Whitepill Thread

Escape self pity and join the winning side
>anyone can start lifting, you don't need any prior sports experience
>you can escape skinnyfat mode in less than six months
>it takes less than a year for people to notice you lift
>programming as a beginner is piss easy, everything works
>diet is just as easy, just eat some protein and avoid fast food, candy and soda
>you don't need a gym subscription to achieve a decent physique, you can get a good workout even with a pair of dumbbells from home
>mires become so common they don't even register anymore
>people notice you lift even under winter clothes
>1/2/3/4 makes you stronger than mostly anyone you'll come across in your daily life
>once you see results you won't even think about skipping the gym
>consistency is the key to a good physique, even if you drag yourself to the gym you'll appreciate every single workout in retrospect
>a good physiqye has a halo effect on anything you do
>being motivated by hope and love is much more effective than being motivated by anger

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ever noticed how the blackpill attracts only loser while champion continue to endure?

    >"The fight is won or lost far away from the witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."-ALI
    >"Impossible is just a word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing."-ALI
    >"The last three or four reps is what makes the muscle grow. This area of pain divides the champion from someone else who is not a champion. That's what most people lack, having the guts to go on and just say they'll go through the pain no matter what happens."-Schwarzenegger

    Its almost as if succesfull people try to makw other succesfull while loser try to drag the rest down with them just to have a consolation

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Just be over 6’2ft, elite fighting/bodybuilding genetics and be the best in the world dude….

      If Muhammad Ali or Arnold were 5’2ft Indian Janitors and tried to do bodybuilding/boxing, you would never know their name

      >B-but muh Floyd Mayweather
      Still great genetics, and people talk about Tom Cruise and all that exceeding because they are the exception, not the rule (whilst also having great genetics in other areas)

      Some men aren’t mean to make it, and that’s fine. Just chill out bro. The natural state of man is not in a constant ‘struggle’ it’s sitting down with your tribe and going for the occasional hunt.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Rocky marciano

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But anon, you are not a 5'2ft Indian janitor, you are in fact a mental garden gnome. Don't get confused.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Loser mindset. Drop "genetics" from your vocabulary immediately. You're correct that not everyone can be a world champion fighter but everyone CAN be the best version of themselves. With hard work and the confidence that accompanies it, literally anyone can "make it." Touch grass and come back to this thread when you escape the hellish incel mindset you seem to be stuck in.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        kill all crabs

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I too went through a crab phase. The key is to realize that the success of other men =/= your failure. Success is not a finite resource reserved for a special breed of man unlike what the Cobra Tate's of the world would have you believe. Grind, brother. You can still make it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fuck off garden gnome

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most gnomish post ITT

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The blackpill is for the weakest of will who like to pretend they are smart

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      None of this has to do with women and is therefore objective actionable advice. Obviously if you stick with a gym regiment you will get better at gymming. You make it sound like this is in contention.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >obviously
        You forget that some newfags that enter this place simply have no clue what to believe, and sometimes you just need to handhold people. Not everyone can decipher the good and bad and truth and shitposts, and if you just leave everyone to find their way through the murk, you'll lose more than you needed to weird diets and retarded shit.
        We must uplift our fellow bro's.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's not obvious at all. So many people on this board unironically think they don't have results because of "genetics", while not having even remotely good consistency, program, diet and sleep.

          >it's not obvious
          It's about as obvious as "pick heavy thing up = ability to pick heavier thing up down the line"
          There is not a single argument against the fact that a gymcel can't become more gymcelled.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ok, cool

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          amen

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not obvious at all. So many people on this board unironically think they don't have results because of "genetics", while not having even remotely good consistency, program, diet and sleep.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >None of this has to do with women
        So?
        Why does "objective actionable advice" only have to concern women?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >so!?
          >why!?
          Because the blackpill is not concerned with matters that aren't about genetic determinism. Women being the primary concern of young men who still have their testicles.
          You can hit as many PRs as you like, and nobody will contest that.

          The only thing blackpilling about fitness is that genetics and money wins competitions. However, most young men nowadays with a peripheral interest in fitness are not into it because they want to compete, they're into it because they mistakenly think there is social prestige to be gained from following a sporty lifestyle.

          I never said I was looking for advice concerning women to begin with, and nobody has ever put fitness in general in a context of "blackpilling" and "whitepilling". You know what you did.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    white pill
    black pill
    i just want to lift for god's sake

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Mouth breath for all of your life
    >blame your look on genetics

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mouth breathe due to allergies and I have a warrior skull

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Were gonna need a pic with timestamp

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I look like left when I have a buzzcut and right when I have more

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tfw when I have a great chin but my cranium is still huge and shaped like a gay alien zeppelin

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gay alien skull causes mouthbreathing
      not the other way around

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pizzaman, we deliver!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I do both. I acknowledge that my face is objectively ugly and will take advantage of jaw surgery to compensate. Lifting, while great for health and body aesthetics, is not enough to make me attractive.

      If I was a manlet I would just give up though, because there is no surgery for that. No viable one at least

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Very nice

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Saved

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gutsanon, my brother in christ, I hope you're well today.
    I'm tired of middling around with min-maxing routines and bullshitting my progress. I've decided to re-implement this powerbuilding routine I tried months ago. Not as simple as SS, but still dirt easy to implement, not requiring any silly equipment like the last handful of things I've tried.
    I've also stopped counting calories and began just eating real food. I'm down 4lbs of fat from the start of this year.
    I'll worry about aesthetics later. I just want to lift.
    WAGMI

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hope you're well too man. I don't know what your goals are but I'd recommend setting them as a priority before you switch your routine. You don't want to be the guy that's dissatisfied with both his strength and mass goals after months of training. As long as you pic a simple and goal specific routine that you like consistency becomes easy. Good job on the weightloss and not worrying about minmaxxing it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The goal is improving my overall athleticism and worrying about aesthetics later. I'll be adding things in phases, but specifically
        >1/2/3/4
        >run 10k with an average 8 minute mile time
        >do hiit 2-3 times a week
        >bodyweight static skill work
        For the first few months, I'll be just doing the lift routine and some running. When I'm more comfortable with that, I'll add in some HIIT. Then by fall I'll add in the bodyweight skills. In pieces, I'll be able to gauge my ability to recover and adjust from there. But the 1/2/3/4 and 10k are primary

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hello Gutsanon anon. Are you aware that the OP pic isn't Guts?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The pic is of Kenshiro but the OP is called gutsanon because of a pic he posted some time ago in /cbt/. He's the guy with the barbell in

        https://i.imgur.com/gwu89MR.jpg

        Pizzaman, we deliver!

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I cannot be blackpilled
    I just channel all the blackpilling energy into rage
    I have done this for a few years now and my fury is unfathomable

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Guys help
    I used to lift for 3 years between 2017 to 2020, ages 17 to 20. All fun and smooth, constant progress. Then my father got ill and died and I got heavily depressed and I lived a completely sedentary lifestyle for 2 years and return to skeleton mode. I recently recovered and started exercising again two months ago. However it feels like my muscles are dead. I've been doing the same exercises as before, correct form, however I have not gained any muscle nor added any weight. It feels like my muscles are detatched from my skeleton, or that I'm lifting with my tendons and articulations rather than muslces, idk how to explain it. My arms are all shakey with no strength. I can't go past 20 push ups despite doing 100 consecutive ones when I lifted. I do them every other day and yet I have gained no strength and my arms just shake and give up. Legs seem to be slightly better but arms are fucked. Also my hands are always cold.
    What the fuck happened? Did I fuck up my heart somehow? Do I have to go to a doctor?
    P.S. No I did not take the vaxx and I did not get covid

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't worry about it man, you still have it in you. What is your lifestyle and diet like? Get enough sleep, sun and calories?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes my sleep schedule and diet is the same as when I lifted, I exercise with equipment in my backyard under the sun. Which is why I'm worried that my body or heart is damaged.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      google how to do mind-muscle connection training. also eat more

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Whitepill bros, I can finally kind of see my abs. If only I started training them earlier, I was really retarded to fall for the don't train your abs meme.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't train abs is one of the biggest memes a noob could fall for. It's similar to
      >want bigger biceps? just do chinups bro
      >want bigger forearms? just do deadlifts bro
      if you want to grow a muscle target it, no need to beat around the bush and rely only on compounds

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't train abs is one of the biggest memes a noob could fall for. It's similar to
      >want bigger biceps? just do chinups bro
      >want bigger forearms? just do deadlifts bro
      if you want to grow a muscle target it, no need to beat around the bush and rely only on compounds

      How best to train abs? I tend to do cable crunches, but I don't think they're as effective since it's quite a bit of a hip hinge movement

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        At my leanest I used to do 100 situps a day and my abs were very defined. I kind of slacked in the meantime but thankfully I didn't lose any size thanks to compounds. Now I do leg raises on dip bars, adding weight on them is very easy as well.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >leg raises on dip bars
          I'm the other guy and this is what I'm doing now, I'm not even adding weight yet so here's a nice whitepill for you, if you have biggish legs you won't need weights for a while

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >on dip bars
          also can be done while hanging from a pullup bar to train grip, but you will have to switch to dip bars when you run out of grip strength

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >pullup bar is too low to perform leg raises
            aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              go find a tree that you can hang off of and do it off of that. i used to use a tree for pullups before i got a bar

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Every ab exercise is a hip hinge if you're not doing it right. The most important thing for growing your abs is learning how to activate them, how to execute movements with proper form. If you're well practiced at making your abs work, any ab isolation exercise will hit your abs well.

