I nominate the Aztecs. They were all trained for war, and their goal was not to kill their enemies but capture them to be sacrificed. There was scholarly pursuits and they had math, reading and writing. Even the Spartans didn’t hold a candle to the Aztecs.
Tie between the Mongols, the Huns, and the Gauls
The gauls were highly advanced, stratified, and had advanced arms, armour and metalworking skills. The romans had to steal half their designs to even be capable of fighting them. rome and gaul didn't even differ that much technologically
"I nominate the aztecs, the guys that got raped by Hernan Cortes"
Well said bro
Absolute fucking numbskull tier take what is this lmao? Why do fucking morons talk about history when they're dead wrong
Overemotional people are weak.
>he's still falling for the roman propaganda
lmao you had 2000 years to educate yourself
NTA but Vercingetorix lost, Julius Caesar mogged the Gauls to oblivion, get over it
>The romans had to steal half their designs to even be capable of fighting them.
The guals were fucking idiot cowards who let their old and young die of starvation rather than fight Caesar
remind me who won again
t. Vercengetorix
meme template if anyone wants.
can you make the victim not black so i can repost on twitter?
It doesn't look black, it looks like a volcano goblin
Funny, but that would literally take you 60 seconds to do in photoshop
moron why would it take you a minute to use the bucket tool a few times? You can do that shit in ms paint, you are retarded and ugly.
obviously ancient greece. think everything like spartans, olympians, philosophers talking about fitness etc.
That’s survivorship bias. Lots of different civilizations talked about that but not all of it was preserved and translated. They just copied the Bronze Age Mycenaeans, the true ancient Greeks. http://arthistoryresources.net/greek-art-archaeology-2016/mycenaean-sculpture.html
>Lots of different civilizations talked about that
>but not all of it was preserved and translated.
>They had it its just that it preserved and translated into a language I can actually read BUT THEY HAD IT
Inb4 reply just retype whatever you were trying to say retard
No. Lrn2read
>Lrn2read
Oh do you mean read the literature which was
>not all of it was preserved and translated
Is that the reading youre referring to here?
Spartans did not have a particularly interesting society. They just went all in on military and even then let themselves get hamstrung by helot revolts all the time.
>Who has the most IST history?
Atlanteans by far. They were so warmongering they temporarily awakened an eldritch being that sunk their continent.
i had a lego set by that name
>i had a lego set by that name
Are you on the spectrum?
Vikings maybe, they where at least fit enough to mog all of Europe.
Either way as a swede it makes me sad that we went from moging fagot mainlanders to a civilisation of protected trannies.
Vikangz raided a few shit huts and a church or too, not the entirety of Europe lmao
If you include the
They fucked up the
>brits (Danelaw)
>french (normady)
>Sicilians
>slavs (and they begged them to comeback)
>basically every coast in europe
Also basically any historical record about them harps on about what great warrior they where. And their later descendants still where pretty good warriors despite being DYEL gun users, lion of the north and all that.
Fair but then again we’re talking some newly settled half starved vikings that travels across the entire Atlantic vs Indians on their home terf. If the vikings had their full strength they’d easily mog them considering they raided and conquered far more technically advanced civilisation than the Indians.
*include the normans
Also pic related
You are a fucking moron, our ancestors colonized Britain and a part of France and NORSED them.
The American Indians mogged them. They had reached America long before Western Europe but they were too clean and didn’t have disease and their settlement was abandoned.
>Vikings maybe, they where at least fit enough to mog all of Europe.
You're American, aren't you? Sheesh.
He's... Swedish... He said so in his post. He said he was a swede...
Is your reading seriously that bad? Honestly don't know why you'd bother replying anyway, you just look absolutely retarded man get a grip
Achaemenid empire under Darius I
>farrokhs on IST
lol
You realize that's a painting... Right?
based on reality
sorry but your "ancestory" got btfod
-by other natives
It was more of a civil war uprising between native powers who wanted the Aztecs gone. Spanish unified them and came along for the ride.
You didn't even spell Primordial correctly you fucking retard. I don't even know why it made me mad but it does. Fix your meme and remake this thread right now OP. Fuck you
Obvious answers like Spartans aside, I'd say the Mongols. They basically spend their life on horseback and contrary to what people think, horseriding is a very physically demanding activity.
>Mongols
Their favorite pastime is throwing each other to the ground.
They live the fit life and mogged every culture reachable on horseback.
Spaniards conquered everywhere and let's not talk about last name percentage
How's that armada doing?
