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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Skill issue I’ve gotten good at like three things with the extra time

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is it better to just do something else instead of trying to sleep? I really want to sleep early, but always struggle with sleeping for a few hours and regret not doing anything else with that time

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        pick a book that you can read until you're sleepy and don't mind putting down once the drowsiness hits

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    almost certainly your problems are because your sleeping place is shit and I'm not talking about feng shui

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      in what way? i sleep in my bed in my room there's frick all to do

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So what keeps you awake? Do you go to sleep thinking happy thoughts?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't really have problems falling asleep but I just feel like shit when i wake up, feel dehydrated, and wake around 4-5 before falling asleep. and if i go to bed at like 2-3 at night some time during the weekend, I always wake up at 8 or 9 despite being mad tired, couple of years ago i could at least sleep 8-9 hours no matter what (obviously I should keep reasonable bed times, but sometimes that doesn't happen okay)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I know I slept a lot more and was more tired when I was younger so maybe it's just normal and you need more sleep.
            Or go see a doctor. Or practice meditation.
            Exercise helps too. Or hugs from your gf.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm going to try mouth taping, I drool a lot when i sleep so it might be that causing yuge dehydration (I don't have apnea, i checked)

              after that and getting more fit i'm fricking clueless if it didn't fix it (and it sucks getting fit when you are tired all the time)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sleep study might be really useful though, unless you're too poor for that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah i might try one of those electrode ones, the CPAP breathing one came back green

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I thought they did brain wave, observation and breathing in one go but yeah.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >don't really have problems falling asleep but I just feel like shit when i wake up, feel dehydrated, and wake around 4-5 before falling asleep
            That sounds like text book sleep apnea. Get a sleep study asap.
            Some people think that only fat and old people have sleep apnea, but that's just wrong.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nah, I've had a study done, it's not apnea

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just got a CPAP. 2 days of use and I set a 50lb bench PR.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nice man. I've heard of people turning their life around with CPAP machines

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Try this
    >Don't go to bed until you feel sleepy
    >Go to bet as soon as you start feeling sleepy
    >Go to bed and wake up at the exact same time every day, plus minus 30 minutes at most. Once you do this your body will develop a habit and you will feel sleepy at the same time always.
    >Ideally, make sure your PC is not in your bedroom. Your bedroom shouldn't have any devices in it, like TV or PC. Nothing to distract you from sleeping.
    >Don't sit in bed watching your phone either
    >No caffeine after 12 PM
    >Dont drink any fluids at least 2 hours before you go to bed and try to pee 2 times before you go to bed as well
    >Room has to be completely dark and quiet
    >Use headphones with noise cancelling if you have to. I use Sony XM4 to fall asleep and they just fall from my head on their own afterwards
    >1 mg of Melatonin pills may be helpful, take them right before going to bed

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i dread the day where i become old enough to need sleep to function
      i was drunk and drinking energy drinks last night and i was up until atleast like 8:30 am(trying to fall asleep since 5), woke up at 10:30 and i still feel good & energetic today because im 18

      >1 mg of Melatonin
      are you an anorexic midget? im 5'6 and i need 10mg for it to do anything

      Is it better to just do something else instead of trying to sleep? I really want to sleep early, but always struggle with sleeping for a few hours and regret not doing anything else with that time

      the best solution is probably to try harder to fix your sleep issues. long term itll frick you up if you dont fix it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >im 5'6
        The frick does height have to do with melatonin dose lmao
        1-2 mg is more than enough, you're insane for taking 10

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The frick does height have to do with melatonin dose lmao
          the same reason that the dose of anything you take changes depending on height. dumbass. you aren't getting any effects at 1mg, it's just placebo at that point if you actually think it's helping you fall asleep

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            lol It depends on weight, not height. Its just that taller people tend to usually weigh more

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >i dread the day where i become old enough to need sleep to function
        >i was drunk and drinking energy drinks last night and i was up until atleast like 8:30 am(trying to fall asleep since 5), woke up at 10:30 and i still feel good & energetic today because im 18
        Bro you can still function without sleep at 18, but trust me, if you were getting better sleep your mind will be sharper, your mood brighter and your body full of energy.
        It's also aging you faster so you are going to run out of that young energy earlier. Not to mention the effects on your growth but ur already 18

