Which path? Light path (pull ups). >more functional strength. >trains stabilizer muscles. >will make you leaner

Which path?

Light path (pull ups)
>more functional strength
>trains stabilizer muscles
>will make you leaner
>looks cooler, more mires

Dark path (lat pulldown)
>easier to train to failure
>difficulty doesn't change with bodyweight
>overall more strength gains
>0 mires unless full stack reps

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why not both?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      how about the path where OP burns alive in a furnace for making shit threads?

      nah frick yall, you only get to pick one exercise between these two for the rest of your life. pussy israelite boy Mike israetel and his mesocycles and exercise variation can ligma balls, you're perma doing one or the other and you can never do the other one.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They are redundant. Doing one decreases your performance on the other. It's better to just pick one and you could possibly do the other as an accessory.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Doing one decreases your performance on the other.
        I have to stop coming here. You gays are morons.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          So what. This talk about accessories and performance is gay.

          So you should be trying to have efficient workouts. Why do an unoptimal exercise that you've already covered just to say you did both of them. That's called junk volume. Pick one. They have clear differences depending on the type of training you're into.
          For example a powerlifter might prefer the lat pulldown because he can do more reps.
          A Calisthenics person may choose pull ups because it trains the stabilizers.

          If you're doing both, it means you haven't specialized your training and you're likely spinning your wheels with your inefficiency

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >you should be trying to have efficient workouts. Why do an unoptimal exercise that you've already covered just to say you did both of them
            If you had a brain, you would have found out the various ways you can do both and get maximum benefits.
            >They have clear differences depending on the type of training you're into
            Not really.
            >a powerlifter might prefer the lat pulldown because he can do more reps
            A powerlifter uses the exercise to further strengthen the lats as part of his hypertrophy work (yes, any good powerlifter does hypertrophy work) since big stronger lats help with deadlift. They could also choose the pull up or weighted pull ups to do the same.
            >A Calisthenics person may choose pull ups because it trains the stabilizers.
            Standing up straight trains the stabilizers. Every muscle is a stabilizer. Is it enough to matter during pull ups to choose pull ups for this purpose? Past the beginner phase, no. When you are technically competent with either lift it doesn't make a difference, your stabilizers get zero from the motion.
            >If you're doing both, it means you haven't specialized your training and you're likely spinning your wheels with your inefficiency
            An incredibly moronic statement. Specialization is unspecified. There is specialization as in trying to maximize certain lifts for a contest in which case it's moronic to worry about it as I've never heard of a pulldown contest and pullups are much more niche than squat+deadlift+BP or the typical strongman events. Then there is a bodybuilding specialization routine in which case it doesn't matter what exercises you do so long as they hammer the chosen muscle group. Your inefficiency claim also collapses in light of yourself not being able to perceive the ways which someone can do both. I won't explain it, rather, I'd let you think about it.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >wall of text
              It's one or the other. Doing both is dumb

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >complains about receiving a wall of text after posting a wall of text
                Are you moronic?
                >It's one or the other.
                No. It's not. If you had a brain, you'd see this and how it would be done.
                >Doing both is dumb
                If you really want to pretend that it is, you can post on reddit. I'm sure their IQ scores would be closer to yours though still a little higher.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They are redundant. Doing one decreases your performance on the other. It's better to just pick one and you could possibly do the other as an accessory.

            I didn't read, but you are wrong
            >Day A: Pull-ups
            >Day B: Pull-downs
            I do barbell rows on day C.
            Why? On day B I am fried other lifts by the time I get to my vertical pull, there are bunch of reasons why someone wouldn't spam pull-ups only.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So what. This talk about accessories and performance is gay.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        moronic take. Post body

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's stupid. Life saying you should ever only do one set, as it will decrease your performance on following sets.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          But is your first set not your best set? Now imagine you're doing both (3x5 + 3x5 ) 6x5 of the same exercise. When does it become redundant?

          [...]
          I didn't read, but you are wrong
          >Day A: Pull-ups
          >Day B: Pull-downs
          I do barbell rows on day C.
          Why? On day B I am fried other lifts by the time I get to my vertical pull, there are bunch of reasons why someone wouldn't spam pull-ups only.

          Sounds like a terrible routine.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I DL'ed 4pl8 for 6 reps today and it was easy

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This is like saying dumbbell rows reduce your performance on barbell rows

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how about the path where OP burns alive in a furnace for making shit threads?

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    For me? It's the Tbar row

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i started doing these but man they frick my hands up when using the handlebar grip thing people use for lat pulldowns

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      See these are cool till you get too strong and bust that attachment at the end

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You activated my Trap Card!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Kills me that it's an anime only card. That's the best card art ever

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They do tend to be similar, however I always do left whenever I start working out as my warming so…

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Dark path (lat pulldown)
    more strength gains
    Lol, fatfrick spotted. Pullups are better than pulldowns in every way as long as you're able to do them. You can do them weighted, right OP?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ido both. I love doing 1.2x bw lt pulldowns then finish up launching up with the bar.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Imma be honest for building muscle definitley the lat pulldown. Just cause you can fine tune the load to fit the level of exhaustion youre at. You can do drop sets, you can spend more time controlling the weight and squeezing and aposed to getting sloppy just to get your chin over the bar.

    In terms of training to climb shit and actual pullup would be better.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >pull ups will make you leaner
    lmao post body dyel

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Pull down difficulty does change with bodyweight.
    If you are 70kg and pull down 75kg, you need to be strapped down, and so yes, I'd say that is bad game design.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dark path (lat pulldown)
    >easier to train to failure
    No, just add weights to pull ups
    >difficulty doesn't change with bodyweight
    Being fat is a bad thing
    >overall more strength gains
    See item 1
    >0 mires unless full stack reps
    Because it’s for people who get filtered by pull ups and others instinctively know this because they either get filtered themselves or realize the achievement of pull ups because they do it themselves.

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