hours later, so pick your poison, I eat them everyday and I'm a volume fatass, I just add a bunch of filling shit to it.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oats (60g), Fage5% (170g), ProPowder(1 Scoop), Walnuts (7g), I use casein Protein but if you gays start stealing my casein I will kill you.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes it makes perfect sense that oats, which have no nutrition and lots of fiber, don't satiate you at all, but take a long time for your digestive system to process. Why you think these are good things, I don't know.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            works on my machine buddy. Sucks to be you I like my oatbowl for breakfast

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              wtf are you talking about? I was quoting your own post about how oats affect you.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Loaded with Monsanto chemicals and arsenic

      >The average American, who consumes about half a cup of white rice a day, also ingests up to 222 parts per billion of inorganic arsenic, which is enough to give a person a 1 in 300 chance of developing cancer. It’s better to get your carbohydrates from other sources instead, like bread.
      Oats cause me shittonne of bloat to. Why whould this be so for a food thats been consumed for thousands of years? It has to be something thats added right?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the average american consumes half a cup of white rice per day
        >"1 in 300 chance of developing cancer"
        Whatever you are citing is spouting nonsense. Oatmeals cause you to be bloated because of the soluble fiber.

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    They are good especially if they are the only grain you have access to, barley and wheat taste better IMO, but take more prep

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    only minimally processed oats cooked on a stove.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      whats wrong with microwaving them

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Seed oils

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Make sure you soak them properly to reduce phytic acid etc and make the protein, vitamins, minerals more digestible/bioavailable

  8. 4 months ago
    screenshot this recipe

    its not the oats its what you pack with them
    its the easiest way to get macrosmicros
    >requires no cooking (overnight oats)
    >can maskhide the SHITTIEST tasting superfoods

    i do:
    cranberry
    pom juice
    blueberry
    acai
    elderberry
    strawberry
    black cherry
    ginger
    cinnamon
    clove
    collagen powder
    whey powder (plain unsweet)
    black berry
    raspberry
    cashew
    walnut
    pistachio
    banana
    raw honey &
    distilled water

    i have it about 4-5 times a week
    cheap, effective, easy, easy cleanup
    tastes honestly not that bad

    • 4 months ago
      screenshot this recipe

      >herpa derpa
      >all those organic fruits and oats are expensive!

      no anon
      you buy frozen and add a bit from each bag

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      all those organic fruits and oats are expensive

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        see

        >herpa derpa
        >all those organic fruits and oats are expensive!

        no anon
        you buy frozen and add a bit from each bag

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good for animal feed and in times of famine, better than dying. Even people 10,000 years ago new to soak them before you eat them.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      True

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Loaded with Monsanto chemicals and arsenic

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      roid trannies love a scoop of roundup on their pre workout peanut butter and oat cookies

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      what is organic non-gmo
      even target sells this for $2 anon
      please do not make up excuses
      it is your obligation to be a conscientious consumer and tell bayer to fuck off

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Organic food still has pesticide contamination. Are you new to this world?

        https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.est.0c06405
        >Pesticides were found in all sites, including 40 organic fields

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >herpa derpa
          >neighboring crops spilled their bs into yours checkmate!

          please, please tell me you are just pretending to be retarded

          do you understand WHY you should be buying non-gmo? the cross-contamination is literally intentional, they sue any farmer for copyright infringement that doesn't bend the knee to monsanto

          educate yourself

          Organic foods very often contain even more pesticides than GMO

          ya lets just eat roundup ready then
          much healthier alternative
          its a yikes from me

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            wtf are you babbling about you retard? did you even open the link? pesticides aren't GMOs and pesticide contamination has nothing to do with whatever you're raving about.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Organic foods very often contain even more pesticides than GMO

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oats are the most pesticide-ridden food you can buy at the grocery store. They are also a shit food with 0 nutrition. In addition, they contain tannins which precipitate proteins, stealing your gains, and phytic acid, which prevents you from absorbing calcium, zinc, and iron.

    There's this weird instinct on IST to deny the existence of anti-nutrients, despite there being entire fields of research dedicated to studying them as well as Wikipedia articles (the most normie-friendly source that exists). I think such posters can't fathom that oats could be unhealthy and so they work backwards from a conclusion (a dangerous maneuver) to declare that oats could never have anything unhealthy in them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytic_acid

    Are oats going to kill you? Obviously not. But there are much better foods out there, so why would you waste your time with oats? It's a fine first step if you've never eaten clean before. But you should move past it pretty fast if you want a better diet.

    If you want clean carbs, eat fruit, white rice, and honey.

