White pill thread?

i'll start
>The people who are tellling you not to change want to bring you down to their level
>anyone at any age can start changing themself for the better
>some part of your genes are under your control look up epigenetics
>most people dont care too much about look unlike the internet would like to make you believe however being fit helps a lot
>Even assuming only 0.1% of women dont follow the rules of the blackpill that's still millions of women to choose from
>when you start you'll do somenthing wrong just find out what works for you since science is mostly a meme nowdays
>God is up there and ready to help you if ya ask him
>natty limit and rest days are a joke just sleep and keep lifting heavy shit

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >radicalization
      Yep, that's me. The list of groups I hate grows ever larger and the solution seems to be "I wish I was in charge of everything and fit enough to physically beat everyone who disagrees with me, then maybe finally these fucks will become virtuous and all these problems will go away". I feel constant anger directed at everyone and everything, but women and minorities in particular.

      Go on without me, it is my destiny to be miserable and do squats fueled by hate until I'm strong enough to bear abstract concepts like time and evil.

      Also this whole "forgiving your enemies" thing is hard as balls. I just can't do it, there's always this part of me that screams that the people who do harm to others (me in particular, I'll be honest) shouldn't be allowed to just get away with it. "Oh yes thank you for shitting all over me ma'am, would you like a complimentary mint as you vote my rights away and marginalize my problems?".

      I don't walk the path of rage because it's pleasant or even easy, I walk it because I can't do anything else.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, you don’t have to hold anger towards them anymore. Hate their evils, and be so good that they see the evil in themselves.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Based

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I saw that chart and thought the same.

        Done so much work on myself and am still working because I ultimately refuse to give up, but only 10-20% of my mindset is self improvement, the rest 80-90% is just hate at people who apparently have an easier life, mostly low quality women. Maybe I’m just a low quality person so that’s all I see but it gets so fucking annoying.

        For a girl it’s
        >just don’t be fat, be skinny
        >wear yoga pants
        >guys will want to fuck you and will give you attention

        I don’t even hate the top 0.001% of guys who get all the girls easy as fuck because it’s not their fault, they don’t make choices for women they just reap the rewards of being conventionally super attractive. I’ve seen disabled girls who put on makeup and act like hoes…. Still get dudes. I know some disabled guys - one of them literally wanted to learn another language to simp for one particular girl.

        The world is cruel as fuck and even though I am probably in top 10% of guys (have a gf, have had fuck buddies before, am very jacked), it’s not enough. I’ll never know the feel of being a young chad that people just drool over for some reason, probably by 30 I’ll become a total slayer and have the pick of any girl I want and make tonnes of money - but what I am mad at is that I shouldn’t have to work so hard for this. I’m fucking mad at inequality and why even after purposefully working sales jobs to develop social skills I am still socially behind at least 50% of the people I see on a daily, I literally don’t even understand what “flirting” is. I have zero fucking game. Some guys smile at a girl and 5 mins later she will fuck him. This is why I hate

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I see Andrew Tate as someone that beat self development - by his guesses his body count is 600-700, and he is rich and cool now but HE IS 35

          I’ve fucking known guys who have several hundred whilst still in college, not rich at all, not a fucking cool and exciting person who travels the world daily and drives super cars

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous
            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              based message. "Love" doesn't exist, it's just ingrained to us from the media from a young age.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >t. someone who has never been loved

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                define love in no uncertain terms

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                love is very deep friendship Hispaniced up with sex

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                NTA, but as much positivity being thrown around in this thread, I reject love.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                and it will reject you

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It already did, January 9, 2020. The day of my path to awakening

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                and it will reject you

                based love accepting dubs getter

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Checked.
                His effort is noble, but my will is set.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                checked, fucking three in a row

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Actually I'm

                Checked.
                His effort is noble, but my will is set.

                ,

                NTA, but as much positivity being thrown around in this thread, I reject love.

                , and

                It already did, January 9, 2020. The day of my path to awakening

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                try veganism (code for gay buttsex)

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                and it will reject you

                https://i.imgur.com/xdV0kOx.jpg

                [...]
                based love accepting dubs getter

                Checked.
                His effort is noble, but my will is set.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe you just have a flawed definition of love then.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Everyone has a different definition of love because it doesn't exist. The feeling of emotions is subjective AF. You sound like a narcissist or someone who doesn't think critically.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >everyone has different feelings about something
                >therefore it doesn't exist
                You have to be 18 to post on this site

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If there isn't a concrete definition and everyone's definition is different then no it doesn't exist. It's made up. AKA an illusion. Funny how you call me young instead of arguing my point. Oh wait it's because you're fucking retarded and have moron brains.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Don't hate, anon. It is man's burden to toil for what should be easy and free, but it it is also a glorious burden. We are blessed by God to be made to handle the burden, even if you think you can't handle it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I’ve started shifting my ideas of success away from social success/women to monetary success to find some meaning. It is much harder to hate on rich people because even if you’re a trust fund baby, your parents or grandparents did that work in the first place. Whereas if you are good looking it’s just genetics that no one really worked for. So now my struggle is to make more money which can provide experiences more valuable and interesting than fucking sluts

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Genetics are literally something you work for retard, otherwise how would your ancestors have continued their line?
              sheit, it's something you have to work on forever.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Success is not measured by anything or anyone but you.

              You define success yourself.

              You decided to make more money to have better experiences. Great call.

              Keep going, anon. It gets better from here.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Best thing to do is stop letting the internet tell you that sex and attention from women is the important part of your life. Cycle through hobbies or competitions until you find something you enjoy for the sake of getting better at it and make that your focus. Or hell, just make the act of finding new activities and new experiences your hobby.

          Do not let ideas of petty highschool popularity get to you. Those are for teenagers, you gotta grow out of it.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >have had fuck buddies before,
          It's always funny to me that the people complaining the most about women being sluts are the ones who enable it the most

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don’t care about them being sluts I would be a slut too if I had the option but I’m complaining that they don’t have to do anything at all to get there.

            Imagine getting regular intimate attention from basically as many people from the opposite sex whenever you want, not just a smile or a hello but genuine feelings and physical intimacy. That’s what I’m complaining about. Getting shit handed to you just for being a girl who is totally average

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You are a retard. You believe incel memes even though you can see they're not true every day irl. Just go Brad Pitt in Fight Club mode, have basic grooming, wear fashionable clothes, don't be introverted - and if people still hate you after that, it's because you have a shit personality. That's literally all.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You remember that episode of Futurama where Dr. Zoidberg goes all primal and his fin comes out and he's ready to fight and mate? Sometimes it seems to me that being sexually desirable is just a stage after being a child and before being a provider. People who hang on to being sexual miss the point of their development, are holding onto some sort of pain, and cause a lot of pain to act out of lust.

          I don't know that for sure, nor do I practice it, but doesn't it almost seem like it could be the case?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            So I guess I stopped being a child at 21 when my peers stopped at 14-16 maybe that’s why I am mad cos I am getting now what most people I talk to did 5-7 years ahead of me

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          imagine being so fucking buttblasted at "muh world unfair" that you spend your entire life obsessed with how other people have it better.

          for people who claim to hate women you sure do put them on a pedestal, as the be-all end-all goal and object of all your worldly desires

          it's pathetic

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You are deep in the incel mentality friend. Some people are just going to have it better than you at some things or in everything and thats a reality you have to deal with. Jealousy will solve nothing.

          Blaming women also solves nothing. One thing incels dont understand is that they dont want sex, they want to feel attractive, confident and desired. For women slutting out and getting their pussy used by a guy as an "easy lay" actually makes them feel less attractive, confident and desired. That's why sluts usually have emotional issues and poor self esteem, they use cheap sex as a replacement for emotional attachment, and go after men out of their league for dating so they can for a brief moment pretend to be someone they dont truly believe they are. Those women are not worth your time.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I used to be the same untill I met a sufficiently large number of people of the groups I hated. I had met enough people of those groups that all the good exceptions couldn't be just exceptions anymore. So that's how I figured I don't hate garden gnomes, blacks or homosexuals as groups. I just hate 90% of blacks, garden gnomes and gays as individuals. I still hate trannies though. Also hating women is a sign of mommy issues.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >forgiving your enemies
        Meaning enemies that you made because you were both retards (like you don't like someone you know for stupid reasons and such) not criminal gnomish enemies

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >muh hecking world wronged me
        >i will CRUSH my enemies
        >i am fueled by HATE
        >anime pic
        You're a colossal gay.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          ~~*You*~~

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Forgiving does not mean groveling.
        You can forgive even as you mete out punishment in this realm and let things sort themselves in the next.
        And hatred just saps you, you don't hate the roaches for it is their nature.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >forgive your enemies
        how can one forgive what one doesn't have?