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >i dread the day where i become old enough to need sleep to function
        It happens at like 28 so you won’t have to dread for long

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > don’t go to bed when you feel sleepy
      > do go to bed when you feel sleepy
      > go to bed and wake up at the same time every day
      These are contradictory. How are you supposed to do all of these if you’re sleep by 10 pm one night and not until 2 am the next?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >These are contradictory. How are you supposed to do all of these if you’re sleep by 10 pm one night and not until 2 am the next?
        The idea is to wake up and get out of bed at the same time every morning, regardless of what time you sleep at night. Wake up at the same time each morning and you should, theoretically, start getting tired and sleep at a normal time.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Then die, you weak homosexual.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Me. Smoking weed solves the problem but then I'm addicted to weed and I want to compete in a sport that tests.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      don't listen to this clown. weed destroys REM sleep

      https://i.imgur.com/fB7bU9u.jpeg

      who /chronic sleep problems/ here? I want to fricking die

      have you tried not doing drugs?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >weed destroys REM sleep
        True. I'm so glad I stopped. It was a battle.

        Still drink a lot of coffee, but withdrawal gives me, yup, insomnia. Also crippling depression. I'm a wreck tbh. But whatever. Many successful people have had coffee run in their veins.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It may not be the withdrawal of coffee giving you depression, rather it may simply be your lack of vital energy. If the "withdrawals" continue more than 2 weeks it's more lack of energy than the caffeine brother.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lack of energy maybe causes stimulation as a coping mechanism, which gets disabled if you give your body energy through coffee etc. Some people with adrenal fatigue get this, but to me it just seems like you might lack vital energy. Do you believe this to be the case?

            Sleep can definitely be involved.

            First, what the frick is vital energy, second, I probably am of poor general wellbeing but that's like, a chicken and the egg situation. I just know that I used to drink a lot of coffee which made me feel great, then after a few years I can't drink coffee anymore without feeling abominable. I have been thinking about adrenal fatigue but I'm not sure that it's not a psuedoscientific momscience bullshit diagnosis.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you know there are genes which predispose you to bad sleep and you probably will never be cured?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      also sleep gets worse with age

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Me

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Instead of giving you the generic advice and telling you to down an entire stack of nootropics and vitamins every night just to get 8 hours sleep, I'll give some lesser known knowledge on sleep. Not all of it is about improving it, but it could help.

    - People with a background of alcoholism (or otherwise, damaged/dysfunctioning livers) will find it easier to sleep during the day time due to the relation of sunlight to blood sugar levels - blood sugar levels being higher in people with healthy livers.
    - A spoon of epsom salts, taken throughout the length of a day (to avoid shitting your pants) will help to correct sleep. 100-300mg of magnesium carbonate will also do this.
    - If you find yourself waking in the middle of the night unable to go back to sleep, buy collagen jellies from pharmacy and eat one before going to bed. Also try eating some icecream a couple hours (Make Dessert Great Again) before sleeping as an alternative. Your blood sugar could be crashing in the middle of the night and resulting in a sudden release of cortisol that wakes you and makes you irritable.
    - Sodium could also have a similar effect because of its antagonistic relationship to adrenalines (cortisol etc) in the body and the ability to increase internal body temperature
    - Less sleep = More mutagenic DNA damage
    - Inadequate sleep produces a form of transient diabetes in relation to your metabolism that goes away when you start sleeping properly
    - Big meal, sleep on your left side. Your diaphragm is in good alignment and your stomach expands. This is why in Roman frescoes depicting feasts, they lay on their sides. Lying on your left allows you to eat more food than normal, lying on your right contracts your diaphragm alignment and can be less comfortable for digestion during sleep

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >magnesium
      I've tried it before, and it RUINED my sleep. I'm willing to believe it was something else though because i was a human pharmacy at that point (the medical term is polypharmacy)
      >collagen, sugar
      nah, i have 4 kilos of collagen in my cupboard, it doesn't work. neither does sugar, really
      >sodium
      You mean that i have too little sodium, or too much? You mean that sleep requires adrenaline/cortisol? I know that the internal body temp should be low when sleeping (sometimes when falling asleep i get a huge shudder as the heat is dumped from my torso, and noticably start falling asleep. and also drooling on the pillow)
      >big meal
      yeah, I do this, thanks for confirming that I'm doing the right thing. I also try to not eat that big meals before bed, i found it wrecks stuff (especially if there's a lot of meat protein, which doesn't help with gains)

      thanks for serious discussions anon

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        magnesium shouldn't hurt anything unless you were taking some kind of insane turbo moronic dose or something, body is pretty good at dealing with electrolytes

