When is too late to better yourself and get?

>be 22 years old loser NEET
>getting IST takes 5-10 years
>getting a valuable university degree takes 5-6 years
>making good money off a career takes another 5-10 years
>saving up for a house and a car takes another 5-10 years
>tfw will be 35 when I finally make it
>tfw it's too late then to get a girlfriend because dating in your late twenties to thirties is horrible
>tfw no family and all the success is worthless
I have a hard time accepting this. Time is the biggest gains goblin.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >lifting for women
    doomed right from the start

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You should have your bachelor's degree already at age 22, and be heading into employment, so you're starting late. Shouldn't have lazed around smoking weed after high school.

    Go get a tradie job instead.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >22
      *20
      if you're too retarded having more time is irrelevant anyway

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you should have graduated from college by the time you're 20
        bro I skipped a grade and I was still 21 by the time I graduated. Only person I knew in college who graduated younger was the prodigy who got in at 12.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You sound pretty stupid, though. So I doubt your story.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ivy league STEM degree so guess again

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >demoralization process complete

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How many years will it take for you to stop making excuses, anon?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wrong. Getting IST takes like 2-3 years of effort. Everything after that becomes rapidly marginal gains. Going to university takes 3-4 years unless you're an absolute retard. And if you are a retard you're probably poor too, so if you go to a middling university they basically give you money to attend. Don't buy a house rn retard, we're at the top of a bubble and about to crash. Same with cars. Game the system as much as you can. If nogs can get ebt then so can you.

    >dating in your late 20s blah blah
    Find a girlfriend when you're young then retard? Find friends when you're doing university, or join a sport or some shit. Before all that though, figure out what you even want from life and what success means to you. It sounds like you're just parroting Everyman opinions on what "making it" is, when that isn't even what you want. Figure your shit out anon and make a plan. Then you'll make it. Doesn't matter what age you are.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Going to university takes 3-4 years unless you're an absolute retard
      No, getting a Bachelors and Masters in computer science at a decent uni takes 5-6 years, especially if you have to work part-time due to being poor.
      Girls are not interesting in late-bloomers. They date the young tall handsome guys who are already finished with their education at 25 and have good careers. I am still in uni at their age. Girls hate men who are still running the marathon of life, they only pick the winners.

      >muh get a GF
      If she's wont love you at your DYEL, she doesn't deserve you at your peak. Also shit tier motivation for lifting
      >muh lost progress
      getting fit doesn't take 5-10 years, this is an excuse you tell yourself to justify laziness
      >university degree
      as someone entering his last year of undergrad at 22 (pre-med) unless you've got a real passion for something in particular, fuck college and learn a trade. You'll be making more than I probably ever will.
      >muh success is worthless
      you haven't done shit, it seems like. Family, relationships, and tbf life happens when you're actually doing stuff and cultivating success

      Stop being sad and start doing life

      I want to do computer science and become a software engineer, I am enrolling into Uni this year but it will be a hard and long journey before I earn money and call myself successful and be attractive to girls. By the time I made it every good girl will be taken and I am afraid I will die alone. 22 is fucking old.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You sure seem to know a lot about life and woman for a 22 year old neet.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Go to church and pray for a wife, maybe God and some woman there will take pity on you.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they only pick the winners
        start fucking winning then. lol
        also, your idea of women is wrong. 38 y/o fry cooks can get mad ladies; contrary to popular belief women aren't only choosing the hyper successful elite of wealthy and buff men to get in a relationship with. That might be somewhat true for tinder but apps are largely for casual sex. and if you're gonna meet someone worth spending years with it's probably not on tinder lmao, it's gonna be in your daily life.

        Next point: "life" isn't a marathon you can just finish and retire, enjoying all the fine things life has to offer. Real people work, have jobs, go to uni, the gym, etc. It's like going to the gym; once your hard work has paid off and your gains start to level out you can't just quit the gym and start sucking down Baja Blasts all day.
        Life really is the journey rather than the destination.

