Who would win?

Who would win? Someone who never lifted but did MMA for 15 years OR someone who lifted during 15 years but never had any form of fighting experience?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    little monkey fella

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      it depends. people can be decently strong without lifting, and a 15 year mma professional definitely would be. but if you give the skills of a 15 year long mma pro to some random guy that can bench, say, less than a plate, and have him fight someone that can bench 500 pounds, the lifter will probably win. also it depends on how much of a difference there is too. if you use the examples in your image, regardless of the skill of the Big Guy, unless he's a literal moron, he would completely destroy the 5'10 guy, who i assume is a skilled professional

      i would bet eveything on the chimp, a human cannot beat a chimp

      The monkey wins against both

      the ape would destroy both so hard its not even funny. this is not even a debatable topic

      im pretty sure that chimp would tear the testicles off both men before they could land a strike

      why did none of you morons read the post

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >why did none of you morons read the post

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        i read the post but decided that monkeys are infinitely more interesting

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It says "who would win?" In the post title. Not reading anything else op wrote, and the monkey would kill them both

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        because you buried the lead, dumb dumb

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      there are no monkeys in that image

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Stop talking shite. Play a record

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Well no shit chimps have a bite force that is equal to that of a large bear.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    the fighter would destroy the lifter. It would be like fighting a child

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i would bet eveything on the chimp, a human cannot beat a chimp

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      the ape would destroy both so hard its not even funny. this is not even a debatable topic

      im pretty sure that chimp would tear the testicles off both men before they could land a strike

      Shaw could just sit on the chimp and it would be helpless.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        the money would just start biting into him and aggressively clawing at him until shaw would be forced to move and then the monkey would pounce and bite his face and hes dead. what now, powersharter?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          He'll move but the monkey will have a collapsed ribcage and two lungs that don't function anymore. Imagine a silverback jumping up and down on your ribcage. That's the size difference here.
          You can't beat someone who's 4 times your size, they're just gonna walk all over you.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            it's not someone it's a chimpanzee you can't lay on it it will jump on your face and rip your eyes out

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Are chimps good jumpers? I would have thought they would need to climb up you, or jump on you from above.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >it will jump on your face and rip your eyes out
              Everyone instinctually defends their face. Easier said than done.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Shaw would manhandle the fighter. And he would eventually beat the chimp after sustaining severe injuries in the process.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      i think a human can beat a chimp, I just dont think they can beat it and keep their genitalia or face skin still on.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Fair assessment. I'm on the human side and I agree.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        human cant win chimps are much stronger and have bigger teeth we are also smarter

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          > “we”

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous
  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The monkey wins against both

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    the ape would destroy both so hard its not even funny. this is not even a debatable topic

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    im pretty sure that chimp would tear the testicles off both men before they could land a strike

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    the fat one could choke the monkey to death if he gets lucky

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Brian Shaw can pick up a 100 pound blob
      He also used to have the world record keg throw, besides Hapfthor he is probably the strongest man ever
      He would rip that chimp limb from limb

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      YOU ARE FRICKING moronic.

      I WAS A ZOO KEEPER FOR A LONG TIME. THAT CHIMP WOULD FRICK UP ANY MAN TO THE POINT IT WOULD ALTER HIS LIFE FOR EVER.

      THE FIRST THING THEY RIP OFF IS YOUR GENITALS, THEN YOUR EYES AND THEN YOUR NOSE AND EARS ETC ETC UNTIL YOU ARE BLOODY PULP OF NOTHING.

