Why do ketolards fear this like it's the plague?

Why do ketolards fear this like it's the plague?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >fear
    Huh? Who has emotions about bread?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Pay no attention to the fact that it says the threat processing center of the brain and this actually proves conservatards are giant pussies with an overactive fear response to everything

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >No goy, Pablo stealing your job and Rabbada raping your daughter aren't threats.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Proving me right schizo

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Post physique

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because its the plague

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >moxyte coping again
    Fuck it, I'll bite anyway.
    Ketobros avoid bread because they understand that they literally don't need it. The reason humanity was skinny until recently was because bread was made from working to the bone. You were tilling fields, planting, weeding, plowing, and so forth over and over. This was sufficient work to keep the carbs of bread from building up into body fat. It also helped that sneed oils and corn syrup were basically non-existent.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So your radical hypothesis is that excess calories turn to fat?

      Please regale me with your wisdom

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Excess *empty calories, Moxy boy.
        You can cope all you want, but 200 kcal of beef are NOT the same as 200 kcal of potato chips or soilent.
        The reason ketos and carnivores who occasionally cheat with fruit end up relatively fine is because they still go through shit like fiber and the fact that while fruit is sugary, fructose is buried within actual plant flesh and they only eat so much that it gives that energy boost you praise empty carbs for.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >ketos and carnivores who occasionally cheat with fruit
          Lmao. Imagine being so damaged that you're neurotic about eating fruit.

          Meanwhile, people with consoom fruit juice by the gallons

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            People with what? Diet obesity? Love handles? Permaskinnyfat physique. Fruit juice, unless self-made from citruses or other squeezable fruit groups, is literally just corn syrup and sugar serum.
            Maybe instead of attacking a boogeyman diet that peaked in relevance at 2018, why not attack the unfunny coombait threads that ask if coffee is good for you, or the gays with fixable physiques going "UNNNNNH, WILL I MAKE IT UWU I HAVE SUCH A BREEDABLE SET OF LOVE HANDLES A-BLEU-BLEU"? Unlike the """ketoschizo""", those fags are actual scourges on IST.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >processed food is bad
              >therefore, the food that God Almighty put on this Earth for us to eat... BAD!

              Infinite-tier stupidity.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >S-SEE, I BELIEVE IN YOUR GAWD TOO! THAT MEANS I'M ONE OF YOU!
                Nice try redditor, but I'm agnostic.

                https://i.imgur.com/UfD6xYv.png

                >i am not a descendant of peasants
                The only possible way someone as retarded as you doesn't descend from peasants is Hapsburg-tier inbreeding.

                >praising an animal that is not only carnivorous in actuality, but also rather cowardly compared to other birds of prey like the red-tailed hawk
                Give up. You can still have some semblance of respect here if you do.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This. Carbs are great if you live an active healthy lifestyle. If you are fat and sedentary, carbs are bad.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Skinny marathon runners get diabetes from eating carbs.

        Carbs are harmful even if you aren't overweight.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          source?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You know, after this nuclear flamewar against the samefagging vegan redditard, it's odd to see someone who isn't batshit insane.
        You're right on the money bro, high carbs are only really necessary if you're like an olympian or some other athlete who has a really high MET.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Skinny marathon runners get diabetes from eating carbs.

          Carbs are harmful even if you aren't overweight.

          The duality of ketofags

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Asians have the highest risk of diabetes than any other race. They also eat a diet high in carbs. Look at Japan’s obesity rate and then look at their diabetes numbers.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Chicken battered in carbs served with sides of carbs and liquid sugar?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, it is crazy how much carbs they put in chickens these days. I would never let my family eat there.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Totally keto.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Wow 1 piece of chicken has 2420 Calories. No wonder people are getting fat.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's obviously the calories for one of their buckets.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >carbs

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You're on IST. You should be working out 5 times a week. Get your carbs.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          We're lifters, not Olympians. Put your fork down, and drink some milk.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >get your carbs
            >no, you don't need "carbs!" Drink milk instead!
            Fucking fatties lmfao they are so clueless. It's unreal people are so fucking stupid.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Milk was pretty much the only realistic carb source before the agricultural revolution, veganfat.

