When did you realise strength = size is a meme?

I finally learned after I hit 2 plate OHP and 3 plate bench while looking like a lanky dyel at 6'3 185lb. I put far too much trust into you cunts and should have done my own due diligence. I liken the feeling to fall for a money scam.

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Strength != Size but
    Strength = Ability to grow size
    Just start lifting for hypertrophy now that you can move respectable numbers.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Strength = Ability to grow size
      It's literally the opposite. You're capped on how strong you can get based on muscle size and cross-sectional muscle fiber density. Strength training is quite literally a waste of time because it's just hyper specific neuroadaptations to barbell lifts that don't bleed over into any real sport. This is why brosplitters don't have problems hitting a 2pl8 bench but then people do SS do have an issue regularly.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Strength training is quite literally a waste of time because it's just hyper specific neuroadaptations to barbell lifts that don't bleed over into any real sport
        Peak retardation at work here. Sports strength and condition are supplemented with weight work.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Should've done PPL instead

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Are you thinking of powerlifting specifically? The form powerlifters use is not meant to activate muscle, but to reduce the ROM as much as possible. Ranking by range of motion of the pectorals specifically:
        cable crossovers > dumbbell press > close grip bench > wide grip bench > powerlifter style bench.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The form powerlifters use is not meant to activate muscle, but to reduce the ROM as much as possible
          Strength is a result of using as many of your available muscle fibers are possible. Saying powerlifters don't activate muscle is like saying running doesn't use your legs.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Retard, I didn't say they don't activate muscle. I said their form was not designed for it.
            The form they use on their lifts were designed to make moving weight as easy as possible.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I realized it long time ago but I have conclusively made my mind on it after seeing videos like these.
    https://www.tiktok.com/@ehss_fit/video/7114739690099526917

    Literal fucking dyel repping 42,5kg dumbbells at 58kg bodyweight lmfao.

    https://www.tiktok.com/@coeurlymonster/video/7135108697390386437?
    Then this dyel femoid benching 110kg

    and finally this lanklet dyel doing 220kg here (has videos of 250kg)
    https://www.tiktok.com/@nabil90000/video/7132915800213687557?

    it's just so painfully obvious that strength does not correlate with size. if you want to look like a bodybuilder, you need to train like a bodybuilder.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      On all three of these, it looks to me like they're using a minimal range of motion in order to move as much weight as possible. (The guy doing deadlifts looks like he has alright form, but the deadlift itself is a low-ROM exercise.)
      You're expecting them to look like bodybuilders, but none of them train like bodybuilders.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        meh not really they all seemed fine. I mean 1RM is a 1RM. The point kinda is to perform your literal one rep maximum.
        I'm not saying that they are performing elite tier lifts but those are solid equivalents of 1/2/3/4 and stronger. 110kg bench (skinny woman) and 250kg deadlift for that guy is like 5,5pl8 but they look like first month lifters.

        and personally i think the 42,5kg dumbbell bench press for 5 reps was the "craziest" one at 58kg bodyweight. i know people with muscles 2 if not 3 times bigger that use 30-35kg for similar working sets.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        except for the foid the examples have normal ROM, it's just that muscle size does not correlate with strength and you don't wanna accept it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If that example of dumbbell press looked good to you then you can't be helped. Best of luck, bro.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            the range of motion looked completely normal in the dumbbell bench wtf are you talking about retard

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Those are impressive lifts. I feel like a lot of people ignore how much of strength is tendons and CNS adaptation. I've lost nearly all my muscle mass from ten years of barely lifting, yet I constantly surprise myself with residual strength from training. I'm smaller at 40 than I was at 18, but you can't even compare how strong I am now to that weakling.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No shit retard
    If all you do is bench for your chest, and OHP for your shoulders in a low rep range you're knowingly doing movements that incorporate lots of parts of your body
    Of course isolations are going to grow individual muscles better, and also bodybuilding training means hitting the mostly neglected muscles

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Like a week into doing research about working out...

