Why did Char and the Zeon drop asteroids and colonies on Earth to stop them from polluting it?

Why did Char and the Zeon drop asteroids and colonies on Earth to stop them from polluting it? If you kick up a cloud of dust big enough to cause an everlasting winter, isn't that just as bad as pollution?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The idea is he would make it bad enough to force an immediate evacuation of Earth, but something it would eventually recover from rather then the slow assured death of continued human presence on Earth. He also wants Earth off the table for humanity for other reasons. He hates the Earth Federation and the power it wields over spacenoids, and he hates how Earth is seen as a prize to be conquered for themselves by people like the Zabis. He also believes in his father's theories that in order for humanity to evolve into something better it needs to leave Earth behind for space.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The problem with this is that Victory gundam showed that spacenoids will just come back to Earth eventually anyway and try to reclaim it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you're slowly beginning to understand the point

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That SpaceBlack folk are murderous insectoids?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He’s trying to get people to go into space but at this point he and the rest of zeon had gone batshit insane following an aimless goal

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >soul too weighed down by gravity to understand

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm weighed down by fat.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lose 'em.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because gravity is for gays.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they're moronic spacenoids and as such should be gassed.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just like everyone with all the answers, he's creating problems to solve problems that don't actually exist.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No see Char's totally rational and has completely understandable reasons for wanting to murder billions of people and we should all see him as a misunderstood hero

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All the insane or tyrannical newtype villains completly disprove the idea that Newtypes are the more evolved 'messiahs' that will lead humanity to a perfect society.

    All they are is people with weird psychic powers, no more no less.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I still don't understand what Scirocco wanted.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He wanted to find a true QUEEN to pilot the Titania and rule over him and the earth sphere.

        Unfortunately his princess (Relena) was in another castle, and so he has to settle for Reccoa, Sarah. (Haman also turned him down).

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          His psychic-backed pickup lines were bullshit to manipulate weak-willed women to act as his servants or at most a figurehead.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        operate the world from the shadows under the guise of matriarchy, something like Littlefinger to Queen Sansa

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Frick off normie

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >normie
            sllit your wrist newbie

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The basic same Jovian plan that almost succeeded in Victory.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >earth is sacred
    >cause one of the worst environmental disasters in the history of the planet

    • 4 weeks ago
      Gaiapolis

      Why do we never see the other two impact locations?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ZZ was so shit, a colony drop happens in Dublin and it isn't wiped off the map.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I hate how all the atrocities zeon comitted in the opening of the oyw ALONE are glossed over by the franchsie and never reacted to with the weight they deserve, when they are worse than the acts throughout human history.
        All just so they can still glorify Zeon groups to the fanboys and sell them more zeon modelkits and cute zeon waifus who did nuffin wrong.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Gotta make Japanese boys and some girls, happy even though they lost

          >Three gee deceleration
          >hit Sydney with 9.5 earthquake

          I know Gundam is't hard sci-fi, but it's harder sci fi than super robots, so I have to ask, what are the odds that the writers sat down and worked the figures out? Mr. Tomino had a quite good understanding of physics IIRC.

          Not that hard per se. Hell, we are not really too sure on the dino killer, but it was around 126 Tt.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Three gee deceleration
        >hit Sydney with 9.5 earthquake

        I know Gundam is't hard sci-fi, but it's harder sci fi than super robots, so I have to ask, what are the odds that the writers sat down and worked the figures out? Mr. Tomino had a quite good understanding of physics IIRC.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The stated impact energy does roughly work out. The magnitude is less close, at least in terms of mapping energy to it, but that's got a whole lot of factors you can only really guess at and 9.5 isn't crazy far off. Wouldn't be surprised if the acceleration's pretty reasonable, too.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It was never about stopping pollution, for any of them. The principality did it as a show of force meant to overwhelm the Federation in the original vision, and as a means to destroy Jaburo and leave the Federation a fractured mess after retcons introduced in either Gundam Century (as a broad idea in the lore) or Gundam 0083 (in animation itself), Delaz wanted to make the Federation so dependent on and ravenous of Spacenoid resources that Spacenoids would rebel, Haman wanted to make a statement to cow the Federation and Char just wanted to kill Earthnoids because he outright hated them at that point, even by his own admission to Amuro at the start of the film.