              You really need a history lesson anon. People didn't slaughter their pigs every weekend to watch Saturday morning cartoons. That was like a special event where they'd have the whole community or family gather once a year. The average person didn't have a bunch of laying hens either. Hell most of modern history people were making shitty pancakes out of whatever flour substitutes they had like oat flour and cooking it on a wooden plank next to the fire. Or eating bowls of gruel made out of whatever starch they had handy with some added salt or Hispanices if they were rich.

              And they were weak.

              >muh MICROnutrients
              Carbs are the fuel source for athletic/healthy people. You on the other hand are morbidly obese and you have enough MICROnutrients to last you 20 years just in your neck fat alone.

              Keyword is athletes. You aren't running miles everyday.

              They need any scapegoat instead of admitting to the obvious fact that americans consume more meat and grease than any other country on the planet. So they perpetuate a lie that everyone in America is a vegan who runs around do ultra marathons while eating nothing but fruit, rice and bread and that's why they're obese. I'm sure you'll never see packs of bacon and crates of eggs in a fat person's fridge.

              And yet, meat and grease didn't even make Americans obese until sneed oils and HFCS hit the shelves everywhere. Nobody's even blaming veganism for the obesity crisis, vegans are supposed to be annoyingly thin.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >muh vegans are weak meme
                >b-b-b-but he's on steroids!
                ok, find another guy his weight that deadlifts this much

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                How about you post body instead of posting frauds? Let's see how great *you* look.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Fuck you. You don't get to post raw vegan hippies and claim that all vegans are weak and frail.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                LOL, conceding?

                This is like saying my car holds unlimited gas because the gas pump always stops when the tank gets full. You're fucking retarded.

                Except the point being made is that with a low carb and high protein and animal fat diet, you don't have to worry about a calorie count because you'll FEEL full much quicker and have actual satiation. Of course it's not INFINITE you absolute jigaboo. It's unlimited because counting caloREEEEEEEES is not really necessary if you eat right.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >you don't have to worry about a calorie count because you'll FEEL full much quicker and have actual satiation
                Try to eat 3lbs of boiled potatoes.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Try to get fat off of plain chicken.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yet another deflection.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >And they were weak.
                Constant deflection, huh? Carbs make you fat! Oh those people were skinny? Carbs make you weak! Holy shit every time you get knocked over you pop up like a keto punching bag. It's kind of fun.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They weren't fat because they plowed to the bone, offsetting their intske. Doesn't change the fact that they were malnourished.
                You only think you're winning because you're too much of a grainbrain to see that you've metaphorically got chunks blown from your body and are still refusing to just die.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it has a pathetic micro-nutritional profile
    it also has anti-nutrients like phytic acid which compromise the absorption of other micro-nutrients
    it has gluten, which is worthless and can cause adverse reactions in some people

    finally it doesn't even taste good, you only eat it out of habit and addiction to shit carbs and you only really figure this out after not having it for a few months
    nobody needs such a thing in their diet and they would be far better off replacing it with more nutritional foods alongside their main dish

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bread USED to be a sufficient energy source since back then, the average person was working their ass off in fields. But ever since corporatized farming took the helm, we stopped burning as much calories. Combine that with subsidies overproducing corn, soi, and sneed oils, and you get a whole population bloated with My 600lb Life contenders on the regular.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >moxyte coping again
        Fuck it, I'll bite anyway.
        Ketobros avoid bread because they understand that they literally don't need it. The reason humanity was skinny until recently was because bread was made from working to the bone. You were tilling fields, planting, weeding, plowing, and so forth over and over. This was sufficient work to keep the carbs of bread from building up into body fat. It also helped that sneed oils and corn syrup were basically non-existent.