      • 2 months ago
        t. shitskin. God other shitskins can be dumb as fuck

        >but women and minorities in particular.
        Literally me

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you forgive others not because they earned it but because you deserve peace

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm the first, the second and the fourth route at the same time
      the garden gnomes bankrupted my family two times (Soros and COVID lockdown) so I did some research and found the garden gnomes, so I'm in radical route because of this. the second route still in active because the current me is shitty as well as almost everything around me. but I'm also in the fourth route because ultimately, I'm a man and a man do fight back

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Victory against evil like that is in living happy.

        They want you depressed.

        To live happy is a death blow to them.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          yep, that's the plan. they wanted me poor, sad, weak and childless, I'm going to be rich, happy, strong, and continue my bloodline.

          https://i.imgur.com/KWYHPBF.jpg

          >I'm the first, the second and the fourth route at the same time
          the garden gnomes bankrupted my family two times (Soros and COVID lockdown) so I did some research and found the garden gnomes, so I'm in radical route because of this. the second route still in active because the current me is shitty as well as almost everything around me. but I'm also in the fourth route because ultimately, I'm a man and a man do fight back

          I forgot my own white pill, to all fatties, you just have to fast(no food at all, as well as garden gnome merchandise, just drinking water) for two day a week and you will get rid of 30kg worth of fat in a year, it's almost a new year now, so go for it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm a man and a man do fight back
        Thinking thats the fourth path when its the first. You are already radicalized

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          currently, I'm 'fighting back' by recovering from being poor, as well as getting fit and healthy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I am somewhere between self improvement, end and harmony

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based image, except everybody at the end of their path believe they're on bottom row.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm like a combination of all of these except delusions
      >stage 2 radicalization
      >sort of stage 2 derealization but it's not so bad
      > going hard on self improvement

      but I swear I will fight every single one of these fuckers, I can't live a life where I just do nothing and keep to myself while ~~*they*~~
      shit on everything and make it all more insufferable that it already is, I will fight them and I will die, because no man can defeat them alone
      to me it's a better than the alternative: doing fuck all

      https://i.imgur.com/6fcegbR.png

      >radicalization
      Yep, that's me. The list of groups I hate grows ever larger and the solution seems to be "I wish I was in charge of everything and fit enough to physically beat everyone who disagrees with me, then maybe finally these fucks will become virtuous and all these problems will go away". I feel constant anger directed at everyone and everything, but women and minorities in particular.

      Go on without me, it is my destiny to be miserable and do squats fueled by hate until I'm strong enough to bear abstract concepts like time and evil.

      Also this whole "forgiving your enemies" thing is hard as balls. I just can't do it, there's always this part of me that screams that the people who do harm to others (me in particular, I'll be honest) shouldn't be allowed to just get away with it. "Oh yes thank you for shitting all over me ma'am, would you like a complimentary mint as you vote my rights away and marginalize my problems?".

      I don't walk the path of rage because it's pleasant or even easy, I walk it because I can't do anything else.

      don't stray from that path if you KNOW, not think, and can prove that your beliefs are correct, everyone needs something that gets them going, whether it's family, friends, achievements, power, or even rage like in your case

      I know I am, and I will fight a losing battle because there's nothing else that can satisfy me more.

      https://i.imgur.com/72h3X3a.jpg

      Anon, you don’t have to hold anger towards them anymore. Hate their evils, and be so good that they see the evil in themselves.

      Hate their evils, pity the men that preach them, and put them out of their misery, because at a certain point people no longer change.

      anons, my best advice is for all those seeking meaning is to find a passion. im not talking fucking sluts and making money. Find a true passion that you will pursue until the day you die. Pick something stupid too, put every ounce of yourself into it. And your life will line up because of it

      Example: Myself and Aquariums
      >be me, a few years ago
      >depressed, lazy, suicidal, fat
      >get aquarium
      >aquarium makes me happy
      >want more fish, jobless and broke
      >get job
      >set up a bigger fish tank
      >fish have sex
      >start selling fish
      >turn my room into a fish gallery, 13 tanks in all
      >stop being suicidal because who would take care of my fish
      >start working out so i can carry buckets
      >stop being depressed because I work out
      >get a job at an aquarium store because i know so much about fish
      >make money from aquarium store and breeding fish
      >meet girl at fish store
      >decide to go to school for marine bio because of fish
      and now here I am. Bought my own house with fish money, am proposing to my girlfriend on the 21st, going to school for something I love, pretty damn fit too. All because of fish. webmrelated is my shrimps

      so get a hobby kid, were all gonna make it

      I have found it, either fighting ~~*them*~~ or hunting hogs in texas, dunno when I'll start but I'm hyped for it, I plan to start in around 8 or so years, in the meantime I will be developing a game

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Another radicalised person delusional about their position on the graph.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Hey at least I'm doing what I want to do, having a goal i'm genuinely happy about

          How am I delusional though? I know I radicalized myself, and I just dont care

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >went through all of the bad ones into radicalization, 20 to 30yrs for the hateful cycle
      >now through introspection making improvements
      We are going to make it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Now connect the harmony helper to the radicals and the circuit will be complete.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      harmony bros? im not being loved back

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw in derealization
      >tfw heading towards the end
      fix yourselves younger bros this shit is real

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      saved and I've been in an in between Derealization and Self-Improvement. Had Harmony for a while but it was false and I knew it was a false harmony whole time. How could someone be happy when they hated their long term gf, job, and where they lived. What they were doing. I had to reset and it's been super hard, also be casreful with drugs I started smoking at 24 due to all this emptiness and I am now a massive stoner it's super embarassing.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is honestly a great chart, and I hope more people on this board read it. At 23 I had a college girlfriend I knew I was going to marry, I was on my way to a better job than anyone in my family had known, and I was about to graduate college. By 24 the relationship had failed, I had finished college but was working as a janitor and living with my parents, and lived in the sticks where there were no opportunities or women. I was angry. I raged every day working as a janitor; the vision of her living a fabulous life, doing the job that I encouraged her in and her family discouraged, while leaving me because my career didn't take off... I burned. I continue to have a much more practical, even bleak view of people. But it also made me see my own shortcomings. I started going after what I want with discipline that I did not have before. I got into grad school. That didn't pan out. I kept going, taking low paying jobs, saving money, applying, working out, learning to talk to women and make friends. I became strong, and fast. I was smooth. I got into medical school. Two bad relationships in a row. Finished medical school. Now working as a doctor, and with a woman I love. It's the best relationship I'll ever have. Keep going, lads. The only thing you can change in this world is yourself.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Feel like I've been broken since I was a younger teenager, hovered in delusion and outburst for years. For this whole period I studied myself and asked why I felt so broken, finally realizing it was on me to change. Finally near the end of highschool I got started for real, feel like I accomplished all of my dream goals for about a year and a half and was on track for the best timeline. Then covid hit and it felt like I got thrown back to square one, gained a ton of weight, and slowly rebuilt by going down the top path. Got back on the fitness train a year ago but it was fueled almost entirely by spite towards the lockdowns. Now I'm finally done with college and I'm realizing that despite my massive growth physically and the social rebound I achieved in my last year, I am still once again feeling fundamentally broken inside. I can barely complete day to day tasks if at all but at least I'm still in the gym. Realizing the existence of God is the only reason I'm doing anything at all but I need to move forward for myself once again so I can actually move towards a harmonious life again.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You could only produce an infographic this focused on individual development in the fragmented society that is America. Healthy cultures don’t have this type of personal neuroticism.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Healthy cultures
        Care to name a few?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeh the aids cultures in your asshole are pretty healthy, you gay

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Alright, as expected.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Call me a radical. I will continue to hate garden gnomes and how they've wronged the world. And I don't want some essay written by some gay about philosophy, go pay lip service to the talmud reading devil worshipping garden gnomes elsewhere.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        So fucking based. You've given me hope for the future.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I strive for inner harmony in order to become a more fearsome opponent to neo marxist garden gnomes

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm glad that guy had a loving family that got him the therapy and treatment he needed to stop being a chud

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wait is that pic real? I'm kinda rooting for that mentaly I'll gay.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Very nice. May he find peace and lucidity

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw escapism for the last 3 years
      >this year trying my hardest to further into introspection
      it's very difficult, bros, but I must keep going, im still a fat loser, but a fat loser with a higher salary, better social life, more github projects and slightly less fat than 6 months ago

      keep fightan

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Going from the chud panel to the suicide one on around 15 years
      Lets go tigers
      I wasent made for this world

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      IST is a baker's dozen outburst bros who think they're on the introspection path

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What happens when you fail to improve yourself. What are you considered then.
      When you are stuck in a never ending loop of dread created by no one other than yourself, a cycle that leaves you contemplating suicide and change almost
      interchangeably.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      End here. Im not sane anymore. Please young people reading this work on yourselves before its too late. Once youre here it can get easier but you'll always be broken.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The doomer mindset has been romanticized a lot, I'm not saying you fall in that category, but you certainly seem very self aware and capable. Maybe you just need a reminder it's possible to get out of there.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe. I guess I feel sane when I see schizos on here but ive schizoposted myself many times just to "vent" even though I know its my inner monologue speaking, although Im still more coherent than the people whose entire dialect has been converted to chanspeak and they ramble about nonsense here. Maybe its time to finally get a therapist. The biggest thing i saw in that image that I dont have is a plan. If I know what to do I can get better but I dont.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >If I know what to do I can get better but I dont
            I know what you mean, it's hard to have perspective when facing a wall. The best course of action would be to keep moving until things clear up, focus on the basics like your health and being present, go through the motions. Eventually options present themselves, it's just hard to see it from here.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You know normally im disgusted by the violent transphobia I see on this site (haha le 41%! suicide funny!) but I appreciate this image acknowledging the problem without dehumanizing them. Especially pairing the brony with the trannies because theyre really cut from the same cloth. They operate like a cult, luring in broken people with promises of acceptance into a false reality where everyone is kind and "valid". The more people convert the more their world grows and it makes them feel better and better. Then they hold up the unattainable image of the attractive, passing, and financially successful transgirl, something so rare that most will only see it online and never IRL.