    I can provide sources for all of my claims if you want btw, in case you're curious.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      t.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        luv me grains me

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        ...you responded to my post about tannins, phytic acid and pesticides with a picture of a guy who eats a lot of peanut butter? uhh i don't even know how to respond frankly.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >anyone I don't like is a ketolard
        >poster is literally advocating the consumption of rice, fruit and honey - even the though of consuming one of which would cause a ketolard to start crying and having a panic attack

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good post.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >falling for the antri-nutrients meme

      They a easy complex carb that digest slowly and keep you satiated for a long time. white rice has arsenic as well so pick your poison, as long as you soak and cook (no overnights oats bs) oats are one of the best carbs there is.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        What is the "anti-nutrients meme?" Are you saying they don't exist? I specifically discussed that in my post and even linked a fucking Wikipedia article lmao. Are you blind or something?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >anti nutrients are a meme
        >here is how to properly prepare your oats to help remove the phytic acid

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Anti-nutrients are literally the new fat is bad fad but for grains, It's so insignificant that it might as well be be a meme, yes obviously you will want to reduce the phytic acid through soaking and cooking just like how you cook chicken and eggs for the salmonella risk.. just because it has a defense mechanism doesn't inherently make it bad to eat as long as you take proper steps to prepare it, not only that most people only eat oatmeal once a day a few times a week.. the amount of phytic acid in these quantities is not enough expecially if you cook and soak to ever be a problem.. and my recent blood work is great with no deficiencies and I basically eat oatmeal everyday, stop falling for ketolard bullshit.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >yes anti-nutrients are insignificant but yes you obviously want to reduce them
            lol
            >i have no deficiencies
            0 people in this thread have claimed that oatmeal kills you or makes you deficient in nutrients.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Ok if oatmeal doesn't make you deficient in nutrients why are you complaining about phytic acid main function to block absorption of vitamins. lmao you basically admitting that there's no need to be concerned about it.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Making you absorb less nutrients =/= making you deficient in nutrients. I don't know what the rest of your diet looks like, retard.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I eat a balanced whole foods omnivorous diet, just admit that muh phytic acid studies are not a concern lmao, your on the same level as a woman complaining about gluten. find me a study on heavy oats consumption being detrimental to human health and i actually listen, not only that I guaranteed that you consuming way worse shit such as most salts containing microplastics and you problably wear polyester clothing.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Gluten is also bad for you.
                >find me a study on heavy oats consumption being detrimental to human health
                That's not what we're discussing. You are shifting the goal posts.
                >microplastic salt
                Nope, my salt doesn't have microplastics.
                >polyester clothes
                Nope, I only wear cotton and linen.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Gluten is only bad for you if your a genetic failure which apparently every keto and carnivoretard is. yes we are discussing phytic acid and it's basically not a concern for humans essentially.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >basically essentially don't worry about it
                This is exactly what someone who doesn't know anything about something would say.

                >only affects "genetic failures"
                Categorically false.

                >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4809873/
                >gluten makes the gut more permeable and can thus encourage the migration of food particles to sites where they are not expected, prompting the immune system to attack both these particles and brain-relevant substances that resemble them
                >gluten stimulates zonulin
                >In all of us, zonulin increases the permeability not only of the intestinal wall, but also of other no less interesting barriers—notably the blood-brain one.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                lying gay, it says BREAD makes the guy more permabale, not gluten

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I paraphrased based on the later contents of the study. It clearly says bread -> gluten -> zonulin -> permeability. I don't know how you didn't catch that.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you probably wear polyester clothing

                wtf you mean with this

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm the guy he was talking to. He probably left the thread after being BTFO'd about oatmeal as I predicted I would do to him. He was referring to the fact that wearing plastic on your skin is a horrible idea and you should always avoid it. The plastic leeches into your skin and fucks up your hormones and fertility.

                There are no studies in humans about this, but there is this one in dogs. They gave them various kinds of underwear to wear and the polyester underwear made the female dogs straight-up infertile.

                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18393023/
                >An experimental study on the effect of different types of textiles on conception
                >A total of 35 female dogs were divided into five equal groups: four test and one control.
                >Each of the four test groups was dressed in one type of textile underpants made of either 100% polyester, 50/50% polyester-cotton mix, 100% cotton, or 100% wool.
                >Eight bitches wearing polyester-containing textile showed diminished serum progesterone in the oestrus of the oestrous cycle, and did not conceive on mating or insemination.
                >Five months after pants had been removed, serum progesterone of the eight dogs had normalised, and they conceived.

                You should throw away all your polyester underwear ASAP. It's actually pretty horrifying stuff.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                gay, I don't have time to argue about oats all day on IST I'm still gonna enjoy my oats, enjoy my frequent poop frequency and unlimited energy and enjoy superior gym performance.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                oh man, it really would've been better if you just didn't respond. that was a really sad response... now he's going to brag about how much he poops, jesus...

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I went to sleep retard noone is here all day arguing about anti noootrients
                you didnt btfo anyone anyway all your studies have a low n size and dont mean shit

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                that would be very relevant if I were a bitch, but I'm neither a dog nor female
                >It's actually pretty horrifying stuff
                you sound like a bitch, please don't wear polyester underwear, you need your progesterone to get pregnant

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >this study that shows plastic causes infertility in mammals doesn't apply to me because i'm a big strong man
                lol ok buddy. i don't know who you're trying to prove yourself to but you're not convincing anyone here.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                stay in school kid, maybe you'll learn boys don't get gregnant

