When did gym culture become so Reddit?

Guys who train from spreadsheets, have calorie counting algorithms, Kanban boards for their progression, etc. Obsession with optimization, terminology, metastudies. Everything laden with an aura of the scientific. Programs are written

It's so sterile and nerdy. When did it go from a bunch of bros with workout routines in their Notes app to wispy, rock-climbing software developers sharing programs written with Emacs?

  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hate normies. Most people are lazy, stupid and just plain pussies, a nice looking app makes it more approachable and cool. Same reason why crossfit is poplar.
    I see nothing wrong with optimization, it's important for strength gainz and longetivity.

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >rock-climbing software developers sharing programs written with Emacs
    Real Emacs users don't need external programs or spreadsheets, they have Emacs. Which begs the question: when did software development culture become so Reddit? When did it go from a bunch of bearded motherfuckers hacking away till 5 in the morning for the pure joy of it to a buch of rock-climbing gays trying to optimize their life and whatever's left of their free time after they leave the sterile office of Shekleberg Corporation, where they write fucking JavaScript in Emacs purely as a fashion statement?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >When did it go from a bunch of bearded motherfuckers hacking away till 5 in the morning for the pure joy of it to a buch of rock-climbing gays trying to optimize their life and whatever's left of their free time
      Once the bearded nerd starts to get paid good $$$ they realize that there much more to life than just hacking

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah. Once the bearded nerds started to get paid good $$$, an army of normies rushed to enter the field purely for the money, despite having zero actual interest in it. Nerds keep nerding away in their basements, while everyone and their mom is taking some shit courses to "become programmes" because it's such a "comfy job" (which it isn't, BTW).

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not him, but that's what happened to me. Started for the joy only, wanted to do something else for work. Ended up taking a job out of necessity and now I make better $$$ than I ever could with anything else. But I don't enjoy it anymore, and I don't want to touch code in my free time

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Waaaaaa I'm bad at math

      I never did it for the joy of it but I also avoid redditscript like the plague. I do it because it pays a ton of money. I have no passion for my job but I could do it for 40 hours a week indefinitely

      Nah. Once the bearded nerds started to get paid good $$$, an army of normies rushed to enter the field purely for the money, despite having zero actual interest in it. Nerds keep nerding away in their basements, while everyone and their mom is taking some shit courses to "become programmes" because it's such a "comfy job" (which it isn't, BTW).

      It's an incredibly comfy job

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      But it works. It's retarded yes, because even though they are technically right they spent 100x the time an ape retard who trains compounds until "me tired" and 400 bucks of workout apparel and belts and shoes and sleeves, they will only achieve a 5% better result if that. But it does work.

      It didn't become more Reddit, it became more mainstream. That's what happens when you have enough code monkeys and make enough money to specialize. Now you don't have one guy autistically optimizing 8086 assembly for a primitive ray casted pseudo-3D flight sim game, you have hundreds of devs specializing in one obscure part of the codebase of a 100k LOC private repo so they can earn GBP with their techlead and get another 2 week paid vacation.

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    if you say this then you have no right to complain about an obese population
    be glad these people are lifting in the first place

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Seriously the more fit and jacked I get the more unhealthy and disgusting and fat I realize the vast majority of everyone are becoming, and OP already is

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tracking and planning volume is the single best way to progress. Stay small.

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Spreadsheet

    Not everyone uses Google sheets to track their progress?
    >Rock-climbing software developers sharing program written with emacs

    I'm vim guy but this is based

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm vim guy
      >the fisher price version of vi

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I unironically track my fucking lifting progress in emacs.
      Fite me.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        So do I, in org-mode.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Based!
          I don't use org-mode though, fuck all those cusom property drawers. I straight up use JSON.

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's the difference between Ancients (gym bros) and Philosophes (nerds). Bioscience works because gym bros believe it will. All basedance says the once a week body split does nothing. All basedance says half the supplements meatheads take are pointless. Yet you've got dudes walking around with 20" arms. It's alchemy. It's placebo meme magic. Call it whatever you want.

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's how it used to be here before you fucking subhumans came in.

    IST used to be overwhelmingly high IQ autistic people and we deployed a blunt analytic approach to problem solving. We were never like Reddit but we sure were massive fucking nerds.

    Now all of you fucking midwit normies have come in and the decline in IQ and autism on these boards is palpable.

    The difference between IST and Reddit isn't that they're nerds and we're intuitive chad-magnons. The difference between IST and Reddit is that they're highly agreeable and we're highly disagreeable. We're both massive fucking nerds (although we are the kind of nerd that sits alone behind the shed down on the oval during lunch whereas they are the kind of nerd who plays yu-ghi-oh in the library with his nerd friends).

    >"i-i'm not a nerd"
    THEN FUCK OFF NORMALgay.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gym rats have always had a demographic within them that are detail obsessed, OCD weirdo's with hard on's for optimizing and maximizing every small detail and variable.

      Thread

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Gym rats have always had a demographic within them that are detail obsessed, OCD weirdo's with hard on's for optimizing and maximizing every small detail and variable.
        This, more or less, but

        >When did it go from a bunch of bros with workout routines in their Notes app to wispy, rock-climbing software developers sharing programs written with Emacs?
        It's because a lot of nerdy programmers want to spend a lot of time farting around with spreadsheets and not a lot of time lifting fucking heavy weights. For the vast majority of them, their time would be better spent just picking up heavier shit in the gym consistently, but that actually involves effort. They can feel just as good autistically obsessing over a spreadsheet, as if it somehow will guarantee their fitness.