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i just took like 300-400 mg just as according to the RDA, but then again it can't be natural to ingest that much at once.

          also, as a sidenote, I once used magnesium oil and covered my body in it, and had this INSANE burst of dopamine and energy, we're talking mild psychedelic levels of visual clarity. I can still remember the absolute three-dimensionality of the snowflakes falling outside of the bus, it was unlike anything i've ever experienced. Then i crashed horribly later in the day, but it could be my then unknown newly developed intolerance towards caffeine, although i still suspect it was mainly the uncontrolled dose of magnesium.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do things that relax you make you hyper? Maybe trauma?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              no, not really, but coffee makes me tired and anhedonic

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lack of energy maybe causes stimulation as a coping mechanism, which gets disabled if you give your body energy through coffee etc. Some people with adrenal fatigue get this, but to me it just seems like you might lack vital energy. Do you believe this to be the case?

                Sleep can definitely be involved.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the greatest men in history consistently slept for less than 6 hours. name literally anyone who changed the world and I guarantee they either went days without sleep or would sleep for 4-5 hours per night.

    sleep is a meme meant to hold you back from realizing your full potential. is it a coincidence that almost everyone experiences a rush of energy and mental focus once they enter sleep deprivation? just think of what you could accomplish with and extra 3 or 4 hours every day

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > just think of what you could accomplish with and extra 3 or 4 hours every day
      according to my empirically established character, literally nothing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wish magnesium helped me sleep. it only makes it worse and I get hypnogic hallucinations

      The greatest men in history died young and didn't need to live with our insane level of mental stimulus

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Those accounts are dubious and come from the most tumultuous times of their lives. Of course Julius Caesar slept little during the Gallic Wars. Of course Napoleon slept little while on campaign. If you think these guys went their whole lives sleeping 3 hours every night you’re an idiot.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Another thing from his guide that helped tremendously is to do the following when trying to fall asleep:
    >lay in bed, trying to fall asleep
    >start counting down from 100
    >pause or delay for a split second each time you're about to count down by one
    In the past two years, it has happened to me exactly twice that I've managed to count down to 0 without falling asleep. On regular nights, I get to somewhere between 80 and 30 before falling asleep, whereas in the past, it could sometimes take me several hours before finally falling asleep from sheer exhaustion.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've tried counting up, fell asleep before 300 most of the times. It takes quite a lot of effort to keep the numbers in your head when you're exhausted, makes it easier to not have the space to think

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >getting sleep study done next week
    I hope I get some kind of insight on my sleep that I can actually fix myself. I feel tired most of the day and coffee only perks me up so much. I keep waking up earlier than I intend and I just go into work a zombie until the caffeine kicks in. This shit sucks. I just don't feel like myself in the morning and it bothers me.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sleep studies are pretty pointless. They only tell you if you have sleep apnea or not, which everyone does, and they prescribe a CPAP

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don't listen to this moron.
        Trust me, if you have sleep apnea, you really want to find out and get treated. It may be absolutely life changing.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do you sweat a lot? You might have too much sodium. You could also have a potassium deficiency. Or both. I sweat like a sweat monster and I think it's because the potassium in pasteurized milk is ruined while the sodium is still absorbable.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    not me i take 6 mg melatonin

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You know your body can make melatonin, right? Eat literally anything with tryptophan in it. I am a big fan of milk.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        evening dairy is big. also cottage cheese is high in slow-digesting casein. eat cottage cheese before bed everyone

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fit completely saved my hair. But I’m always disappointed in two things here:
    >supplement advice
    Though I agree with an anon who told me most supplements are useless
    >sleep advice
    Was hoping for some esoteric fit knowledge to fix the problem but this has yet to happen