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/07/170726110954.htm
                >A rigorous and comprehensive meta-analysis of data collected between 1973 and 2011 finds that among men from Western countries, sperm concentration declined by more than 50 percent, with no evidence of a 'leveling off' in recent years.
                i still don't know to who you're trying to prove what point. it's beginning to reek of insecurity. why you are trying to defend wearing hormone-disrupting plastic this much i have no idea. did you just buy a 12-pack of polyester underwear or something?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >why are you defending
                >male infertility crisis is proofs
                my man I think the estrogens are sapping your IQ
                making fun of you aside, regarding the low-T shitsperm crisis: don't forget to get your omega-3s and veg in a decent way, in addition to enough protons of course
                >Men who ate a Western diet had the LOWEST TOTAL SPERM count (109 to 138 million) compared to three other popular diets.
                >Men who ate “prudently” came out on top, averaging 146 to 183 million sperm in a single semen sample. A “prudent” diet is one that is “generally healthy,” the researchers say, including lots of fruit, vegetables, fish, and chicken. Meanwhile, a Western diet is full of red meat, fried food, and sugar-sweetened drinks and desserts. A "vegetarian-like" approach to eating (little meat and a high intake of vegetables, eggs, and milk) came in second to a prudent diet

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >146 to 183 million sperm in the healthiest eaters today
                >average boomer in 1973 used to be cooming 300 million
                >anon thinks there is nothing to worry about
                The worst part is, it doesn't matter how much data I shove in your face. I don't know what your mental issue is but you seem to really, really, really be interested in wearing plastic around your testicles. I don't care about what you do but I hope I convince at least 1 person ITT to stop wearing plastic around their testicles.

                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6455044/

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >>anon thinks there is nothing to worry about

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you seem to really, really, really be interested in wearing plastic around your testicles

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah lol I don't know how someone could see that polyester made dogs infertile and see that the healthiest males today have half the sperm counts of the average boomer and say "just eat your veggies brah it'll all be good." Some people feel the weirdest need to defend their choices against all evidence.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >just

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I would rather my body process 1 nanogram of arsenic than multiple milligrams of pesticides, phytic acid, and tannins. I'm not sure why you think the latter is better.

        >satiation
        This doesn't come from oats or rice. This comes from meat, eggs, organs, and dairy. If you are eating oatmeal for satiation you are eating like the poorest medieval peasant.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Again, wash your produce and grains to reduce pesticides as well and buy organic for significantly less pesticides, same shit you do with rice... this is only a concern if you a retard that doesn't rinse their food.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            anonkun
            you need farmers market items
            you cannot "wash off" what they spray
            it soaks into the fruitvegetables
            glyphosate exposure is basically permanent
            its in blood, breast milk, etc

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Fair enough, I agree that farmers markets are superior than normal supermarket bs in terms of health.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >pesticides are only a concern if you don't rinse your food
            omg this anon figured everything out. pesticides are no big deal because you can just rinse your food! wow. someone award this man the smartest person alive trophy. he just decimated entire fields of research on the effects of pesticides in food.

            just kidding you are retarded.

            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4688301/
            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6388112/
            https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jafc.7b03118

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      so only white rice is good? what about potatoes?
      Im not going to eat a kilo of fruit a day to get my carbs

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Potatoes are probably good but they have a lot of lectins. I forget what lectins do though. What about honey, anon?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Do I look like winnie pooh? at most ill eat 2 spoons of it, Im not going to get 200g carbs a day with fruit and honey.
          Also doesn't fruit have pesticides too?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      cool

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      oats are a pretty good source of soluble fiber specifically, for poopmaxxing
      what would you suggest as an alternative?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        You don't need soluble fiber for digestive system health and "poopmaxxing" isn't a real health goal. There's no health reason for you to be pooping giant poops multiple times a day. If you like it tickling your prostate or something, I would say that makes you a bit of a coombrain.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          you do, and idk why you went to multiple giant poops a day and prostate tickling but this is a free country so all the more power to you, just don't molest the kids

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >you do
            >source: my toilet paper budget and dingleberries
            >idk why you talked about pooping a lot when i used the term "poopmaxxing"
            ok lol you're hopeless

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >sperging out about IST lingo
              perhaps you'd be more comfortable on reddit

              here, let me comfort you with some reddit spacing

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                wtf are you rambling about? you asked how to get "maximum poops via soluble fiber" without eating oatmeal. i'm letting you know your concern has 0 basis in health. would you like to again state with no evidence that you need soluble fiber for health? or would you like me to provide evidence to the contrary? you are really bad at this. are you European or something?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >"maximum poops via soluble fiber"
                who are you quoting

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, my bad, I didn't know English was your second language. Sorry, I can be more clear now. But it seems like you don't actually want to learn anything about soluble fiber today.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >puts words in my mouth
                >uses the weakest deflection ever when called out
                >"it seems like you don't actually want to learn anything about soluble fiber today"
                pathetic

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the red-faced European lashes out in anger again, unable to comprehend the discussion and ashamed of his English skills

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                it's ok anon, no need to triple down on it
                weak comprehension skills can be improved, I believe in you

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytic_acid
      You can just do overnight oats (with yoghurt) or cook them and that'll reduce the phytic acid