      If you want to see what I mean go read through /r/egg_irl for some horrific shit. I hope these people wake up before doom sets in and theyre an old man in womans clothing.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    for my fatbros out there
    >you can’t “outrun a bad diet” but if you consistently exercise and enjoy it you’ll end up fixing your diet without a struggle because it will make you better at your hobby
    >you’re probably not ugly, you’re just fat
    >nothing is more motivational than being fat your whole life and now you can do pullups

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >nothing is more motivational than being fat your whole life and now you can do pullups
      my main motivator and what i tell myself when i want to quit is being able to start doing pushups. huge whitepill. im down 30 lbs , getting closer everyday

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        WAGMI

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >nothing is more motivational than being fat your whole life and now you can do pullups
      this. I couldn’t do any when I started going to the gym, now I can do 14

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >God is up there and ready to help you if ya ask him
    It really doesn't look like it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      People like you disgust me.

      https://i.imgur.com/Rkv8DGM.png

      i'll start
      >The people who are tellling you not to change want to bring you down to their level
      >anyone at any age can start changing themself for the better
      >some part of your genes are under your control look up epigenetics
      >most people dont care too much about look unlike the internet would like to make you believe however being fit helps a lot
      >Even assuming only 0.1% of women dont follow the rules of the blackpill that's still millions of women to choose from
      >when you start you'll do somenthing wrong just find out what works for you since science is mostly a meme nowdays
      >God is up there and ready to help you if ya ask him
      >natty limit and rest days are a joke just sleep and keep lifting heavy shit

      >rest days are a joke
      This seems like something that could be true, so many people have been wrong before and everyone's a retard, but what do you base this off?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That’s cool anon
      Stay sad
      It’s your CHOICE

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I would argue there are ways to this mindset without God. Treasure your life, you only have the one. Find something to get away from this website that you enjoy. Don't let the schizo posters psy-op you. Get more hobbies that have communities. Interact with those communities. Volunteer to help people regardless if they would help you. And do it all not for yourself but to give value to your life that you have.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      At night it doesn’t look like the sun will ever shine again.
      But it always does.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I pray for people like you anon

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        have fun talking to yourself schizo

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Doubting Thomas

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            he's in your walls bro

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    unless you are hideously, monstrously deformed, if you have:
    >good hair
    >good physique
    >good posture
    >good fashion sense
    >good glasses (if applicable)

    You will instantly become AT LEAST 4/10. That allows you to be within range of average 5/10 women.
    an average-looking gf is possible for almost anyone.

    and if you're already pretty average, the above tips will make you a 7-8/10. I was a 5, now I am a 8.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >good glasses
      I actually love that you put this, I can't avoid but laugh when LULZ morons spout the nonsense of glasses somehow ruining the face. They are literally an accessory. I personally never thought much of it when they prescribed it to me, I'm ugly as fuck and people told me they look cute on me.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >good glasses
      absolutely so key. $20 walmart thin frames, rectangle lenses (incel goggles) are repulsive

      https://i.imgur.com/sNg4y0F.jpg

      The stars have led me to this whitepill thread.
      >anyone can start lifting, you don't need any prior sports experience
      >you can escape skinnyfat mode in less than six months
      >it takes less than a year for people to notice you lift
      >programming as a beginner is piss easy, everything works
      >diet is just as easy, just eat some protein and avoid fast food, candy and soda
      >you don't need a gym subscription to achieve a decent physique, you can get a good workout even with a pair of dumbbells from home
      >mires become so common they don't even register anymore
      >people notice you lift even under winter clothes
      >1/2/3/4 makes you stronger than mostly anyone you'll come across in your daily life
      >once you see results you won't even think about skipping the gym
      >consistency is the key to a good physique, even if you drag yourself to the gym you'll appreciate every single workout in retrospect
      >a good physiqye has a halo effect on anything you do
      >being motivated by hope and love is much more effective than being motivated by anger

      best whitepill post, keep posting it

      Here's a white pill.

      You can lead an active lifestyle pursuing almost any physical hobby (non-contact) well into your 60s by staying fit and eating right. Marathon running, overnight camping, alpine skiing, triathlons, iron mans, basketball, volleyball, surfing - WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT you can do for decades by prioritizing fitness.

      But if you dont then you will not be able to even do the above in your 30s. For young anons trust me it's one of the saddest sites to see trying to get childhood friends to do something other than sit and drink beer, only to respond with 'ah my knee' or 'Im too old to do that now'

      The entire world is your oyster but you need a lot of time to explore as much of it as possible, and you need to be fit to truly do that exploring. Yes chasing lift numbers or curls for the girls to get laid is fun. But to truly make the most of your time on this earth the key it to take personal fitness seriously

      you can play tennis well into your 70s.

      anons, my best advice is for all those seeking meaning is to find a passion. im not talking fucking sluts and making money. Find a true passion that you will pursue until the day you die. Pick something stupid too, put every ounce of yourself into it. And your life will line up because of it

      Example: Myself and Aquariums
      >be me, a few years ago
      >depressed, lazy, suicidal, fat
      >get aquarium
      >aquarium makes me happy
      >want more fish, jobless and broke
      >get job
      >set up a bigger fish tank
      >fish have sex
      >start selling fish
      >turn my room into a fish gallery, 13 tanks in all
      >stop being suicidal because who would take care of my fish
      >start working out so i can carry buckets
      >stop being depressed because I work out
      >get a job at an aquarium store because i know so much about fish
      >make money from aquarium store and breeding fish
      >meet girl at fish store
      >decide to go to school for marine bio because of fish
      and now here I am. Bought my own house with fish money, am proposing to my girlfriend on the 21st, going to school for something I love, pretty damn fit too. All because of fish. webmrelated is my shrimps

      so get a hobby kid, were all gonna make it

      based

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You will instantly become AT LEAST 4/10. That allows you to be within range of average 5/10 women.
      bro?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think this chart proves his point.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          it doesn't, according to that chart, a 4/10 man is equivalent to a 2/10 woman (from the point of view of women)

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's not what the chart actually says at all though.
            Incels not only have an agenda, they can't even comprehend basic facets of math.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              find the average of each chart and draw a vertical line to the other chart, where is the average man in respect to the average women?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                And I repeat: that's not what the chart actually says.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The person who you are responding to is right. Fit has literally the dumbest people I've ever seen on IST.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Alright lads, lay it out for a retard like me
      >good physique
      Easy, lift (add cardio if you're fat or just want to look leaner) and eat well
      >good posture
      Also pretty easy, just make a conscious effort to take up as much space with your body as possible - roll your shoulders back, puff your chest out a bit and hold your head up high
      >good hair
      >good fashion sense
      >good glasses
      I am fucking lost, no idea here at all. Help me bros

