Don't they realize that going extended periods without food (specifically protein) is catabolic to muscle?
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Don't they realize that going extended periods without food (specifically protein) is catabolic to muscle?
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Isn't this the keto guy who ate sticks of butter everyday because "carbs make you fat"? I wonder how his weight loss journey is coming along.
exactly like you would think it was, kek
>I go on camera everyday and show parts of my body
yeah you go ahead and not my guy
Can you maintain that body if you go to prison for years for statutory rape? (He was booked for it recently.)
They sell goyslop at the commissary
>icebath and cold showers
Again, these fat slobs will do anything, ANYTHING, other than just eating less
its not eating but exercise.
poorly – here's a recent photo of him
He somehow (despite being obese, disgusting, and creepy) groomed an underage *girl* (most people thought he was a closeted gay) rather than using outright force, as you might otherwise have suspected.
Keto looks like a great bulk
they don't workout or have excess muscles so catabolism doesn't matter to them.
Also they fasting as an excus to eat pig food during their feeding windows.
I've seen post where they'd do OMAD then eat a big as McDonald meal
This stupid frog comic has no right being so funny.
Not sure. I'm a former fat ass, but thin/in pretty good shape now.
I tried it myself, but it wasn't really beneficial for me personally. All it came down to for me was cico, thats it and I hated missing breakfast in the morning, always put me in a bad mood. A lot of fatsos I've seen use it as a reason to eat bad shit.
Cause they think eating = bad and not eating = good rather than eating right
Reminder that intermittent fasting, keto, paleo,t etc is associated with the alt-right fascism movement, especially if combined with weightlifting and self-improvement. A carnivore diet is cruel, unethical, and not environmentally sustainable and carbon emissions from cows are responsible for global warming. IDW and jordan peterson fanboys are all on similar diets and as such fasting is highly correlated with transphobia, homophobia, xenophobia, and racism. Phrases like "stop eating carbs" and "clean your room" is a dogwhistle for transphobic chuds.
and?
IST is an lgbtq friendly board
Let's change that.
Rare pepe, saved
Omg she is literally me
RAPE
God, it's not even fricking flattering. It just looks odd because it's not how things are supposed to be.
how do men with this bodytype even exist? Not that I'd ever want to but I could be 18BMI and not lift at all just look like a hairy stick. HRT is a hell of a drug.
I'm an unironic communist that does IF during cuts and have been lifting for 6 years.
>if
>fasting
not eating for a few hours during the day isnt fasting, israelite loving scum. i dont care if its called fasting
>israelite loving
Nah, I want Israel to burn in hell. Also my family were anti semitic bolsheviks.
>not fasting
Not eating for 20 hours isn't a fast? Damn, you learn something new everyday.
even when you're not eating you're still digesting your last meal for several hours
Lol You truly believe that you're digesting meals for 20 hours after the fact?
>anti semitic bolsheviks
lol
lmao
NTA but there were a LOT of anti-semitic bolsheviks
enough that Lenin had to regularly encourage israelites that they weren't anti-semitic almost every chance he got. israelites still got fricked on anyways on Lenin's policies because he created laws preventing them from being trades people or craftsmen, and then later Stalin had them put into a fricking containment zone.
communists essentially stole israelite money then put them into a box.
>NTA but there were a LOT of anti-semitic bolsheviks
True, to some degree.
One of Stalin's few redeeming qualities was his purging of people like Zinoviev and Kamenev
It's called self-hating israelites, anon.
Bro don’t try. Fit is fully corp pozzed and the worst read board on IST. You’ll only get recycled right wing propaganda masquerading as thought
Oh maybe you should fricking kys
>anti-semitic bolsheviks
just shut up moron
I don't care what blacks and homos think so I don't see this as a negative.
checky basey
>carnivore diet is cruel
you are just a useful idiot for the elite. People like you are going to lead us to a "Soilent-Green" tier future where all the good goyim are crammed into the city eating shit and the israeli ranchers own all the land eating steaks every night.
onions green albeit
onionsgreen albeit
troony detected
I have seen this kind of post where somebody larps so hard as to be comedic on every single board at this point.
Usually the tell is "chud" because this word seems to exist entirely on IST
Wtf I love meme diets now
its a way for them to feel like they are "trying" without putting actual effort because they still eat like shit with refined sugars and other goy slop during their windows instead of a guideline CICO like their skinnier counterparts
Can't they still eat like that with CICO?