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yup it reduces it by some and doesn't get rid of it. We've been over this again and again.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Then what is your point? White rice still has phytic acid as well avoiding oats does nothing.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >white rice has phytic acid
            lol and can you tell me how much phytic acid white rice has compared to oatmeal? hint: orders of magnitude less.
            >avoiding oats does nothing
            We've already gone over ITT that every brand of oatmeal is highly contaminated with pesticides. So that proves you wrong pretty fast.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Grams per 100g
              White rice Min0.14 Max0.60
              Oat Min0.42 Max1.16

              I don't think you know what orders of magnitude are.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >doesn't provide a source for his randomly copy-pasted numbers

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bro any food with antinutrients is going to provide more nutrients than what it takes away.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >source: it came to me in a dream
        Also, if you're eating food just to break even on micronutrients, that's a pretty low standard you're setting for your diet.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >grains are antinutrients that take away important minerals despite the fact people subsisted on them for thousands of years
      ok lol

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I never said "grains are antinutrients." I said grains contain antinutrients like phytic acid and I linked the Wikipedia article to phytic acid which clearly states phytic acid chelates important minerals. Are you 12 years old or something? How is your reading comprehension so bad?

        >people subsisted on grains for thousands of years
        What people are you even talking about?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          what people? grains are a staple food duh. the grain trade is as old as agriculture. people understand the mineral binding stuff but with proper processing/cooking its not a big deal all things considered. Moderation is obviously better but this is overblown

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >still didn't name 1 group of people who "subsided on grains for thousands of years"
            Can you just admit you're making things up and grains have always been and forever will be goyslop?

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              that's not me but for arguments sake ever hear of ancient egypt? the roman empire? you sound like some sort of agriculture denier when it was undeniably grains and livestock cultivation that kickstarted civilization as we know it. fruits and vegs played their role too but the antinootrient revisionist history is cringe. If you can't even admit this point then i'm afraid you're delusional.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                The Romans & Egyptians ate much more than grains and the ancient Egyptians even invented foie gras (e.g. they ate a ton of liver). Yes the poor, weak people in those societies ate grains. No they did not "subside" on grains (that is not how you use that word). Anyway, why you want to eat like the poor did in ancient societies, I don't know.

                lol'ing at you listing everything except "meat and organs" in your list of what people in Rome & Egypt ate, even though you mentioned livestock. Sounds like the revisionism is on your end.

                also lol'ing at you thinking that "civilization kickstarted" because of the nutritional content of the food we grew. That shows you know absolutely nothing about history. Hunter-gatherers were always taller and stronger and healthier than farmers, as shown by femur length of skeletons & bone scarring. If you can't think of any other possibility how farming could have led to civilization other than "hurr grains so healthy," you are absolutely hopeless.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If you want clean carbs, eat fruit, white rice, and honey.
      lol

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      >The average American, who consumes about half a cup of white rice a day, also ingests up to 222 parts per billion of inorganic arsenic, which is enough to give a person a 1 in 300 chance of developing cancer. It’s better to get your carbohydrates from other sources instead, like bread.
      Oats cause me shittonne of bloat to. Why whould this be so for a food thats been consumed for thousands of years? It has to be something thats added right?

      Yes please provide sources I want to know more

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sources about what specifically? I've posted some of the general stuff ITT already.

        Anti-nootrients:
        https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/british-journal-of-nutrition/article/impact-of-antinutritional-factors-in-food-proteins-on-the-digestibility-of-protein-and-the-bioavailability-of-amino-acids-and-on-protein-quality/052B66B8F1BA8DBBCEE94E3607A63402
        >Dietary antinutritional factors have been reported to adversely affect the digestibility of protein, bioavailability of amino acids and protein quality of foods.
        >It is well known that tannins are potential protein precipitants and they reduce protein and amino acid digestibility
        >It is believed that under optimal conditions, sorghum tannin is capable of binding and precipitating at least 12 times its own weight of protein
        https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/77/5/1213/4689822?login=false
        >Phytic acid in cereal-based and legume-based complementary foods inhibits iron absorption.
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5983041/
        >A study on Fe absorption in cereal porridges reported, in some cases, a twelve-fold increase in the absorption of Fe when the phytic acid was removed from the food.
        >In several studies, it has been reported that human body can absorb about 30% of Mg and Zn without PA, however with PA, human body absorbed only 13 and 23%, respectively

        Pesticides in oatmeal:
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8207808/
        >The optimized method was used to screen thirteen commercially available oat products to identify candidate RMs.
        >Glyphosate was detected in all samples
        >Glyphosate is known to rapidly convert to aminomethylphosphonic acid (AMPA), its primary metabolite, from biotic or abiotic degradation in soils, which may also be toxic to humans even at low mass fractions

        If you read any paper, read the first anti-nootrient one. It's a whopper.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/zT4jhhl.jpg

          [...]
          Here's another great one. Oysters are full of zinc, which is extremely important for male vitality (you may have heard that zinc improves your cum quality). When you eat oysters, you get a ton of zinc.

          However... if you eat oysters with things that contain phytic acid (in this experiment, beans or tortillas), you absorb way less zinc, or 0 zinc.

          It's really fascinating stuff and, like I said above, I don't know why some people on IST close their eyes and stick their fingers in their ears and go "la-la-la" about this topic. It's really bizarre and irrational to me, but I guess some people in this world are just bizarre and irrational people.