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Also pretty easy, just make a conscious effort to take up as much space with your body as possible - roll your shoulders back, puff your chest out a bit and hold your head up high
        Also fix any APT. This is massively overlooked.
        >good hair
        This is pretty simple. Figure out your face shape (round, square, heart, etc. Use google), figure out your hair texture (thin vs thick, straight, wavy or curly) then search for hair using those terms and whatever length you want. Find a few similar example pics of front and side and take it to a salon (not a barber shop unless they are more "upscale"). If the look works for you, get it maintained every 4-6 weeks.
        >good fashion sense
        >good glasses
        These basically are the same thing. Fashion is easy -- get some staples and make sure they fit properly. Not too tight, not too baggy, and the lengths (sleeves and pant legs) are correct. If you find stuff that fits well off the rack, cool, but most won't because it's all mix-match shit from sweatshops. So find stuff that fits mostly well, is made of comfortable materials, and drop a few bucks to get it tailored. Shit that is "fitted" off the rack is rarely so.
        Now those are "staple clothes", so shit you can wear to work and maybe to some times going out (i.e., some polo shirts to wear to an outdoor party in summer). But a true sense of fashion is built to your tastes. Your aesthetic is a combination of details of your clothes and accessories, and that can show off some of your personality. It is also reflective of non-clothing things like your hair. Personally, I hold onto some of the wannabe skater days of my youth, so I will roll up to work in business casual (collared shirt, dark wash jeans or dark chinos, and a leather wristband with slightly longer wavy hair). It polarizes some people, but thats kind of the point. Your aesthetic should fit YOU, literally and figuratively, and that will inevitably draw people to or away from you.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Show me a chick that rates herself a 5 out of 10.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        My gf used to think very little of herself, she would get so anxious that she would scratch at her arms until they would scab. She was very pretty though and I could not see why she would have this unfavorable mental image of herself. It took time but she slowly started believing me when I called her beautiful. I went out of my way to tell other women that were in my friend group who she thought were good looking too, compliment her and hype her up.
        She started to really come into her own, she became even more attractive to me, lost some weight and put on some muscle, she was perfect, we loved each other so much because we helped each other grow into new better people. But it wasn't enough, she became more active on insta, now comparing her lifestyle to unachievable goals, right before we were about to buy a house together she dumped me, was dating another richer man 3 months later. We were together for 5 years.
        I've been lost ever since, I've been with other women since, I've never had a hard time socializing or making new friends, but she was something different, I had never built something so special with someone like before and now it's gone. I have no motivation to try with women and I still hook up with some, making me resent them even more.
        I'll probably just drift through life making as much money as I can so I can elaborately kill myself at 50.
        >thanks for reading my blog post

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          She was never yours to begin with, not saying it to make you feel worse just stating facts. Was your life before her without happiness? I’m guessing no, so why would it be now that you no longer ”have” her? Would you react the same way if a coffee mug you’ve had for 5 years whom you got from your mother would fall to the floor and break? Sure it would sting for a bit but would it be the end of the world/your life? Just remember that as long as you’re still breathing, there’s something worth living for, otherwise you would have slit your wrists a long time ago. Try to find that thing worth living for.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            In a lot of ways she was mine, and I was hers. Like I said I still find happiness in most aspects of my life, but we all have a hole that is hard to fill, but she was the one of the few things that came close to filling it. I'm not actually suicidal by the way, I just don't want to be old lol

            That's an unfortunate outcome. You ever wonder what the hell is wrong with people?
            At least you'll have those memories. Five years of something many never get to experience.
            The death of who she was doesn't have to change that, or stop you from trying to build something special again.

            I am grateful that she was in my life and I know she'll never forget me either, but it is hard thinking that you just passed the peak in your life, the only thing that keeps me going is the unlimited possibilities of the future.

            Also, at least I'm in the best shape of my life now haha right guys

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's an unfortunate outcome. You ever wonder what the hell is wrong with people?
          At least you'll have those memories. Five years of something many never get to experience.
          The death of who she was doesn't have to change that, or stop you from trying to build something special again.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The stars have led me to this whitepill thread.
    >anyone can start lifting, you don't need any prior sports experience
    >you can escape skinnyfat mode in less than six months
    >it takes less than a year for people to notice you lift
    >programming as a beginner is piss easy, everything works
    >diet is just as easy, just eat some protein and avoid fast food, candy and soda
    >you don't need a gym subscription to achieve a decent physique, you can get a good workout even with a pair of dumbbells from home
    >mires become so common they don't even register anymore
    >people notice you lift even under winter clothes
    >1/2/3/4 makes you stronger than mostly anyone you'll come across in your daily life
    >once you see results you won't even think about skipping the gym
    >consistency is the key to a good physique, even if you drag yourself to the gym you'll appreciate every single workout in retrospect
    >a good physiqye has a halo effect on anything you do
    >being motivated by hope and love is much more effective than being motivated by anger

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      gutsanon any thoughts on weighted pushups? I hate benching and I think my chest is underdeveloped because of it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're the guy with the fucked up sleep schedule right? If so, did you fix your shit up brah? As for benching, I tried weighted pushups in the past but they felt awkard. I know some guys who have gotten pretty solid gains from dips, do those if you can and supplement them with dumbbell press and flyes.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes I stayed up all night that day and it kinda self corrected from there
          Thanks, I can do 3 dips currently so I will just try to push that further and have them be my main chest exercise.
          The nice thing about doing calisthenics/weighted calisthenics alongside lifting is it makes losing fat more motivating. When I was just lifting it was kinda demoralizing how losing fat made me become worse at lifting. But losing fat makes me better at calisthenics, so it evens out

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're the guy with the fucked up sleep schedule right? If so, did you fix your shit up brah? As for benching, I tried weighted pushups in the past but they felt awkard. I know some guys who have gotten pretty solid gains from dips, do those if you can and supplement them with dumbbell press and flyes.

            My lifts aren’t going down or anything it’s not that bad. but I’m definitely progressing slower than I was before I really hammered out my diet

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            My lifts aren’t going down or anything it’s not that bad. but I’m definitely progressing slower than I was before I really hammered out my diet

            Glad to hear friend. It's good to have some variety in your programming. Since we're in it for the long run and not training for competitions we can abstain from optimisation obsessions and pick the exercises we enjoy most. Try to enjoy every exercise in your rotation but don't be quick to rule out a lift, I started enjoying squats almost a year after I implemented them, and front squats became my second favorite lift. Godspeed

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              mm yeah i feel full body euphoria from squeezing out the last overhead press rep, its definitely my favourite lift. ive just been doing the lifts i like and its comfy. i dont follow a program i just do what i want as hard as i can. wagmi

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That’s Kenshiro bro

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The image is of kenshiro but the poster is known as gutsanon

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Kenshibro and gutsanon are the same guy

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That’s Kenshiro bro

            >It is time Kenshiro, for our destined fight
            >1 Repo-max Bench Press, Deadlift and squat

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >being motivated by hope and love is much more effective than being motivated by anger

      Unironically

      How do I find hope again? I started balding and developed hormonal acne all at once. I fear ill never find better than my ex cuz if this new blow to my attractiveness.

      I'm seeing a dermatologist in a couple months and have been micro needling my scalp but still,I feel too unsightly for another lil qt pie to love me

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Realise it's all about The Mindset™. Uglier, shorter, balder men have scored with prettier cuties.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Get on fin right noe

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      dis is pretty good. good post.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget stretching.
      It took me 6 months of full body stretches to touch my toes (holding for 15 seconds for each area).
      Now I can grab half my feet in that stretch

      WAGMI bros

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Here's a white pill.

    You can lead an active lifestyle pursuing almost any physical hobby (non-contact) well into your 60s by staying fit and eating right. Marathon running, overnight camping, alpine skiing, triathlons, iron mans, basketball, volleyball, surfing - WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT you can do for decades by prioritizing fitness.

    But if you dont then you will not be able to even do the above in your 30s. For young anons trust me it's one of the saddest sites to see trying to get childhood friends to do something other than sit and drink beer, only to respond with 'ah my knee' or 'Im too old to do that now'

    The entire world is your oyster but you need a lot of time to explore as much of it as possible, and you need to be fit to truly do that exploring. Yes chasing lift numbers or curls for the girls to get laid is fun. But to truly make the most of your time on this earth the key it to take personal fitness seriously

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good post friend.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing angers me more than seeing coworkers in their 30s or 40s saying they can't do something because they're old, when I can clearly see that they're fat.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Here's a white pill.

        You can lead an active lifestyle pursuing almost any physical hobby (non-contact) well into your 60s by staying fit and eating right. Marathon running, overnight camping, alpine skiing, triathlons, iron mans, basketball, volleyball, surfing - WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT you can do for decades by prioritizing fitness.

        But if you dont then you will not be able to even do the above in your 30s. For young anons trust me it's one of the saddest sites to see trying to get childhood friends to do something other than sit and drink beer, only to respond with 'ah my knee' or 'Im too old to do that now'

        The entire world is your oyster but you need a lot of time to explore as much of it as possible, and you need to be fit to truly do that exploring. Yes chasing lift numbers or curls for the girls to get laid is fun. But to truly make the most of your time on this earth the key it to take personal fitness seriously

        Yeah you benefit from starting earlier and continuing but older people often use age as an excuse not to try. It's a mindset

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone posting this kind of shit is so far gone they shouldn't really be trying to lecture people.
    The ones who care about self improvement are already here, even if they will never achieve their unrealistic goals of finding a unicorn girl or twink boy to be with forever.

    TLDR OP is a gay.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Psyop.

      Do not listen to this gay.

      We all start somewhere. Some at birth, some as old men, some start somewhere in the middle. Either way, it is earned. Easy or hard, it is earned.

      Man has to have something to push against to measure his worth.

      That's why weak basedgays like this poster are extremly unhappy.

      They have no drive or direction.

      Don't worry, cuck. You can start as well, grow, and prosper.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Good post.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Trust me, you're not qualified to lecture people kiddo.

        All the absolute nonsense you zoomers post is truly fucking staggering. Improve yourself, or don't. It's literally as easy as that, now fuck off.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          At the end of the day it's true, you do or you don't, and you have to just grit your teeth and suffer.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Useless schizo post

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Trust me, you have no authority on or over anything.