        Literally stand in front of the mirror and try to flex your abs. Feel them tugging on the different sections of your trunk, trying to bend your spine into flexion. Put your hand on them and feel them while activating them. Do this before exercising, and also any time. Also, clenching your glutes is a helpful cue to keep your hips extended, so you don't turn it into a hip hinge.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Different anon gettin' there. I've been doing a mental trick with myself in hanging out with my shirt off when I'm alone, and it's late. Activating my abs, flexing muscle groups, and visualizing what underlies the garbage that's melting away. My window is (thankfully) not facing anyone in the apartments but its pretty reflective and puts me in a good light to do so, and I spend a lot of time standing/moving around. It definitely makes a difference, long as you're not gonna be plagued by body dysmorphia lmao, and that's just not a factor when if you don't agonize over looking at egoists online and being satisfied by your own progress. I know I'm transforming and don't need their "help"

          There was some early 20th century era lifter, forgot his name, wrote a book about it. Gimme a sec. Eugene Sandow - Strength and How to Obtain it.

          Consistently, form, mind. Putting the mind into it along with the body with deliberate movement and focus.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Every ab exercise is a hip hinge if you're not doing it right
          are crunches tard-proof enough? it's what I'd default to, and later add in the ab wheel probably, although I can imagine that one easier to fuck up into a hip hinge

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so is it a meme that I'll have visible abs without training them as long as I keep cutting? I could already see my ribs but no abs

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've never posted body before so sorry for the shitty pic but I couldn't see any of this last month, granted it's not much and I did lose some weight in the meantime, but no more than 1Kg. When I was younger I could get visible abs just by getting thinner but I was also a yogafag so I'm sure that helped.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          honestly looking good my man, keep it up. And I will start doing 100 situps or crunches a day or whatever just to start with. But I'm still planning to just cut from now all the way into summer.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            YAGMI bro, I was 92Kgs last January and I'm probably the laziest person ITT

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              thanks bro

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >100 situps
            Man, I wish I was not as paranoid about my knees.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              really? It doesn't seem that there would be a lot of stress on the knees. I could also just do crunches instead.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That is indeed crazy paranoid. Your knees will be fine.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so is it a meme that I'll have visible abs without training them as long as I keep cutting? I could already see my ribs but no abs

      https://i.imgur.com/UqtfWnW.jpg

      I've never posted body before so sorry for the shitty pic but I couldn't see any of this last month, granted it's not much and I did lose some weight in the meantime, but no more than 1Kg. When I was younger I could get visible abs just by getting thinner but I was also a yogafag so I'm sure that helped.

      My advice and whitepill I share with you today is this:
      The bigger and stronger your abs are, the higher bodyfat% you can have while they're still visible and defined.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        can I train abs 5 times a week?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yes, if you wanna overtrain your way into a hernia.
          limit your training just like everything else so you don't overdo it, especially with something you use so much

          you won't grow if you just tear your muscles apart and give them no time to recover.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    bro, if your pill is that black, how can you not noose yourself yet? it's not that black as you hoped it to be, have a nice day

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    All of this could be 100% true and I still wouldn’t give a shit.
    I’m done being a depressed sack of shit all the time.
    Yes, I’m a loser. No I don’t care.
    Once you ascend past the “blackpill” (I feel so retarded for even saying that word) nothing can stop you bros.
    Love as much as possible bros.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >blackpill thread got deleted
    nooo how will I blame my failures on others now?

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's your favourite lift hopebros? Mine has to be the OHP, I'm shit at it especially because I'm cutting but I look forward to it most days of the week

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My squat is shit but I still love it, it's so primal and intense. It's like I have the weight of the world crushing me and I have to push through it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Used to be OHP, now I'd probably say bench. The grind to increase my working weight was long and getting it down with perfect form and seeing my chest puff up feels too good man

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OHP for me. I'm at 155 and hoping to shoot for 185 lbs soon.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >I see a Whitepill and I want to paint it BLACK. No colors anymore I want it to turn BLACK

    Aaaaand stopped reading HAHAHAHA you fucking moron you spend like 10 minutes burning neurons to type all of this shit

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >blackpill post deleted again
    el oh el

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hey guys, Im back. She said yes

    Stay Strong Kings

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      turns out it actually was that shrimple all along

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fuck yeah aquariumchad, happy life to you

        Thanks bros, heres a fish for you guys

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          happy looking fish, anon

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I feed them 4 times a day 🙂

            Based.
            I wanted to ask you - were you always interested in fish before getting an aquarium, or did you get one on a whim?

            when I was 2-3 i said I wanted to be a marine biologist until I was about 11, then my parents convinced me that it wouldn't be a sustainable career. rediscovered my love for fish when I was 14. got my aquarium a year or two later.

            one last fish picture because my fiance wanted me to post her favorite tank (she likes that they have little houses)

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Hey I got those malawi babies as well, nice to see an anon with the same fish

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          he cute

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        kek

        https://i.imgur.com/rwRDczF.png

        hey guys, Im back. She said yes

        Stay Strong Kings

        see picrel.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck yeah aquariumchad, happy life to you

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based aquariumbro.
      I found my passion. I just need to find a way to leverage it into something that has guaranteed health insurance to cover my insane prescription bills. I can learn to sleep on a couch and subsist on ramen in my 30s. But all of it is for nothing if I can't afford my meds.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based.
      I wanted to ask you - were you always interested in fish before getting an aquarium, or did you get one on a whim?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Beyond based

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        amen, Steve1989MREInfo is a prime example of that approach too

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Congrats bro

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Proud of you, brother.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Great job aquariumbro, Here's mine
      >Always loved fish as child, had some myself
      >Took care of them but almost no knowledge
      >Loved aquarium stores and always wanted to work in one
      >Had trouble passing grades on HS but skipped final exams during covid so I got my certificate
      >Started studying fish biology at a college
      >1 year in had horrible supermarket job and toxic girlfriend everyone knew about
      >dumped both the job and the girl
      >started lifting because I wanted a strong recovery
      >ex got kicked of college campus for multiple harrassment complaints
      >built some muscle and got a fun friend group
      >got into senior year
      >already 2 internship supervisors offered work at their fish stores because I'm so motivated and easy to work with
      >Already passed some of the exams with an average GPA of 3.1 (B)
      >Planning on working after receiving certificate
      >feelsgreatman.png

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not trying to sound negative, but do you need a college degree to work in a fish store?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Very cool, be sure you know how to deal with the noobs. thats the worst part of the job, but if you enjoy fish and have a good work environment its the best job ever honestly. does not pay well unless you maintain private tanks at people's houses tho.

        https://i.imgur.com/18E0R4H.jpg

        Hey I got those malawi babies as well, nice to see an anon with the same fish

        fish I posted were Neolamprologus Multifaciatus, found in lake Tanganyika. You have a mbuna of some sort, (I dont know a lot about victorian or malawi cichlids, to be honest) which is indeed from lake malawi. looks healthy and colorful. Be sure to feed him some algae pellets.

        Not trying to sound negative, but do you need a college degree to work in a fish store?

        To work at a fish store, no. But honestly, you should need a degree/certificate to sell ANY pet IMO. I cant tell you how many times ive wanted to brain some faggy fish store employee for spewing retarded bull to people who dont know any better. Also it ticks me off that fish aren't covered under any animal cruelty or neglect laws as some are far more intelligent and personable than a good chunk of dogs or cats ive met. my end goal is to pose as some stupid environmentally freindly activist with a PHD. get some smucks to change some laws. and then fuck off and make bank from becoming a black market fish dealer (this would make fishkeeping accessible to those who actually care about fish and make me more money)

        End rant.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >my end goal is to pose as some stupid environmentally freindly activist with a PHD. get some smucks to change some laws. and then fuck off and make bank from becoming a black market fish dealer
          Being the guy who makes them forbidden, then sell them yourself.
          lol

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That would be quite scandalous

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The garden gnome fears the self-made fish farmer. Godspeed anon may your fish swim free and produce many roe

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ayyy congrats Fish King!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We are all gonna make it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      well done King

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I kneel king, may you continue making it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based. Congratulations fishanon

      turns out it actually was that shrimple all along

      xd

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      WAGMI IN PROCESS
      I REPEAT
      THIS IS NOT A DRILL
      WAGMI IN PROCESS

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/QypD7M2.jpg

      [...]
      Thanks bros, heres a fish for you guys

      how much money did you make from selling fish? seems like a nice way to make some money on the side for people that like fish

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Congragulations and mega inspiring my man.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      very inspiring. Thank you anon

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ....it really was that shrimple....

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        turns out it actually was that shrimple all along

        I choose to believe this was the same anon and post a normie gif

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    At the top of this hill, the air is cold. Bitter wind bites my face as I vomit into the snow. I light fire and breath smoke. I plant my banner and I sit down, spinning a chrysalis that nobody can see. In this womb I grow, divide, and adapt.

    I have never felt more human, more man. I am gold covered by the mud as a sapling springs up among it, forming the shimmering heart in a mighty oak. I am marble being chipped away by the highest master of creation.

    There is no rush, only deliberate purpose chipped away every day as a canyon is deepened by the waters of life.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kek I remember this schizo, hope he's alright

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm making it man, hope you are too

        I was painting last night and go some crackhead energy going. Was testing color hues to a brown on these developing core gains cause I was drunk, wired, sleep deprived and thought it'd be funny. Forgot I'd done it, took a shower today and all the paint ran down and dyed my dick for awhile, had a big lmao

        I've got some blues and greens slated for tonight kek

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kek I remember this schizo, hope he's alright

      https://i.imgur.com/z1lU6js.png

      I'm making it man, hope you are too

      I was painting last night and go some crackhead energy going. Was testing color hues to a brown on these developing core gains cause I was drunk, wired, sleep deprived and thought it'd be funny. Forgot I'd done it, took a shower today and all the paint ran down and dyed my dick for awhile, had a big lmao

      I've got some blues and greens slated for tonight kek

      thanks for the inspiration fellas, I'll go out for a walk to center myself, even though it's dark and probably raining and windy

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My faith is an anvil, my soul glows red with from fires of the divine armorer. Every blow struck by his hammer is a test of the steel I am forged in; molding and taking shape of a holy blade, to vanquish every demon that dare intrude upon consecrated ground.