Not the point.
>fat people fasting
But they don't.
Fat people are far more likely to put all their effort into doing more exercise. Which usually consists of walking a mile.
Most fatties wouldn't miss a meal never mind a whole day of not eating
Nah, a lot of fat people are into fasting. Especially OMAD, because they sit down with one gigantic meal, or fast food. They feel like they can be "allowed" to eat like that if they only eat once a day.
skim reddit for 5 minutes and you'll see how common it is, along with complaints of not losing weight.
Fat people don't realize that the only reason they can get away with these diet memes is that they're *fat*, and they barely get any exercise, so they have more than enough stored energy in their hamfolds to cost on for hours or even days at a time.
> Fat people don't realize that the only reason they can fast is because they're just living off their body fat when they do it.
Did your mother have any kids that lived?
did your father not beat the fricking shit out of you when you talk stupid shit?
>Don't they realize...
No OP, people obsessed with meme diets are stuck in what psychologists call "Black and White thinking".
Because fat people who aren't ready to make changes want a gimmick to fool themselves. Simple as.
Former fatty, now full shitlord. I actually don't mind IF, I maintain a 6/18 just because that's when I'm hungry. I don't plan my schedule around it, though. But honestly, this is a fast in name only.
I do an extended fast (72-96) hours a few times a year or so, not for weight control, but whenever I just feel like I need to reset shit. After the first day or so, it's a pretty good feeling. There is some evidence of HGH and other hormonal benefits.
tl;dr for those on their way or already fit, fasting schemes may have some benefit, for fatties looking for easy outs, they are pure gimmick
Link studies that support your claim or rope
>intermittent fasting
>extended periods
IF is literally just a normal eating schedule where you aren't stuffing your maw before bed
how long does the average person spend putting food in their mouths each day?
let's be generous and say 20 minutes per meal, plus a handful of snacks between
that's not even 2 hours, so aren't most people doing 2:22 days without realising it?
no. if you eat once until satiety, you end up eating less than if you eat 20 times but never feel full and constantly want more.
but as I said, I personally think this is mostly a matter of getting rid of shitty habits rather than some low level physiological thing - based on my personal experience anyway
>how long does the average person spend putting food in their mouths each day?
Way more than you would expect anon. Way more than you would expect.
No. Most people eat by a 10:14 schedule. They're not eating a bunch of food in only 2 hours and stopping there, like you're suggesting. They're eating a lot of food over a 10 hour period. Your argument is very poorly thought out.
Have there even been any solid studies done on IF? Everyone always claims some wild bullshit about it, but almost nobody has any way of backing it up and its getting more and more wild and mystical sounding as the years go on.
I do IF but I don't believe it does anything other than make sticking to whatever diet you have, easier. You basically train your body to not get hungry outside of the eating window so less risk of overeating. I still do CICO to control my weight.
Yeah, the window of eating making it easier to control possible overeating makes total sense.
But I see shit like "my insulin levels are super low!" or "my bf% has gone done 5% in 2 months!!" or "bro fasting spiked my HGH I'm shredded as fuarrk" but next to nothing to back any of it up. Seems like most of the shit people claim is placebo/assumption.
>"my insulin levels are super low!"
well, your insuling does go down within a dozen or so hours after eating so in a sense it's correct. insulin spiking can also make you less sensitive to food and therefore also induce overeating, from what I've heard. but I'm not sure how big of a deal this is, IMO it's mainly psychological/neurological, your brain stops sending pangs of hunger in the morning or in the evening. and you get rid of nightly snacking habits
Yeah, makes sense. I've had fat family members treating it like its a miracle cure, but in reality its mostly a method to reform eating habits it seems, which is what I personally recommend it as. I don't think its triggering significant physical changes in the body at all on its own.
There have been and they found that it's not that different from just CICO.
>Why are fat people obsessed with
Because if there isn't some big secret to losing weight, some arcane knowledge hidden from the general public, that just means that they're fat because they're stupid and / or can't control themselves. Because it really can't be as simple as eating less, that would mean that they're idiots for getting fat and total losers for being unable to do anything about it. There has to be some holy grail of weight loss, because if there isn't they're just fat sacks of shit.
In short: it's cope.
Doesn't not eating take control though?
If you read between the lines, fat people are always looking for some cheat code to eat as much as they want and that's why they're always fatasses.