            Not even your own life. That is why you wish to tear down others.

            Do better, anon. Look inside yourself. Get rid of the anger.

            Hilarious.
            Never change incels

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I am always changing.

              You should change, anon.

              It must be exhausting to be angry all the time.

              But it's ok. You can do it. You can let go of the vitriol.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                How old are you?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'll indulge you.

                32

                Before you ask: married to a woman hotter and kinder than I deserve, and have a successful manufacturing business I worked extremely hard to start.

                Still not fit, but I lift 5x a week and am progressing well.

                How old are you?

                No, I won't post pics of my wife for you to walk over, either.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Based (you). I love seeing capable, intelligent humans on IST, it almost justifies this terrible habit.

                My whitewalls:
                >Ultimately other people's opinions do matter, but only indirectly. If you are accomplishing your goals, be they fitness, financial, social or spiritual, you will be confident and happy, and that is universally attractive. So do what makes you happy, regardless of the opinions of others. It is the result of pursuing the life you want, that hightens the world's opinion of you.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've been coming here since I was 15. Through severe depression(suicidal for 5 years) and through a terrible back injury from a previous job. I even chatted with Zyzz once.

                Even if this place is mostly shit, it's still a great place to hang out.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I think about Aziz almost every day

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Projecting hard

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Trust me, you have no authority on or over anything.

          Not even your own life. That is why you wish to tear down others.

          Do better, anon. Look inside yourself. Get rid of the anger.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Assuming this anon is right, if the anon he is replying to is not qualified to lecture people, then what makes him believe that he is qualified to lecture him?

          >What is evil? —Whatever springs from weakness
          Friedrich Nietzsche

          Cruelty is the attribute of the weak because kindness and mercy are the crowns of the strong, be it on the street, in the gym, in a small coffee shop, or on an online image board, be strong, choose kind.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I am not lecturing anyone. Just hoping to encourage people to try, work, triumph and succeed.

            The other anon is unfortunately very bitter. I hope he can change his life for the better.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Trust me, you're not qualified to lecture people kiddo.

          >All the absolute nonsense you zoomers post is truly fucking staggering. Improve yourself, or don't. It's literally as easy as that, now fuck off.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          you're a glowie go tf away, you don't get paid to shitpost on IST

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's a shame when people come to this conclusion that they have no purpose in life, when the reality is that you have to discover or create your own purpose in life and begin to feel the drive to be better. Being motivated for a goal is almost more satisfying than reaching the goal itself. Never stop improving, yet never take for granted what success you have achieved.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          To find a goal is sometimes the purpose.

          Purpose and goals can, and usually do, change.

          "My purpouse is to find my purpose "

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The divorce rate is 50%
    That means 50% don't end in divorce
    You can marry a random woman off the street and have a 50/50 chance of success, imagine if you worked hard

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      note that this is skewed statistic and it's much better than this because there are people with 7 marriages in their lifetimes. Chance of first marriage ending in divorce is significantly lower.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you lose your hair, wigs look so good nowadays people would never notice unless they touch the edges, unless you get a skin system and that's almost undetectable.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can take up to two pills of finasteride with zero sides. My temples are saved but it's slightly harder for the hairline.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    anons, my best advice is for all those seeking meaning is to find a passion. im not talking fucking sluts and making money. Find a true passion that you will pursue until the day you die. Pick something stupid too, put every ounce of yourself into it. And your life will line up because of it

    Example: Myself and Aquariums
    >be me, a few years ago
    >depressed, lazy, suicidal, fat
    >get aquarium
    >aquarium makes me happy
    >want more fish, jobless and broke
    >get job
    >set up a bigger fish tank
    >fish have sex
    >start selling fish
    >turn my room into a fish gallery, 13 tanks in all
    >stop being suicidal because who would take care of my fish
    >start working out so i can carry buckets
    >stop being depressed because I work out
    >get a job at an aquarium store because i know so much about fish
    >make money from aquarium store and breeding fish
    >meet girl at fish store
    >decide to go to school for marine bio because of fish
    and now here I am. Bought my own house with fish money, am proposing to my girlfriend on the 21st, going to school for something I love, pretty damn fit too. All because of fish. webmrelated is my shrimps

    so get a hobby kid, were all gonna make it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      hey look at him go

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based, wholesome, and wonderful. You are winning.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Blessed post. You really turned your life around, anon. Good job!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this is incredible, here's a cap bro

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      CUTE

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      WAGMI

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I too love taking care of my aquarium and getting fit, but I've started to feel like it wasn't enough. Thank you for this whitepill

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      thanks for making me smile, hi fishy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      unfathomably based, buying my indoor shrimp farm right fucking now

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      hey, I remember you! you're cool

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based. I know my passion. I know what I want to do, and how to do it. It would motivate me to not only stay in shape but it genuinely gives me the feeling of being alive and fulfilled.
      But I'm stuck in a soul-crushing tech job because I need health insurance. I'm on insanely expensive medications and get hospitalized once a year minimum. And hell, I know how to get insurance if I can do my passion enough to get part of the union with it, but thats a long, unpredictable timeframe. It could literally mean my death, so I don't know how to make it all happen

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        What's the passion?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Acting and story-telling. I got my degree in theatre and studied at the same school as some famous film performers.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I had come to a similar conclusion anon.
      >be depressed
      >wanna try things
      >buy a bag of balloons and and a balloon pump.
      >Start learning how to make balloon animals.
      >mfw seeing my cousins 3 year old son's face light up when I give him a balloon sword.

      >from that decision I wanted to pursue more hobbies
      >learning how to play piano.
      >have a paint set I've been meaning to take out and try
      >lifting weights still
      >studying math for myself every day because I was always bad at it and want to be better.
      >finally taking steps to escape NEETdom

      I will forever be grateful to the balloon animals for starting me on this path

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/Rkv8DGM.png

      i'll start
      >The people who are tellling you not to change want to bring you down to their level
      >anyone at any age can start changing themself for the better
      >some part of your genes are under your control look up epigenetics
      >most people dont care too much about look unlike the internet would like to make you believe however being fit helps a lot
      >Even assuming only 0.1% of women dont follow the rules of the blackpill that's still millions of women to choose from
      >when you start you'll do somenthing wrong just find out what works for you since science is mostly a meme nowdays
      >God is up there and ready to help you if ya ask him
      >natty limit and rest days are a joke just sleep and keep lifting heavy shit

      https://i.imgur.com/sNg4y0F.jpg

      The stars have led me to this whitepill thread.
      >anyone can start lifting, you don't need any prior sports experience
      >you can escape skinnyfat mode in less than six months
      >it takes less than a year for people to notice you lift
      >programming as a beginner is piss easy, everything works
      >diet is just as easy, just eat some protein and avoid fast food, candy and soda
      >you don't need a gym subscription to achieve a decent physique, you can get a good workout even with a pair of dumbbells from home
      >mires become so common they don't even register anymore
      >people notice you lift even under winter clothes
      >1/2/3/4 makes you stronger than mostly anyone you'll come across in your daily life
      >once you see results you won't even think about skipping the gym
      >consistency is the key to a good physique, even if you drag yourself to the gym you'll appreciate every single workout in retrospect
      >a good physiqye has a halo effect on anything you do
      >being motivated by hope and love is much more effective than being motivated by anger

      this is the best thread i've seen in a long time.
      godspeed to everyone, WAGMI

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      armed and dangerously fucking based

      this man gets it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The most blessed post I've seen in a long, long time. You've warmed my soul a little bit.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Excellent work anon and very true. I have a story a bit similar:
      >be me, years ago
      >19 years old
      >social retard with no friends
      >lazy and play video games all day
      >eat like shit
      >dont work out
      >hate my job
      >my girlfriend of 3 years left me. I was devestated as I thought she was the one
      >on the verge of flunking college
      >borderline suicidal
      >all my life I’ve loved the piano but never learned, never afforded a piano nor lessons
      >love jazz and gospel in particular
      >Oscar Peterson’s “hymn to freedom” brought me to tears when I was 15

      >always wanted to play it and never did
      >finally say fuck it. Start saving cash
      >research keyboards
      >buy cheap but decent Yamaha keyboard
      >pic rel, the P125
      >YouTube piano lessons
      >months of slow progress
      >one day pick up relative fron old folks home
      >they have a grand piano
      >mess with it
      >some old people passing by like it and say I should come back and play for them
      >guy at my school mentions that he plays
      >I say i’m learning
      >he starts teaching me techniques and skills
      >introduces me to friend group
      >they are all nice and chill. Finally have friends
      >meet sweet girl
      >start jamming jazz with some guys
      >start getting small gigs
      >start to exercise with encouragement from girl
      >pick up grades too
      >making good progress at piano
      >finally learn the song
      >over a year later return to the old folks home
      >play it, and some other gospel/jazz, for a crowd at the folk’s home
      >some old people cry
      >feel a sense of happiness and fufillment I’ve never felt before