Spain
Mix anyone with iberian and see what comes out stronger
Iberians are the moron version of white peoples
>gets exterminated
>culture wipped off the face of the earth
>language completely forgotten
>nothing left of but rape babies and decayed stone
>mogging anyone
>moronworshipingasteroid.jpg
The Yamnaya
We don't talk about Hungary
>The Yamnaya
nice i live there
Scythians. They survived Ukraine winter with no clothes.
tier list:
>mongols, cavarly archers masters, unbeatable in open field
>anglo-saxons, the best foot archers that ever existed, conquered half the world
>Romans, manlets that made the longest living empire
>vikings, the best genetics a footman ever had
, manlets that made the longest living empire
, the best genetics a footman ever had
Average scandinavian height was 5'7. Average roman/mediterranean height was 5'5. 2 inches difference don't make you a manlet, and they certainly don't make you superior. Tired of this viking giant cope.
Can you name the tallest Viking ruler? I sure can't. Do you know how tall was a roman emperor? 8 feet tall.
Maximinus Thrax was 8 (EIGHT) feet fucking tall and fought in frontlines.
Thrax was a Thracian that got pushed into the army and ended up a short-lived emperor when he dabbed on some pathetic mommy-son emperor
, the best genetics a footman ever had
Weren't vikings really diverse because they took in p much anyone they could? Afaik it was more like a job to be a viking than something people were born into being
The Sea Peoples.
>show up out of nowhere
>destroy half the civilizations in the eastern Mediterranean
>refuse to elaborate
>leave
>""history is written by the victors""" kek
>doesnt write down shit
>just wanna mog
simple as
Kek cheeky bastards
>rapefugees
Just like today.
Kek
Yes basically
The Greeks. Have you fucked an ass today?
One interesting thing I heard a meso American historian once raise about the Aztecs that I thought was interesting. Basically everything we know about their history and culture are either things that the conquistadors observed directly, or clergymen documented later by asking survivors of the conquest what they remembered about the old days. So there's going to be a bias in what the interests were of the people doing the documenting. This historian raised a blindspot I hadn't considered. So the Aztec religion and culture was extremely fixated with blood, but we have absolutely no documentation of how they viewed menstruation. Because that's just something a 16th century monk interviewing a farmer just wouldn't really be interested in or ever think to ask about.
source?
What do you mean? Do you want some primary sources on the Aztecs?
The only evidence of torture and human sacrifice from the Aztecs, and other Native Americans, comes directly from their Spanish conquerors, who needed a reason to justify genociding them. Hmm....
>~~*Who*~~ writes history?
>6 million sacrificed humans
found the mexican
Mexicans are rape babies
>Look at this dagger! CLEARLY it was used to cage up children and slowly bleed them to death! Now let's burn their while city!
Good goy. Listen to those science-based historians.
We also have the knives and the bones and the carvings and paintings showing how to do it
What about Spanish allies like the Tlaxcalans, for centuries they haven't gone against the narrative
lmao. There are ancient documents portraying the sacrifices, piked walls with skulls on them and massive tombs with thousands of sacrificed skeletons just like both the spanish and mesoamericans said they would.
>t. Mexican
>There are documents explaining how the Nazis would force garden gnomes to kill themselves with elaborate contraptions
>There are piles of bone ash and mass graves, just like ~~*they*~~ said there would
Difference is that trying to dig around concentration camps will get you labelled as a nazi schizo and thrown into jail before you even start while mexicans are free to dig and take anything they find home.
It isn't rare for people at the capital to find aztec mass graves when digging for a new subway line.
I remember a pyramid of skulls with mortar on them very recently. Pretty interesting
Larp all you want, but whoever didn’t lose or get colonized/enslaved would clearly be the most IST.
Kind of narrows things down hmmm
No that's about who had the best logistics.
>purely logistical factors
Yes, they had drastically superior logistics.
That’s like saying the NBA All-Star team beat the intramural middle-school sped wheelchair division in a pick-up game purely because of better tactics and training.
Maybe rewind the clock and give the conquered peoples 200,000 years to evolve in a less habitable/more competitive environment with millennia of population bottlenecking. Then “logistics” can be argued properly in this context.
I think the term you're looking for is IQ not logistics.
Wrong. Cope.
europe is very rich on iron and the changing weathers force inventions and creativity. also there is an hypothesis that iq of individuals is higher in cold areas because infants cant develope their brain as well if their body is permanently busy eith cooling, as infants use 90% of their energy for brain development.