    I am the leather shaped by the hand of Christ into the device he used to drive evil from the temple. It is not wrath lashing out, it is the firm, correcting hand of love.

    Cadia stands, motherfuckers.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why does everything this fucking videogame character says give me chills.?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I saw this video a while ago and it did motivate me during some difficult times. It's really good

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how did obsidian in their infinite cringe luck into such a kino character

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        word is they tried to make him seem like a deranged nut case but it backfired

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Kinda like Rorschach then.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Very interesting. Last night I had a pretty rough break down. I was feeling lost, as I have been for about a year now, and although I'm not religious, my family and various 4chinz anons have suggested I seek the faith. Last night I simply asked for a sign of a direction and some assurance that my plans are the right direction.
      Perhaps this is it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I understand.

        Religion is a convenient rulebook of how to practice, but Faith itself is pure and personal. It is beyond confine or dogma, dictated by you.

        If your request was spoken from the heart and soul, the direction will make itself so obvious you'll question what the heck you've been doing this whole time. Watch every coincidence, get out of your comfort zone, and open the door as soon as opportunity knocks. Consider your request received, and the Divine clerks are extremely efficient in directing you to the correct department. I recommend opening the door with a shotgun however, never know.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Religion is a convenient rulebook of how to practice, but Faith itself is pure and personal. It is beyond confine or dogma, dictated by you.
          amen
          for those that can't seem to get going, sure try a religion that isn't too at odds with your situation
          but you need not be limited by dogma *when* you're able to handle it

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I saw that video too during some very shitty times and it was like a "white pill" of hope for me.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Listened to this on repeat when I was feeling down, lost and otherwise just miserable.
      Especially liked this version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqOa974Z_5U
      Always lifts my spirits, I just feel like doing things for my betterment and through that I can try to help others.
      >"the light of the mind alone cannot dispel the whole world's darkness"
      >"not enough love of god and giving"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Beautiful

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Trigun is also a very inspiring piece of media, a wonderful story about love, peace and the struggle and suffering to protect those things

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/ZHe3zns.jpg

        Trigun is also a very inspiring piece of media, a wonderful story about love, peace and the struggle and suffering to protect those things

        https://i.imgur.com/7KqNkz3.gif

        Based. Congratulations fishanon
        [...]
        xd

        Trigun is based

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          based things usually finish what they started

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Read the manga

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              no

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Read bro, read

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          trigun is gay pacifist bullshit

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    based thread. whitepill is the path to glory. blackpill is the way to surely fail.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This mountain I summit is steep and treacherous. My footing is not always so sure but my strength and will conquer it. It is here I choose to build my kingdom, and here I choose to die. The monument of Ozymandius fell but it was only physical thing. His legacy lives on if all his bricks turned to dust, through his sons and daughters that lived on after, untraceable and unknown but need not stand on the shoulders of their father. You are of a noble line.

    Stand tall my brothers and sisters, fly your standards, sing clearly through the dark nights and light your torches to guide your lost siblings home.

    I apologize for the tone of my posts but this is cathartic writing and getting me in a required mood. I hope my hymns will guide you.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Should I throw out vitamin pills and get some nuts? Am I getting nutrients and vitamins the wrong way? Or should I keep them and use them sparingly when I need a top up because I'll get most of my vitamins and nutrients from actual food?

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here's what I learned and how I've lost 55~lbs and counting, from 260 to 205~.
    Anyone can get fit. Stop trying to min/max like it's some shitty JRPG.
    Stop procrastinating with """""research"""". Stop asking question you know will keep you from doing it. Stop looking for excuses.

    All you need to do is get under the bar. That's literally it. Just fucking pick a program, start, and do some lifts. That's all. Be an autistic retard about the details later.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, unless minmaxing is fun for you, it'll just make lifting more of a chore. You can start with just dumbbells or even no equipment, and once you get into lifting or it becomes a habit you can acquire more equipment as you go along. I didn't even record my progress for the first few weeks.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      True, analysis paralysis has been the bane of many a dyel

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        as the infinitely wise chef john said in https://youtu.be/rf9jVpAEzhw?t=5
        >in fact when it comes to chicken, as well as
        >well pretty much everything, including life
        >it is generally a better strategy to underthink
        >versus trying to do too much
        pretty on point for my life story
        >got rsi due to mental disability
        >got rekt connective tissue for years due to same mental disability
        >stuck in a rut due to same thing
        the mental disability in question being trying to be too smart
        or as my man Marshal said,

        [...]

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Went to the gym early today after I went to cut my hair in the hair salon there was a literal model who got her hair made for her there.
    I cold approached and asked for her insta, she got a bf but these small things account as a win for me.

    Without the gym I probably wouldnt have gone out today and couldnt have experienced this. Gym is good for me I just gotta keep it consistent and fun

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’m 21 and have cycled once before, is it worth it to try to see if I can use HGH to grow taller?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      growing troll ears, nose and jaw is much more likely

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is that Lord Miles?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >tattoo

      :/

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bros, how would you approach this situation?
    >work overnights in warehouse 4 days a week
    >on 3 days off, go to muay thai gym in evenings
    >want to start lifting to supplement training and just overall health and fitness
    I am struggling. On the days that I work, I lack the energy to lift afterwards because of the repetitive nature of the job. My joints feel sore, and generally I just want to go home, shower, eat and then sleep to do it all again the following night.
    On days I dont work, I have time to go during the day, but my sleep schedule gets all fucked up swapping between working overnights. I could go after muay thai, but again, my sleep is all wack. I have narrowed it down to a few options.
    >lift before work, but this means waking up much earlier, and going to sleep much earlier after I get home
    >Lift before gym, but this means my sleep schedule will be doing a 180 halfway throughout the week
    >maintain my sleep schedule throughout the week, but this means waking up for muay thai, going to lift in the middle of the night, and staying up overnight and sleeping during the day
    I am leaning towards the last option, but it would mean putting social life stuff on the back burner. Less time with friends, family, gf, etc

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >but this means waking up much earlier
      the best feeling is working out before other people even got out of bed

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        my bad, i wrote that in a confusing way. I meant waking up much earlier than I currently do. I usually wake up at 00:50, but if I wanted to lift before work I would likely need to wake up closer to 21:00 or 22:00, which would also mean going to sleep earlier when I get off of work.

        Also, I have decided to priortize sleep, and as such I will just become a night owl. I will lift in the middle of the night on my days off and sleep during the day, same as I usually would for work. Thanks though for the input bro

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      do high-frequency, "low" volume (low volume per day, but adds up over the week) and superset - supersets are very underrated, they're only limited by cardio - I'd suggest natural hypertrophy's video on supersets/giant sets. You can get in 4 exercises within 20 minutes, done 5-6 times a week is plenty of volume.
      In regards to not wanting to do it after your job, if your joints are sore id say be mindful of your form when lifting stuff, and remember that lifting will help joint/tendon strength, outpacing your work's stress over time. Not too sure how to deal with the energy deficit if your micros/macros/sleep are already optimized, though the lifting might help that as well.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How do i become more exciting?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kill your neighbors pitbull and get away with it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To whom?

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want to get into boxing but it’s so hard. It’s so fucking hard. I’ve lifted, ran, skiied, played tennis, swam, and done yoga at various points in my life, but boxing feels like learning a different language. I want to do it but I’m having a really hard time finding the motivation when I’m already so depressed. I want to box because I think it may improve my life and fill a big hole. How do I crawl out of this hole?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Watch lots of fights and try to throw punches without using your arms. Literally let your arms hand loose and try to whip them around with your hips and legs.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Watch lots of fights and try to throw punches without using your arms. Literally let your arms hand loose and try to whip them around with your hips and legs.

      The hardest part about boxing is not having others to spar with. You can throw 1 2s all day, shift weight, slip, roll, etc. but until you're standing face to face with someone who wants to hit you then you'll never learn timing, distance management, punch selection and staying calm under pressure. It's so vital.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I feel excrutiating pain when I box, in my fingers. Like my joints will bust and I'm being hit with a hammer, and I can't open my hands anymore for a while. I suppose it's artrhitis or pre-arthritis, so there goes my fighting hobby in one fell swoop.

        >inb4 mma "gloves" or bare knuckle, nobody does that to train

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you have lessons? When I did MMA lessons I couldn't get enough and I was learning super fast. You need to find a teacher and gym you click with.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, boxing is tough bro. I love combat sports to death, and I love training and hope I can continue to do so until old age.

      I dont know if this will help, but I try to view going to the gym and training as a religious or spiritual journey. I want to live in the moment, and what better way to do that than to have someone trying to punch or kick you in the head? I also sometimes run into the fun little questions like "what am I fighting for?" and I feel the only way for me to ever answer that question is to continue showing up and training. On days where I already mentally have a lot on my plate, I can go to training and just focus on the physical side, how my body is feeling and responding, etc. Take a more mechanical, logical view of it all. It helps center me.

