I don't get it, it's everywhere you look. I understand squats are important, but what makes them apparently so much more important than any other lift? Why is there such a dedicated following for squats in particular? From squatting everyday to programs built around squatting to people obsessing over putting more weight on their squat to the hyperfixation on form. No other major lift has this sort of intense discussion around it. Why?
I'm not talking about women squatting to grow their asses, I understand that. I'm speaking from a bodybuilding/strength perspective.
The squat is the most "compound" compound movement. It is the closest thing to a standardised quantifier of overall strength we can biomechanically achieve. It is the most psychologyically and physiologically taxing exercise. The most fundamental function of thr human body. You understand once you get good at squats. I used to hate squats when i was bad at them, but in time i realised that that was the point. Squats change your mindset completely. You don't have to be a powershitter to squat well. Just try it.
You're supposed to wait for the thread to devolve into racism and name calling before posting a helpful and actually insightful reply.
that would be deadlift, sorry
> psychologically taxing
When was the last time you were maxing out your deadlift and the adrenaline of knowing that if you fail you might break your back if you give up? Only pussies use safeties.
Deadlifts also don’t demand mobility and proprioception.
It's my favorite lift to test my willpower. You can always just rack the bar.
You don't have to do that set.
When you do, when you push through, that's when you get stronger(mentally).
Helps build my confidence.
To most wannabe powerlifters, it's the king of all exercises. I used to obsessed myself doing these first but realized I've become bottom heavy so I limit these to once a week and focused on upper body. Personally, the OHP should be the main focus for upper body aesthetics.
Yeah, i'd say that for those who want a well balanced physique, the most salient advice would be to always focus on your weaknesses. I see so many chubby guys who are beasts at squatting completely shy away from pull ups, and so many skinny guys comepletely leave out squats from their routines. Everything in moderation.
I'm a bottom so I enjoy being crushed by enormous weights.
On IST it comes from around ten years ago when people revered Rippetoe and like to believe they were superior to the curl bros for becoming pseudo powerlifters
If you have to ask, you’re NGMI
I just started lifting a couple weeks ago. Apologies for not understanding everything immediately from the get go.
it's okay this time, but don't let me catch you not knowing things again
follow RP and 3DMJ. Thank me later
Sorry for being mean spirited.
You’ll find out soon enough that certain lifts just feel right while you’re doing them. You’ll get immediate muscle activation and the movement will feel natural. Squats are one of those movements.
Problem with squats is that everyone overthinks them. Foot placement, hand placement, bar placement, how far to go, etc.. but it’s all driven by genetics and your bone structure. Some of the movement can be mitigated with mobility work but really just do what feels comfortable with light weight until you are confident enough to increase weight.
>gets you insane quads
>gets you insane hams
>gets you insane glutes
>gets you some core, calf, upper and lower back work too
>boosts hgh
>boosts test
>enhances athletical performance in a variety of ways, literally done by athlets in every field
>gets you strong
>is fun to progress in
>has many different forms
> hams
LMAO nope
> calfs
nope, look at powerlifters
> boosts hgh
retarded myth from 40 years ago
> boosts test
nothing boosts test that is not a steroid in any noticeable way, aside from healthy eating and sleeping, and training in general - but it's not even a boost at that point
others are true
SHUT THE FUCK UP SHUT THE FUCK UP
SHUT THE FUCK UP SHUT THE FUCK UP
SHUT THE FUCK UP SHUT THE FUCK UP
SHUT THE FUCK UP SHUT THE FUCK UP
SHUT THE FUCK UP SHUT THE FUCK UP
Learn anatomy. Squats don't train hams or calves.
>What's with the obsession with squats?
>I don't get it, it's everywhere you look. I understand squats are important, but what makes them apparently so much more important than any other lift? Why is there such a dedicated following for squats in particular? From squatting everyday to programs built around squatting to people obsessing over putting more weight on their squat to the hyperfixation on form. No other major lift has this sort of intense discussion around it. Why?
>I'm not talking about women squatting to grow their asses, I understand that. I'm speaking from a bodybuilding/strength perspective.
Would Seinfeld (the TV comedy) be better if Jerry was fucking huge?
Don't listen to people. Squats are not important. People get attached to squats because your quads are one the fastest growing muscles. Nut big quads look gay af and are not an accomplishment. Then you get lots of new lifters with big quads and small calves and they look incredibly top heavy and unattractive.
Pull ups are probably the most aesthetic building lift out there and it's what people should be focusing on the most
not him but i can hardly do 2 full pull ups. im like 215 lbs. Should I keep doing pull downs til i get strong enough for pull ups or should I do negative pull ups and scapular pull ups to build up strength?