          The various drops may have had secondary benefits of various kinds, but I think the idea of stopping pollution was only ever mentioned to Quess, who was a naive child with hippie ideals and Char demonstrably told her what she wanted to hear at multiple times during the film before admitting he found her annoying in the end, so I don't think you should be taking his word to her as anything indicative. Char and AEUG generally are more concerned about pollution in Zeta, but it's not really a factor in Char's Counterattack,

          The chances aren't very high, because those are figures worked out by data book writers, many of whom were just hired fans, and they wouldn't have had nearly the resources in 1981 that are available today to work that shit out. Unless one of them happened to be a physics or math major then I doubt anyone on staff would have been able to hire someone or even consult with others to do so on their behalf. Tomino himself never got into nearly that kind of math in any of his projects, and wasn't involved in Gundam Century.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/8cyt6yO.jpg

      Why do we never see the other two impact locations?

      What book are these from and where can I get it?

      >no more Sydney
      >not Brisbane
      >The Red Comet supports the Maroons in State of Origin
      >mfw holy this makes so much sense.
      B A S E D

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/8cyt6yO.jpg

        Why do we never see the other two impact locations?

        at least is from Gundam Century, one of the first data books released in 1981 and which had a few writers from the original show involved on some level. There's partial translations for it around the internet in various places, like Mark Simmons site (https://ultimatemark.com/gundam/archive/gundamcentury.html). The way I've seen it put before is that while Tomino's novelizations are more in line with his vision of Gundam, and Gundam: The Origin is more Yaz' vision of the story, Gundam Century can be seen as the vision from writers like Hiroyuki Hoshiyama and Kenichi Matsuzaki from the original show. Many of the ideas introduced in the book were adapted into animation over time, including their conception of the colony drop. Which Tomino always saw as more of a mass colony drop more akin to what happened in Gundam X and he picks out New York as the site the first colony drop hits in his novelization, rather than Sydney. Which the brief visual we get in 0079's opening is definitely more reminiscent of really.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Char was right and so was Hathaway trying to continue his legacy.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Char was a loser and so was Hathaway.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because Bandai never had the guts to accept that terrorism and rebellion are legitimate and cool ways of fighting the unjust status quo.

        https://i.imgur.com/bWHlbFr.jpg

        >earth is sacred
        >cause one of the worst environmental disasters in the history of the planet

        The planet is fine, as Zabi military advisor Carlin would say.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So how come nobody notices/remarks how the ending to Final Fantasy 7 is taken from CCA? Or is there an older precedent that both take from?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because there are far fewer UC and CCA fans than FFVII fans.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >So how come nobody notices/remarks how the ending to Final Fantasy 7 is taken from CCA?
      No fricking way. I need context or more elaboration. Please!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      TVtropes didn't exist back then

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tvtropes didn't exist when a bunch of stuff didn't exist. But I still see a whole bunch of pages citing every reference made in Xenogears.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    life can adapt to the asteroids even if a large number of animals go extinct
    humans however would no longer be able to live comfortably and would head to space
    if humans continue to pollute the earth then eventually it would reach a runaway point which would kill all life on earth

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >if humans continue to pollute the earth then eventually it would reach a runaway point which would kill all life on earth
      Humans cannot pollute Earth more than asteroid impacts will. Humans cannot also create a runaway point that would kill all life on Earth, that's an absurd comment for anyone who has even a limited understanding Earth's biosphere and the types of pollution humanity commits.

      For example a single volcanic eruption like Yellowstone would "pollute" the Earth more than the entire history of humanity has, and it would cause greater extinctions than the entire history of humanity has as well. Nature can do this at any time and that's just one super volcano.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Char is a terrorist but mobile suits battles and the related industries do destroy the planet so he's not wrong for wanting to make the Earth inhospitable for humanity and force a migration into space. Did you ever notice that Tomino is the only mecha anime director who depicts the destruction and displacement of flora and fauna in his anime? It's not random. Just about every other anime glosses over how bad mecha battles are for the environment and ignore how much wildlife is getting caught in the path of a robot battle.

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