>keto: I can eat infinite calories bro!!! *drinks bacon grease*
>omad: big fricking meal once a day then coffee for the rest!
>real fasting: looking forward to that cheat meal tomorrow!
>>omad: big fricking meal once a day then coffee for the rest!
What's funny about this is healthy food is nowhere near calorically dense enough for even someone like me (140 lbs., 5'9") to get enough calories and meet my protein requirements in one sitting.
I eat three "big meals" daily, but because they're heavy on lean protein and vegetables, with fruit for desert, they usually come out to only 600-900 calories.
I shudder to imagine what the average obese OMADer's one meal looks like.
Probably 5000 calories of goyslop.
I ate nutella on 4 slices of toast for breakfast, 3 kfc chicken thighs and zinga burger and fries for lunch, and lasagne for dinner, could you?
Reminds me of the episode of Danberu where Hibiki is eating over 2000 calories for lunch and her friends call it a sumo diet.
Iam obese and have been doing OMAD since mid july and lost 31 pounds. Pic is only thing I eat in a day plus protein shake.
good job breaking the goyslop addiction anon
Good on you, Anon. Proud of you!
In my experience only eternal fat fricks are obsessed with meme diets. They're not interested in actually losing fat, they're just interested in coping with their eating disorder.
To actually lose fat, it's simple :
>Find out the shit that makes you hungry/overeat etc and don't buy it anymore
>Don't eat the obvious fast/processed food and sweets garbage
>Just eat whatever the frick you like otherwise.
>Stay in your macros, don't eat too many calories and try to get enough protein.
>Lift weights
that's it. it doesn't fricking matter when you eat or if you fast or not or whatever
Yeah it feels like these meme diets are all putting the cart before the horse. They just need to practice the very basics. Stop eating junk food, stop eating fast food, and make your own meals. Eat 3 times a day, breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and try to eat mainly meat, fruit, veggies, and some rice/potatoes. Work out 3-4x a week for 30-45 min. That's it. Doing that will do wonders alone, and you can adjust things as you get in better and better shape.
they cant stand just eating less
It’s faster and easier than maintaining a low level of hunger for several weeks/months. You can fast for two days and lose more fat than you would on a 500cal deficit for a week. On your off days, eating a small meal satiates your hunger. There’s really no downsides to fasting other than the willpower it takes the first couple times you do it.
Fatsos finally realized they just need to stop eating and that's a good thing
>Why are food addicts obsessed with food?
I don’t know, this is tough mind problem?
>catabolic to muscle
>People back in the stone ages mainly lived off of the occasional big game and sporadic berries
>Between those meals they fasted
>They need muscle to hunt food
>Somehow prolonged times of not eating is (mainly) catabolic to muscle
Each and every human with the priority first set on the muscle to metabolize into energy would die off pretty quick. They probably have.
Either the logic you are using is flawed or you put focus on the wrong aspect of this.
38 yrs old, skinnyfat 25 % bf.
Abs visible when flexing.
I have been doing OMAD since 8 days.
Started with skipping breakfast.
My belt is in its last hole since yesterday.
Never been there before.
I now only eat dinner after working out.
My daily meal is 33% of each lentils, parboiled rice and different vegetables.
Even lifted yesterday and did 2 hrs cardio biking today.
Ofc this can't go on forever, r-right?
Idc if lifts stall, as Long as i dont get weak (catabol)
Just want a better physique and endurance.
You'll probably stall eventually, but as long as you're feeling healthy I don't see why you should worry.
>25 % bf.
>Abs visible when flexing.
are you moronic?
Some people mistake rolls for abs.
>catabolic to muscle
you're a moron, bro. fasting is fricking miracle tier. don't you know that our lord and savior, jesus cristo, walked through the desert on a horse with no name for thirty days and thirty nights and mogged satan on his refeed?
they tend to focus outwards on the science and methodology of weight loss instead of looking at the shitty habits that made them fat in the first place. It's easier to read about some meme diet online than it is to notice something that you've been doing for years on end that's become an involuntary part of your subconscious
At my heaviest I was 360lbs (now 220 @6"5) so I suspect I can shed some light on the mind of a landwhale.