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    First of all, why is this autist your pic for this thread
    Secondly, yes it was a very hard pill to swallow that my 5x5 training was useless for my goals

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly the funniest thing is realising that machines are actually based despite the non stop crying from SS powershitters on this board and in the wider fitness community for fucking years
    They keep telling me that I just need a big bench for a bigger chest but the moment I started destroying my chest with a squeeze with the machine flyes my chest dwarfed the rest of my body. Never looked back.
    The machine preacher curls > ez bar too

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Dubs of truth.
      Love the Smith machine especially as substitute for a hack squat machine.
      Love cables for its overall versatility.
      Love the good girl bad girl machine because it targets the very neglected adductors and abductors (if you don't do lunges)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Every machine loving gay looks dyel it's literally a cope for low-responders

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Through beginner (strength) gains and CNS adaptation you can gain quite a bit of strength even if you aren't eating right. Starting out skinny I got to 1/2/3/4 having gained "only" 17lbs. That's still good gains of course but it just took me from skeleton to DYEL. Now making any progress from there was virtually impossible for me without gaining more weight though.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How long did it take you to get to 1/2/3/4?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        2.5 years

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This guy was so fucking creepy. The one person lifting couldn’t have saved. Should have been euthanized as a child tbqh.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nah, size obviously depends on how heavy you are. If you are 191cm and don't even weight 90kg (185lbs is like 84kg) obviously you gonna look not as big as you could. You can easily put on 22lbs of extra mass and still be lean. So it's not completely true that strength doesn't equal size. If you have the most important factor calculated, which is overall weight, then strength will equal size.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      But that is still not the complete picture since the strentgh of your individual exercises will dictate your physique. Meaning if the mass is more accumulated on the legs or the chest and shoulders or the arms or the back will depend on the way you trained.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    anyone telling beginners that want to have a good looking body to start doing "strength training" is a moron fatass or another russian shilling starting strength to get men of fight age to injure their backs
    and the garden gnomes love it when people suggest barbell training because your herniated disc gives Dr Goldberg, Dr Douglas, and Dr Shekel lots of money to "treat" your permanent injury

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      every strength routine starts light so you can focus on form. do things correctly and you wont snap your shit up

      stay off 4chan and start lifting

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        like an absolute beginner who sat on a chair his whole life is going to know how to do things correctly, "lightly", or with great form
        form doesnt matter, technique does

        the fat fuck with sever atrophy, stiffness, and muscular imbalances all over his body will get nothing out of barbell squats, nor should he be doing deadlifts

        thats why all these fatties with injuries and problems from longterm sitting ALWAYS give up or just end up hurting themselves more
        fat nerds online love telling people how to workout but theyre scared to do any real bodybuilding that isn't what the fat guy said to do

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >like an absolute beginner who sat on a chair his whole life is going to know how to do things correctly, "lightly", or with great form
          >form doesnt matter, technique does

          damn. if only there was a way to learn these things

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            damn. if only people learned these things without still injuring themselves
            unfortunately the number of back injuries sky rocketing with the popularity of "strength training" say otherwise

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Back injuries happen from bad deadlifts and squats the most often if we exclude cleans.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      like an absolute beginner who sat on a chair his whole life is going to know how to do things correctly, "lightly", or with great form
      form doesnt matter, technique does

      the fat fuck with sever atrophy, stiffness, and muscular imbalances all over his body will get nothing out of barbell squats, nor should he be doing deadlifts

      thats why all these fatties with injuries and problems from longterm sitting ALWAYS give up or just end up hurting themselves more
      fat nerds online love telling people how to workout but theyre scared to do any real bodybuilding that isn't what the fat guy said to do

      Yes so people who hate barbell movements are the dumb disgusting fat fucks who were dyel beforehand and snapped their shit up being retarded

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Volume = Size.
    Strength = Maximum output of force.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    post body, I refuse to believe anyone with 2 pl8 press and 3 pl8 bench can look bad, even if you're 6"3

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You're a stupid fucking retard. Holy fuck. Are you too brainstarved to realise that it's mostly neurological adaptations?

      You shitbreathed SStard.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Napoleon syndrome kek
        If you get this worked up over something on this board you should probably kys

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's yet another IST larp

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    idk man, i feel like i made some solid gains from doing heavy cheat rows & push press
    i think intensity is the ultimate overall growth factor
    lotta powersharters train like fucking pussies, a 335lb wide grip arch back bench achieved with 3 years of 4x6 @ RPE 5.5 is inconclusive to size or true strength

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Size and strength are tightly correlated but only when you’re lifting light weight. By the time you’re at 1/2/3/4 they really start to diverge
    Source: this pic of me when I benched 3pl8

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ?? 3pl8 is 315lbs not 186lbs

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      just bench 5 plates to look good shirtless bro

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My younger bro is much bigger and i beat him at arm wrestling v easy.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    stfu you LULZ cuck

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