        >le the average person was worked to the bone in the fields!
        They werent cotton picking morons. Farmers throughout history spend an amount of time working the fields that is equivalent to a part time job today.
        Seems to me that ketomorons are making excuses for being sedentary pieces of shit that never do any physical work or exercise.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Seems to me that ketomorons are making excuses for being sedentary pieces of shit that never do any physical work or exercise
          HMMM, I WONDER WHAT FARMING WAS
          I WONDER WHAT THE AMOUNT OF PHYSICAL ACTIVITY THE AVERAGE WHITE COLLAR JOB AMOUNTS TO
          You should eat some meat, or at least some eggs and (actually) buttered toast, maybe your grain brain will start thinking right again.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I guarantee you every single trade worker exerts considerably more energy during the day than the average middle-ages farmer. And they do it 8-10 hours a day, 5 days a week, 50 weeks a year. Not just for two seasons (planting season, harvesting season).

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Looks pretty good to me ketoschizo

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Brevity is the soul of wit.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >doesn't have an argument
          >posts pic of deflated pancake ketofag
          >ignores the thousands of CICO-posters on /cbt/ with the stature of Greek gods

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >still not posting body

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >unlimited calories
          please be bait
          nobody can be this retarded

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm replying to you so you can elaborate on your point. I know youre retarded I just want you to type out more of your retardation for everyone to see.

            Please, go on.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The reason he can get away with "unlimited" calories is because the amount of calories you have in a goyslop snack is equivalent to that of a satisfying meal to him. The point of keto and other low-fat diets is to eliminate snacking and other self-destructive eating habits by eliminating an oversized appetite.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The dude you're replying to doesn't understand the difference between unlimited and infinite.

              So in his mind nothing can ever be unlimited. To him the word "unlimited" basically doesnt exist. He doesn't have vocabulary to describe something which doesn't have artificial limitations placed on it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This is like saying my car holds unlimited gas because the gas pump always stops when the tank gets full. You're fucking retarded.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              That works great until the fatties never learn how to properly plan a diet and hold themselves to a standard so when they go back to eating normally, cause they always do, they just ballon on up cause they never learned anything. The reason why everyone is so outspoken against keto is not because it can’t work, it’s because it doesn’t work long term. Many of us have done keto and know that it is unsustainable and ultimately the only thing that works long term is calorie counting with a balanced diet and exercise. We are just trying to save other fatties from wasting time and getting them on the best path.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Keto upsets people precisely because it works.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >8 years to drop 70-90lbs
                LMAO ketofags are desperate. I dropped 60lbs in 6 months with CICO

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You've missed the point. The point is she maintained the weight loss for years. Anyone can brag about losing 60lbs, the fat fucks in 600lb life lose over 100 in a month because their maintenance is over 6k.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Eating fruit

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Don't forget to mention she's 40 years old on right pic.

                It's well known that high carb diets are anti-aging. That's where the
                >asian genetics
                meme comes from. Who would've thunk a diet properly hydrating, rich in antioxidants and healthy bacteria would make people age gracefully?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                She was younger than that I think. Here she is at 40+

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/2TOW9HA.jpg

                She was younger than that I think. Here she is at 40+

                She lies about what she eats. People who try her diet gain weight. There's a lot of reports about it online.

                Vegans lie constantly for personal profit. They tell themselves it's okay because they are saving animals but in reality they are just awful selfish individuals.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >she lies about what she eats

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This doesn't refute what I said.

                She lies. You lie. Vegans in this thread right now are lying about body photos we can all see for ourselves.

                It's insane but that's the type of lifeform leftists are. Habitual liars.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >she lies about what she eats

                You're posting Solzhenitsyn as if to make some sort of profound statement. You don't have a profound statement. Your ideas amount to:
                >butter good
                >bread, fruit, starchy vegetables bad

                And now that you're being constantly disproven, you are sad 🙁

                Reality doesn't care how you feel gay. You're a frugivore LARPing as a carnivore. So you get fat and sick. Don't bitch when you get the results you chose because you decided to listen to grifters.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I wish you weren't so brain damaged from malnutrition. Legitimately.

                I love arguments because they are a great way to learn stuff. But you don't argue, you only lie.