Often, the landwhale will get the urge to fix themselves, as you would expect. A relatively healthy person can get a burst of motivation to improve themselves, and push with exercise, and usually fall off in a few weeks. Fatties really can't do the exercise to the same degree without injury, believe me, I tried. They have that same level of temporary drive though, what's that leave? Diet. Omad, if, keto, fasting, to someone addicted to food these are as hard as an hour run followed by 20 minutes ladder springs are to a normal person, and have about the same fall off period
The difference is, if someone wants to get lean in a month or two and is fairly close, they can. Fatties, no matter what they do, cannot go from obese to lean in that time, so when they realize this, they fall off
TL;DR: fatties like everyone want fast results, but because of their general health level go for extreme diet not extreme exercise
Fatty here (5'11, 198lb), have been doing OMAD for a week and already seen changes, down from 201 and sides around belly feel slimmer. Still work to do, but this isn't just cope, I'm seeing results.
My uncle was kidnapped and didn't eat for 3 weeks. He lost around 15kg
It just werks
That’s actually intriguing af
Story?
Such is life in Brazil.
I'm Nigerian actually
A few years ago kidnappers raided my uncle's house in the night, took him and stole a bunch of his stuff (they left his wife and kids though)
They knew my dad would pay ransom bc he's rich, plus decades ago bandits killed HIS uncle because he didn't pay ransom on time
Anyway he was obese so while they held him they didn't give him any food (they called him abuba - fatty) and beat him a lot bc he always insulted them
Anyway my dad paid the ransom and they left him tied up in the middle of nowhere, some random guy found him
He's fine now
>A few years ago kidnappers raided my uncle's house in the night, took him and stole a bunch of his stuff (they left his wife and kids though)
>They knew my dad would pay ransom bc he's rich, plus decades ago bandits killed HIS uncle because he didn't pay ransom on time
Sad, tbh.
I've heard this is a big problem in Nigeria, and the reason lots of upwardly mobile Nigerians leave and never want to come back.
Did the kidnappers got jailed?
frick me being south American sounds like an ordeal just to exist
Because they lack will power and want to eat as much as possible while still losing weight
Eating once a day is nice.
>Why are fat people obsessed with fasting, intermittent fasting, and OMAD?
They're fat.
>Don't they realize that going extended periods without food (specifically protein) is catabolic to muscle?
They don't need muscle and don't really think about it. And if they do care, they will simply lift without eating. It's that simple.
Because IIFYM 500 cal restriction means you lose 2lbs in 2 weeks.
I'm down 18lbs in 2 weeks doing rolling 48s refeeding keto.
>thinking skipping breakfast will make your biceps fall off
I do IF, CICO and get 200 grams of protein a day, dairy and meat only
am I based or cringe?
I just finished my first week of CICO and IF. Down 2 pounds.
Fat people are trying to find a loophole/trick to lose weight. Because eating less doesn't compute to them. There NEEDS to be a secret strategy.
They're so stuck in their ways they're trying to trick themselves into losing weight, instead of just doing the bare basic, proven and simple method of losing weight.
Eat less, move more.
Counting calories is too much work for them.
I've been IF for so m be to be now and I feel like it had helped me get a bit leaner. But I'm only doing short fasts between 18 and 36 hours.
I don't believe all the crap about rejuvenation and building lean muscle.
Because they’re moronic. That’s why they’re fat to begin with
A video on the benefits of Fasting:
I'm ripped and I do OMAD. I don't obsess over it or even see it as fasting, it's just a much more efficient and healthier way to eat.
On the contrary, it's people eating multiple times a day and god forbid using tracking apps and meal prepping tupperware who are mentally ill and have an eating disorder.
Meanwhile I cook up a huge feast of meat, eggs, fish and other goodies once a day and then never think about food for the next 24 hours.
>and have an eating disorder.
says the man that has to eat all his daily food in one meal, lmao
Enjoy spiking your insulin multiple times a day.
Because they dont want to be fat anymore.
I am fat and trying to get healthy. Currently eating at a calorie deficit and working out 6 days a week. 6'3 300lbs I've lost 20lbs in a little less than a month. Goal weight is 195. Please tell me if I should be doing anything differently. Inb4 kys.
>Breakfast is a banana, black coffee, protein shake
>Lunch is a small portion of meat and cheese
>Dinner is usually a piece of chicken breast with a small portion of rice or something similar
>not eating at all after 7pm
>only drinking water
>Mon Push 5x workouts + 20 min cardio
>Tues 45min cardio
>Wed Pull 5x workouts + 20 min cardio
>Thurs 45 min cardio
>Fri Legs (no cardio)
>Sat 45 min cardio
>Sun walk around the neighborhood
Also I drink another protein shake before going to the gym.