      A CHIMP CAN ONE ARM LIFT A HUGE MAN NO PROBLEM AND I SAW IT WITH MY OWN EYES,

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        this guy knows what he's talking about,monkeys are far more feral than the strongest crackhead outthere,combined with there overwhelming quick reflexes,everything's all nice and good in a fight until you suddenly dont have your israeliteels anymore.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >overwhelming quick reflexes
          They have slower reflexes than humans and the intelligence/coordination of an actual moron.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            ok,are you willing to put this to the test and find out if you could outpace/outmaneuver your average chimp?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Is the discussion whether I could beat one or whether a trained fighter (heavyweight kickboxer for example) could?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                neither could. Chimpanzees are killing machines, you could take a roidmonkey heavyweight kickboxing champ like prime Overeem and he would fold after the chimp tears off their dick and balls and eats them in front of him.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                He would kill the chimp and tear its dick off. I don't get why you gays think a chimp is more aggressive than a human when our brain chemistry is almost identical and both would be fighting for their lives. The only real advantage the chimp has is its jaw.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                you're a moron if you think you can compare to the aggression of a wild animal, even if you were od'ing on meth like a german ww2 soldier all the fight will be taken out of you when the chimp uses it's herculean fast twitch monkey strength to rip off your dick with one yank.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I think I'd be more pissed and more willing to kill the chimp if it ripped my dick off, bozo.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I think you'd bleed out and die while screaming in agony.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You think no one has ever suffered a dick injury and won a fight? A ripped dick isn't the end of a fight. A 200lb man can literally lay a knee on a chimp and crush its ribcage or throat.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I'm sure they will lay there and let you put your knee on their neck til they can't sneed. Surely the chimpanzee won't just climb you and rip off and eat every part of your face.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The chimp has the strength of a 150lb man and 100lbs of weight. A 200lbs muay thai/kickboxer guy could fricking swat him off or break his bones with knees, elbows, hook punches, etc. As long as a fighter can prevent the chimp from getting to their vitals, the chimp will tire out far faster than a human due to memetwitch fibers.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                chimpanzees can weigh over 150 pounds and are 1.5 times a strong as a human, now imagine every muscle in that body clinging to your face. You are not swatting a chimpanzee, they will grab your face and you will not possibly be able to get them off while they rip and tear at every facial feature you have and soon won't.
                >it will just tire out faster
                You aren't having a striking match with a chimpanzee, you're not gonna wait til the later rounds for it to tire out, you will die.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >chimpanzees can weigh over 150 pounds
                Very unlikely, the average male chimp is like 88-130lbs. For the sake of the argument, are you using an average chimp or the strongest known chimp of all time? My point is an above average human has decent chances of winning against an average male chimp. And stop acting like the chimp will "just get to the face). Chimps are fast but not lightning fast, and they are aggressive but predictable (probably wouldn't know how to feint). A trained fighter knows to prioritize protecting the head.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Chimpanzees are between 3 feet 3 inches and 5 feet 6 inches (1 to 1.7 meters) tall when standing upright like a human. However, they mostly walk on all fours using their knuckles and feet. Males are slightly bigger than females. A male can weigh up to about 154 lbs. (70 kilograms) in the wild, compared with a maximum weight of about 110 lbs. (50 kg) for a female, according to the University of Michigan's Animal Diversity Web (ADW).
                You're not beating a 130 pound one either.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >the chimpanzee probably can't even feint

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                do you think the chimpanzee is going to let the kickboxer keep striking range? Do you kickbox? How are you going to throw strikes at something that smaller than you, still stronger than you, and crawling up your body.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                A hook can be thrown from point blank, knees can be thrown from very close range. Elbows can be thrown from point blank. Do you do any martial arts at all? A trained and strong fighter is not to be trifled with. Keep in mind that the chimp is still weaker than the human by virtue of being much smaller.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You’d break your hand on its skull and I don’t have any reference point for this but I imagine a chimp can take a punch judging off the shape of the skull

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                We've discussed this pretty thoroughly, the sides and top of a chimp skull aren't substantially stronger than a human skull. The front is. Hence I think a hook would have the same amount of knockout power on a chimp as on a human, even if you break your hand in the process.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                have you boxed? If you're gonna knock someone out with one hook you have to hit them on the chin. I don't think landing a hook on a quickly moving tiny chimpanzee chin is reliable.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                With a chimp, the jaw is far larger/reinforced and the placement of the neck makes rocking their head with a chin-shot harder. You're going to have a better chance concussing them with a hook to the temple than a cross, hook, or uppercut to the chin.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >How are you going to throw strikes at something that smaller than you, still stronger than you, and crawling up your body.
                It would be eating a couple knees and kicks to the head before it even gets to the body. Look at this.