                Hope you get better. If you don't eat meat soon the brain damage will probably be permanent.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >you are malnoorished
                >???
                >why aren't people listening to my genius arguments??? I am very sad. Vegans are liars they want us to eat bugs

                Pic rel. is the astounding nutritional content of your grass fed butter. Don't mind the trans fat, that's good for you bro 🙂

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Running out of leftist memes disguised as information?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah when they post the "comparative anatomy" bullshit you know they've run out of steam. It's the weakest vegan lie by far.

                That fat vegan doctor had a book deal where he was going to publish a whole book of that idiocy and it never came out. I guess when the publisher had it fact checked they realized it was unpublishable.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes. It's fruitless (hehehe) regardless since even many of the HERBIVORES will happily eat smaller animals if they need a calcium fix.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Are you really going to pretend primates aren't omnivores?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not surprised these lil vegans get twig thin. But they have no fitness other than running and cycling which is suited to their zero fat zero muscle frame. Doubtful they can do more than one pullup. I scorn the day I fell into the high carb low fat low protein ideology -- it made me lose a lot of progress in the gym.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Pull-ups get easier the lighter you are. I can do twelve without trying and I'm the DYEL that doesn't lift from this thread.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >lil vegans

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why does maintenance increase with being a massive lard ass? Because I would think it would be a snow balling problem, because you aren't moving. Or does your body work that fucking hard to keep that miniature fortress afloat?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yep. I've had four keto people in my immediate circle. One had a gastric bypass and gained the weight back. His wife was healthy size and is now overweight. Our family friend lost a bunch of weight during year one of keto and is now larger than she's ever been. My father lost weight on keto and ended up in the hospital with a heart attack before gaining all that weight back and more. Meanwhile I've maintained my weight loss over the course of a decade and I eat high carb low fat which means I eat bread, pasta, and white rice as well as piles of potato. Ketoschizo is quite possibly the dumbest motherfucker on IST and that's saying a lot.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Anecdotes don't prove anything. Did you log everything they ate?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh the no true keto argument. How original.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                sick real and believable anecdotes brah
                post body

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                post body

                Not him but I've been high carb low-fat vegan for years now. Pic rel.

                I never bulk and I never cut. I eat as much as I please every single day.
                >not because I don't believe in calories, but because I eat food that is actually filling and regulates metabolism

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Not him
                then why reply?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why not?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Do you often jump into conversations between other people and show of you body because somebody asked somebody else to show body?
                Are you autistic?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh please. You've been using that same pic of a flat-chested ketolard for over a year now ketoschizo and it's not even you.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Keto posters tend to post body with timestamp, because they are honest decent people.

                Antiketo posters are dishonest subhumans.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >red, flat, no muscle
                you look like a malnourished alcoholic

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Notice how the keto/carnivore posters have timestamps in their pics?

                Notice how the antiketo posters never have timestamps in their pics?

                Everyone else notices.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >posts a pic with a unreadable timestamp and someone claiming to be keto in a separate posts and the highlighted pic being untime stamped
                I always enjoy reading through these threads just to watch you constantly self own. You are just so un-self-aware that it’s hilarious to watch you interact with others.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Welcome to IST. Every post on IST is archived.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I don't need to notice anyfucking thing.
                I can test both the diets myself and notice how I feel on them, how my body composition changes and so on.
                I have NO idea what the fucking anti keto people hope to acomplish and what they think convincing people to eat carbs will do.
                Try both diets for 6 months. See for yourself.
                END OF DISCUSSION.
                I DONT NEED SOME MENTALLY ILL PSYCHOPATH SPAMING IST DAILY to try to convince me to do X or Y.
                No amount of images of whatever matters.
                My real world experience trumps all.
                This pseudo reality of lies can only exist on the internet and theorycrafting.

