whats the final verdict? does creatine cause balding??

whats the final verdict? does creatine cause balding??

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I stopped taking creatine because of IST scaremongering. It's not worth the risk to me

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes

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    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that doesnt prove it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        bald

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >that doesnt prove it

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the true redpill here is not to take creatine together with caffeine.
    I quit caffeine entirely so that I could return blasting creatine.
    You can't talk performance without talking creatine, my dude.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why can't you have both caffeine and creatine?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        its well known that it will rape your hairline

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          no it isnt well known, i heard caffine counteracts the benefits of creatine but ive never heard the hairline thing

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            it wouldn't be direct if it was. Like maybe creatine lets you push your body harder and get more DHT conversion from that it or something which accelerates balding or physical stress or whatever. It doesn't have to be a direct chemical relationship

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        they can't both get into the cells' plasma membrane at the same time, think of it as two people trying to get into the same narrow door

        I've this theory that it is the creatine that doesn't get in that gets converted into DHT, which closes your hair follicles over time

        but hey, that's bro science for you, if you want real ~~*science*~~ I'm sorry to say that there's no conclusive studies

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          makes sense

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. Retards here are die-hard contrarians who will take the opposite stance to [current thing] as a plea for attention. Creatine is the only supp worth taking as proven by a wealth of studies, and no balding effect has ever been proven in peer-reviewed followup studies. Enjoy 10% more gains.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no balding effect has ever been proven in peer-reviewed followup studies
      gay way to write "it was never measured"

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      But it was proven that creatine increases DHT
      DHT causes balding.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This subject really pisses me off. Seems like every time this is raised, the large majority of people jump on the ‘ThErE’s No EvIdEnCe tO sUPpOrT ThAt’ bullshit like most shitty YouTuber conclusions.

    THE bottom line is that yes, (frustratingly) there have been hardly any real studies on this topic. BUT the one that does exist, shows a increase in DHT after the loading phase.

    Now whether you take the results as gospel is up to you. But stop spouting your mouth of claiming it’s bullshit when you have zero evidence to prove that. The ONLY ‘evidence’ available suggests that creatine does increase DHT. Regardless of how ‘strong’ you feel that evidence is.

    Andrew Huberman has talked about this before, a couple of times actually. If you haven’t heard of him, check him out. Neuroscientist who has made a name for himself over the last couple of years with his podcast, the Huberman Lab. He has guests on who discuss / review existing scientific data. These people are FAR more qualified to comment on this than 99.9999% of people here and indeed on YouTube.

    And surprise surprise, both Huberman and one of his guests, Andy Gaplin, both conclude (on separate occasions) that creatine is likely to accelerate hair loss in those prone to AA given that it LIKELY increases DHT.

    Clearly everyone is different and in some prone to AA it may not increase DHT levels enough to result in a change.

    But just ask yourself - is it worth the risk?

    I desperately want to jump on creatine again. I miss the pump. I miss the extra energy in the gym. I miss the extra 3/4kg in water weight. But it’s just not worth it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      so you increased hairloss when on creatine?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I shed almost all of my hair when I was on creatine and it all grew back about 2 weeks after I stopped which was very fortunate since I could still undo the damage of that poison.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          almost all your hair in 2 weeks? jeez

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Fucking same. And yes, it's a shame 'cause it really gave me that extra oomph I really miss on my feeling down days.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          so you increased hairloss when on creatine?

          This subject really pisses me off. Seems like every time this is raised, the large majority of people jump on the ‘ThErE’s No EvIdEnCe tO sUPpOrT ThAt’ bullshit like most shitty YouTuber conclusions.

          THE bottom line is that yes, (frustratingly) there have been hardly any real studies on this topic. BUT the one that does exist, shows a increase in DHT after the loading phase.

          Now whether you take the results as gospel is up to you. But stop spouting your mouth of claiming it’s bullshit when you have zero evidence to prove that. The ONLY ‘evidence’ available suggests that creatine does increase DHT. Regardless of how ‘strong’ you feel that evidence is.

          Andrew Huberman has talked about this before, a couple of times actually. If you haven’t heard of him, check him out. Neuroscientist who has made a name for himself over the last couple of years with his podcast, the Huberman Lab. He has guests on who discuss / review existing scientific data. These people are FAR more qualified to comment on this than 99.9999% of people here and indeed on YouTube.

          And surprise surprise, both Huberman and one of his guests, Andy Gaplin, both conclude (on separate occasions) that creatine is likely to accelerate hair loss in those prone to AA given that it LIKELY increases DHT.

          Clearly everyone is different and in some prone to AA it may not increase DHT levels enough to result in a change.

          But just ask yourself - is it worth the risk?

          I desperately want to jump on creatine again. I miss the pump. I miss the extra energy in the gym. I miss the extra 3/4kg in water weight. But it’s just not worth it.

          wtf
          i've been on creatine for like months and i haven't noticed any hairloss. same as all my mates who use it. the only dude i know whos balding badly and trains doesn't use creatine

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            i think it really depends on the person

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It surely has to do with activating/accelerating your genetic predisposition, so if you don't have one maybe it doesn't affect you.

            In my case the correlation between starting to take it (no previous hair loss at all) and radical hair loss after just 2 weeks was unmistakeable. It completely stopped once I dropped it.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, the final verdict is that creatine either does or doesn't cause balding.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don’t know don’t care.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    NO, IT INCREASES DHT.
    If you're predisposed to hair loss, the increase in DHT will increase your male gene expression.
    https://www.genome.gov/genetics-glossary/Gene-Expression

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >increases dht
      Post proof. I’ll wait.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        How does creatine increase dihydrotestosterone (DHT) levels?

        To my knowledge, It is yet to know. I don't know anyone have clear path to explain this phenomenon. It has been found that three weeks of creatine monohydrate supplementation affects dihydrotestosterone (DHT) to Testosterone (T) ratio in college-aged (18.7±0.53 years) rugby players

        Accordingly, these volunteering subjects loaded with creatine (25 g
        creatine plus 25 g glucose per day) or placebo (50 g glucose per day) for 7 days followed by 14 days of maintenance (test subjects: 5 g creatine plus 25 g glucose per day or placebo: 30 g

        glucose per day). The levels of DHT and T were measured after 7 days and 21 days (after 14 day meaintenance).

        After 7 days of creatine loading, or a further 14 days of creatine maintenance dose, serum T levels did not change. However, levels of DHT increased by 56% after 7 days of creatine loading and remained 40% above baseline after 14 days maintenance (P<0.001)

        The ratio of DHT:T also increased by 36% after 7 days creatine supplementation and remained elevated by 22% after the maintenance dose (P<0.01)

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have full hair 39yrs, it makes me lift more

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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    >these results have not been explained by the authors,
    doesnt need to be explained, it was observed and thats enough
    >and as recent reveiw pointed out that these results have not been replicated either
    they never studied it again, there was another study that was sponsored by a supplement company and they withdrew support mid way through the study. other than that it has never been studied again

    yes

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