                This is the knees and kicks of a well trained heavyweight.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                what a great gameplan. Maybe throw some jabs too to keep the range, the chimpanzee can't even feint so I can't see how you would lose.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Once it's on you I guess you'd have to try and crush it by slamming your weight on top of it.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >A 200lb man can literally lay a knee on a chimp and crush its ribcage or throat.
                Yes but he'll get sent to prison in Minnesota after

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            chimpanzees have double the fast twitch muscle fiber of humans and are built to rip and tear. You have the intelligence of an actual moron, sub-chimpanzee without a doubt.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Everyone knows Chimps are fricking killers m8. This midwit click b8 tier shit about "chimps akshually aren't cute and cuddly" was common knowledge years ago.

              Just because an animal is fricking dangerous doesn't mean that arguably the strongest human man ever wouldn't still kill him though.

              Having said that if I could ressurect some kind of mountain man like Liver Eating Johnson or something he'd probably have a better chance than even shaw against the chimp. I think it sort of takes a borderline deranged killer of a man who has escaped the bounds of humanity to fight wild animals and I'm not sure shaw has the sensibility for it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Like he did with Larry Wheels?

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Someone who never lifted but did MMA for 15 years OR someone who lifted during 15 years but never had any form of fighting experience?
    MMA easily. You can't win in a sport you didn't train for.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine if the monkey was trained in martial arts. It would be invincible.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      the chimp, and any other animal besides humans, are already at peak fighting abilities because they live through their instincts while human live through... something else. Animals are naturally at their peak fighting potential while humans need to develop this through training. It's like those animals who start walking right after they're born as opposite to humans who need months if not years to barely stand on our feet.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah that's it. There is a single professional fighter on this planet that has the natural reflexes and intuition for movement that, say, a tiger has. It's hardwired into their brains because they need it to survive. We've devoted more of our own brain to figuring stuff out and using tools, which is obviously far better in the big picture but sort of shit for combat

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I want a show where different animals get trained for a while and then they get to fight each other. We could even develop some weapons for them

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Chimps immediately go to tear off your dick and balls then twist and break all your fingers and toes and then only do they claw your face off. What do you think moron?
    I think I'd rather face a wolf than a monkey

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Dude. If chimps were everywhere and they had full freedom the way people do, we'd have a FRICKING SERIOUS PROBLEM. It would be chaaoosss, you wouldn't be able to leave your house. If there was as many chimps as there were people you would never be able to get to your car. They would mug you every chance they got. They would rip your fricking feet off, and frick your ass. If you don't think chimps will steal babies and eat them, you haven't been paying attention to the literature.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Have you tried DMT bro?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >invalidates your "baby-eating feet-ripping ass-raping monsters" with a single press of a trigger
      chimps could never into invention, they are nearly as bad as blacks

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        lol they literally tried killing travis the chimp and unloaded mags into him and he wouldn't stop. you would have ZERO chance against a chimp, with out without a gun.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Travis did stop attacking after getting shot, and ran away back home. And then he died. Any firearm will kill a chimp.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Oh no no, CCWsisters??????

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Brian Shaw
    I've seen him put some monkeys into their place a few times
    dude is a beast

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Larry wheels and his buddies doesnt count

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I can't believe he got away with it and managed to have it rug swept...
        Larry has returned from hiding in Dubai, what concessions do you think he had to make?

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >anyone implying holocaust Shaw would lose to a chimp
    you guys are sorely mistaken, that's buckbreaker shaw in his prime

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Shaw would rape everyone and you're moronic

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Chimps have a habit of biting things off. Fingers, lips, ears, peckers. Anything dangly. Unless they really pound it’s head things are gonna get fricked up quick. Any grappling or choking would probably be a bad idea. Best bet is if they are strong kickers they could bust it up good at the start.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    GSP fights at 195lbs

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Non human apes actually have a really big disadvantage in a fight that their center of gravity is too low to punch properly which is why they flail their arms in a fight

    Apes are vicious and rip and tear and shit, but i’m serious when i say that one proper punch to the head and it’s lights out for them since they’re not built for it

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >gets eyes, lips, nose, ears, balls, dick, fingers, and toes ripped off and eaten

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >be Gorilla
      >lift arm
      >center of mass follows arm
      >instantly kill human
      >be Chimp
      >eat human's face while he explains why you'd be bad in a fight because you can't punch
      you punch would do nothing to an ape

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The MMA guy

        You can knockout a chimp no problem

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >You can knockout a chimp no problem
          Not as easily as humans, their skulls are not as fragile