                Honestly this fucking shit has been going on for years now. It's so fucking hard to believe anybody is so deranged and mentally ill, the more sane explanation is that it's a bot.
                A shitposting bot made to shit up IST by endlessly promoting carbs and crying about keto in any thread for any reason.
                This is the reason I don't even try to argue on the internet any more. Or even read opinion on the internet anymore.
                Some obese fat retard can just put a shitposting bot to bombard you daily for years all the while they drown in lard and the only winning move is not to even engage in it.
                It cannot convince me no matter how much lies and shitposts it spams at me, it will never affect real world evidence. The only thing it can do is waste my time, or emotionally rile me up.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Vegans say the same thing. Its called being delusional because youve fallen into a cult.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I have NO idea what the fucking anti keto people hope to acomplish and what they think convincing people to eat carbs will do.
                >Try both diets for 6 months. See for yourself.
                They want to prevent people from trying keto for themselves, obviously. They use fearmongering to stop any attempt. They'll tell you that you'll die or go bald.

                When people try keto it works. This causes them to tell others. Then more people try keto.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                > When people try keto it doesn’t works. This causes them to tell others. Then more people don’t try keto

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >try both diets and see for yourself
                >NOOO YOU CANT DO THAT DO NOT TRY KETO NOOOOOOOOOO!
                hmmmm makes you think

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah it makes me think keto is shit

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >calorie-restricted diets left her feeling hungry
                So with keto you can eat unlimited calories and still lose weight?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I understand that you're very sad because people aren't listening to you 🙁

                But I'll remind you again: Reality doesn't care about your belief system

                I'm wrong? Then post body.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm wrong? Then post body.
                I got you, senpai. Here's his body at 70:

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                And here's yours at 40, you pilpul-happy assteroid.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                trolling outside of /b/ is against the rules

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So not only do you jump into the conversation to post a body of a person I didnt even ask. But now you are steaming about somebody else posting their body to somebody else.
                This isn't autism, this is mental illness.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but your seethe is palpable lad, that anon posted because he stood by what the other anon said and posted his body. This is fit we post our bodies here it’s not some weird act.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >NTA
                fuck off.
                This
                >not that anon but let me interject
                >oh not that anon either but let me also bla bla blla
                >hey here, not that anon but .....
                fuck offffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
                with your schizo bunny hoping and replying by proxy.
                I'm talking to one person, I expect that person to reply not go radio silent and have other "people" start replying.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but dude this is an anonymous board open to everyone, if you don’t want some random person to respond to you then don’t post. Like are you retarded.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                not that non but have a nice day

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You're replying to a vegan. The pic he posted is fake and he has posted it before.

                Obviously we all know its fake (no timestamp). Also it's probably not a different anon from the one you were talking to. He just pretended to be a different person to try and make the issue of a timestamp seem moot.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >it’s a vegan bro!!!
                I see why they call you guys schizos, aside from the veganfag who started this bait thread I don’t believe anyone else here is a vegan. Just people who like to dab on meme diet fags

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm definitely plant-based but I'm not vegan. I just try to eat the healthiest foods and I don't eat factory farmed garbage so unless I cook it myself I don't eat too much meat.

                I pretend to be vegan because it makes the ketoschizo seethe. He's an infinite waterfall of (You)'s. For two years he has given me the succulent dopamine hits and has never failed me once.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                post body

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Here you go. I'm six pounds lighter since this picture. Sorry I don't have more for your spankbank gay.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >DYEL
                Concession accepted.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah no shit I'm a DYEL. I'm a 40 year old man that doesn't lift. Go figure. Still not fat.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >man gets bedridden after surgery
                >gains weight

                >two women who didn't stick to diet plan
                >gains weight

                >man gets bed ridden after heart attack
                >gains weight

                Nice anecdotes.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I was a nurse and a guy who did keto came in and was put on a ventilator. He died from COVID. Right before he died he said
                >i wish i had gotten the vaccine and eaten carbs

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                How could Putin do that to him?!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry for your loss. I can't get your death vaxx because I don't believe in injecting experimental animal juice and fetus parts into my body. Thank you for understanding.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Ketofags are that retarded unfortunately