          Thankyou anon.
          Removing cerials and supplementing zinc changed me as a person. It's nice to finally begin to know maybe why.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            wonder what is in the GMO-corn tortillas kek

            no matter what
            whenever you say glyphosate exposure
            botstranniesshitposters come out of the woodwork

            do not eat the goyslop!

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous
              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                holy fuck

                they are actively shilling the corn
                i dont mean in this thread, but on social media

                disturbing

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sources about what specifically? I've posted some of the general stuff ITT already.

        Anti-nootrients:
        https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/british-journal-of-nutrition/article/impact-of-antinutritional-factors-in-food-proteins-on-the-digestibility-of-protein-and-the-bioavailability-of-amino-acids-and-on-protein-quality/052B66B8F1BA8DBBCEE94E3607A63402
        >Dietary antinutritional factors have been reported to adversely affect the digestibility of protein, bioavailability of amino acids and protein quality of foods.
        >It is well known that tannins are potential protein precipitants and they reduce protein and amino acid digestibility
        >It is believed that under optimal conditions, sorghum tannin is capable of binding and precipitating at least 12 times its own weight of protein
        https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/77/5/1213/4689822?login=false
        >Phytic acid in cereal-based and legume-based complementary foods inhibits iron absorption.
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5983041/
        >A study on Fe absorption in cereal porridges reported, in some cases, a twelve-fold increase in the absorption of Fe when the phytic acid was removed from the food.
        >In several studies, it has been reported that human body can absorb about 30% of Mg and Zn without PA, however with PA, human body absorbed only 13 and 23%, respectively

        Pesticides in oatmeal:
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8207808/
        >The optimized method was used to screen thirteen commercially available oat products to identify candidate RMs.
        >Glyphosate was detected in all samples
        >Glyphosate is known to rapidly convert to aminomethylphosphonic acid (AMPA), its primary metabolite, from biotic or abiotic degradation in soils, which may also be toxic to humans even at low mass fractions

        If you read any paper, read the first anti-nootrient one. It's a whopper.

        Here's another great one. Oysters are full of zinc, which is extremely important for male vitality (you may have heard that zinc improves your cum quality). When you eat oysters, you get a ton of zinc.

        However... if you eat oysters with things that contain phytic acid (in this experiment, beans or tortillas), you absorb way less zinc, or 0 zinc.

        It's really fascinating stuff and, like I said above, I don't know why some people on IST close their eyes and stick their fingers in their ears and go "la-la-la" about this topic. It's really bizarre and irrational to me, but I guess some people in this world are just bizarre and irrational people.

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes but only organic, otherwise theyre just roundup sponges

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >add milk and oats in a bowl
    >pinch of salt
    >microwave
    >add a scoop of protein powder
    >mix it with a spoon till it gets creamy
    >add cinnamon
    >add some fruit

    this is how I make them

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      mmm yummy pesticides and phytic acid and tannins. eat some eggs and fruit like an adult and drink your milk in a cup.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >mmm yummy pesticides and phytic acid and tannins
        Post body/lifts. If you are stronger than me I will drop oats right now.

        I eat eggs and fruit for dinner, that was breakfast
        >milk in a cup
        thats weirdly specific, why does that matter

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >powerlifting = health
          >if you can lift heavy weights every food you eat is perfect
          Raised by a single mom energy.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            My focus is strength yes, if it makes me stronger I don't care about some tiny particles that your goyscience says its unhealthy, I will eat it.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >strength = health
              >i don't care about some tiny particles
              Oh you are a triple-vaxxed schizo. That explains it.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I never said strength is healthy retard just that it is my goal.
                I haven't gotten a single vaxx, nice projection though.
                You are the one scared of food here

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >not scared of some tiny particles
                >didn't get COVID vaxxed
                Hmm I am detecting some hypocrisy here. The COVID vax is made of tiny particles and doesn't shrink your muscles, so what could you possibly be concerned about?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why would I waste my time to take something that I don't need?
                Oats fill me up, are tasty and make me strong on the other hand.
                How do those things even compare? Are you trolling or just stupid?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >can't understand how "i'm not scared of tiny particles" also applies to tiny particles injected in you
                lol you are such a dumb meathead.
                >oats fill me up
                False. Oats aren't satiating at all.
                >oats are tasty
                False. That's why you add so much shit to them as you've already stated.
                >oats make me strong
                False. Calories + protein make you strong.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                You brought it out of nowhere for no reason at all lmao nice try defending your stupidity
                Oats fill me up and are tasty on their own.
                After protein, carbs are the most important macro and oats are some of the best carbs you can eat 🙂

                if you prove you lift more than me I will stop eating oats btw haha
                you are only spouting youtube video facts rn btw

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >out of nowhere
                No, I brought it up because you said you "aren't scared of tiny particles" like an absolute retard. I'm pointing out you are obviously scared of tiny particles, like every human is, because even the smallest amount of tiny particles can fuck up a human very easily (snake venom, ricin, etc.). You are just acting like a meathead because you think it's cute and you were raised by a single mom.