20lbs in a month is very good progress, so keep it up
Don’t get discouraged when you start to plateau. If it lasts longer than two weeks try lower your calorie intake a bit.
And do your best to stay off cheat meals. If the cravings get you, at least try to limit it to small amounts. But don’t eat anything fried, sugar or soda. Just make a hamburger with a salad as the side.
the moment vegans and ketoscizhos post body is the moment i will stop making fun of them
>verification not required
The slight protein breakdown from fasting is not muscle breakdown, its supporting connective tissues. If any time humans went hungry for a week they started deleting muscles we would have died out long ago.
>The slight protein breakdown from fasting is not muscle breakdown, its supporting connective tissues. If any time humans went hungry for a week they started deleting muscles we would have died out long ago.
You're literally moronic.
We have studies of existing hunter gather populations, and NONE of them go weeks or even days at a time without eating
its absolutely hilarious that people think tribes went days without food, regularly. when all tribes today eat regularly. the only time they did fasting was for religious reasons.
people are so fricking dumb, it hurts
genuine question though: how do you find a balance between losing weight without losing muscle? i feel like every article says 'youre too fat to do this right away so just go for walks first!' but how to break from just the walks? everything i read makes it seem like i'll break my back if i try to jog but i'm not even 180
They are always looking for stupid gimmicks instead of just eating less.
>going extended periods without food (specifically protein) is catabolic to muscle
short term fasts actually increase muscle better than trenbologna.
Seriously, short term 1-3 days are not catabolic and in some cases, 5 day fasts are not catabolic.
by what mechanism? and surely this would be widely adopted by natural competitors for its efficacy?
I have never been fat but I still never eat until after work, or at least the afternoon. I eat however I want and if I eventually get a little soft, I fast for a couple days. Only need to do that a couple times a year max.
>b-b-but you'll lose all your gains!!!
I've done several 5 day fasts and a few years back I went for 10 days to see what would happen. No strength loses. And I can do 2/3/4/5
There is nothing masculine about restricting food and the fact that the israelites have convinced you that starving yourself doesn't make you a femboy freshening up to get his bussy pounded proves how gullible you are
"My husbands a firefighter" "my husbands a CEO with a portfolio of investment properties" "my husband goes for a day without eating to stay thin and svelte for me"
I'm returning to tradition. Gluttony is a vice.
>Don't they realize that going extended periods without food (specifically protein) is catabolic to muscle?
But thats wrong
all research we have on meal timing and dieting say its better to properly distribute protein and and extreme deficits affects muscle loss
but fasting people think its magic and if you go to the msot extreme deficit, with the least amount of protein this doesnt happen.
its an absolute joke
>but mah 500% increase in HGH
its a short spike, with no long term effect, and any kcal deficit increases HGH
I'm was 99kg I'm 89kg now I've been omad fasting for 3 weeks (maybe haven't keep track of the length) I'm doing a 48 hour dry fast atm because I don't lose that much weight during omad (I don't eat much during dinner even)
>extended periods without food (specifically protein) is catabolic to muscle?
Not when your liver glycogen is full, moron.
see
Unrelated to what I said, moron.
Not surprised you don't understand different contexts though, gaytardo.
They're putting the fork down. Don't interrupt them.
> Put down the fork fatty!
> Not like that.
I lost most of my fat % like 3 years ago when the whole fasting thing got popular by doing rolling 24h fasts. Body fat has been at a stable 15% since
Fasting works. Cope, seethe & dilate
Why are fat people obsessed with avoiding working out? Could it be because they are moronic?
Fasting is catabolic but it doesn’t preferentially target muscle if you are active.
t. Have lifted on no-food for a week and maintained my strength throughout.
Try it instead of sperging out at someone doing something different from you.
See
Fat people must be fasting wrong then. I do OMAD + protein shakes and it helped he a lot.
>energy levels remain constant during the day, no more tiredness after lunch because I skip it
>spend less money on food
>lost 12 kilos in a year, at 14% bf right now
>still eat like a pig (meal size wise, not in calories), except it's only 1 meal instead of multiple
Fatties must be doing something wrong.
Fat c**t here, I've been doing OMAD for 2 months and have dropped 35lbs so far. The trick is to not eat like a fat frick during your one meal and actually use CICO like a normal person would.
fasting spares muscle, as humans are designed to/meant for fasting.