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Its a loophole, you can eat as much as you want but you wont eat that much because you generally feel full and your hormones arent going ballistic once you are off of the glycemic rollercoaster.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              This happens when you eat high fiber carbs like beans and potatoes.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Bloat isn't satiation.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                If your body can't digest fiber that's on you.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Well moo moo to you. Humans can't digest that shit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >420g carbs a day
        How big are you?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Look at the protein, specifically what is the lowest % of any protein type.
        Now take the lowest 5% of any protein type from the other side of the image.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >finally it doesn't even taste good
      lol, lmao even

      confirmed for never having actually tried homemade sourdough bread

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They dont know what good food tastes like. They just eat processed bacon and plastic cheese.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        would you ever turn down steak because you want it replaced with bread?
        no? then shut the fuck up

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I would stil be craving carbs after the steak.

          I gave carnivore a try for a week and even after meals of 10 eggs, half a stick of butter, and a pound of fatty ground lamb my mouth was watering for carbs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I make my own and it does taste good.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >muh MICROnutrients
      Carbs are the fuel source for athletic/healthy people. You on the other hand are morbidly obese and you have enough MICROnutrients to last you 20 years just in your neck fat alone.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >it doesn't even taste good
      Eat non-american bread

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >it doesn't even taste good
      Ketofags confirmed to be amerilards

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not a ketoboy but I fear bread. I can and have eaten entire loaves a day. My favorite food is the humble sandwich simply because I enjoy bread so much. I have tried not eating bread and I can't last more than a few days before I'm obsessing over a loaf.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Homemade bread is the ultimate double edged sword. On one hand baking it is good for the spirit and you can control exactly what goes in it, negating much of the goyslop aspect. On the other hand, it's fucking delicious and it's really hard to avoid eating the entire loaf in one day.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        this is my experience with home made bread.
        after the first slice i think to myself "well ... it's going to be best fresh and hot.. I should enjoy it now.." then a few slices in I say fuck it and it's all o ver

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You can always heat it up in the microwave for 5 seconds and it will get soft again

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >heat it up in the microwave
            you disgust me. i don't own a microwave fuck that radioactive carcinogenic garden gnome device

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Omg I had no idea. I better get rid of my garden gnome radio device right away.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I limit myself to about 38g of bread per day, and I always save it for last. I bake weekly.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    its just way too good, too tasty for my own good

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    because they got enormously fat off bread and think that if they go back to eating it, they will balloon up again

    even though carnivorefags are notorious for regularly cheating on their diets and lifestyles

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There was one semi pro keto thread about how bread is not the best source of vitamins, energy, etc, and look who comes out of the would works. Bread is perhaps one of the absolute worst things you can consume I mean really think about it should make up very little of your diet.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bread has one thing going for it: it’s high in iron, sourdough can up increase cellular uptake uptake of exogenous iron

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5380216/

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        *can increase

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bread is the OG goyslop, literally

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bread is the origin of civilization

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The greeks had bread as the main part of their diet.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The average Ancient Greek was also malnourished.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Pythagoras ate a diet of mainly bread and milk and could probably destroy you in a wrestling match.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >ketolards LARP on IST 24/7 about muh tradition
    >meanwhile, reject the three foods their ancestors subsisted on for millenia (bread, potatoes, beans) with <1% obesity

    This entire movement is a joke, obligatory pic rel

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >ancestors
      my history isn't just a few centuries old snowmoron
      i am not a descendant of peasants

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >i am not a descendant of peasants
        The only possible way someone as retarded as you doesn't descend from peasants is Hapsburg-tier inbreeding.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Cool cause soldiers subsisted off of grain more than any group of people, and kings loved their white flour since it was a status symbol and made better tasting bread and desserts

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          sure thing peasant
          don't forget your monthly dentist visit

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            skull on the left is actually a skull from a germanic post bronze-age

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            oh so you ignore the ancestors ways when it's convenient?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Humans were apex predators for two million years

      >What did our ancestors eat during the stone age? Mostly meat
      https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/814485

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >muh evolution!
        >muh soience!
        Kys and go to hell, atheist moron.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Good thing all those african tribes never fell for the meme and kept their super brains