So no, its not purely logistical factors.
Take china for example, they skipped stone age, because they had bamboo and they directly went from bamboo to iron.
Saying its logistical factors is completely retarded as logistics is only easy if you copy a system, to be the first one with logistics as good as nobody else needs a creative genius.
its like saying amazon dominates the market because of their superior logistics. obviously yeah but why did nobody else come up with that logistic before? exactly, nobidy was capable of realizing something like that
Hyperboreans for an EZ Win. Mog every other ethnic or race.
Somebody post a hyperborean edit real quick.
Aztecs were just olden day city rats.
Unironically Sparta
>entire society revolved around creating super-soldiers
>babies judged as NGMI were left to die
>no money/economy; getting IST and wrecking other armies in battle was all that mattered
>philosophy? That shit's for those fags in Athens.
>were seen working out before battle
>stood up to the largest empire in the world at Thermopylae when hopelessly outnumbered; still talked shit the entire time
>death in war is the greatest achievable honor
>stood up to the largest empire in the world at Thermopylae when hopelessly outnumbered; still talked shit the entire time
Where were the Spartiates at the battle of Marathon?
religious festivals take precedence over helping Athenian fudge-packers win fights.
Sparta literally had pederasty built into their social organization just fyi.
Well of course, fucking women for purposes other than procreation is pretty fucking gay.
But they let their women run state and household affairs, Athenians did it best
they were very average soldiers
Macedonian bitches
Maybe the native Americans
Probably the garden gnomes
It's obviously the Proto-Indo-Europeans, and it's not even close.
>To be considered a man, you were exiled from your village as a teen to survive by stealing, hunting, and raiding other tribes.
>You had to raise a pet dog and then kill and eat it as a sacrifice to the gods, then wear it's skin around and larp as a werewolf.
>They completely conquered most of europe, the middle east, and india, many ancient scriptures reference them absolutely btfoing the natives.
>Had different words for wives taken from within the tribe vs ones captured in war.
>diet of meat and milk, the yamnaya branch were some of the tallest people of their era of history.
>the myth of zeus thunderbolt, thor's hammer, indras vajra, etc are all based off their stone war hammers.
Overall the most based men to ever live
Looks like mongols, Indians (America and from India), and Europeans all descended from this Y chromosome. Very interesting anon. Have any more info?
the only right answer, the rest is cope
literally any steppe nomad
No one's gonna read this but by definition a civilization can't be IST since this board demographic is entirely made up of social outcasts, incels and autists with nothing better to do than to pursue a selfish self fulfilling lifestyle. So the most IST civilization would be a hermit that lives by himself with his goats that despises women even though he has literally not had any human contact for 5 years.
>a hermit that lives by himself with his goats that despises women even though he has literally not had any human contact for 5 years
absolutely entirely undeniably based
>So the most IST civilization would be a hermit that lives by himself with his goats that despises women even though he has literally not had any human contact for 5 years.
>IST is Heidegger
>Most IST society is therefore Nazi Germany
Can't say i'm entirely shocked.
All nations have chads and gigabeta males. Defining one culture to be more fit than other is silly. Just see the romans, you see the examples of Maximus Alfimus on one hand, and Commodus on the other
Gigachad turks that entered Anatolia and wrecked everyones shit for almost a thousand years
Greekseethe is observable from orbit
Spartans, there's not even competition around it
their entire life purpose was to be shredded and keep wagies at bay
Aztecs we're manlets, they were big fish in a small pond of other manlets. Aztecs didn't move or conquer or weren't threatened enough to hold a candle to Spartans.
Samoans win
Cossacks?
you will burn in hell
Sparta. They concentrated entirely on physical and psychological training, dominated briefly and were then utterely fucking annihilated by the Thebans with superior military tactics as they'd spent too long ignoring intellectual progress and had basically become strong and fierce but retarded.
If that's not 90% of IST I don't know what is.
>Aztecs
>get annihilated by a few dozen drunken sailors
Their traditions include letting old judges/elders run things, not very vitalistic
The mongol empire you fucking assholes. They had some SERIOUS sex
Not all the aztecs were trained for war, they had a caste system no? iirc.
I nominate;
Akkadians, war religion, mogged ME.
Maori, all that rowing. Also anyone who rowed.
Romans, at least their military.
Greeks for the fitness culture and myths.
Mohicans were supposed to be warriors too iirc.
Practically any raider/nomad cultures.
>garden gnome
>Fit
Pick one you oxymoronic bastard
I'm gnomish