      Hopefully you continue training, and hopefully you find a way that works for you to turn training into its own motivation. Good luck with whatever path you choose to take bro

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Never give up brehs

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pissi

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lel

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Literalmente yo

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody ever told me how much bigger my cock would effectively be if I lost weight.
    You really need to sell this point harder, I used to be a fatass with a FUPA covering 80% of my cock and only once I lost weight did I realize I have a great cock, really upped my confidence along with the weight loss

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In the end we will all make it, eventually

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Will we all make it? No. Can we all make it? Yes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        where there's a will there's a way

        [...]
        >it's not obvious
        It's about as obvious as "pick heavy thing up = ability to pick heavier thing up down the line"
        There is not a single argument against the fact that a gymcel can't become more gymcelled.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Misquote

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The longer I cut the more the cigarette's siren call gets louder (I already caved in but I'm trying to smoke in moderation)

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I got fired at a new job, got divorced and gonna move back in with my parents to save costs at 31.

    Feels pretty great, all things considered. I have time and energy to go to the gym again, went for my first run in a few months today. I work on projects I enjoy and am taking it easy. Working out is the fuel I need to keep me going for everything else.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Will you pay them rent and do your chores on your own?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nta but it fascinates me what the answers to that reveal about a society
        >pay them rent
        garden gnome brain that leads to the destruction of the extended family and decay of western society
        >do your chores on your own
        was self-evident in muh trad times

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I lived with my parents until mid 20s and i paid my part of rent/energy/groceries to not be a leech. I think that is totaly normal.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What do you guys do to help keep your head down and grind? I haven't lifted in about a month, and am feeling the winter doldrums in life -- hard to get out of bed in the morning, hard to conjure energy at work, hard to not look at the inactivity and their consequences and not beat myself up about it.
    Do I need to find my higher purpose here? Do I need to create some sense of reward for myself? The days are just grinding away

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also, if it is purpose I need, is purpose found or created? I see conflicting items for both, so if it's the latter how do I create that purpose?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've struggled with this before too anon, you're not alone. For me, what helped is realizing you are always faced with a binary choice. yes or no, do or don't. make the bed or don't, lift or don't. don't think about the consequences of the choice, just think about the decision itself, you already know which one is the objectively correct course of action. that made it very easy for me.

      long story short, it's about discipline not motivation.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everything gets easier with repetition, even dieting.
    I dont think of falling off the wagon as anything but an end of a set. I hop right back on because I know next time its slightly easier

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd argue ESPECIALLY dieting, once you have a nice rotation of dishes you can cook that fit your macros you're golden. I eat maybe a couple of variations of 3 dishes week in week out.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is a genuine plea of help.
    Im having suicidal thought every fucking day. I care wayy too fucking much about what everyone else thinks about me and its fucking with my head a lot.
    Im a fucking pussy for this and i know it, but please someone help me or tell me something to unfuck my head.
    Ill keep going as always, but i need help

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's bed time for me so don't expect a reply soon.

      If you are having a bad episode right now get in the shower. Start with lukewarm water, switch to colder so you have some slight discomfort, then warm water that is comfortable. Focus on the water and repeat "Calm, calm. I am relaxed and calm." until the nasty thoughts leave you. Switch to cold, then warm as necessary if they do not. These thoughts are not your own, and you need to get them out of your head first. Then you can explain what else is bothering you.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its just that all my life ive had a few friends but i was alone during a couple of years. I was bullied at school and i have developed a thinking procces in which everyone dislikes me even though its not true. and it fucks with me a lot. Even though recently ive met people who genuenly like me. But i think that its because ive put on a mask, In short i hate myself and think that everyone else does too

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How old are you right now? Are you working out regularly and do you have any personal PRs you are proud of? Do you have a job? Hobbies besides lifting? Are you using drugs or drinking? How do you spend your day to day time?
          If you have developed this nasty thinking habit, your strategy is diminishing and countering them while simultaneously giving yourself reasons to think highly of yourself (and forcing it until it's true).

          People aren't blank slates, but a lot of our thinking and personality can be changed with time and effort. From my experience all these negative ideas could just as well be seen as literal demons feeding off of your negativity. They are no part of your own worth keeping and should be discarded. While you try to, they will do their best to get under your skin, humiliate and degrade you to keep you miserable.

          You need to fill your time with "good things". Working out, getting out into the sun and nature, having some sort of creative outlet, spending time with friend. Remind yourself that you are a good person, write it out whenever you feel bad. Your mind has to become a place where bad ideas cannot thrive. If you drink, take drugs, get little sleep, then you are making yourself more susceptible to this negative manipulation. While you are so malleable - don't do it.
          Sit down, shut up and meditate. Don't think about anything else, but list all the good things you do day to day that make you a benefit to the people around you. If you are lacking in things, do something every day that is positive.

          If you have a nice day, demons win and you're just a meal for them. If you can overcome them, you will become the Golden God you are meant to be.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            im 21. Im 6´7 142kg strongfat. Bulked too far. But i was able to lift 2pl8 in less than a year, also DL 170 kg and squatted 180 kg all without belt. I was fat my whole life and even though i lost weight i had a really bad year and gained weight with a bad bulk.
            I know that my prs arent impressive.
            Also rn my self esteem is in shambles bcuz im fat again, im making the same changes that i made when i lost weight i do cardio twice a week and lift 3 times a week. I want to get laid but if i have 0 confidence I know thats not gonna happen. Im going a couple of days to another country to visit a mate from my career. Im going to have fun bcuz im going to be able to shoot guns for the first time in my life so im looking forward to that.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You were bullied at 6’7? Anyway test would unironically solve a lot of your problems. And it’s really hard to fill out a frame at that height. Even the nba players who seem kind of skinny at that height are on roids. If I was 6’7 I’d go superhuman mode for sure

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no, i was bullied when i was younger and it stayed with me, when i was bigger i just beat up the people who messed with me.
                Later i was alone because people where scared of me.
                And no thank you, im not going to do roids, at least not yet

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                test != roids, you dingleberry

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I’m just saying I had a lot of the same issues and test is the only substance that made a difference. Meditation helps too though, it helps you be more aware of your thoughts and sort of circuit break them when you get on an irrational/selfdesctructive thought pattern. That should help with thinking people don’t like you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It wasnt your fault that you were bullied and it wasnt really personal, you just happened to be there. You did the right thing beating up the bullies, and you're making the mistake of thinking you're too good or excellent for something bad to happen to you, like you dont deserve it, hence the trauma that you carry (how could this happen? this is unfair! etc...)

                Its what I learned from my personal experience. I was bullied somewhat and the injustice killed me. I was too egotistical to humble myself and understand this is life and fair ground for everyone. Too self centered to understand I could just break their skull as well, and tried to lie to myself to convince me otherwise.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You might be right, i think that the trauma has made me kinda develop a victim complex. So thank you for your words man

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Your PRs are better than mine, don't sweat it. I'm 31 and have been fat most of my life, lucked my way into my first GF when I was 20, gone fit to fat several times and getting fit again after some bullshit these past years. I know how it must feel like, I know it can get better.

              You are 100% correct that you need to lose weight to feel good about yourself. You're training program is good and you just have to keep up with it. As long as you are eating less as well, success is guaranteed.

              The rest is a mental game. Whenever you feel miserable, you're more likely to overeat or get lazy. You have to light a burning passion within yourself, make it an obsession to lose weight and be the person you were born to be. Getting laid will be a natural consequence of you feeling good about yourself. Spend time with friends, pursue hobbies because it's miserable slogging through the process when you are dissatisfied with your own reflection. Being proud of yourself is important and you have to fake it until you make it sometimes, but you have to do the work.
              Whenever you feel sad, get angry instead at the injustice of it all. Suicidal thoughts are brain gays trying to slow you down. You will make it!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          listen mate, I think you're underage because that's how I was when I was underage. 20 now. Do not trust what people tell you about the human mind. People keep pushing this positivity bullshit everywhere, trying to hide from these negative thoughts. And the ones who don't tell you "we all have those days, yknow!" As if negativity is something suboptimal. Negative thoughts are necessary, in fact, they are beneficial.
          Everyone does hate you. Every single one of them. Even your closest friend, you parents, your siblings, family, wife, no matter who you trust, you should recognize the fact that them leaving you is not so far off. It's your job to recognize this fact and learn how to live with humans, in spite of this growing division. If you've ever watched Evangelion, it has a good message. Humans hurt each other, we despise each other, we hate each other. And yet, for some reason, the most worthwhile moments of life are those relatively small, fleeting memories spent together with others.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly, just believing in the banality of the things that affect you makes you look at life differently. I've read Jack Hawley's "The Bhagavad Gita: A Walkthrough for Westerners" and think one of its teachings reflects this perfectly.
      In it, a prince, Arjuna, is faced with the impossible decision of either going to war against family, friends, and teachers or just waiting idly for his troops and himself to die. It's an amazing parallel to suicide, having both the pain of action (living) and the pain of inaction (suicide).
      I never recommend books because I believe that everyone's thoughts differ too much for them to have the experience I've had, however the Bhagavad Gita offers teachings that have been kept alive for thousands of years with good reason. Please go read it, anon.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Read Bhagavad Gita
        >Suddenly develop the urge to shit in streets
        >Have no care if animals walk the town and shit all over everything
        >Grow desire to scam old ladies in English countries on their computers
        >Hate redeeming
        Good book with an even better culture as a result.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      First of all, think about the last few people you saw irl. No, not who you spoke to and interacted with, that you already knew about, I mean the random people on the street. Your thoughts were so glancing and unconcerned with them that you probably don't even remember the last people you saw, because you thought about dinner or that one thing someone said, or that thing you were gonna do next. Next, realise that EVERYONE is like that. People truly do not care as much about others as they think others care about them.