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >their skulls are not as fragile
            Where are you getting this figure? When I looked it up (like someone who is not moronic and parrots assumptions without question), I found that human and chimp skull thickness/density are within variation of each other.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              You're such a fricking idiot

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The cranial bones are about the same thickness, so if you hit a chimp with hooks and slamming punches from above, you'll do about the same amount of damage as you would to a human.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Apes literally have a massive bone ridge down in their head and armored eye socketd to counter getting knocked out you colossal fricking clown bozo.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                That's a gorilla. Granted chimp faces and jaws are reinforced, their upper cranium and sides aren't much stronger than a human's.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >You can knockout a chimp no problem
          >gets stabbed with a knife
          >gets hit with a shovel
          >just gets more pissed
          >also fat frick
          Chimp winz

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            travis was 80kg

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Nooooo, there is no chance in hell a healthy prime human with combat experience can even pose a threat to a chimp!!!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      not watching you are none of those things though

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Fake as shit story
      I punched a window and I still have scars from it, show me the chimp scars
      if she bite into the guy's arm them it should have scars from the bite

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah chimps are strong, but a difference of nearly 2 feet and 4 times it's fricking bodyweight is way too much for it to handle against Shaw. Dude could repeatedly smash it's fricking head into the ground with one arm. You guys really overestimate these dumbass monkeys.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Oh yeah b***h? hows about you fight a chimp?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not 6'8 and over 400 pounds, just a manlet.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Who would win, someone who trained for something or someone who didn't

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    A chimp is not nearly as large and strong as a full grown male human, not to mention one that trains.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Probably interesting to watch tbh.

    Fighter vs lifter would boil down to whether the lifter had enough agility to avoid the fighters strikes long enough to get ahold of them. With ground and pound even a dumbass could wreck the best trained fighter with 300 extra pounds. And this is coming from someone with 3+ years of grappling experience. But if the fighter is able to hit and run well enough, a lifters chin is just as strong as a non lifters (maybe a little stronger from neck muscles but not much). Tons of lifters have shit mobility from the inhuman amount of muscle around their joints, but some lifters regularly keep up flexibility.

    Monke is a meme. Bites are nice and all, but if someone really wanted to hurt the monke instead of trying to run away and getting scared of it, they could grab the fricker and slam it into the ground. They'd probably get some NASTY bites, but in the end the fighter or lifter would knock the monke out before ever bleeding out or anything like that.

    I hate that I'm so artistically interested in this shit, giving OPs stupid ass thread attention...

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Thor bjornsson has videos of him getting spanked in grappling matches.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I wish he would take BJJ for a few years and annihilate everyone.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Even a few years of training wouldn't give Hafthor the functional strength to beat BJJ champions.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          In an MMA fight he would win easily

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Nah. He would smash everyone. He is 6'7" and can deadlift 1,104lbs.
          Functional strength isn't real, it's the same as gym strength.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Starting on the ground in side control. What about an actual fight where he’s not being friendly?

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    dude just take the fricking L you are not beating a chimp

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >give monkey banana laced with tranqs
    >stab him in the neck

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Chimps are massively overrated as fighters

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      HOW SO FRICK FACE?

      THEY ARE NOT FIGHTERS AT ALL BUT WILL DEFEND THEMSELVES AND ONCE IN A WHILE GO APESHIT, NO PUN INTENDED, WHEN THEY ENGAGE IN TRIBAL WARFARE..OTHERWISE THEY ARE FAIRLY DOCILE UNLESS THEY SUFFER FROM SOME ILLNESS.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Bc chimps are weak, they are just mean. Nothing is stopping you from beinh just as mean. But you are bigger and stronger.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          That's my feeling yeah. Humans seems tame and pussy compared to chimps so that's why people think the chimp would win. But they don't take into account how humans behave in a life or death situation.
          There's stories of humans fighting off sharks. I'm sure a guy like Thor would demolish a chimp if he has to survive. He looks end up being injured for sure but would kill the chimp.

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    of course the wild animal will win, as they have no restraint and will go all-in and fight as if their life depended on it

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    A gorilla would beat all of them. Animals got training by sparring other animals.