                >youtube facts
                Choose 1 fact of mine you think is untrue and I will BTFO you.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                True but no human has had bad side effects from oats lmao
                >Choose 1 fact of mine you think is untrue and I will BTFO you.
                That oats are bad for you 🙂

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8207808/
                >Determination of glyphosate and AMPA in oat products for the selection of candidate reference materials
                >The optimized method was used to screen thirteen commercially available oat products to identify candidate RMs.
                >Glyphosate was detected in all samples
                >Glyphosate is known to rapidly convert to aminomethylphosphonic acid (AMPA), its primary metabolite, from biotic or abiotic degradation in soils, which may also be toxic to humans even at low mass fractions

                lol i need a research study to show this guy that pesticides are bad for him. some people are just helpless.

                Bonus study: phytic acid impairs iron absorption (common knowledge fact, but thought i'd put this here anyway).
                https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/77/5/1213/4689822?login=false
                >Phytate degradation improves iron absorption from cereal porridges prepared with water but not with milk, except from high-tannin sorghum.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                degradation improves iron absorption from cereal porridges prepared with water but not with milk, except from high-tannin sorghum.
                so oats with water, not with milk, thanks anon

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >shown study clearly demonstrating oats impair iron absorption
                >hurr durr i'll use water now
                goyslop worshippers are the worst.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          This gay watches too much Carnivore MD, that's why he talks like that lmao.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        bro you sound insufferable

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    How was this poverty serf food meme’d as some kind of superfood when it has fuck-all micronutrients? Even disregarding anti-nutrients and pesticide content. Is it because they’re bland as fuck they seem healthy or what?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's just a good base to add actual nutritious food on, same with rice.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        so its just empty calories? why even bother? at least potatoes have some vitamins and minerals

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        No one starts threads about "is white rice good for you?" and similarly there are no meatheads defending white rice fervently like we have ITT right now. So you are wrong and that poster is correct. Oats were memed into being a superfood despite having zero nutrition (not to mention the other problems discussed extensively already).

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      How is this bad for 100g of it? Mogs the fuck out of rice, pasta, bread etc if you compare them
      Sure it loses to fruit and vegetables but it isn't empty at all.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >iron, zinc, calcium
        All should be 0 because of phytic acid. All that goes straight into your poop and is not absorbed.
        >manganese, phosphorus, selenium
        literally who?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >doesn't know about essential minerals
          >wants to advice others on food

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Name what happens if you are deficient in manganese, phosphorous or selenium off the top of your head. Then name how common deficiencies in those are off the top of your head. You can't, but you also can't help but pretend like you can on IST for some unknown reason. What an annoying fag.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >muh phytic acid
          Soak and cook and you will get the nutrients from the oats there's also the option of buying sprouted oats, phytic acid doesn't magically absorb every vitamin and mineral in your meal retard.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >soak and cook
            Doesn't get rid of all the phytic acid, only half. And also doesn't even affect the levels of other antinutrients. Find the study if you don't believe me.
            >magic
            How molecules chelate others isn't magic and is very well-explained by modern science. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it doesn't happen lmao literally infant logic.

      • 4 months ago
        SwedishBrorsan

        what site/app is this ? i have made notes from some university books like a grandpa, time to keep up with the times

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          cronometer

          • 4 months ago
            SwedishBrorsan

            thx fren

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    i've never soaked my oats before, how do you guys do it?
    oats with almonds is usually my preworkout meal

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >oats and almonds pre-workout
      wtf are you doing dude eat honey and bananas or something. drink some milk. eat some eggs. what a horrible pre-workout.

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Love me pumpkin overnight oats. Soaked in 1% Kefir

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nice mason jar, I use those too. But I fill them with raw (whole) milk instead of goyslop lol.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Retarded carnfag

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          What are you even trying to say?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >stop eating animals bigot!

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Holy shit I thought this was an iconic recreation

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Based. Grains are for cattle.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Pumpkin is actually pretty based since it's a squash or whatever, but bragging about your lowfat milk drink with oatmeal and pumpkin is like a girl bragging about her Starbucks drink lol.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Is lactose free good or am I losing gains drinking that. (Lactose milk rips my tummy apart :()

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Are you sure it's the lactose? Some people have problems with the specific milk proteins, not the lactose sugar itself, and do better with other kinds of milk, like goat's milk or milk from Jersey cows (A2 vs A1). Also, some people "lactose" intolerant to pasteurized milk can drink raw milk with no problem.

              Of course, others have trouble digesting lactose because of enzyme deficiencies and whatnot, so if that's you I guess these suggestions wouldn't work.