        It's the same problem across a lot of Reddit, really. They can't just start off small, they gotta burn countless hours trying to find ~the best~ way to do something and not actually doing the thing. For example, they'll decide to get into coffee and spend 10 hours researching coffee machines instead of, you know, sitting down and drinking some coffee to figure out if they even like it.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is something IST does a lot when it comes to beginner programs, and to a lesser extent getting girls. The best program for most beginners is "any popular program that gets you into the gym for the number of days you want to be in there". The best dating advice for /LULZ/ emigrants is "anything, anywhere, that gets you talking to girls your age"

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          M8 I could program my own notes app, on which I'd program my own fitness tracking app, through which I'd create a perfectly optimized workout routine, all within the time it takes your powershitting ass to rest between sets.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >create muh perfectly optimized workout routine, all within the time it takes your powershitting ass to rest between sets
            And in 3 years you'll still by a weak, DYEL vegan gay with a 30" chest, no back or legs. If only your results were "optimized."

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Gym rats have always had a demographic within them that are detail obsessed, OCD weirdo's with hard on's for optimizing and maximizing every small detail and variable.
        And they always look the same. I couldn't tell you how many times I've seen these 150lb Ian mccarthy looking mfers trying to explain how to "optimally" press dumbbells.

        Thing is, doing it in a spreadsheet makes it gay, effete, and reddit.

        >Thing is, doing it in a spreadsheet makes it gay, effete, and reddit.
        Exactly. I've got log books from the past 15 years. Couldn't imagine pressing buttons on a phone and entering reps of sets into a fucking app or goddamn spreadsheet.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >>Gym rats have always had a demographic within them that are detail obsessed, OCD weirdo's with hard on's for optimizing and maximizing every small detail and variable.
          >And they always look the same. I couldn't tell you how many times I've seen these 150lb Ian mccarthy looking mfers trying to explain how to "optimally" press dumbbells.
          not exactly.. https://www.youtube.com/user/VigorousSteve

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not here because I'm a nerd, I'm actually pretty well off, I'm here to leak nude photos of my exes gradually over time. We are not the same.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Blessed post.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based and gradual decline of all that is beautifull pilled

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based and trithpulled

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    this is what happens when you tell a bunch of stem nerds to lift... like what exactly did you think would happen, that they'd turn into frat boys or something? lol

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd say it started with Rippetoe who made barbell training accessible to average joes back when youtube fitness was mostly broscience
    Then submax training was getting more popular, with 531, gzcl, Sheiko and others which started the spreadsheet obsession
    Now we have RPE and science based training which attracts all the soi lifters who need to min/max everything

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >why do people use spreadsheets to record a bunch of numbers
    Truly one of the biggest mysteries of our times.

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I really enjoyed doing nsuns, just takes too long when I moved to lifting in the morning before work

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    DUDE LE SELF-IMPROVEMENT INCELEXIT JUSTL IFT AND GAIN CONFIDENCE MY FELLOW REDDITORS

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Technique based society. Everything that can be optimized will be through technical advancement. Read the Technical Society for more information.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Technique based society
      nah, its RPG based nerdy shit. people who do this crap are min/maxing their body like a fucking RPG character

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    yet the biggest guys still follow the
    >just lift lmao
    routine with generous portions of chicken rice and broccoli

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Making spreadsheets is Reddit now
    I fucking hate this board.

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's powershitter influence and even that shit doesn't actually do anything. If you're not genetically gifted you'll still get stuck on that shit just like anything else while genetically gifted people can do whatever and get gains. I know one that's popular is made by a redditor that dedicated his life to powerlifting and he's still only a 1200 total. Plus, if you just went into the gym and bodybuild while focusing on trying to do better each session you wouldn't have the powershitter thunderthighs and 14" arms they all get. It seems like the eternal reddit powerlifter (who actually wants to be a bodybuilder) seems to think that only powerlifters invented the hard science of writing down what you did that day and trying to beat it next time.

    Also, $$$ selling programming.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Actually just wants to be a bodybuilder and look good naked
      >Gets sucked into powerlifting culture, only does powerlifting routines, too attached to his numbers
      What causes this and why is it so common?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Big number = Big likes on TikTok

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Hey, guys can anybody recommend me a good bodybuilding routine for beginners
        >IST: ...
        >Do the same for strength training
        >*20 people are trying to sell you on their program of choice*

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    i think you're overthinking it. you can apply as much to programming and lifting as you want. if its your thing to just rock up and do whatever you feel, sure, but it's not close to an 'optimal' workout for making strength or size gains. it's just something people do. tracking lifts absolutely makes sense for applying basic principles like progressive overload jfc

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    How the fuck are you supposed to progress otherwise.

    This is stuff people have been doing for decades, except of instead of spreadsheets they would write it on paper.

    How are you supposed to track your progress?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thing is, doing it in a spreadsheet makes it gay, effete, and reddit.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      moron :
      >week 1: x weight
      >week 2: weight goes up, more reps
      Here you go : progress

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    because the less work you do on a day-to-day basis the easiest is to keep up with it

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I use a notebook and do the same lifts every day.
    It's working out pretty well.

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dude, if you know what Emacs is... I think your projecting

  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >taking notes more efficaciously is bad
    Why are IST posters of late trying to portray themselves as luddites? Do you know where you are? Are you lost?

  23. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good thread

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically one of the best threads on IST that I've seen in a while.

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