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Shaw > Chimp > Twink

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Probably the black guy posted in your pic, has the feral experience fighting other predators

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Soiboys on this website seriously love sucking chimp wiener. Why would a tiny gay monkey beat Shaw or someone like me? I am literally stronger than a chimp there's no question about it, they are tiny.
    >muh they will rip your balls and face off
    Yeah and I'll rip its balls, face and head right off

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Daily reminder that UFC double champion and hall of famer BJ Penn got knocked out by some fat guy outside of a bar.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      anyone can get sucker punched... that proves nothing

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Sucker punched
        https://www.tmz.com/2019/08/28/bj-penn-bar-fight-hawaii-video/
        But I'm supposed to believe that these dudes could beat someone 250lbs heavier than them with superhuman strength? Speaking of sucker punches, Conor Mcgregor couldn't even knock out an old man on a barstool with a sucker punch. One/Bellator champ Ben Askren and UFC champion Tyron Woodley got knocked out by a Youtuber. Anderson Silva lost too. Obviously UFC guys can fight better than your average scrub but MMA isn't magic. Shaw would obviously ragdoll any non-heavyweight MMA fighter in a street fight. None of their training is designed to prepare them for a man who is 2.5x their weight and strength.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          This. But people still need their modern ninja myths. It is sacred to small children everywhere, they invincible little guy who through sheer secret technique wins alone. Underdog worship will not allow them to see. The shitty and moronic story of david and goliath is their divine parable of the distorted reality

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            you sound like a gay

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          no Black person they don't "just fight better than your average guy" you fricking moron
          These people are exeptional athletes and can seriously injure anyone that has no clue about fighting

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Thats why they have weight classes you aren't allowed to breach, right? Lmao

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              you're so dumb, weight classes make sense only if fighter have similar skills

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                How come similar skill fighters need to be the same weight as their opponent? I thought weight didn't matter, just technique?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                don't make them post the video of the mma enthousiast murdering the bodybuilder with street fight experience

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >The two men are not that far off from each other in size. Similar height, maybe 50lbs difference.
                >It still takes a few minutes of fighting for the MMA guy to knock out the bodybuilder
                >Bodybuilder at one point has the MMA guy in a headlock.
                Yeah exactly. Now imagine the same scenario but the bodybuilder is maybe 200lbs heavier and trained to to be strong as frick at the highest levels (as opposed to just looking good).

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Yeah exactly. Now imagine the same scenario but the bodybuilder is maybe 200lbs heavier and trained to to be strong as frick at the highest levels (as opposed to just looking good).

                HE WOULD BE HUFFING FOR AIR QUICKER.

                OMG !!!! HE HAD HIM IN A HEAD LOCK..THE HORROR...YOU GUYS ARE ALL FAT AND UNTRAINED HUH?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >These people are exeptional athletes and can seriously injure anyone that has no clue about fighting
            Yeah like that elderly man Conor McGregor punched and failed to knock off a barstool? Real life isn't anime. Brian Shaw is also an exceptional athlete. 250lbs isn't a small difference. Grappling someone roughly your size in training is not going to be similar to grappling a guy who's a fricking giant you can't move or physically manipulate in any way.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              thar's literally what grappling was made for lmao

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            you're so dumb, weight classes make sense only if fighter have similar skills

            >These people are exeptional athletes and can seriously injure anyone that has no clue about fighting
            Yeah like that elderly man Conor McGregor punched and failed to knock off a barstool? Real life isn't anime. Brian Shaw is also an exceptional athlete. 250lbs isn't a small difference. Grappling someone roughly your size in training is not going to be similar to grappling a guy who's a fricking giant you can't move or physically manipulate in any way.

            Thats why they have weight classes you aren't allowed to breach, right? Lmao

            How come similar skill fighters need to be the same weight as their opponent? I thought weight didn't matter, just technique?

            since you homosexuals are so obsessed with the "skinny guy vs brian shaw" thing there is literally a video of this

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              MMA fighter admits the truth at 11:25. The argument is over.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >t. doesnt know jack shit about ground game
                this assumes he actually manages to take him down and get in such a dominant position. he literally let him in one of the best positions to be in before starting

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >this assumes he actually manages to take him down and get in such a dominant position
                Which he would because he's fricking 425lbs of muscle

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                best way to submit someone that big is the choke from the back

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >https://www.tmz.com/2019/08/28/bj-penn-bar-fight-hawaii-video/

          This. But people still need their modern ninja myths. It is sacred to small children everywhere, they invincible little guy who through sheer secret technique wins alone. Underdog worship will not allow them to see. The shitty and moronic story of david and goliath is their divine parable of the distorted reality

          BJ PENN. SOBER , WOULD KILL YOU. END OF STORY. CASE CLOSED..AND THAT HIM BEING CLOSE TO 50.