        My unsolicited advice for enrolling to uni:
        >have fun. meet friends, lift, etc. don't just surround yourself in schoolwork
        >find whatever school you plan to attend and see their course list for your major. take the bullshit gen-ed classes at a community college; it's cheaper and often easier.
        >summer classes are great. I regret wasting previous summers just smoking, gaming, and working. Just look out for burnout.
        >actually learn the content in your important/major-related classes, don't just show up to get a grade so you can take more classes. I made that mistake and now have so much to straight up memorize it's alarming.

        CompSci is a good path to be on, and 22 really isn't that old. Hang in there anon

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Girls are not interesting in late-bloomers. They date the young tall handsome guys who are already finished with their education at 25 and have good careers
        Absolute retard take. Women are attracted to men older than them. Those successful in their teens and early 20s look mature for their age.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >No, getting a Bachelors and Masters in computer science at a decent uni takes 5-6 years,
        Go to IST and you will see a lot of woman "programers" with just a html, css, js bootcamp of 4 months flexing his lifestyle on tiktok
        >fake
        Still 1 year of self tough programming will save you from the meme signatures and the college debt

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Girls are not interesting in late-bloomers. They date the young tall handsome guys who are already finished with their education at 25 and have good careers. I am still in uni at their age. Girls hate men who are still running the marathon of life, they only pick the winners.

        >By the time I made it every good girl will be taken and I am afraid I will die alone. 22 is fucking old

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What a retarded post. The people who have a girlfriend are the ones who lives through a normal timeline and not a high-school -> NEET one. OP is an outlier but correct on his observations on women.
          Your post is like a tall guy with a girlfriend saying you need to be tall to get a girlfriend.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Really? That's funny because I was also an incel NEET after high school. Guess what gay? I turned my life around and now I've had plenty of women.
            22 is not old you retarded zoomer.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            didnt read and cope

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well, how tall are you

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's never too late to get IST. Your goals and capacity may change as you age but physical self improvement can almost always occur. Do something rather than nothing even if it's not ideal. If you choose to sit on your ass and do nothing that's on you, just know that there's some 70yr old guy doing pushups somewhere who's mogging the shit out you.

    As far as getting a girlfriend you're just going to have to add that to the list of things you're going to do while doing the rest of it. It's not a fucking MMO, you don't hit a certain level and then unlock. Find someone who wants to support and maybe join you in your journey of continuous self improvement. Find someone you want to support and join in continuous self improvement. Get better and do better. Posting about how difficult it might be on fucking IST is not helping you accomplish anything. You cannot make it if you do not make it happen.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your 30s is just a re-do at your 20s. Don't waste your 20s lamenting about the future when you could be working on it instead.

    Speaking from experience.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    22 is a baby and the time is gonna pass anyway. Might as well work toward something.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >muh get a GF
    If she's wont love you at your DYEL, she doesn't deserve you at your peak. Also shit tier motivation for lifting
    >muh lost progress
    getting fit doesn't take 5-10 years, this is an excuse you tell yourself to justify laziness
    >university degree
    as someone entering his last year of undergrad at 22 (pre-med) unless you've got a real passion for something in particular, fuck college and learn a trade. You'll be making more than I probably ever will.
    >muh success is worthless
    you haven't done shit, it seems like. Family, relationships, and tbf life happens when you're actually doing stuff and cultivating success

    Stop being sad and start doing life

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can get an engineering degree in like 3 years here + 1 for a title that doesn't do anything but give slightly higher pay that will take decades to become worth. If a woman knows you are an appreciating asset then why would she not be with you if she is attracted to you? Many women date literal bums that live in their mum's basement.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the only making it is getting off of IST

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's never too late. Only when you're in your death bed.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >22
    >being this demoralized
    Alright you should just have a nice day now, you're never gonna make it if you're this much of a bitch.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lmfao gay
    i started my first year of uni at 22
    it takes like 1-2 years to be fit by normie standards unless you are a hambeast
    uni is literally the place to meet girls/potential wife
    unless you chose a meme degree your current success wont be a problem to any decent wife material, theyll understand that the success will come later

    honestly it sounds like your biggest problem is being a whiny gay who will rather lay down and rot than try to improve his situation

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >uni is literally the place to meet girls/potential wife
      He is going into computer science, he will be an incel for all his uni years.
      >your current success wont be a problem to any decent wife material, theyll understand that the success will come later
      Lmao if you really think this is how girls think. They will dump him for someone who is already into his career but younger.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Brah I'll be 29 next month and I'm two years into my comp sci degree. I only started working out at 27 and am already fitter than I ever was in my life before. I've always been a lanklet and now my shoulders are so boulder-like that I look like a god everytime I wear a t-shirt. I look like I'm in my early twenties and I swear to you bro, I have never had it so easy with uni-aged girls than I do right now at this stage in my life.