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >thread fighting about oatmeal

    never change anonkun, NEVER

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Worshipping oatmeal is IST's version of how Facebook moms worship chia seeds.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        name a better cheap food that you can stack nutrients into

        in the united states greek yogurt (plain) used to be that answer, now the dairy industry here is pozzed

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >food that you can stack nutrients into
          What does this even mean? If you want calories with no nutrition you should be eating white rice lol. But I still don't understand what you mean by that. I don't put my eggs or liver or steak into greek yogurt.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Stop being a brainlet, oats and rice are a filler food used to keep your tummy full while providing carbs for energy, oats have more nutrition than white rice and fiber and slower digestion which keeps your blood sugar levels more stable.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >used to keep your tummy full
              First of all, oatmeal and rice have hardly any satiety, so this statement is retarded unless you are talking about literally eating so much that you cause yourself to be bloated. I don't have that desire and the fact that you do means your diet is bad.
              >oats have more nutrition than white rice
              If you are using oats as a source of nutrition, that probably explains why your diet is so bad and your stomach is desperately crying for more nutrients until you stuff it full and cause yourself to be bloated lol.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's like your retarded, nobody eats oatmeal on its own. I actually add a couple eggs and notice that it keeps me going way longer than if I just ate the eggs and fruit. oatmeal has fiber and bata glucan so obviously it will keep you full longer since fiber slows down digestion. You might just have a shit gut biome so thats why oats bloat you. any basic google search will tell you this.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You might just have a shit gut biome so thats why oats bloat you
                Is English your second language? I never said oatmeal bloats me. You are claiming oatmeal is healthy because you stuff your stomach with it and the fiber keeps it stuck in your digestive system for longer. Having food distend your stomach and being stuck in there = bloat.
                >when i eat more calories i don't need to eat as frequently
                Holy shit really?? Whoa!

                Nobody eats oatmeal on its own because it's a shit food and everyone knows it's a shit food. This is an undeniable fact. There is no good food you can't enjoy by itself. Oatmeal is the OG goyslop and you are perfectly showing this.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                this dude probably thinks fiber is unhealthy because it makes you feel fuller

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                What does that even mean?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            white rice is grown overseas
            it is cut with literal plastic
            it is sprayed with chemicals (dubious at best)
            it is grown in raw sewage

            you should be eating local foods only
            FUCK CHINA

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              My man, Arkansas produces a shitton of rice.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Not buying Persian rice

              NGMI

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    There are no good carbs, unnatural food source not found in nature and your body is not good at processing all that sugar at once.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      False. Show me any evidence of any bad effects from consuming fruit or honey. You can't because it doesn't exist.
      >your body is not good at processing all that sugar at once
      lol nice mechanistic explanation of digestive physiology. where did you learn that?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        The evidence is out there use pubmed or google scholar I cant be arsed right now, mitochondrial and endothelial damage from elevated blood glucose. Man made grains engineered for maximum yield eaten in high quantities elevating insulin igf-1 and mtor.

        Modern fruits are not the same as ancient fruits again, engineered for maximum sugar. Fruits were seasonal, honey was extremely rare due to the risks involved. Couple all this with high quantities of fat consumed in the same meal which is not found in nature either.

        The only way you could be somewhat safe while consuming this is if you are basically a machine that is able to train at stupid levels of intensity to burn it all off before your body oxidizes the glucose in tissues you don't want to like the skin.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the evidence is out there
          I have never seen anyone provide any such evidence and I've asked this simple question to lots of people like you before.
          >honey was rare because of the risks
          lmao maybe to your bitch ancestors. There are hunter-gatherers right now who eat honey every day with perfect metabolic health.
          >grains, carbs + fat
          Not relevant to what we're talking about at all.

          You typed all that up and will type up another post and yet you're saying you can't take 10 seconds to find a pubmed study that theoretically exists lol.

          The only thing you said that was semi-correct so far was "elevated blood glucose for long periods of time is bad for you." Yes, that's what metabolic dysfunction & diabetes are. Fruit and honey do not cause either of these things or contribute to them in any way.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Didn't say they caused diabetes, you get that when your beta cells get fucked from visceral fat. Your average couch potato is not a hunter gatherer. Metabolic needs do not match our present consumption of carbohydrate.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Metabolic needs do not match our present consumption of carbohydrate.
            This has nothing to do with eating fruits or honey but instead is talking about overconsumption of food in general, which is obviously bad for you. So I'm not sure what your point is anymore. You still haven't named 1 bad effect from eating fruits or honey or provided any evidence for your original claim.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >honey was extremely rare due to the risk involved
          False even for modern hunter gatherers eg honey is a staple of the Hadza diet. Also lol at “just look it up on pubmed bro” fucking ketotards

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I always liked oatmeal, but savory oats was a game changer. A moroccan or mexican Hispanice mix is fucking great with oats.

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I eat oats every day. Sometimes twice a day. Don't soak em either.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      B R Ö T H E R !

    • 4 months ago
      SwedishBrorsan

      wanted to take a pic of my oats right now but i fear fucktards like kam would dox me for the most minor details
      proats is love, proats is life

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Take the mongol pill. if at any point you wonder if a food is good for you ask yourself this: could the mongols subsist on this and only this and still maintain the necesarry strength needed to conquer China? If the answer is no then there is your answer.

  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    picrel with milk or natural yoghurt.

  23. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did someone say oats?

  24. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >rice

    >Of course, eating highly contaminated rice products multiple times a day, week after week, is not a smart idea, especially if you are cooking in water that also contains arsenic. That’s an example of chronic arsenic exposure, which is linked to an increased risk of developing Type 2 diabetes and cardiovascular disease. It can also lead to chronic arsenic poisoning, which may trigger skin lesions and skin cancer

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >is linked
      Any time these words are used, you can always disregard the entire statement they're contained in.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        association is a "maybe idk; do more research", retards and unscrupulous journalists conflate it with causality
        black and white thinking is a sign of retardation

  25. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've never found them to have much substance. More of a fan of meat fat and sugar to get me loaded with some energy.