          HE WAS DRUNK AND ON A BENDER. HE ON THE WAGON NOW AND WILL ACCEPT ANY CHALLENGE AT HIS DOJO...I DARE YOU TO GO THEIR AND FIGHT HIM SOBER AND SEE HOW THAT GOES FAT FRICK...

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      ALSO A REMINDER, THIS WAS AFTER BEING DRUNK AND ON METH FOR THREE DAYS STRAIGHT AND ALSO HAVING PISS AND SHIT IN HIS PANTS BECAUSE HE WAS SO FRICKED UP.

      HE INVITED THE MAN TO FIGHT ONE ON ONE, SOBER...MAN LEFT THE ISLAND. HE'S NOT BACK BECAUSE BJ WOULD MAIM HIM PERMANENTLY.

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Dude got humiliated for 10 minutes, an actual fighter can do literally whatever he wants to him.

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    But the got up, 2 times, you would propably not.

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Brian Shaw has a bigger chance of fighting the monkey off if it came down to it. But neither of them would be wise to go anywhere near it. They don't want that smoke.

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Monkey

    [...]

    >BigGuy in that order
    But I bet prime out no-testicle no-eyes no-nose Minowaman will find a way to make the monkey tap out of the fight. He's the coolest 🙂

    ?t=185

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, I say it depends on the relative weight and height of both. If the lifter utterly mogs the fighter by 6 inches and weights a good 80 pounds more, then it doesn’t matter how good you are at putting somone in an arm bar. You’re gonna get manhandled and thrown down hard AF. Now, if they’re around the same height and the lifter only has 10-20 pounds more in mass, then yeah my money is on the fighter.

    Unless you’re just wienery and stupid, even good fighters know when to not pick a fight with someone. Knowing how to fight doesn’t automatically mean you’ll win every fight against people who have no fight training.

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Guize I'm a super skilled MMA man but my opponent is 2lb heavier than me BAN HIM ITS NOT FAIR WAWAWAWAWA :''''''(

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >super skilled mma fighter
      >against super skilled mma fighter, 10 lbs heavier
      ofc that makes a difference moron. imagine if they got a skinny manlet like dj or cejudo to fight a random tub of lard off the street. it would probably be fun to watch but still onesided. its better to see a fight on similar skill levels with no weight difference to actually determine who is more talented

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        IT WOULD GO EXACTLY LIKE THIS. BUT PROBABLY WORSE:

        https://www.tmz.com/2010/08/04/ufc-president-dana-white-roger-huerta-street-fight-parking-lot-brawl-video-statement/

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Assuming that both are the same height and begin at the same weight - the MMA guy. The MMA guy is still going to gain plenty of muscle weight (the lifter will obviously gain a lot more) and have significantly better cardio than the lifter.

    But the most important thing here is that you've said the lifter has NEVER had any form of fighting experience. This means the lifter probably can't even throw an actual punch. Shit, he might even put his thumb inside his fist. If he DOES somehow connect a punch, it'll hurt significantly less than the MMA guy's punch (proper technique will give HUGE punch gains)

    Either way they'll both lose to the guy who spends 2 hours buying a gun and getting a very basic course on how to use it.

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I love DEX vs STR threads

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Chimpanzee wins.

  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    André would destroy the chimp though

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      EXCEPT ANDRE GOT FRICKED UP BY STU HARTS BLACK BEAR IN CALGARY..NICE TRY THOUGH....

  43. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Chimps are smaller but can pull your arm right off you. The chimp would win.