    The time is going to pass no matter what you say or do. It doesn't matter whether you accept that it's going to take time to make it. Do you wanna be 35 and still haven't made it? Do the things that you need to do and stop feeling sorry for yourself. I WISH I was still 22 my man. I would've done everything differently

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >>be 22 years old loser NEET
    I thought you were in school for computer engineering? You changing your character around again, ginger snaps?

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've read israelis start uni at 22 due to being in the military so you're on par with the rabbis.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well, I had to do a year of civil service which is mandatory in my country, so you can say I "only" wasted 3 years the time I turned 19.

      I'm 32 years old and I have none of these things, apart from being moderately fit
      I recommend you at least learn/study for an interesting job like something that agrees with your temperament and at least have enough money to be comfy because once you're 30+years it's over, if you haven't received formation you'll be condemned to menial labor and trust me you don't want that if you have the 'tism

      Man, I cannot even imagine living past 30. Why? What even is there anymore? You work, go to the gym, come home tired, go to sleep, wake up, go to work....
      Can any anon please tell me what live past 30 looks like for a man?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Meditation helps.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ugh I wanna punch you in the face, anon. The 'life is over after 30' meme is simply that--a meme. It's only miserable after 30 if you're still living like you're a 22 year old neet! If you even make a modicum of effort right now then by 30+ you will have the facets in place in your life to actually enjoy it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >"you will have the facets in place in your life to actually enjoy it"
          >cognitive abilities declining
          >fertility declining
          >testosterone declining
          >face is visibly aging
          >dating is absolutely horrible because your options are bottom 0.1% trash which would make your life so miserable that all your success is rendered worthless
          Huh?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >huh??
            Literally none of that is true though you Austrian ginger gay. Also you didn't answer my question before, why have you changed characters again? "You" were in school before, now you're a neet?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            T doesn't actually decline that much until your 40s and 50s and even then a lot of the decline is due to activity level. It is mostly a cope by people who want to sell shit or are angry men don't get menopause. Get on retin-a, finasteride, sunscreen, lots of sleep, not drinking or smoking, Cardio, Lifting, Getting a job. Date and find a girl while doing all of the above. I know many late 20s guys with early 20s girls so dunno what you are afraid of. You will hopefully look better than the average dude who doesn't do any of the above.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Why? What even is there anymore?
        For me it's just going through the motions until I die, I don't have the drive and opportunities to change my situation and I lack the courage to end it. That's why being qualified enough for some comfy job that you could do remotely for example is at least a minimum requirement for a depressed autistic fag.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm 32 years old and I have none of these things, apart from being moderately fit
    I recommend you at least learn/study for an interesting job like something that agrees with your temperament and at least have enough money to be comfy because once you're 30+years it's over, if you haven't received formation you'll be condemned to menial labor and trust me you don't want that if you have the 'tism

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Similar situation OP, 22 almost 23, just got out of the military, currently unemployed, no degree, 75lbs overweight. Every day is a coin flip wether I'm gonna kms.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hey, I got out last October. You will literally get paid to go to college assuming you got out honorably. I’m making pretty close to double what I made as a specialist with just the GI bill money and a part time job for 21 an hour. Nothings over man, just gotta get up.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    your young start now, you'll regreting it so much more when your 30 and start lifting. if you get fit by 30, you have 30 years of being fit and enjoying life. and thats not including your 20s of self improvement and enjoyment.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Trash thread
    Go to uni at any age you want. You are expected to wagecuck for 2 x your entire life so far

    Also
    >adding all the years together
    Everything in your list can be done in parallell

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