      If you want to do what I do whenever I feel the slightest twinge of fear of others' opinions, I do two things
      >pretend i'm the MC of a RPG
      this lets me just fuck about however I see fit, because the rules of the game make it so they won't care, or soon forget. at very worst I'll make someone remember me who would have glanced and forgotten me forever, and probably with a fun story. I think I'm "this one guy I saw today!" in tons of peoples lives, tons of peoples talks over dinner of what they saw that day. (Given I'm autistic as shit and do stuff like going out running in the snow in a sleeveless hoodie and gloves, or running topless in shortshorts only during summer, swim in public places (lakes) and so on but I'm getting way off track here because I wanted to fit some "life is beutiful and life is what (You) make it" in here as well. So the second thing, kinda stoic I guess:
      >Think to myself, what if they hate me? What if they despise me?
      Will this affect my day? Will it affect what I do, how I act and think? Very likely not, fuck that normie lmao, why should I concern myself with what he thinks, especially what he thinks about me? If it was up to me, fucker wouldn't even have the right to vote (he can't bench his own weight and he is not even trying to improve, if anything he deserves nothing but slavery.)

      TLDR; people don't really care that much about others, and even if they don't like you that doesn't affect your life

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/nqOQU2K.png

      First of all, think about the last few people you saw irl. No, not who you spoke to and interacted with, that you already knew about, I mean the random people on the street. Your thoughts were so glancing and unconcerned with them that you probably don't even remember the last people you saw, because you thought about dinner or that one thing someone said, or that thing you were gonna do next. Next, realise that EVERYONE is like that. People truly do not care as much about others as they think others care about them.

      If you want to do what I do whenever I feel the slightest twinge of fear of others' opinions, I do two things
      >pretend i'm the MC of a RPG
      this lets me just fuck about however I see fit, because the rules of the game make it so they won't care, or soon forget. at very worst I'll make someone remember me who would have glanced and forgotten me forever, and probably with a fun story. I think I'm "this one guy I saw today!" in tons of peoples lives, tons of peoples talks over dinner of what they saw that day. (Given I'm autistic as shit and do stuff like going out running in the snow in a sleeveless hoodie and gloves, or running topless in shortshorts only during summer, swim in public places (lakes) and so on but I'm getting way off track here because I wanted to fit some "life is beutiful and life is what (You) make it" in here as well. So the second thing, kinda stoic I guess:
      >Think to myself, what if they hate me? What if they despise me?
      Will this affect my day? Will it affect what I do, how I act and think? Very likely not, fuck that normie lmao, why should I concern myself with what he thinks, especially what he thinks about me? If it was up to me, fucker wouldn't even have the right to vote (he can't bench his own weight and he is not even trying to improve, if anything he deserves nothing but slavery.)

      TLDR; people don't really care that much about others, and even if they don't like you that doesn't affect your life

      FURTHERMORE,
      on the short term, to actively beat the living shit out of depression and at the very least make you feel noticably better in the short term, do the following (and REALLY do the following, with focus and determination) for 2 days:
      >go to bed at a reasonable early hour
      >wake up at a reasonable early hour
      >only browse social media, play vidya, etc after you are already done with immediate chores or to-do things
      >no porn, no lustful imagery like lightly clad thots, social media-short videos or images of thots etc
      >eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner with a reasonable timespan between, only eat proper food, no takeout, or greasy fastfood you just make in the microwave or oven, actually cook
      >go outside for a while, take a walk, hike, or do some cardio, if possible do this during daytime for Vitamin D (and if it's not possible to get daylight with your routine as a whole, seriously look into buying some vitamin D at least during winter)
      >do something productive, wether it be work, studying, chores, cleaning
      >work out at least once per day
      >read for a while, just sit and without distracting yourself from the task just read for at least 15 minutes uninterrupted, more if you feel like it then
      >groom yourself and be hygenic, wether this means shaving your face, getting a haircut, brushing your teeth 2-3 times per day, cutting your nails, showering daily, you are going to take care of your hygiene and you are going to feel more attractive due to it

      Do this, and you may not cure your depression instantly, but you will feel a fuckton better than you did just 2 days before.
      Remember, time will pass regardless of your actions, so you can spend 2 days feeling miserable and getting nothing done, or you can grab yourself by the neck and lift yourself upright again.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Great advice Anon. Stuff like that may seam like basic advice for some but there are people who need to read this regularly

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I need it myself sometimes, and it always works. Sometimes you think you're having "just a normal day", only to realise your diet, sleep, productivity and motivation have been shit for a week, then it's important to take a day or two to reset according to those tips or instructions.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Actively search for the things you actually like about life, AVOID thinking about the bad stuff, even if it is a lot. Even the small things in life can get you going. Then find a goal about a thing you like, anything, it takes time but don't let anyone convince you it's stupid or pointless.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Find an activity to tryhard on. A work that if would bother you in hell if you didn't finish it.
      But in the end one needs more courage to live than to kill himself. -Albert Camus.
      Godspeed anon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pic up one of these bad boys and swing it around when you feel down.
      On other days go for an hour long run at a slow pace that you can maintain without stopping, put some music that gives a different flavor to each of your runs.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not that anon, but where can I get one of those?
        Just finished reading Berserk and I want to swing a big ass sword around to get me off my ass.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Construction supplies, like warehouse type. You can usually find some kind of long metal rod, or rods to make into a single one, check what is available and use your brain.
          Keep in mind that this is not retard friendly training, but very good for people who have just finished the eclipse arc of their life.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Keep in mind that this is not retard friendly training, but very good for people who have just finished the eclipse arc of their life.
            Well said and thank you.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've been eyeing swords for a long time. I want to LARP as Guts, but figuring out a good way to train with it is the hard part. Need a middle ages type set up to make it work.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >but figuring out a good way to train with it is the hard part
          it really isn't if you either know basics physics or have good feel of your own body.
          >Need a middle ages type set up to make it work.
          what are you talking about?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Whats the point of just swinging it when I want to fight?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Just swinging it is a fight.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its all mind games. You are NOT your thoughts. Think of this: what if your thoughts arent yours? what if someone or somethig is putting them there? Its easier to reject them that way.

      Btw you're not crazy per-se. On top of having a bad diet unhealthy lifestyle etc... you could be OCD. OCD is not or not just rearranging things or cleaning. OCD can be recurrent nasty thoughts. Suicidal or thoughts about harming someone else.

      The mere fact that you plea for help is proof that you dont want what your thoughts tell you. Just fight them and tell them to fuck off. You're not a schizo.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      always remember that you have jester's privilege, anon. what is it? the freedom to do and say what you want, free of consequences and judgement. i say this not as a doomer blackpill, but life is utterly meaningless. keeping this in mind is good, as it reminds us that we are free to be true to ourselves.

      the most important thing to understand is that no one can give you jesters privilege besides you. you must embrace it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Buy a Bible, any popular translation it really doesn't matter as much as people make it out to be, and start reading the New Testament
      Attend a Church at least once a week, preferably Orthodox

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Brother, I am not sure if what I will say will be helpful or not, but I believe it comes from sincerity.

      I have been suicidal, I have felt worthless, I have thought there was nothing to live for, to wake for, to strive for. I'm sure many others itt have felt the same. Yet here is a thread filled with beautiful people sharing loving ambition and blessings. Every day and moment we are challenged to be more than what we are. We can temper our thoughts, our hearts, our actions, our habits, and our beings. We become what we do, and we do what we are. The hero is he who is in the act of becoming heroic. The hero is just as much the climber at the bottom as he is the vaulter at the summit. Then, a new mountain rises, of a new sort, of a new breed. Your heroic path is your own. You have a beauty and a splendour even you can not know all parts of. Find the courage and the faith that choosing to bear your challenges and overcome them is (1) within your power, and (2) will result in a true Goodness, quality, truth, purpose, fulfilment. Faith is more than feeling, more than thought. We can become so much more than what we sometimes believe. We can limit ourselves with boxed thoughts. Every man who has ever surpassed a limit once bears truth to this - and that is every man. Have patience my friend, forgive and love yourself, then aim at the good and go there. Truly, if I saw you I would embrace you with love and bless you. Because you have spoken with honesty and sincerity. And I know the pain you come from, just as much as I know the virtue that can still come from you, and beyond that yet to be discovered. Practice conscious, loving choices in how you think about your self and your capacities. How you relate to your existence and experience. Be the hero now which brings out the hero of the morrow. Bless the divinity in you.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        thanks man. Its ironic that i find more support from here than from people irl

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Being known (irl) to other people requires courage. You have to present things, stand behind them, be willing to be known. The more that you are known the more capacity someone has to hurt you. This is why betrayal comes from the tribe and the kin. It's the hedgehog's dilemma. I hope you find the courage to face your fears anon. Without others we are nothing. If you can believe there are things about yourself worth sharing, and things about others worth hearing, I believe you will find real connections. Your issues and history will present its own questions and problems, but I believe if you hold to the light of "yes, good can be" even in your deepest darkness, the Sun will rise again. Good luck friend.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    From my journal. I always fail and today I've decided to see that as a symptom instead of a character flaw.

    >I think my attempts at change always fail because I've never been convinced that I can change.

    Context: I try to pick up new habits and try new things but I believe my mindset and my preprogrammed beliefs always snap me back into where I've always been because that's where I feel like I belong.

    Journal continued:
    >I want to write in my quotes notebook "I can change and cultivate my mind and body to move in positive directions. I am not stuck where I am, I can improve." Maybe I should write that a few times every day. I know I used to do that sometimes, but I mean really trying this time: setting intention, writing that five to ten times, and basking in the euphoria and agency that I can improve myself, I can be strong, I can be smart, and I can be kind.