  44. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Thats like asking "who would bench more, a bodybuilder or a swimmer"

  45. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Chimps, like many animals, have a massive massive amount of glucose transporters in their muscle tissue relative to humans, which gives them an enormous strength advantage. Pound for pound, their muscle tissue is terrifyingly stronger than humans, and that ape can literally rip your face off with just its hands, or smash your skull in. Humans evolved to have most of our glucose transporters in the brain so to allow for higher intelligence... it's an evolutionary metabolic tradeoff of where to devote limited bodily resources

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Chimps are stronger pound for pound, but significantly weaker overall since they are way smaller than humans.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yes

        Chimps, like many animals, have a massive massive amount of glucose transporters in their muscle tissue relative to humans, which gives them an enormous strength advantage. Pound for pound, their muscle tissue is terrifyingly stronger than humans, and that ape can literally rip your face off with just its hands, or smash your skull in. Humans evolved to have most of our glucose transporters in the brain so to allow for higher intelligence... it's an evolutionary metabolic tradeoff of where to devote limited bodily resources

        No. Chimps have a strength advantage per pound of muscles on humans because of their nervous system. Your muscle fibers individually are attached to nerves. A nerve may attach to several muscle fibers. When a nerve attaches to many muscle fibers, it's called a large motor unit. So when the nerve fires for the large motor unit, a large number of muscle fibers contract at once for a large amount of strength. The other type of motor unit is a small motor unit that is only attached to a few different muscle fibers. This allows for the fine control of appendages and a fairly precise control of limbs. The amount of small motor units an animal has correlated to the amount of grey matter in their brain. Chimps have very low grey matter and likewise primarily have large motor units. This allows them to easily use a large amount of strength in a single motion. Whereas human beings have much more small motor units; so human beings can learn how to do fairly precise tasks like making tools, performing surgery, or playing a musical instrument. But he cannot use all his strength at once. In order to use more of his muscle in a motion, he has to shock his nervous system into learning how to use more small motor units in a single task. This is why maxing regularly is essential for power lifting in particular.

        Glucose transporters are not the answer to why since both chimps and humans alike get energy during prolonged exercise first from their glycogen stores in their muscles. After which, the body uses free glucose in the blood or tries to convert fat into glucose. The glucose transporters only come in to play when accounting for low body fat.

        Likewise, the muscle fibers of a chimp are no different from a human in structure so their structure does not come into play. The idea of "fast twitch" v. "slow twitch" is a misnomer because the only real difference is the size of the motor units in general.

  46. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    100 pounds is small for a chimp so I could see the strongman winning. Besides, Brian Shaw has an experience advantage, because he kills chimps every day as a hobby if you catch my drift

  47. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    the chimp would win and that is actual science

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      do you think the chimpanzee is going to let the kickboxer keep striking range? Do you kickbox? How are you going to throw strikes at something that smaller than you, still stronger than you, and crawling up your body.

      Chimps, like many animals, have a massive massive amount of glucose transporters in their muscle tissue relative to humans, which gives them an enormous strength advantage. Pound for pound, their muscle tissue is terrifyingly stronger than humans, and that ape can literally rip your face off with just its hands, or smash your skull in. Humans evolved to have most of our glucose transporters in the brain so to allow for higher intelligence... it's an evolutionary metabolic tradeoff of where to devote limited bodily resources

      Chimps are NOT stronger than TRAINED HUMANS.
      Any study with SANE METHODOLOGY shows this.
      CHIMPS CANNOT LIFT 1/2/3/4
      HOW MANY THREADS ON THIS DOES IT TAKE FOR YOU STUPID Black folk TO UNDERSTAND THIS

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I live inside your walls! 🙂

  48. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    someone's gonna settle this argument irl one day and I cant wait to hopefully see it.

  49. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    A healthy male chimp will always win simply due to aggression and sheer twitch muscle force.
    There's no contest. It's just that it has no inhibitions. No human is ready to face that sort of rage.

  50. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    it's kind of pathetic that even the strongest most manly men of mankind can't even take down a little tiny chimplet. To put things in perspective, pic rel would fricking annihilate an entire pack of alpha male chimps and it would be easy. Humans are insanely weak compared to animals. It's fricking pathetic, really. If we were not that smart we would get purged from the food chain. Literally all we got is our mind.