  26. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >that one antinutrient schizo
    whats his problem?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I am trying to get IST to stop worshipping a shit-tier 0 nutrition food that has been planted by humans for the past thousands of years as animal feed or peasant food.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yet you provide no good alternative and don't post body, curious.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >no good alternative
          Are you delusional? An alternative to what?? You didn't provide any evidence. Do you want me to do the work for you? Because I can if you ask nicely.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            to cheap tasty filling easy healthy carb source?

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >cheap
              >filling
              If you are looking for "cheap and filling" food, oatmeal is perfect for that and that's not what I'm discussing at all.
              >tasty
              lol I 100% guarantee you don't eat oats by themselves, which you would if they were actually tasty.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            and yet people shill rice here 24/7

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >no good alternative
          Are you delusional? An alternative to what?? You didn't provide any evidence. Do you want me to do the work for you? Because I can if you ask nicely.

          Ok, I'll do the work for you. I'm genuinely curious so I didn't mind doing it.

          Here's a table of phytic acid levels. You will notice that brown rice and oatmeal have about the same phytic acid levels, which makes perfect sense considering what parts of the plant these are. It's important to note here that "oats" can be very different, being either whole and steel cut (highest levels of phytic acid) or ground & steamed (lowest levels of phytic acid). I would think this matters a lot, but I couldn't find anything to differentiate between these two things, and I searched pretty hard.

          White rice naturally has much less phytic acid than brown rice (and by extension, oatmeal) because the husk of the plant is removed. The husk is what contains the anti-nutrients and phytochemicals. You generally should not be eating plant husks, which to me is common sense but some people get tricked into thinking otherwise. The white part of rice is basically just calories in a food matrix (which is exactly what makes it such a good source of clean carbs). This is why people have been doing extra work for thousands of years to eat white rice and not brown rice (until today).

          The source for the brown rice, white rice, and oat phytate values is Food Phytates, CRC Press, 2001 by N. R. Reddy et al. But frankly I think the numbers in this table are a bit off and I think the difference between white rice & oatmeal phytate levels is more like 3–6x based on the source (which I read through). I'm not sure how exactly this person got these numbers based on the sources they gave.

          With all of this aside—who cares about some random anti-nootrient anyway? Oatmeal is riddled with pesticides and that enough should convince you to stop eating it lol.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I dont care about phytic acid bro i care about it as a whole. Let me make this simple, which is healthier to eat: bread, pasta, rice, oats, potatoes, beans or lentils?
            I choose one of these as my main carb source and the rest is fruit/veg.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              I don't think any of those provide unique nutrition and I don't think you should be looking to eat any of them for specific health goals (e.g. to hit certain micronutrient goals). Of course, sometimes you just need more calories in the day. With that being said, the cleanest source of energy that you listed is white rice, without a doubt, for all the reasons we've discussed ITT.

              I would rank it as:
              (white) rice > potatoes > pasta & bread & oats > beans & lentils

              >rest is fruit/veg
              If you're looking to diversify your carb intake, squash & honey are pretty based, too. Make sure you buy your honey raw and from a local apiary, though. Most grocery stores contain 0 good honey brands.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yep thats what I do but the locals here put it in plastic bottles lol and its expensive
                I usually make some casserole oven thing with zucchini or squash as the main ingredient then add some flour and dairy to it its pretty good.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                That sounds nice. I used to make a quiche with eggs, cream, maybe some bacon/ham, and with a crust of butternut squash. I don't make it anymore because I'm lazy, but I think quiches/casseroles are great.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            what about wholewheat bread

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              I don't really know. I haven't researched it much because I'm not a fan of bread. But I think the best bread is sprouted (antinutrient content goes down when a plant sprouts since it's focused on growing, not defending itself). Other than that, white rice is definitely better than brown rice, but does that mean white bread is actually better than whole wheat bread? I don't know, it feels strange to say.

  27. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    All of these seething ketolard posts and not 1 body posted

  28. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Goyslop.

  29. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    i eat oats and i squat 200kg

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Congrats. You eat the same food as a cow but are still weaker than them. YWNBAC.

  30. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, they will kill you.

  31. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    they are good for me but not good for you
    stop eating them

  32. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Noone mentioned protein retard we are talking about good healthy carbs

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >carbs
      >healthy
      lol

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        needed to be strong

  33. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Pretty sure they are all there numbnuts

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >numbnuts
      im on day 5 of nofap please dont make me relapse using language like this

  34. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are you all seething about oats? Eat your fucking oatmeal and do your squats.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      muesli is better

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >stop improving
      >do the same thing for the rest of your life
      Posters like you are the worst.

  35. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Grains = goyslop

  36. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The fiber makes me fart like a rocketship

  37. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Whats next? Chicken breast is bad for you?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Chickens fed corn and s0i and grains alters the fat content of the eggs and meat to the garbage omega-6s we don't want, so yeah chicken is a bad choice despite
      >need le chicken breast to be le body builder
      meme from weightlifters that know nothing about nutrition beyond surface-level macronutrients (which they still don't get right a lot of the time)

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