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ahh yes, the trustworthy professors in Tel Aviv.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >here's 30,000 studies to confirm
          Trust the science!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >can't even see the irony of using gnomish junk science to justify his meme diet while discarding thousands of studies on plants for being "Globohomo propaganda"

            You're either baiting or a bot. I'd wager to say the latter but I do know how retarded ketolards are.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ketotards be like "keto is the best diet ever, I went from 430lbs to 310"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You seem miserable.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >fat lazy piece of shit eats all day long every single day
        >finds a diet that restricts him to 3 normal sized meals a day, discourages snacking
        >develops regular exercise habits
        >YEAH THE WEIGHT LOSS IS TOTALLY BECAUSE HE STOPPED EATING BREAD!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >fasting is le GOOD
          >keto is le BAD
          Die.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Fasting is good. Its something people have done for thousands of years. Just like eating bread.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Following your exact logic keto is good then you fucking retard.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah its good, so are many things. But that doesnt mean its better than a normal healthy diet.
                This why the term ketoschizo exists.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >why the term ketoschizo exists.
                Same reason the Soviet Union labeled political dissidents mentally ill. It's how leftists behave when faced with disagreement.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >keto is good then you fucking retard.
                Ketosis is good because ketosis is fasting.

                What most ketolards follow is not ketosis. You'll never actually enter ketosis unless over 90%+ of your calories come from fat. Any protein you consume gets converted to pure glucose through gluconeogenesis.

                Most ketolards have literally never entered ketosis even once kekekekeke

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Then by definition that isn’t a keto diet. Keto means you are in ketosis hence the name given.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Keto means you are in ketosis hence the name given.
                Ketosis is fasting. The "Ketogenic" diet is a fancy marketing term for meme doctors, meat/dairy shills, and influencers to sell books and supplements.

                Hence you won't find even a single ketolard resource website that doesn't sell a laundry list of supplements.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >involves drastically reducing carbohydrate intake and replacing it with fat. This reduction in carbs puts your body into a metabolic state called ketosis.
                This is just like some retard only eating potato chips and little Debby snacks and calling themselves a vegan obviously it wouldn’t fucking work as intended, but rest assured one thing that remains constant is the idiocy of man.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The key to good health is eating real, clean, organic food harvested properly.

                That means

                >ripe fruits
                >fresh veggies
                >minimal/no pesticides
                >raw milk and dairy from HEALTHY animals
                >meat from healthy animals slaughtered properly
                >sprouted grains, free of GMO, free of mycotoxins, free of roundup glyphosate

                If you are having any health issues, do a water or juice fast. Just as God intended.

                If we live this way we will not have health issues. It's literally so simple but everyone wants to be a gigantic retard and do senseless restrictive diets rather than admit the glum truth that our food supply is poisoned and cannot be fixed.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Bro, your imagine is too based in reality to receive replies here. This (you) never happened. No go away from here.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Why are you so upset? Did the keto dieter do something to anger you?

          I am happy when I see other people succeed. Pic related.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            He's a redditmoron, and he got banned from some subreddit by another lardass redditor who happens to be a keto frequenter or something. So he decided to take his impotent rage out on IST for some reason.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    NO NONO

    IT'S LITERALLY CARBS AND LITERALLY IT WILL LITERALLY MAKE YOU FAT NOOOOOOOOO

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >it's another ketoschizo thread

    Just popping in here as an eternal reminder that the slimmest people on Earth mostly white rice and fruit.

    Cope. Seethe. Bacon grease shart.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Thank you grain merchant. I'm plant-based now!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >veganschizo tries to claim his own thread was actually the creation of a keto"""schizo""" the whole time
      Just stop.

      >fat lazy piece of shit eats all day long every single day
      >finds a diet that restricts him to 3 normal sized meals a day, discourages snacking
      >develops regular exercise habits
      >YEAH THE WEIGHT LOSS IS TOTALLY BECAUSE HE STOPPED EATING BREAD!