Not the poster you replied to, but I am 230lbs and do doubles/triples until I can only do 1 rep on pull-ups+chins.
Then I finish off with pulldowns. Which can be 2-3 sets until the rep drop off is too big imo.
Just started doing this but I enjoy it since you can treat the pull/chins as strength work, and then pulldowns for some volume.
230 as well and can do 11 deadhang pull-ups just do negatives superset with Bench you can do pull-ups to failure and still hit a 95%1rm bench too just do a fuckload of negatives aim for 40 a workout and also do a fuckload of 95#1rm bench and superset with negatives at least 2x negatives of your deadhang every workout Atleast 50 of them and superset them with Bench im 230 and can do 11 deadhang pull-ups because I did negatives superset with Bench every set you can do 95#1rm after failing pull-ups try this out I weigh 230
bro, chill.
Breathe motherfucker breathe
when you squat, everything below the bar gets stressed; especially your back as you learn to brace properly
after doing a bro split for 2 years I had escaped dyel mode because of shoulders and arms and lats
but I never felt strong until I did the five main lifts including squats for 6 months while eating a surplus
I tried replacing squats by treating hack squats as a main lift and my legs & ass just got smaller and I lost almost 200lbs on my squat when I went back to it. Pretty much everyone on IST is trying to make you small like them.
>male, 5’7”, 34 y/o, 149lbs
>do 3 sets of 10 barbell back squats,120lbs
>destroy legs in ensuing PP[Leg] day
>go on almost 9 mile exhausting hike next morning with 10 or so hikers
>get sick after hike, wake up with a sore throat and mega DOMS
Did i leg day myself sick?
you gave yourself rhabdo
How are you 34 and so shit at planning?
The girl i went with has never taken me on such a brutal hike before, it was unexpected. I thought it’d just be 3 miles
oh dang.
Untrained I can do 7 miles at 8k elevation going up... but I am wrecked after that.
3 miles is a huge difference from freaking 9 lmao.
Guess you were the cardiolet this time.
She took me on a 1 mile vertical climb challenge a few months ago, i climbed this 40 story building like 11 and a half times or something if i recall, equated to one mile of vertical distance. I kicked her ass at that cuz i prepped by doing stair master for 2 months in advance and i was fresh that day.
The big clincher yesterday was that i overdid it on the legs on Friday. I had my trainer watch my squats on a previous leg workout and he corrected my form, and then he said i was overexerting myself and stopped me. So on Friday when i was working out on my own i went to the same exertion level the trainer warned me about… and did 3 sets instead of just a single set. Felt fine on Friday and Saturday but today the doms got me. Plus im coming down with this damn sore throat.
The last time i got sick was from working out 50 days in a row with no rest days,i was following a linear strength program called “gzclp”. Now im doing ppl and i take rest days
>cardiolet
She had a shit eating grin too lol cuz we’ve gone on runs together as well and no matter what we do im always the one who outlasts her but on Saturday i was falling behind her and she couldn’t get enough of it lol
ah seems to be the perfect storm. This competition seems good and healthy. You are going to make it.
I haven't gotten sick from working out. Worst I got was the psycholgical dread that came from squatting too heavy too frequently.
Was pretty amazing that my favorite thing to do could turn into something I hated doing.
i dont do squats or legday, i am also 5'10
I discovered that if you dont have strong legs lifts become harder, you dont feel stable while walking, your abs become weak.
U need strong legs because at the end they're the pilars of your body and they make you feel safe. Imagine some retard comes and disrespects you, just tackle that retard with your superior legs
body slam a moron
roundhouse kick a moron
Leg muscles are ugly, but they have an inmense utility, so dont forget them
CNS maxxxing
go learn from the bubblegum lobster
Circa 2005ish internet lifting forums got taken over by powerlifters who insisted that all natties, and especially beginners, needed to train like powerlifters. There was a good 10 year stretch where if you were a beginner and asked for lifting advice on the internet, regardless of your goals and starting physique, you were aggressively told to do Starting Strength/Stronglifts and bulk because:
>why would you cut if you have no muscle?
>squats and deadlifts are magic exercises that will cause roid-like surges of test and gh in your body
>isolation exercises are useless because you can't sculpt a muscle that isn't there
>you need a strength base before you can train to build muscle
>only homo ladyboys care about being below 20% bodyfat
and other infamous tenets of broscience. The squat obsession is just the last remnant of that period in internet-lifting lore
Squatting heavy gives me a boner and makes me feel alive
Because manlets are really good at them, and manlets are the majority (surprise surprise).
It's not even a "good" lift btw -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av3LO2GwpAk