      Any anon reading this. Find your passion and chase it. Keep chasing it. The mere journey of going for it makes it all worthwhile. It makes the suffering, the challenge, the difficulty, all the more easy.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Forgot pic

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >be me
        >got piano lessons from 5-15 years
        >was okay but nothing special due to never practicing
        >stopped for a few years during as a teenager
        >picked it back up in 20s
        >actually practice frequently for the past 5 years or so
        >by now quite good
        >can play incredibly beautiful and quite hard stuff like Claire the lune or some Chopin etudes
        >tfw nobody has heard me play in 10 years let alone any chick
        >even when I have people over they just ignore my epiano in the room
        >usually play at night before bed sometimes in the dark
        >get incredibly sad sometimes that I cannot share this with anyone
        >often finish practice session with moonlight sonata while close to tears

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Claire the Lune

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Try some pop stuff

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          which etudes can you play anon

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/7L25x3o.jpg

        Forgot pic

        absolutely based and nice of you to play for the old folks

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        cool story m8,
        song reminds me of this

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Very nice.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Haha holy crap I met this guy in the summer. Seems nice enough but a little odd. I totally forgot Vice did a thing on him.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      one of the most blessed posts I've ever seen on IST

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Was this post yours by any chance?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        nah I like that post, But I've never been a druggie. Wish him and his shrimp the best!

        https://i.imgur.com/7xKgE1A.png

        this is incredible, here's a cap bro

        Wow, Thanks! Ill be sure to keep you guys updated on what my gf says on the 21st

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That’s crazy, I genuinely thought you were the other shrimp bro. If shrimp turning somebody’s life around wasn’t a one-off, somebody oughta look into the therapeutic power of raising shrimp.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            damn... I swear, I need to be more creative if I truly want to be rich

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            raising anything, or having anybody depend on you, forces you to succeed for their sake

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm pretty depressed, I better go see a shrimp

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Pick something stupid too
      Lmfao

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      But I don't like anything. Ive post all ambition and motivation. Their isn't anything that brings me joy.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >proposing on the 21st
      based. Im getting married on the 21st. Good luck bro

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      absolutely respect

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can I get a tl;dr on your pic?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Onassis is seething

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Can I get a tl;dr on your pic?

      some internet fag thinks he's on the level of successful competing athletes because he lifts big rock
      he's spitting on other internet fags who are somehow lower than him to feel better about himself
      le roman man bust means he's right and basically a modern philosopher

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >man was born tired and lived to rest
      This moves me because I too am a lazy bastard.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    its not over until its over

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >picrel
    The football image pays $0 to live in your head forever. I don't even have to post it.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only pill you need:

    Aspirations of immortality, in life or renown, are ironically shortsighted.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good bread. Just wanted to add that its never too late for anyone. I was a filthy bitter incel with a potbelly 4 years ago, decided to change, and im loving myself more everyday. Fixed my career, got shredded, stopped mouthbreathing, and saw my jawline slowly fix itself. Looking better, i decided to finally start approaching women. Struck out horribly alot, but i didnt let that stop me. I started fixing my autism through sheer volume of interactions with women, and slowly realized that in the end, personality is fixable and that all my failures in the past were due to solely my bitterness and anger at my powerlessness. Now i not only have 2 qts as options for gfs but more importantly im feeling confident in unfamiliar situations and excited to tackle each day. Wagmi bros. Never give up

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    As a 0 -> chad figure this speaks to me. Doomer posts are particularly obnoxious when you know from experience that significant change is possible.

    To think that shit is persuading impressionable teen/early 20 year olds makes me sick. Incels deserve the bullet not because they're incels, but because of how they try to drag people down with them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >As a 0 -> chad figure
      story?

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's not accurate.
    Being good at sports takes a lot of work, sure.
    But it, in fact, does magically attract girlfriends.

    Working at the grocery store, a coworker of mine was a former linebacker.
    He said and I quote, "That's all it takes".

    The other part is that you aren't exactly going to get onto varsity if you're still 5' tall, no matter how hard you lift.

    What the fuck is a whitepill? I don't see Hiiter anywhere and this is IST

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      if you're 5' you should be training as a gymnast. girls love the dude who can do backflips

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I had slipped disc half a year ago and it still hurts when I do anything but not as bad as the initial stage when I was bedridden. I wanna start working out again but everything aggravates it and I just keep eating and growing fatter, making recover harder. Please whitepill me.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      don't eat. routine fasting is the way. start with the most basic one, omad(one meal a day) then one meal every other day

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Please correct me if I'm wrong. How is that gonna help my recovery if I don't get enough protein? And won't that make me lose muscles instead of fats since I am unable to work out?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          bro, you do eat one meal a day at start, make it packed full of protein. meat, egg, milk. once you're comfortable with omad, starting to increase hour until it reach one meal every other day. you will recover, you just have to eat meat on refeeding time. and fuck all garden gnomes merchandise, supplements are all scam. get yourself a real food, real beef, real egg, real milk(low fat is a no, even you're cutting or fasting)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hey bud I’m just getting over this injury. I’m about at the 9-10 month mark, and finally getting to a place where I’m not in pain all the time/being limited in activities. Sports medicine doc said it’d be a year recovery process since I’m relatively young/fit at 31 and that tracks. Can take up to 18 months, and obviously people can fuck it up and end up with recurrent chronic back pain because they don’t respect the therapy/healing process. It’s a horrible injury that stole a year from me but you will get better. Read sarno. Learn mckenzie exercises + the McGill big 3. Walk, walk, walk. Planks, side planks, bridges. Dead hangs. Learn what your pain triggers are and stay away from them until you can build up to the task confidently. Do not become a lazy piece of shit, back injuries just take awhile. If you have legit sciatica after a year then microdiscectomy may be the way to go.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I have legit no disc in L4/5 anymore. Doc said the protruding discs will get absorbed into body eventually just have to wait it out. It's bearable but when I try stretching or exercising it hurts like so fucking bad.

        https://i.imgur.com/xlU88jB.jpg

        bro, you do eat one meal a day at start, make it packed full of protein. meat, egg, milk. once you're comfortable with omad, starting to increase hour until it reach one meal every other day. you will recover, you just have to eat meat on refeeding time. and fuck all garden gnomes merchandise, supplements are all scam. get yourself a real food, real beef, real egg, real milk(low fat is a no, even you're cutting or fasting)

        Alright then I'll give that diet a try. Thanks.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          all back pain is TMS from unconscious rage, and most surgery is useless. People live with major degenerations/stenosis/bulging discs and feel zero pain. I wrote off Sarno books as woo-woo until they fuckin worked. Stop thinking of your body as broken.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    doea anyone have the whitepill screenshot about attractiveness coming down to body masculinity and voice and how women have highly varying tastes in guys?

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Whitepill: You can watch as much porn as you want, as long as you can stay hard for your partner and can live a normal life.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What a fucking blatant psyop post, you should be ashamed.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    white pill for you
    i met my bf on here and i love him with all my heart. i hate morons and so does he.
    ur gonna make it someday

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Proverbs 19:17 Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will repay him for his deed.

    Psalm 41:1 Blessed is the one who considers the poor! In the day of trouble the Lord delivers him;

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I need discipline, bros. I'm stuck in skinnyfat hell because I can't stick to my diet for more than a few days. I don't have much to cut to before switching to a recomp style diet for awhile, but if I cant cut with discipline I sure as hell won't be able to recomp.
    I need to learn to conquer my own mind.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      many people dont have discipline,
      i would say I'm one such person.

      how I got around it, however, was through sports & friendship

      do sport
      >need to get stronger to get better
      >go gym to contribute to team
      >go gym with teammates often

      go gym often
      >talk to people in gym
      >befriend regulars
      >talk over common exercises

      discipline is useful, no doubt, but there are easier, more fun ways to do things.
      >life isn't a solo game

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Checked.
        Life isn't a solo game, but some things are. Keeping nutrition is a solo effort. Teammates can't count my calories for me. They can help push me in the gym, but friends don't put the fork to my mouth. I need to find the way to fight this demon of mine since nobody else can cross that threshold with me. Even if they are in the same boat, their battle is one I cannot fight with them.

      • 2 months ago
        Ikarus

        Can I get into a sport if I'm 30 years old? What would you recommend?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          In my opinion yes, absolutely. I'm nearing my mid-30s now but I've stopped practicing/training/playing my sport of choice for about 3 years now. 2 of those years went to COVID but the last year I've been out of shape and I also got sick last month. But now before the year ends I've committed to playing in 2 separate scrimms already. Just find a group where you're familiar with or connected with someone, and join them. If you don't know anyone, join a club and start from there. Now that the World Cup is still winding down, you might be able to find a soccer club where noobs are playing in, you should definitely join in.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks a lot anon, I'll give it a shot!