  51. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >NOOO THE HECKIN CHIMPERINOS HAVE LITERAL SUPERSTRENGTH I KNOW BECAUSE I HEARD IT ON THE JRE
    >EIGHT. TIMES. STRONGER.
    You homosexuals will never accept the mma>chimps truth no matter how hard you get BTFO
    Chimp strength = meme
    Chimp mauling examples = meme
    Chimp dick ripping = meme
    Biting is literally their only advantage which is totally negated by their huge striking disadvantage
    Joe rogan really has ruined an entire generations conception of animal strength.
    One day I'm going to beat up a chimp and make it look easy.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >goes to one bjj trial class
      >thinks he can fight a chimpanzee
      you should test this out, get someone to film it

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Akchually I think grappling is the worst strat

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I feel very confident in my abilities to sumi gaeshi a chimp and take mount if I fought one, not sure if it would just rip my head off from bottom or bite halfway through my neck after that though.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This. I would argue a chimp is about as dangerous as a 150lb muscular untrained man with a shitty shiv. Lethal to most people, but not invulnerable.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Lol ure moronic ive used a knofe in self defense before. If the guys not moronic hes just going to pull the knife in and out continuously. There's no defense against it granted the person is actually trying to kill you and not just holding you up or raping you at knifepoint or whatever

        It isn't like the movies with the turn a key or whatever dumb stupid shit or leave it in its in amd out in and out

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, that's my point. The approach to fighting a guy with a knife is to maintain distance from the knife arm and smash them as hard and fast as you can. The same would go for fighting a chimp, you have to do your best to avoid getting the jaw near your vitals.

  52. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Someone needs to give 1 million to a pro mma fighter to go in the cage with a chimp. Everyone would want to see it. Even those who say it's animal cruelty. Anyways the chimp will come out victorious unless the fight is rigged and they drug the chimp before hand. In a real fight the chimp will win. It would just be great seeing how it goes.
    All profits could go to a chimp protection organization so sjws don't seethe.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Well some fat Hispanic did wrestle a muzzled chimp at one point:

      Vid is pretty sad tbh. But the main takeaway from when they did engage was that there wasnt some insane noticable wrestling advantage for the chimp - altho it does land an extremely kino dropkick towards the end.

      Obviously it's jaws are a chimps main advantage.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        that's not even a ape out he just wanted the fat mexican to frick off

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Based, you must have huge balls to try this. After watching this video I'm convinced that even Joe Rogan could take down a chimp with one of his legendary kicks. One kick to the face of the chimp and it's over. I think it's fair to assume someone with a good kick game (even better if they are tall and have longer reach) have insane advantage against a chimp. I think a lanklet with a great kick game has better advantage than say brian shaw who would get 100% fricked by trying to wrestle the monke.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >muzzled
          >small
          >not even angry
          humans can't possibly think that they have a chance in a fight to death, you guys are delusional

  53. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Some Saudi prince just needs to pay some half decent roided up middleweight or higher 50mil to fight a chimp to death.
    Put it on ppv.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Wait... who wins if both of them die?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        draw

  54. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Chimpgays need to be reminded that man, not beast, was made in the image of god.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Chimpgays
      I call them chimp simps

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      you wouldn't fight one though

  55. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/mma-enthusiast-fights-powerlifter-on-street-kills-him

    Some powerlifter fought a much smaller mma fighter and got killed

  56. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Either give the humans daggers or muzzle the chimp.

    Those horrific chump attack stories you hear are from chimps using their great strength to pin a human in place but then using canine and molars to grind and rip up the human..take away the chimps weapons and you've got a creature with about 1.5 times the strength of a strong man.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >got a creature with about 1.5 times the strength of a strong man.
      No, it's 1.5 times the strength of a manlet of equivalent weight, so a regular weight lean muscle man (~150-170lbs)

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      1.5x the strength of a 45kg man, which isnt more than an average man. Whats dangerous is their teeth and bite strength, viciousness and very strong fingers.

  57. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Chimps look like this natty and just by eating oranges and leaves and doing calisthenics

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
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        Anonymous
  58. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Disingenuous gay argument. Using a 7 foot strongman to insinuate that a lifter beats a fighter. 99.999999% of the time the person who trains to fight wins.

    The person who only lifts needs a *massive* size advantage to have a chance.

  59. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Brian "The Ten Ton Terror of Tel Aviv" Shoah would win handily
    Remember that WSM they had in Africa? There's a reason the competition never went back, the UN wouldn't allow it after the level of buck breaking that took place that week.

  60. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    That vid of Mcgregor and the mountain exposed power lifters.
    >hurr durr if he got his hands on him he'd kill Mcgregor
    Conor just bounced around him for 45 seconds and Halfbor was completely gassed, done.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      He wasn't even using 10% of his power.

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