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Gout is a genetic disorder where your body cannot process uric acid effectively and the excess forms deposits around joints, usually big toe or ankles. When uric acid levels are too high tiny pieces of the deposit can break off and trigger massive inflammation and pain.

inb4 kings disease, gout can be aggravated by diet but not caused by it. If you're genetically predisposed you're gettin' it. I have two uncles with gout, one ate like shit his whole life and spent is last years in a wheelchair, the other is a long-distance runner.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it's caused by being a fat frick

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't eat plants, so gout is impossible. You should go carnivore.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      get better bait

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      purines are the main source of uric acid, and red meat is one of the main sources of purines

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        get better bait

        Literally only occurs in people who eat plants. Not joking.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I've been reading forums on gout and some people say carnivore helped with flares but i don't want to risk the heart disease and frankly i like vegetables

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That's a myth. There's carnivores who lowered their CAC, which is impossible without surgery otherwise. The exact opposite outcome that you're saying carnivore risks. It's not a silver bullet that will heal you overnight, the damage will remain for a bit, but you will heal.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I'm open minded about red meat and how the public may have potentially been misled about its deleterious effects, but folks are going to have to work very hard to prove to me that you can just shove whatever you want in your mouth and nothing bad will happen. It just seems like people leap too easily to opposite extremes. It was once thought saturated fat was "bad fat", now there's known to be vital to life so people leap to the extreme of "eat as much saturated fat as you want and nothing bad can possibly happen", it just doesn't seem reasonable. I've rarely known a time where moderation in all things was not the most sensible course of action.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            Literally only occurs in people who eat plants. Not joking.

            I don't eat plants, so gout is impossible. You should go carnivore.

            If you're worried about heart disease just make sure your triglycerides and LDL are in check. Don't eat seed oils.
            https://www.reddit.com/r/gout/comments/zjg322/gout_and_carnivore_or_keto/
            >I follow mostly carnivore. When I am strict I have no problems, but if I give into temptation and eat the sugary treats which are so prevalent this time of the year, I get tightness in my toes. I am on 100mg Allo. It works for me, but everyone is different and, as the other person said, talk to your doctor.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Oh and to expand from what I hear.
              Any alcohol with carnivore will flare up your gout.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's about the kidneys. They have to get rid of all kinds if shit including alcohol, uracic acid and insulin.
            Carnivore only "helps" with gout if you usually eat a shitty diet that bombs your kidneys with insulin. You replace the bigger problem for your kidneys (insulin) with a smaller problem (ua) and it's a net benefit. When you read the gout forums carnivore never actually healed anyone, they just experienced fewer flare ups. Obviously uracic acid will still be a problem for your body, the stories that it "gets used to it" are conplete bullshit.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Then what's your solution? What's going to bring the kidneys to normal?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It varies from person to person. Some people experience attacks almost immediately after consuming high-purine foods like shellfish, sausage, beer, etc. Other people can go long stretches of time eating poorly without any attacks and then suddenly it just happens. It's not uncommon to have gout that reoccurs just once a year, though it can increase in pain and location over time (the first attack is very often in the big toe, if corrective measures aren't taken later attacks might occur in the ankle, knee, hip, etc).

                The best and easiest thing you can do is stay well-hydrated and urinating frequently, after that comes pharmaceuticals that may or may not work for you. Allopurinolgay here, it's been a game changer, I pretty much stopped having attacks since I went on it except the one "guaranteed" one, which was bad (it's extremely common to have an immediate gout attack after beginning medication designed to stop gout attacks- fun!)

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh and for the record I eat burgers, chicken thigh, pork sausage and drink beer, and I still don't get attacks anymore on allo. I do love water though so I'm usually pretty well hydrated, almost never do soft drinks/sugary drinks, just water and tea/black coffee (rarely more than 0-1 cups a day, not for gout reasons though, I just decided early on I never wanted to develop a caffeine tolerance).

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you're fricking moronic, gout wasn't even known until richgays started eating too much meat and sugar. We've had centuries of farmers eating grain sludge and later potatoes and none of them developed gout.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > gout wasn't even known until richgays
            Do you even know what the average human being was eating before agriculture? They had a diet with much more meat than the rich often did after agriculture. However, we do not really know much of their medical conditions as there really isn't very much surviving evidence for many things in that era (a good part of what you hear is fantasy on the part of archeologists). So far, no skeletons with gout though there would likely never been found since the tissue of the joint capsule and related tissues from gout is much more prone to decomposition than the hard tissue.
            >centuries of farmers eating grain sludge and later potatoes and none of them developed gout.
            Prove it without a doubt that peasants didn't also develop symptoms of gout. Alcohol is also a risk factor of gout (commonly consumed in general). Being an older man, 30-50 years old, can also predispose you to gout symptoms (quite a few older peasants). Other medical conditions also cause these problems which likely would have been present in quite a few peasants--peasants were not immune to these other medical conditions.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              As per tacitus germans ate a shitload of venison and beer(not watered down he describes several day benders and alcohol induced rage). They were also illiterate simpletons who partook in dancing naked beta males sold as slaves and i domt even know what they used them for i guess they were picking the wheat for the beer thus completing the cycle.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                germans were tall and strong, nothing beta about them. frequently hired as bodyguards due to said qualities but couldn't organise hence their frequent whipping by the legions.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Do you even know what the average human being was eating before agriculture? They had a diet with much more meat than the rich often did after agriculture.
              lol