    I've been reading Psycho-Cybernetics.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Really liked this post anon. I too am a journal chad, and had a similar train of thought regarding limiting beliefs just today. I am going to practice that mantra too. Would you recommend psycho-cybernetics? I'm currently reading Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >trying to find some joy in life
    >overstressed so take a day off to spend the day with a friend
    >have a fun day with her, go to restaurant
    >Out of every time, every place possible, I come across my ex there
    I try to be more positive but life keeps shitting on me again and again and again. Luckily I was well-dressed and a whole load buffer than when we broke up.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's in the past anon and it should stay there

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >being motivated by hope and love

    I tried to lift but got into an argument with my girlfriend and broke down crying in my home gym and quit after my chest session (still had to do arms and abs)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What happened anon?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Her btch forever alone sister convinced her that i was using her so we blocked eachother and went no contact for like 6 hours, back together, tho

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Last night one of my best friends(female) said I can't be part of their life anymore. Said they had people in their life that could care for her and she could go to and I couldn't care for her anymore. Said that the fact I had feelings for her created issues(I was upfront that I had feelings develop and she said she didn't and I was okay with tat cause I'm not a teen). No more being alone together, checking in, supporting ect. but we can be together in groups. I can't act like we didn't have anything.
    We had so many plans and we share so many freinds and she's really doing well now. I am happy she's doing better but I am crushed that he doesn't want me to be a part o her life anymore.
    I grieving someone alive. I don't know what to do anons. I've been praying but I feel so lost in despair, nauseous and almost wanting to neckmyself. I don't give up on people, feels awful being so disposable to someone after being so close

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know it's not whitepill but dang it's so tough and makes no sense if she cared
      idk how to have hope in it from something like this dashing me

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >anon learns that women are cunts
      Congrats. Now either find a woman to hate fuck and take out your aggressions on (maybe even with BDSM) and/or never allow yourself to be controlled by a woman that much.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Goodsped anon. We all have ben there.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i mean yeah, shes a shit friend. reasonable to feel that way.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/HqvZfcp.jpg

        Goodsped anon. We all have ben there.

        >anon learns that women are cunts
        Congrats. Now either find a woman to hate fuck and take out your aggressions on (maybe even with BDSM) and/or never allow yourself to be controlled by a woman that much.

        Thanks anons, it' trash we share a friend group, and she's off being happy and acting like nothing happened, and I'm honestly scared of seeing her at a mutual event and gutted knowing I can't celebrate some with her.
        Fuck. Why was this so disposable and trivial to her? She made all the decisions and then put out an emotional restraining order ontop of it.
        Worried I won't be able to move on, or if I hear she's found a guy that I'll neck myself

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I had a girl do this to me in college, she would have parties with all our mutuals and leave me uninvited. You can either talk to some of the people in the group who you feel are truly your ride or die friends and explain the situation (carefully choose who you tell, false friends will cause this to backfire immensely) or you can mind fuck her back by putting up a massive front and continuing to enjoy social events with your friends as before (she may also very well be shit testing you to see if she has your balls in her hand, if she knows she does she'll squeeze, hard.)
          Either way I'd recommend trying to find some new friends outside your current group just in case she tries to 86 you from the group. Either way anon, a quality person doesn't treat another in this manner, hopefully that brings you some solace.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            hadn't considered it a shit test. Not ready to put on a front though at group events. but maybe down the line, right now no contact, I appreciate the advice anon. I'm grieving but you're right a quality person doesn't treat others this way.
            Hope your heart healed from the college one. (I know my balls are deifnetly still in this girls hands)

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >be fat
    >get fit
    >get family
    >lift with family
    >prevent them from fat

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thank you Kenshiro

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You know what bros, it could be enough that the whitepill thread is a thing but I'm gonna take it a step further and put myself out here

    If you ever feel alone, want someone to talk to, someone to remind you what you're fighting for, just be your bro, I'll drop my discord tag if you're interested. I'm not shy to VC/cam with just about anyone either; it's engaging, comforting, and keeps me kind of grounded. Feel free to give a ring if you need a presence, just ask

    I live in a fairly isolated, non-burger friendly time zone but also don't sleep much and work late so you can get a hold of me at most hours

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Icyghost777#2032

      I'm open to merging new folks, love the community here, like I said in a thread a few nights ago you guys helped me win a fight, yall my bros

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Got you anon.

        Bullshit Matador#3112 for anyone interested. Build the tribe.

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you join a fitness class, don't be one of those idiots who stands in the front, barely keeps up, then leaves before class is over. hate crowds? hide in the back, take your time, learn, everyone you see in a fitness class was shit at one point, and no one cares about someone there for their first time

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    plateaus and injuries are difficult to deal with
    just remember that doing nothing is less than nothing
    giving up is a negative that never stop taking away everything you have until there's nothing left of you
    remember to fight for what you have and keep on schedule while you figure out how to overcome and progress
    stagnation is also a victory, be proud of what you have, anons

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >6'1"
    >200 lbs
    >~8% bf
    >mires all around
    >still want some fat bitch to make me her slave and dominate me in bed and make me call her mommy
    >basically want to be her play thing
    How the actual fuck do you make this fetish go away? Yes this is serious.
    >inb4 mommy issues
    No shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      roids to chud pipeline is real

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Where was it mentioned that roads were in my system?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Stop masturbating, stop fantasizing, stop looking at suggestove pictures, go for a walk. Come back here in in a year.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >1 year
        God help me.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Realistically could be a lot less. Any fetish takes time to excise.

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I never lifted seriously, I simply picked up some weights and did what was fun to me.
    But mommy has been saying how thin I've become, "Where did those shoulders of you go? Where's that perky butt?"

    How do I actually lift with passion, what goals should I set myself?
    Make a trainingplan?
    I am pretty much underweight, I don't eat unhealthy, plenty of vegetables, meat, and fruit.
    But I have trouble eating more than once a day.

    Discipline seems to be what I lack most, I can't find motivation. I am trying to get back into it, but I feel like I am just stumbling around.

    How do I lift with passion?

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    MY BLOOD WORK CAME BACK ALL NORMAL, NO MORE PRE DIABETES LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      B A S E D

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah if you're type 2 you can completely reverse it by not eating carbs at all.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      well done bro

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hell yeah brah

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    posting in a blessed thread

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Keep up the good work

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks anon

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm shorter than the average male and I still look like a kid with my body even when I have been working out 5 times a week. It feels like no matter what I do, I can't look better than anyone else and that people will continue leaving me once someone better comes along

    I don't know how to keep this up when I feel like shit everyday and I can't help comparing myself to other people and feeling bad

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You recognize the problem within your own post, m8. Its not an overnight solution, but you stop comparing yourself to others. The competition, the foot race, the mogging, all if it is only played against one person -- the you from the day before.
      It doesn't matter who you were 10 years ago. How many sad boomers around droll about the good ol days? How many people peak in high school and let their life go to shit after graduating?
      It doesn't matter who you are tomorrow. Focusing too far in the future will distract you with anxiety and shitty time lines. Your goals should point the way to ensure you're on the right path, but having goals is not the game.
      You have today's version of you and he is squaring off against yesterday's version.

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly banking on being sexy as fuck when I lose 15 more pounds. I’m already 188, and I look way better. Plus I’m eating chicken non stop and doing no fap my hairline I regrowing and my hairs thicker. White hoe lets go

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Motivational and quote videos and tiktoks are corny as fuck but props to the guy for making the best of his situation, plenty of retards here would compain about no gym like they did in the first lockdown. And he is right, stagnation is death.

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A year ago I've commited to bringing myself back from the dead, I was a wreck, been drinking for the past year, got fat and just not good for anything anymore. It took me a few months to get back on track, I quit drinking, smoking, got back to lifting which helped a lot in bed where I had great problems which were an even greater burden on my head and my relationship. When everything started to work out, back in july, a day before our 4th anniversary she broke up with me by a fucking phonecall. Just when I've fixed myself, fixed my relationship which both of us agreed that thanks to all the work is the best it has ever been, we were supposed to move in together in september, but I guess it was not meant to be. So I fell, in a quick moment all the strength I had, all the proudness I had simply ceased to exist. It is kinda funny how we think we're unstopable until something does stop us. It was easy to grind with a clear destination in mind, with knowing what to do and at that moment I lost it all. All the plans for our future, all the hope for being happy etc. It was a hopeless and dark time for me, even worse than when I've tried killing myself years ago. It is hard to keep going when there is no hope for you and you don't know why you should keep going. But I kept on going and now I am at peace with myself, it is a feeling I have never had in the 30 years of my life, simply trying to live a good life and be a good person, focusing on the journey, not the destination. While I like to say to myself that the only thing I'm good at in life is getting up again and again even now I'm amazed at the fire I've found inside. We all have that fire, we just have to grasp it, even if it dims from time to time it's still there, waiting for you to embrace it.