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >pic
    That's not very fair. I grew up far from town and couldn't do any sports until grade 10, at which point I sucked so bad I got pushed out of every team I tried. Even before that, in PE and recess, I was always worse than the other kids. I disagree with the original pasta's determinist message - I am dating despite this, I succeed in other areas, my cardio was always good, and I even believe I could get good at sports with sufficient training - but don't pretend discipline is all that divides and jocks and losers.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have dyspraxia and was always shit at sports, but I found I could hold my own in BJJ. It's relatively slow paced, so my poor reaction times aren't a hindrance, there are no strikes incoming that require hand-eye coordination to block, and it's mostly on the ground so my poor balance doesn't hold me back much either. It's quite cerebral (learning the moves, knowing what move counters what, planning a few steps ahead and tricking your opponent into opening a hole in their defence) so brains can make up for lack of athleticism. If you lift and have good cardio, even better, because you can often power your way out of holds and pass guard, and you can let your opponent tire out to get the upper hand.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Literaly try hard to get somenthing to work instead of being a loser.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          What?

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    > most people are too busy worrying about their own anxieties to notice the things that are wrong with you
    > You look better to other people than you think -- bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.
    > Women want the same things as men emotionally. They're more a different culture than a different species.
    > Nobody in history has reached the natty limit, just the natty point of uncertainty.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >> Nobody in history has reached the natty limit, just the natty point of uncertainty
      Man's natty limit was a lot higher in recent history and ancient history.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    > Only pop stars and porn actors peak before thirty. For actual people, it's practice hours.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw 30
      >tfw at best point of my life now
      >tfw its still disappointing shit
      It's not rock bottom -- that was 2020 with a myriad of shit. But I'm far from happy or content.
      I will get better.
      I have to.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lot's of people peak before 30. Especially women. The key is that putting in work will pay off and you can have an amazing life after 30 while everyone else just crumbles.
      One problem is that most people here think you need to be the stereotypical early 20s sports chad fucking stacies every weekend and partying with the bros while making lots of money to be make it. But if you are on this board that just isn't you. You can be as ripped as you want, as good looking as you want and as successful as you want. You will never be that person. Took me a lot of time to find that out. And even longer to accept it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Your understanding of what a "peak" means is still fairly shallow if you think that I mean it predominantly in a sexual-aesthetic sense

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ive done some stuff recently that I regret a lot. But im getting back on my feet before its too late. I got people that care about me even though i dont believe them sometimes. Any advice on how to keep the voices quiet?

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >been lifting for a year and 3 months.
    >still not close to 1/2/3/4
    My failure dissapoints me but, theres not much to do other than keep trying.
    Its not a race with others, it is being better than you were yesterday.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      1/2/3/4 is the top of natty lifting, don't let anyone on this board tell you differently.
      I've been lifting for about 2 years, lots of progress to be had but I can only do 1 and 3 after all that time.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is a whitepill thread, not a "lie to ourselves" thread. 1/2/3/4 is what absolutely any man under 65 can achieve in 3 years or less. The pinnacle starts at 4/5/6 The whitepill to be had is what

        https://i.imgur.com/sNg4y0F.jpg

        The stars have led me to this whitepill thread.
        >anyone can start lifting, you don't need any prior sports experience
        >you can escape skinnyfat mode in less than six months
        >it takes less than a year for people to notice you lift
        >programming as a beginner is piss easy, everything works
        >diet is just as easy, just eat some protein and avoid fast food, candy and soda
        >you don't need a gym subscription to achieve a decent physique, you can get a good workout even with a pair of dumbbells from home
        >mires become so common they don't even register anymore
        >people notice you lift even under winter clothes
        >1/2/3/4 makes you stronger than mostly anyone you'll come across in your daily life
        >once you see results you won't even think about skipping the gym
        >consistency is the key to a good physique, even if you drag yourself to the gym you'll appreciate every single workout in retrospect
        >a good physiqye has a halo effect on anything you do
        >being motivated by hope and love is much more effective than being motivated by anger

        said.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >1/2/3/4 makes you strong than mostly everyone
          >super easy to do bro trust me
          The biggest lies are the ones we tell our self eh anon?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            yeah, like the one where you tell yourself that 1/2/3/4 is peak natty just because you're weak. scrub mentality

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not even the anon who said it was the peak, it's not, but expecting everyone to get 1/2/3/4 quickly or easily is misguided.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The general public is quite weak. If everyone lifted regularly, 1/2/3/4 would be considered a baseline, not an accomplishment. It's only a feat relative to a sedentary lifestyle and a diet of poison.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The general public is quite weak. If everyone lifted regularly, 1/2/3/4 would be considered a baseline, not an accomplishment. It's only a feat relative to a sedentary lifestyle and a diet of poison.

          yeah, like the one where you tell yourself that 1/2/3/4 is peak natty just because you're weak. scrub mentality

          1/2/3/4 is fucking ridiculously unbalanced you dumbasses

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The human body is unbalanced. Legs are way stronger than arms.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              So what? 1/2/3/4 is still unbalanced. It's FAR easier to reach 1 than it is to reach 3 or 4

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                In order I hit 1 3 2 4. You're right though 2/3/4/5 would be more balanced.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            it legit depends on your height and arm length tbqhwyf

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is a whitepill thread, not a "lie to ourselves" thread. 1/2/3/4 is what absolutely any man under 65 can achieve in 3 years or less. The pinnacle starts at 4/5/6 The whitepill to be had is what [...] said.

        It's also highly depended on bf%. If you're are lean it's way, way harder than for a fatty

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Plainly false. Muscle is just easier to build in a bulk. "Mass moves mass" only applies to muscle and bone.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >t. fatty

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >t. illiterate

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is a whitepill thread, not a "lie to ourselves" thread. 1/2/3/4 is what absolutely any man under 65 can achieve in 3 years or less. The pinnacle starts at 4/5/6 The whitepill to be had is what [...] said.

            post body you won't

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You first, weakling.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I'll bite
                >30 hours in ms paint btw

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Kek. We are not so different, you and I. Fair is fair though.
                >You hide your nips, I hide mine.
                > 1 minute in GIMP

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                While I'm at it, numbers:
                As of today, 155 250 380 475. Hit 1/2/3/4 in june after 1 year of serious lifting, from a start of 90 155 190 225. Bench and OHP somewhat shit, I know.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                While I'm at it, numbers:
                As of today, 155 250 380 475. Hit 1/2/3/4 in june after 1 year of serious lifting, from a start of 90 155 190 225. Bench and OHP somewhat shit, I know.

                >calls other people weak when challenged
                >above 15% body fat
                >waist looks to be at or below a sink counter
                >replies to his own pic for more attention
                anon, how tall are you?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                5' 11. The sink is 3 feet tall.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                kek he's obviously not that short, now you post body anon

                5' 11. The sink is 3 feet tall.

                While I'm at it, numbers:
                As of today, 155 250 380 475. Hit 1/2/3/4 in june after 1 year of serious lifting, from a start of 90 155 190 225. Bench and OHP somewhat shit, I know.

                What was your diet like, mirin that progression

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Diet was semi-random but protein rich. 50 g of Whey on top of the two meals I eat. A lot of Thai and Indian food. Cut out all sugary drinks and all breakfast in order to drink more alcohol.
                >they call me Sinkman Ree

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Post body

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/YsohK7N.jpg

                Yeah I'll bite
                >30 hours in ms paint btw

                It feels moralizing to know I share posting habits with two such good looking gentlemen. Keep it up kings.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                hey it's woochop anon, you trolling boomers with your form in this pic was one of my first whitepills actually, glad to see your still around

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                thank you anon, I'm disturbed you saved a picture of me

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                There's no greater compliment on here than having somebody find your content worth saving

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I know

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>God is up there and ready to help you if ya ask him
    Stopped reading right there. You had a good premise for what could have been potentially an epic thread but ya blew it kid. Now go on somewhere.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      kys satanist

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    stay strong brothers

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the biggest whitepill for me is that I am alive

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Every day ish a gift

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    anyone got screenshot of that long post about the fact that we haven't reached upperlimit in self improvement?

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yikes the absolute copes in this thread are insane. What a great troll thread OP.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have a dilemma. 28 y/o.

    Received a job offer for an internal transfer to an overseas office.
    >better country
    >better city
    >stronger economy
    >better pay
    >more opportunities outside of work - financially and romantically

    The downsides are that it's a larger office and I will be pigeonholed. It's much worse for me technically.

    Meanwhile back home is just living with parents and still barely saving any money. The country is a small pond. Most people make money just to pay bills. Most people can't get ahead. But technically the work I do is much better. spent 2020/2021 working with a literal world expert, albeit in a niche.

    So basically if I transfer, I'm jumping through many of the menial hoops I had to 3 years ago. Transferring will allow me to buy an investment property. I'm thinking I do that and then consider changing job. Nothing feels right yet, and both parties are wanting an answer.

    The alternative is to blow through my savings by travelling/gambling on the stock market. If the stock market plays work, that's a sign to continue with life...otherwise f it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'd take the offer. Everybody should leave their country for an extended time at least once

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I should've mentioned I've been there, done that.

