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  1. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    The book itself isn't necessarily bad, it describes the main barbell lifts and how to correctly perform them. Ripplebreasts gets flak for the routine associated with the book, which tells you to eat like as much as the average american obeast and focus a bit too much on compounds without too much isolation work

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      In order to grow, you have to have an energy surplus.

      In order to grow, you have to focus on compound exercises that allow you to put enough stress on your major muscle groups to trigger your body to grow.

      There is no NATURAL way to gain muscle without gaining some fat in the process.

  2. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because gaining 40 lbs of pure fat as fast as possible isn't very advantageous to your health.

    Mark Rippetoe is a moron with linear progression. He does this catch-22 thing with people, his progression and program works but you have to eat a like a Christmas dinner pig for it to work.

    People who call onto his show and tell him how the program isn't working get his 3rd degree by being told 'well you ain't eating enough.' They've been lied to about strength and fitness, these dumbies wanted to get a bit stronger and bit faster. Mark has psyoped them into "strength" by forcing them to get fat or die trying.

    Frick him, frick SS, do 5/3/1 or StrongLifts. DONT DO SS EVER

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >dont do starting strength
      >do this thing based on starting strength
      based moron

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Their routines don't call for Total Lean Death.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Does the book really just fricking say that you can get fat and immediately transform that into muscle mass?
      Is this man a fricking genius?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      what about the sheiko programs

  3. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    its perfect but its hard so it makes reddit seethe because they have to squat heavy 3x a week and learn to do power cleans.

    but ya you could add in some more accessories once you get more into it

  4. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing and that''s why it is recommend in /plg/, the only place on this board with people who actually lift.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      its only shilled by the evermediates and isn't recommended other than
      >do something since it doesn't matter as a beginner
      i don't recommended it because people who do ss get caught in the endless cycle of rippetoe nonsense

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        If it was just "do something" then they'd tell you to go frick around, roidiot.

  5. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    a lot of people here have experience with SS. i did and i agree that i was probably eating way more than i needed to. i got stronger though but i did stall because i neglected to do core work and improve my form. i cant stress enough when i say be careful with compounds.

  6. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Nothing and that''s why it is recommend in /plg/, the only place on this board with people who actually lift.

  7. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only thing that could be "wrong" for people is that you will have to gain a lot of weight. Most people think all workouts are bodybuilding routines is what the real problem is.

  8. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get how people reconcile these two:
    1) You have to gain "a lot" of weight to get strong.
    2) 80-90% of gains in weight training are coordinative/fiber-recruitment, not mass-based.

    I also don't get why beginners should do anything with a bar when you can do things with bodyweight exercises.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >2) 80-90% of gains in weight training are coordinative/fiber-recruitment, not mass-based
      This isn't true. You're confusing strength extraction with strength potential.
      Strength extraction is recruitment/co-ordination based, but your potential/accumulated strength is largely based on muscle mass.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        What the frick are you talking about with "strength extraction?"

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          How much of your accumulated/potential strength you can extract. It's a basic principle in powerlifting and strongman. In basic terms a lot of bodybuilders mog powerlifters in lifts for reps, but their max is nowhere near because they haven't trained their nervous system to extract maximum contractile force.

  9. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    The nutritional advice is way over the top, but you'll hardly find better explanations on how to correctly execute the most important lifts.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      How are powerlifts the most important? Aren't they just for showing off the same kind of body everyone thinks looks strong? With how much has changed in research, how is this where we are?

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >How are powerlifts the most important?
        SS doesn't cover all the bases but
        >knee flexion
        >hip hinge
        >vertical press
        >horizontal press
        Are clearly all basic movements you should be strong in.

        SS isn't perfect but beginners are moronic and a simple routine that gets them to progress every session is all they need. Remember, beginners can't autoregulate or tell how many reps in reserve they have or what their RPE is. I took my gf to the gym and she said the bar felt really light benching but she got stapled by 30kg. You can't expect noobs to work anything out for themselves

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why isn't there ever a vertical/horizontal pull, or leg pull? What's the fricking point?

          If SS isn't perfect, what is, and why isn't it out there without 800 hours of fricking recorded shitbox podcast behind it?

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            >vertical/horizontal pull
            There should be, that's the big problem with SS in its raw form. Throwing in some chest supported db rows and/or pullups is a simple fix though.
            >leg pull
            What?

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            >leg pull
            Bruh

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >With how much has changed in research, how is this where we are?
        wat?

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          Powerlifting has been the way it is for a long time. Research into fitness has revealed more information, but the same exact powerlifting methods are used, and most importantly, it's all fricking bar work.
          Why?

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            Because compound exercises are more efficient.
            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5744434/table/T2/?report=objectonly

            If your goal is to spend as much time in the gym as possible, then, of course, you should seek isolation exercises.

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              Compound exercises can be efficient and should be easily made more efficient than just "do the same shitty things that feel like massive injury is oncoming at all times without perfect form."

              >leg pull
              Bruh

              You wouldn't question pushing and pulling with your arms. Why are you not questioning the same with your legs?

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Compound exercises can be efficient and should be easily made more efficient than just "do the same shitty things that feel like massive injury is oncoming at all times without perfect form."
                wat?

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >leg pull
                just being obtuse. millions of practical and athletic examples of an arm push or pull, can't imagine even the most contrived situation where i'd need to pull with my legs.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh for absolute frick's sake.
                You can't imagine using your dumbfrick muscles to fricking lift your fat fricking flat feet off the fricking ground, or using stirrups in any fashion, or kicking something, or fricking getting fricked by your dad while he donkey punches you to make you this stupid and having to buck him off when he forgets to relube?
                Frick you, dude.
                Frick this stupid ass board full of utter goddamned body dysmorphia.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yikes. Go touch grass. Don't be such a gay.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >DO NOT MOVE THE BARBELL

  10. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its perfect for underweight teenagers with an athletic background

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