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >you don't need a gym subscription to achieve a decent physique, you can get a good workout even with a pair of dumbbells from home
    Where can I read more about this?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No need to read anything about it. I wrote it based off of my personal anecdotal experience during the first lockdown. You are much better off if your goal is aesthetics and not strength though. Just apply the same principles as you would with any routine, high reps, training close to failure, on tried and true lifts like dumbbell presses, curls, shoulder presses, flyes, dumbbell splits squats etc.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Alright, what kind of dumbbells should I get?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Get yourself some 18" spinlock dumbbells and as many 10lb plates as you can find/afford, as well as 4 5lb plates and 4 2.5lb plates if you can find them. 14" spinlock handles tend to be a bit short for holding any serious amount of weight, 18" are the sweet spot. Once you have those, get started with the Fierce 5 routine:
          https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=1266579671#post1266579671

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Adjustable ones, any kind will do, and some plates. I started out with four 5kg plates, four 4 2.5kg plates and four 1.25kg plates but you can ad more if you want. I assume you are just starting out so I recommend you do a 3 day full body routine. I can recommend some exercises which target every muscle group

            Thanks, guys. Wagmi.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Good luck friend

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Adjustable ones, any kind will do, and some plates. I started out with four 5kg plates, four 4 2.5kg plates and four 1.25kg plates but you can ad more if you want. I assume you are just starting out so I recommend you do a 3 day full body routine. I can recommend some exercises which target every muscle group

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just move your body and/or lift heavy things.
      Don't think about it too much, you don't even need equipment, doing burpees and pullups will get results and you'll have cardio for days.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was literally on the verge of an hero until I decided to lift. I started slow with just bodyweight training at home and started in the gym about a year later. I've always been known in my circle as the skinny guy, but I've finally started getting mires, even from guys bigger than me. I sleep better, I eat better, my mood is all around better on the daily. I never got a diagnosis, but I think I literally dragged myself out of a potential depression by lifting.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      proud of you man

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Best thread on IST atm

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no, I don't think I will let another batch of underages fall for this shit

    >whitepill
    >people notice you lift even under winter clothes
    >mires become so common they don't even register anymore
    Notice that a very significant part of lifting is just so that you attain value under the judgement of others. "lifting for myself" doesn't exist as a main drive for self improvement, it is always accessory to lifting for others. It's normal to seek approval and I'm only even mentioning this just so some autist won't come and say LIFT FOR YOURSELF BRO. No one enjoys lifting, you enjoy the results and (by consequence) enjoy the sacrifice you do at the workout because you know you're sacrificing yourself for a future gain.

    The 'whitepill' is mistaken because it automatically associates lifting, and progress from lifting, with success elsewhere. It associates lifting with social success. It associates lifting with women. And I can guarantee you, being certainly older than the average of this board, that lifting by itself will not bring you anything. You will not escape inceldom by lifting. You will not become socially successfull by lifting. If you don't already look good, people will not 'mire' you. No one will speak with you.

    I am not telling you not to lift. I do, and I continue to do so even after realizing that it will not bring me women, nor will it bring any social relevance whatsoever. You'll go from the odd, antisocial guy to the odd, antisocial guy that lifts. If you're a ghost, you will be a buff ghost. You will continue being the NPC to other people's lives as you are now, but you'll be bigger. If you lift for women, as most men do, and I did, you will find that it brings you no women whatsoever. You will witness skinny guys fucking and fat guys fucking, but you will miss out. Realize now that most people have all that you seek yet most people do not lift. Lifting will not save you and you fool only yourself by thinking it will.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NGMI bro, I experienced the exact opposite. Female attention and people treating me better while still being the same autist I was before.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >le postmodern deconstructivist analysis

      Lmao stfu fag, nobody cares.

      >nobody enjoys lifting

      Imagine falling for this lie, lol.

      >demoralizing text

      Next time shit in the toilet, dont spread your crap to others.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Women do not like shredded men, they like shredded men who already looked good before they step a single foot into the gym. A good body will never truly compensate for a flawed face, or a lack of height, or, more brutally, a lack of social standing that is required for having women. if you are seen as weird or a 'loner' in your social circle, then no body or appearance at all will save you.

      This 'whitepill' only gives false hope to otherwise hopeless men. This false hope will eventually be shattered and will be much worse for whoever believes in it the further down the lifting hole they go. Many men go into roids because they think these will give them the body they need to finally function and get women, or respect from other men, in a few cases. As you can imagine, this either ends in frustration or further mental illness, and they keep telling themselves they're not big enough 'yet' but surely a next, slightly stronger cycle will give them the results they want. These men have 50cm arms and swear by God that by 55cm they will get girlfriends.

      Don't fool yourself or let yourself be fooled. Lift - lifting is good, improving yourself is always better than not doing so. But never, ever do it under the idea that it will give you women, because a man should already have women by design. "Normies", or whatever you want to call the vast majority of men, do not need to do anything to get women. It just happens. This is the normal course of nature and life. What you are doing is pinning the cause of your extraordinary issue on your body, ignoring the fact that there are men with far worse bodies, skinnier or fatter, which have functional love and sex lives. Lifting will not aid you because your body was never the issue.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Lift - lifting is good, improving yourself is always better than not doing so
        kek you couldn't even come up with a real reason, just vague fuckeries?

        >a man should already have women by design
        >"Normies", or whatever you want to call the vast majority of men, do not need to do anything to get women.
        absolutely delusional drivel, shan't reply to this sewage anymore

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Its like a fucking idea cancer that guy, spreading disease everywhere. Many people lack the wisdom to just shut the fuck up and do and just kill that mental diahrrea

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that's pretty sad

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Introspection and reflection is blessing not everyone is given.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The 'whitepill' is mistaken because it automatically associates lifting, and progress from lifting, with success elsewhere
      Lifting entails also other things such as being able to stick to a schedule, getting your diet and sleep under control, getting to know your own body better and so on.
      For these reasons alone lifting does bring you something extra, and I'm not even talking about the changes in mentality it brings.

      As for everything else I don't know what to tell you man, I was a shagger when I was younger, then I got fat and now that I lost a lot weight and gained some muscle I can see day in day out that they treat me differently compared to when I was fat. Won't tell you any extra segsy details but yes, even having sex with women, whether I already knew them or not, got waaay easier.

      There were also other things you got wrong in my experience (and I'm also way older than the average here) but I can kind of get why you posted this. What do you think would be a good motivation to lift for a "ghost" guy then? If you say none you're retarded btw

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lifting is the perfection of the physical form. You are more than your body and if everything else is trash, the erstwhile goal will fail to be achieved. However, the training and self-discipline you achieve from lifting will make other aspects easier to achieve.
      Working out isn't the only thing you should do nor will it inherently give you what you want. First you must sell the dream and hope the neophyte gains wisdom to see the path to follow afterwards.

      Whitepill offers an avenue for growth, blackpill brings nothing but misery.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Women do not like shredded men, they like shredded men who already looked good before they step a single foot into the gym. A good body will never truly compensate for a flawed face, or a lack of height, or, more brutally, a lack of social standing that is required for having women. if you are seen as weird or a 'loner' in your social circle, then no body or appearance at all will save you.

      This 'whitepill' only gives false hope to otherwise hopeless men. This false hope will eventually be shattered and will be much worse for whoever believes in it the further down the lifting hole they go. Many men go into roids because they think these will give them the body they need to finally function and get women, or respect from other men, in a few cases. As you can imagine, this either ends in frustration or further mental illness, and they keep telling themselves they're not big enough 'yet' but surely a next, slightly stronger cycle will give them the results they want. These men have 50cm arms and swear by God that by 55cm they will get girlfriends.

      Don't fool yourself or let yourself be fooled. Lift - lifting is good, improving yourself is always better than not doing so. But never, ever do it under the idea that it will give you women, because a man should already have women by design. "Normies", or whatever you want to call the vast majority of men, do not need to do anything to get women. It just happens. This is the normal course of nature and life. What you are doing is pinning the cause of your extraordinary issue on your body, ignoring the fact that there are men with far worse bodies, skinnier or fatter, which have functional love and sex lives. Lifting will not aid you because your body was never the issue.

      I reply to you saying that whatever I typed has nothing to do with roids. Everything I typed is purely anecdotal based on my experience of lifting for 2.5 years at the time this was first posted. Lifting by itself won't achieve anything other than making you stronger or better looking. But as I mention in the OP, it has a halo effect on anything you do. It can force you into a disciplinary mindset which you can learn to apply to many other aspects of life. And if you go into lifting specifically to please others or thinking you will become some Ubermensch you will also fall flat on your feet, and probably quit. Lifting is highly unlikely to land you a social circle or a mate by itself. Nobody is arguing for the 50 and 55cm arms you mentioned. But a skinny kid getting complimented for his arms for the first time in his life or a fat kid getting fist bumps for losing his man boobs can be life changing. But the part where I absolutely disagree with you is >No one enjoys lifting, you enjoy the results and (by consequence) enjoy the sacrifice you do at the workout because you know you're sacrificing yourself for a future gain
      Lifting is fun. I've lifted on no sleep, no food or knowing that I will get neither sleep nor food, making most of my efforts useless. The act in itself is fun, the mental clarity after a good session is fun (though you might count this in the sacrifice for future gain part). Not all lifts are made equal. I hate calf raises, OHP kicks my shit in. But bench, front squats, wrist curls I absolutely look forward to doing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I lift so I can mire myself in the mirror

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >no, I don't think I will let another batch of underages fall for this shit

      Aaaand stopped reading HAAAHAHAHA you will never learn, you spend like a half hour writting this garbage

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        rather unsettling image

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >lifting won't solve all your problems bro
      No shit retard, but it's a good step towards discipline, health, and feeling better about yourself for accomplishing something difficult, wich definetely boosts your confidence overall.
      LIFT, it is good for you, it's that simple

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jannies, banish him to the shadow realm. It is where he belongs. This is our thread.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >censorship please!
        >our ideas cannot stand under scrutiny or any opposing ideas
        reddit is that way buddy.