        I've been working offshore at that office for the past 2 years. Have been ups and downs, lately downs. At one point had a decent network and was going on plenty of dates, then that all kinda stopped and I've spent the last ~8 months largely in isolation. Have at least forced myself to the gym semi consistently & been studying the stockreal estate market, so the time hasn't totally been wasted.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    lmao my HS football team was nothing like that. We won state championships but never had any events or parties or anything like that. We were close but that was mainly at school at practice. Everyone had their own small clique, even on our team. It was pretty gay actually, nothing like you would've thought a HS football team would be like, but maybe that was because it was a private school.

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >rest days are a joke
    Not true at all, but the rest is nice. If you are a natty lifter you need MORE rest, not less.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I was so retarded that I was expelled out of 3rd grade, and placed into an alternative school, where I also became an outcast. Guess I didn't "self-improve" myself enough to overcome it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Did you try not being retarded?

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    White pill: how you see yourself is everything. If you believe you are worthy of respect and attention, unless you are actually really ugly, you can get all the girls / have the social life you want to a bigger extent than you think.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Too add to this: you're past failures, or however people treated you, was due to your own view on yourself, not thinking you are worthy of respect or participating , society merely capitalized on your lack of self respect. Really, you can be anything you want. It's the truth

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. The mind seeks consistency in all things, even that which it creates. The moment something is out of alignment or unexpected, it creates friction in thinking and often activates the sympathetic nervous system (fight-flight response). It's why you should pursue that which you convince yourself is already present -- no, not that you're lean-pilled and jacked, but that you're an active/athletic person who prefers to take care of your health.

      Too add to this: you're past failures, or however people treated you, was due to your own view on yourself, not thinking you are worthy of respect or participating , society merely capitalized on your lack of self respect. Really, you can be anything you want. It's the truth

      >you're past failures was due to your own view on yourself
      However I'll disagree with this partly. You can do everything "right" and still fail. The point is not in analyzing the failure's contributions to the bad shit in your life, but rather to give you that friction in thought mentioned earlier because that will encourage a change. The more frequently you view failure as an opportunity to change for the better, the less impactful failure becomes in the long run. Conversely, you can also use the failure to justify negative changes -- e.g., a lot of binging after getting fired or going through a breakup.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Right that's true, but a lot of your problems you believe are due to your innate failure as a part of your being, are actually simply that way because you don't value yourself enough or act in a way that shows you respect yourself. Not all though you're right, some things are really out of our control, but not as many situations as you would think.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      right but how do I actually convince myself of this? even if I try to think this way I don't really believe it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you're at least bit rational it's impossible. Notice how most dumb people have this unwarranted confidence. Basically it's lying to yourself 24/7

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah that's why I decided I have to become worth respecting first, I guess

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Start acting as if its true. Then other people will respond to how you behave, and start treating you like that. When they start treating you like that, you get the respect worthy, confident image of your self mirrored back by others, and you can see your self as a valuable worthy confident human trough that, and so you become that.

        • 2 months ago
          wagmi

          It doesnt happen overnight. I decided to appear more confident and now I truly am. I started to think that i belong where I am and Im no worse than the guy next to me. Speak clearly like people want to hear what you have to say and they will listen

          Thanks bros. I probably have a long road ahead of me though.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It doesnt happen overnight. I decided to appear more confident and now I truly am. I started to think that i belong where I am and Im no worse than the guy next to me. Speak clearly like people want to hear what you have to say and they will listen

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm in a tricky situation and I don't know how to proceed. I've been going on a lot of dates recently and one of them hit me with some emotionally complex criticism; the more I think about it the more true it seems to be:

    >be me
    >fairly active, a lot happens in my life
    >events, good news, bad, interactions with strangers
    >infinite interpretations of that information exist
    >when I conceptualize the events which occur into stories (which is how we all understand things, especially with regards to value and morality), I tend to use the information to create a story which rewards my ego
    >this means I might antagonize the people who have harmed me, or attempt to justify my own behavior

    Currently I'm struggling to counteract this but the result seems to be self-degradation. Its really hard not to conceptualize reality such that it justifies your decisions/ circumstances. Do I go to therapy? Keep a journal? Buy a dog?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Meta-cognition is a bitch, ain't it?
      The resultant stories don't have to be degrading, they can be of humility if that's what you seek. There is a massive difference between humility and self-degradation. Humility is a growth mindset while self-degradation is fixed. Humility is reflection while self-degradation is condemnation. Humility is recognizing the positives others bring while self-degradation is lowering yourself in the face of others.
      Applying this humility mindset to those that wrong, if the wronging is actually genuine, can simply be an indication of matters to improve for yourself -- whether that be pointing out where you could improve as a romantic partner, or how to improve your situational awareness, or what you truly value in co-workers/bosses.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I can never be wrong so I make up stories in my head where I'm always right
      You sound like a psychopath, think more self critically, and how others perceive your actions. Odds are you're not always right and are constantly seen as aggressive at best or ignorant at worst, and reality isn't catered to you, that is truth. Look at things more objectively and not just through your selfish head.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      First off, congrats on identifying the problem. That's step 1. You have motivation to solve it so that's step 2. You're already on the path to improving yourself.

      Therapy is always valuable if you can access it.

      You can start a journal at this moment. Write down what you consider your most important story of the day/week. Read it again a few days later and interpret it. Look for those negative things you want to improve. Don't beat yourself up, this is a self improvement list, not a self hate list. Make a second list of the things that make you proud because only focusing on the negative can be harmful. Repeat. You'll get better and better each time you do it. The end goal is to increase your objectivity and awareness of what your mind is doing. As you keep the journal consistent that objective awareness will start working in real time. Eventually you'll be able to interfere with bad thoughts as they happen.

      Always keep in mind that 100% objectivity and awareness is impossible, monks spend their entire life in the pursuit. If you think you've obtained pure objectivity or awareness you have failed and will stop growing. As long as you keep that growth mindset you'll be healthy and continue to learn

      If you want a book I found "Emotional Intelligence 2.0" helpful on my journey. They give a lot of practical things to try out and its an easy read. You can ignore the business jargon without issue.

      Meta-cognition is a bitch, ain't it?
      The resultant stories don't have to be degrading, they can be of humility if that's what you seek. There is a massive difference between humility and self-degradation. Humility is a growth mindset while self-degradation is fixed. Humility is reflection while self-degradation is condemnation. Humility is recognizing the positives others bring while self-degradation is lowering yourself in the face of others.
      Applying this humility mindset to those that wrong, if the wronging is actually genuine, can simply be an indication of matters to improve for yourself -- whether that be pointing out where you could improve as a romantic partner, or how to improve your situational awareness, or what you truly value in co-workers/bosses.

      Spot on.

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Daily remainder that Aurelius's wife cheated on him with gladiators, therefore debunking meme OP pic.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >109
      what a fitting digits for you

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly I don’t know where i fit:
    >be depressed since childhood but funcional one
    >only joy in life is escapism and beat other kids who killed insects and other small animals without purpose to the point of breaking teeth and bones
    >stopped doing it because of repercussions
    >depression get worse and fast forward to end of uni
    >decided to try to get better, face my fear and find a job that made me interact with people again
    >resisted just less that 1 month but was very good and made a fukton of money
    >started training, learning how to make music and get more friends
    >fast forward to now almost 2/4/4/5 lean, produced about 20 songs, cf1 ISSA, volounteer, friends recognize my skills and I’m training some of them and other people in my homegym, bought my home and the money i’ve invested grew noticeably.
    >never be so depressed and suicidal in my life as i am now to the point that i’ve stopped going hiking because it’s getting to hard to ignore the call of the void.

    I’m rationally thinking that i might be autistic and a NEET life where i drown reality in drugs and escapism is my only way to feel good.
    Thanks for reading my blogpost

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thanks for the thread guys, it's making me feel better.

    >got crippled
    >losing job because I'm crippled
    >girlfriend leaving me
    >just got covid
    >gained weight
    >hairline receding

    Starting to get better from covid and hopped on fin a couple weeks ago. Not sure what I'm going to do to make it in 2023 but I have no choice. I'm 29 and have lost it all. Give me strength for the new year.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >crippled

      great excuse to do a PPPPPPP routine

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Man, I feel this. I was a bitter teen, but once I became older and just could not afford being lazy anymore I had to struggle through waging and other shit. Whenever I failed, to cope, I told myself that I tried my best, so there is nothing to regret. In the beginning it was a lie, but eventually I actually DID try. It helped me to continue to struggle and so I made progress, just a little, but every Month shit got easier. FF a few years and not I have a comfy job, a wife, and soon my second child. We all gonna make it bros. But you have to atleast TRY to make it.

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >rest days are a joke
    POST
    BODY

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    so fucking retarded i am a woman and if you want to talk seriously lurker#0309

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    did deadlifts and OHPs for the first time this week, I have to say they're real fun

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