              Where did they get that meat from? Because it wasn't from hunting, which was frequently unsuccessful.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah omnivores have gout 24/7

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >there were no MRIs in 1000BC therefore cavemen had no cancer

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Strange strawman. Did the plant-based psychosis tell you to type that?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >canitard proceeds to deflect when faced with a proper argument (he never had any)

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >resorts to ad hom IMMEDIATELY instead of acknowledging he was wrong
                Of course

                >misuses term strawman
                >pivots
                >ad hominem
                >brings up plant based it of nowhere
                So this is the power of carnivore

                You could've just said "yes" instead of typing all of that shit.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >resorts to ad hom IMMEDIATELY instead of acknowledging he was wrong
              Of course

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >misuses term strawman
              >pivots
              >ad hominem
              >brings up plant based it of nowhere
              So this is the power of carnivore

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          who gives a frick if you're "joking?" we know that your moronation is sincere; you're shilling a meme diet for spastics.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What the frick is either of these gay ass words?

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    drink some water homie

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      a gallon a day or more bro

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not genetic.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They’ve always said not to eat things high in purines like organ meats red meat and certain fish. I had it first flare up 3 years ago then slightly again last year. I don’t eat foods high in purines drink a lot of water and yeah I know it’s genetic but I did notice the two times I got the flares up I had something with high fructose corn syrup in it. HFCS is wheat has caused a lot of health problems and I know since cutting it out I’ve had no flare ups. I actually have just reduced sugar/carbs but have still had organ meat and fish with no problems

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Just more anti meat fear-mongering.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Same
    Only it all deposits on my dick, ot swells up incredibly 🙁 and the only way to decompress it is with veganas.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    All the people I know who had flare ups were heavy beer drinkers and quite heavy people. Don't know what they ate though. Don't know if it's related to inflammation

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yeah beer is awful for it, that and organ meats are like the worst possible things

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Both my father and brother have it. My father was careless with his diet but brother was a lot more cautious. However, they both would have moments where they had really bad flare ups and had to be placed on medication (allopurinol).

    I think I dodged it though.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My kidneys are not top tier on either my moms or dads side, history of gout and kidney stones on both sides. Ive had 3 scares so far(pain in one day) and one real flare up. Also had a couple of kidney stones even though i drink 4-6l water each day. Ive noticed that some supplements like a special brand of magnesium/vit c/copper/zink makes me have real issues so i guess my kidneys are not performing at a good capacity. Reduced my meat and upped my lactose consumtion and seems to be working so far, knock on wood. Anyone have experience with medication? Side effects and soforth? Im not opposed it but if it kills my gains/testo i aint touching it.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Did somebody say gout?

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dave huges you disgusting stick insect.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What did the long distance runner eat? He might have eaten a shitty diet that caused his gout. Distance running has nothing to do with diet.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can get fricked with gout by bad genetics or unrelated kidney damage, but it represents such a small percentage of the total patients that it's not really worth addressing. I'm guessing the distance runner had long periods of dehydration which probably didn't help him.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My dad was hospitalised with gout last year. He literally only drinks beer

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >IST : Fighting on Internet Threads

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    moronic take Op. Gout has already been solved.
    Urine with ph of 7 will disolve thousands times more uric acis than withbph of 5. You can change the ph of your urine with acid. Just buy the paper for ph testing and see for yourself.
    In general, dairy, meat will decrease ph of urinw and will increase the amount of uric acid.
    Alkanizing foods lile lemon, acv, fruits, etc. Will increase ph of urine and your body will get rid of uric acids.
    It's that simple and proven to work by numerous studies.
    Of yea, for all the morons with "you can't change the ph of blood", well yea, you can't, but you can change ph of every other liquid in your body, including limpha and urine.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The only times in my life where gout has bothered me have been times when I had been drinking an unusually large amount of sugary drinks.
    No amount of red meat has ever done me wrong.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    TLDR coping fatass

    >stop drinking alcohol
    >Stop eating sneed oils
    >go meat only for a month

    If you cant do these 3 then you have no discipline and deserve to live with gout pain the rest of your life

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I had that several years ago due to a diet that was super heavy in processed meats. I changed it and lost 70lbs and no longer suffer from gout and haven't had a flare in 3 years, uric acid numbers and kidney function are as of last doctor's visit normal.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Actually no. It's caused by having too acidic blood, exacerbated by kidney dysfunction. Which CAN be caused by poor lifestyle/dietary habits (being fat). But it can also occur at any bodyweight/fitless level. I had my first gout attack in my 20s at my peak low bodyfat level. Didn't know what it was, thought I had accidentally kicked the wall in my sleep or something. If anyone's curious what a gout attack feels like, imagine if someone surgically inserted a glass bottle inside your foot, and then stomped on it.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My most recent attack was about 2 weeks AFTER I quit drinking entirely but ate a whole bag of peanut butter m&ms from a valentines day clearance sale. Ankle pain bad enough to be debilitating for almost a week, worse at night, then 2 days with low pain, then it moved to my fricking toe and got worse again. Currently on week 3 of not being able to walk normally, my foot just started fitting into my regular shoes again. Every day I way up with a new kind of soreness in my ankle or foot.

    I gave up red meat and shellfish years ago. Because of this flare I've completely quit drinking alcohol and eating refined sugar, eating totally vegetarian plus dairy. I really don't mind the diet change like I thought I would. No insurance so I can't get allopurinol. I've always been just short of obese BMI so I'm going to ride this down to a healthy weight then readjust.

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