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lord bless you all

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lads, the thread is once again approaching bump limit. I'll head to sleep soon so I doubt it'll still be up by the time I'm awake. It's been a pleasure reading through your achievements and the camaraderie exemplified by everyone in this thread, fishbro in particular was a very pleasant surprise. A year ago IST was full of demoralized genetics, frame, wrists and height determinism but I'm finally starting to notice a shift. So go forth and lift, don't just rely on the stuff I've written in the OP but find out those hopeful truths for yourselves. Till next time friends

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God be with, Chadanon

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      till next time gutsanon

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >A year ago IST was full of demoralized genetics, frame, wrists and height determinism
      Half of those are basically attacks. There are a lot of people that hate IST. They sometimes even organize raids against the most popular boards.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Keep making these threads Gutsanon. You are truly doing God's work. We are here with you

      Anyone else, I'm Bullshit Matador#3112 on discord. AKA the schizo yoga anon if that's any interest. Feel free to add for full on GMI energy

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We will make it bros

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've been cutting while lifting for the longest time now. Trying to shed fat from being a fat teen in high school, and I've been able to build a solid year 1 physique. The problem is the perpetual cut is keeping my lifts from going up, and I know I have to eat more to lift more, but this tiny patch of gut fat holds me back .It stubbornly holds on and I don't know how to get rid of it. I eat at a deficit, I don't eat too much sugar, do I need more cardio?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is it when I do a vacuum and tighten my abs up. It seems to be loose skin and some fat, it just feels demoralizing at this point to keep cutting, not gaining strength, and to keep seeing this fucking patch of fat at the bottom of my abdomen.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Body dysmorphia, confront it. There's literally nothing wrong with your body

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          When I sit down it all wrinkles up like rolls of fat though. I don't get why it's not tight like other peoples. If I have to confront it, how do I do so? This is the farthest I have ever come when it came to trying to kickstart an active, healthy lifestyle. My parents were both 300+ fats that kept telling me all throughout my teens that I wasn't fat yet simultaneously that I'd never not be fat like them, typical crab bucket shit.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            AS a rhetorical question, how many dudes do you see posting mirror selfies in flattering lighting versus how they look when sitting down and not thinking about it? Have you ever seen a thread about that comparison? It's pretty normal man, even when I'm fucking around in the house shirtless I see myself in good light in the mirror and go "Damn dude, you're making that much progress? There's an abdominal line and everything!" flex and mire and shit, and then sit down to do other stuff and look down and it's like there's a massive roll due to how the eye operates on perspective. You ever seen the guys in Fight Club sitting down at some unflattering angle? No, it wouldn't look "good."

            In the drawing world it's called foreshortening. I got work still but know not to let the tricks that the eyes play tell the truth and get in the way of goals. You're good man

            I was fat as shit my entire life. weak too. I skated by all through high school and was a depressed fat sack of shit for a very long time. last year I had enough after weighing myself and seeing almost 310 pound, heavier than i had ever been in my life. I accepted an invitation to get a membership and go to the gym with a friend of mine who had been going for a few years. In 5 months I've dropped 30 pounds from my heaviest. I've hit 1/2/3/4. I'm still fat but I'm so much stronger now. my stomach is shrinking so much. I'm so much better now. at my lowest I was staring at a gun wondering if it was even worth it. now I have a group of friends that feel like brothers and I'm opening a business with them. now at 280 pounds bodyweight i can do sets of 3 pullups. not the most impressive but I previously had never even done one. I had allowed my mind and body to become a prison and resigned myself to rotting away. for the first time in my life I am free. the last couple months ive worked on cardio and sprinting as long as i can, as fast as i can i can almost feel the shackles falling off me. its a euphoria I've never experienced. sex, drugs, nothing compares to how i feel seeing that distance counter go up and still feel like i can keep going. to seeing my strength grow. to pushing more weight than ever in my life. to not being out of breath doing basic things anymore. to looking in the mirror and not seeing that fat piece of shit anymore.

            Based, keep doing exactly what you're doing, MI

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              believe it or not a lot of people that look super tight if they bend over or sit down have somewhat loose midsections. Its the nature of how your body moves, the contracted tissue has to go somewhere. you look good man. most people need a super low bf% to not sag at all, as a former fattie you likely are going to have to just maintain low body fat and try and let things develop get a bigger core to fill out space and let your skin tighten up. If your that self conscious about it and want to tighten up any potential loose skin try some of the shit post pregnancy mothers use. seriously though its not bad at all. your on the right track.

              This... makes a lot of sense. I never thought of it that way, never spoke to anyone who could really relate to this kind of thing cause I'm the only former fat I know of. I'm gonna stop the cut, I've sorta been eating closer to my maintenance and my mood and everything is way better anyways. I'll see you in the next thread.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            believe it or not a lot of people that look super tight if they bend over or sit down have somewhat loose midsections. Its the nature of how your body moves, the contracted tissue has to go somewhere. you look good man. most people need a super low bf% to not sag at all, as a former fattie you likely are going to have to just maintain low body fat and try and let things develop get a bigger core to fill out space and let your skin tighten up. If your that self conscious about it and want to tighten up any potential loose skin try some of the shit post pregnancy mothers use. seriously though its not bad at all. your on the right track.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >believe it or not a lot of people that look super tight if they bend over or sit down have somewhat loose midsections
              yup, saw some more normie lads post pics of exactly that

              [...]
              This... makes a lot of sense. I never thought of it that way, never spoke to anyone who could really relate to this kind of thing cause I'm the only former fat I know of. I'm gonna stop the cut, I've sorta been eating closer to my maintenance and my mood and everything is way better anyways. I'll see you in the next thread.

              ex-fat (chubby pear at least) here too, I have that with seeing my body as more pear-like. in the weirdest way, being in an outfit that made it very obvious I had a proto-V-taper snapped some sense in the ol' thinker
              careful with cuts if they get too prolonged, that's how I wrecked my body (then again I wasn't exercising so tendons decided to say FU)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I pretty much had a high protein cut for most of last year going into this year. I was going strong when I was actually fat, but then I got lean and kept trying to get leaner because of body dysmorphia. I'm amazed at how I never snapped any of my shit, just developed tendonitis in my left hand. I think that explains why I have that though.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah I forgot the high-protein part when I started a 1k deficit, within 3 weeks had right forearm RSI and considering my precarious work situation (filthy half-EU immigrant), got me pretty worried
                I went for high-proton after, but due to autism+bdd kept it up for 2 years
                developed rsi somewhere else iirc, then ocular migraine or some other mini-stroke like shit, then one fateful night a heat stroke or w/e fucked up my balance and gave me vertigo for a few months
                I stopped being too retarded in that way after that, but I had shit reoccur and wreck my shit up. Other puzzling and debilitating health issues too. 7 years since I stopped that tard cut. Silver lining is seeing my abs ("abs on a skinny guy" caveat notwithstanding) did cure me of my "boo hoo I'll always be fat" thing and now I'm not too worried when chub. Also showed me I can discipline+inertia+autism myself into *not* doing something (eating without calorie counting or eating over calorie budget within a few-day window). I'd still beat my past self up pretty well and then give him the key info to not rek his life if given the chance, however. I hope you'll have better luck with healing your brain problems, anon.

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    THIS FLAME INSIDE OF ME
    BURNS BRIGHTER THAN
    IT EVER HAS
    BEFOOOOOOOOOOORE

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was fat as shit my entire life. weak too. I skated by all through high school and was a depressed fat sack of shit for a very long time. last year I had enough after weighing myself and seeing almost 310 pound, heavier than i had ever been in my life. I accepted an invitation to get a membership and go to the gym with a friend of mine who had been going for a few years. In 5 months I've dropped 30 pounds from my heaviest. I've hit 1/2/3/4. I'm still fat but I'm so much stronger now. my stomach is shrinking so much. I'm so much better now. at my lowest I was staring at a gun wondering if it was even worth it. now I have a group of friends that feel like brothers and I'm opening a business with them. now at 280 pounds bodyweight i can do sets of 3 pullups. not the most impressive but I previously had never even done one. I had allowed my mind and body to become a prison and resigned myself to rotting away. for the first time in my life I am free. the last couple months ive worked on cardio and sprinting as long as i can, as fast as i can i can almost feel the shackles falling off me. its a euphoria I've never experienced. sex, drugs, nothing compares to how i feel seeing that distance counter go up and still feel like i can keep going. to seeing my strength grow. to pushing more weight than ever in my life. to not being out of breath doing basic things anymore. to looking in the mirror and not seeing that fat piece of shit anymore.

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My blackpill is that the winning side is filled with losers.

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    does the shoulder version of kneesovertoesguy exists?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, go swim

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Deadhangs breh

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Psst
    https://elifesciences.org/articles/65031

    "Here, we meta-analyze the relationships between six masculine traits and mating/reproductive outcomes (96 studies, 474 effects, N = 177,044)."

    "The strongest associations with the mating domain were seen in terms of body masculinity (r= 0.133, 95% CI: [0.091, 0.176],q= 0.001;Figure 2), voice pitch (r= 0.132, 95% CI: [0.061, 0.204],q= 0.002;Figure 3), and testosterone levels (r= 0.093, 95% CI: [0.066, 0.121],q= 0.001;Figure 4). Height showed a significant but smaller effect size (r= 0.057, 95% CI: [0.027, 0.087],q= 0.002;Figure 5). While not the weakest association, the relationship between facial masculinity and mating was nonsignificant (r= 0.080, 95% CI: [–0.003, 0.164],q= 0.117). The effect for 2D:4D was also nonsignificant (r= 0.034, 95% CI: [0.000, 0.069],q= 0.102), and moderation analyses showed that this was the only trait that showed a significantly smaller effect size than the strongest predictor, body masculinity (p < 0.001,q= 0.006)."

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