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > sleep advice
      MAD, MSE, or CPAP if you have sleep apnea. Loop ear plugs if you wake to noise easily. Eye mask if you’re sensitive to light. Silk pillows and high quality sheets if you have sensitive skin. Get cold before bed either by going outside or taking a cold shower and then warm up in bed. Beyond that, it’s just the standard advice. A high quality mattress. Minimize blue light. No electronics. TV off. Cool temp. If you have AC, consider turning it off or using a humidifier.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        MAD = Mandibular Advancement Device
        MSE = Maxillary Skeletal Expander
        CPAP = Continuous Positive Airway Pressure
        One of these will almost certainly fix your sleep apnea

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Me. I’ve managed to improve them somewhat with a whole kit and routine.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >7 hour sleep
    >Startled awake 4 hours into my sleep every time
    >Semi-awake the last 3 hours

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    literally just wake up at a specific time every single day for 3 weeks and set yourself a boundary for when you should be in bed. do not consume caffeine after like 5pm. you'll be fine. it sucked at first but it gets easier.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP here, I just woke up, and I think my bedroom air might be shit, it's very stuffy when i wake up. The ventilation only pumps in (some) air, I don't think there's adequate outflow. I can't open the window either because the birds start their cacophony when it dawns at 3 in the morning

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't sleep for shit unless I've had at least 300-500 kcal of dedicated activity in a day apart from just moving around by job/apartment.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No way around it. The accepted sleep schedule is simply unnatural for most people in modern times.
    My best advice is to take some kind of anti-cholinergic only on weekends to sleep all day while embracing sleep deprivation during the work/school week.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ive always had trouble falling asleep, ive been able to make a lot of progress on it and this is what worked

    >cold room
    its so much harder to sleep in the fricking summer. got a room ac unit and i blast it on coldest about 30min before getting in bed and then let it run for an hour on a timer.
    >gorillamode sleepy pills
    derek makes good shit. theyre much better than just melatonin however kinda pricey. I dont take them unless i work the next day for tolerance reasons
    >no caffeine/food before bed
    I already dont drink caffeine really but not eating at least 3 hours before helps
    >avoiding your bed/screen
    do not get in your fricking bed unless you are going TO SLEEP. think of some non-screen shit you could do around the house for not even 30min before bed rather than final doomscrolls
    >knowing how to tell your brain to shut up/meditation
    im a chronic autism daydreamer and if im doing it in bed then my brain is having fun eatin good its not gonna sleep. tell it to shut the frick up and clear your head. meditation makes this 100x easier if youre good at it. simple muscle relaxing bodyscan to shut off ur muscles makes you sleepy.

    good luck

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >im a chronic autism daydreamer and if im doing it in bed then my brain is having fun eatin good its not gonna sleep. tell it to shut the frick up and clear your head
      Seconding this. In bed I literally have to tell my brain "this is sleep time, this isn't "extra" imagination time"

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Couldn’t be me, I’m on Atarax. Been falling asleep almost instantaneously since

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sun exposure is extremely important to regulate sleep. I also have a hard time falling asleep but whenever I spend all day outside moving around I fall asleep immediately.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have since I quit drinking a week ago, hopefully it will get better soon or I will end up murdering someone randomly. I sleep like 5 hours a night now, normal for me is 7.5

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome. It's not debilitating or anything. Basically, I can only fall asleep around 2AM. It's different for everyone, but your brain will not let you fall asleep a few hours later than normal people.

    It is often seen in people with ADHD. There's no real cure. It's not great. I go to the gym at night and work jobs where I can start a little later than the normal 9-5. I can't do morning workouts. Even if I wake up at 5AM each morning, I can only fall asleep around 2AM.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >adhd haver makes up more random bullshit
      tired of you guys

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >chronic sleep problems
    post your step count today

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Weed will be your best friend for sleep, if you let it.
    Started smoking before bed nearly 30 years ago, haven't had a tough night sleeping ever since.
    Hell, when I had some horrible upper respiratory infection as COVID started, I was ripping hits of shatter all night for 2 nights and still fell asleep easily because I figured, if I could already barely breathe, if I'm gonna go out, I may as well do it calmly and peacefully.
    Needless to say, I'm still here, and still getting high to sleep at night. Shit works 1000000x better than any other "help you sleep" supplement shit and costs less, too.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >weed
      >COVID
      >I can't breathe
      have a nice day redditgay

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