      I mean, he ate less empty calories, no?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      now add steak and you have a diet of legends

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      because in those parts of the world, you'd get brutally bullied(psychologically) by every other person you encounter if you're more than 15kg overweight. every 30 minutes, someone will remind you of how disgusting you look and will judge you whenever you put food in your repulsive mouth.
      t. ricemoron

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >in those parts of the world, you'd get brutally bullied(psychologically) by every other person you encounter if you're more than 15kg overweight.
        Interesting. So it's not the 1-1 correlation between fat consumption and obesity?

        I guess fat makes you skinny, because it's 2022 logic is gay

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          i didn't say that it was the only factor that made that region skinny. stop antagonizing everyone just because they didn't deliberately side with your narrative.

          while we are at it, japan and s.korea have very low obesity prevalence according to your chart but they also have high dietary fat consumption apparently. why is that?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/8rNQiT8.png

      >in those parts of the world, you'd get brutally bullied(psychologically) by every other person you encounter if you're more than 15kg overweight.
      Interesting. So it's not the 1-1 correlation between fat consumption and obesity?

      I guess fat makes you skinny, because it's 2022 logic is gay

      Now do portion sizes. You’re acting like the entire western world is keto when they eat excess fat and carbs. The obesity is from excessive food.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >excess fat and carbs
        >portion control

        Portion control doesn't work when you're not eating real food. Your body eats until you've gotten enough nutrients to continue surviving.

        And it turns out
        >butter, lard, ghee, animal fat
        >vegetable oils

        Have almost zero nutrition but add nearly 1000 extra calories of food a day. Directly causing obesity. If portion control worked for the majority then we would have 3/4 being overweight and obese.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bread and fish were the nutritional bedrock of every great civilization in History. Listening to ketotards try to explain why they're not fad dieters is hilarious. I look forward to you all dropping dead at 60 from heart attacks. I will personally explain to your children that their father is dead because he was braindead long before his heart stopped.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There's no way Atlanteans were eating bread.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And that image proves they werent eating bread... How?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Based chad.

      >"Breakfast (ἀκρατισμός akratismós and ἀκράτισμα akratisma, acratisma[4]) consisted of barley bread dipped in wine (ἄκρατος ákratos), sometimes complemented by figs or olives.[5] They also ate a sort of pancake called τηγανίτης (tēganítēs), ταγηνίτης (tagēnítēs)[6] or ταγηνίας (tagēnías),[7] all words deriving from τάγηνον (tágēnon), "frying pan".[8] The earliest attested references on tagenias are in the works of the 5th century BC poets Cratinus[9] and Magnes.[10]

      Tagenites were made with wheat flour, olive oil, honey and curdled milk, and were served for breakfast.[11][12][13] Another kind of pancake was σταιτίτης (staititēs), from σταίτινος (staitinos), "of flour or dough of spelt",[14] derived from σταῖς (stais), "flour of spelt".[15] Athenaeus in his Deipnosophistae mentions staititas topped with honey, sesame and cheese.[16][17][18] "

      >"In ancient Greece, fruit and vegetables were a significant part of the diet, as the ancient Greeks consumed much less meat than in the typical diet of modern societies.[58] Legumes would have been important crops, as their ability to replenish exhausted soil was known at least by the time of Xenophon.[59]

      Vegetables were eaten as soups, boiled or mashed (ἔτνος etnos), seasoned with olive oil, vinegar, herbs or γάρον gáron, a fish sauce similar to Vietnamese nước mắm. In the comedies of Aristophanes, Poor families ate oak acorns (βάλανοι balanoi).[61] Olives were a common appetizer.[62]

      Fruits, fresh or dried, and nuts, were eaten as dessert. Important fruits were figs, raisins, and pomegranates. In Athenaeus' Deipnosophistae, he describes a dessert made of figs and broad beans.[67] Dried figs were also eaten as an appetizer or when drinking wine. In the latter case, they were often accompanied by grilled chestnuts, chick peas, and beechnuts. "

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >carbs make you fat
    >but the leanest people live on carbs
    >but the leanest countries live on carbs
    >but the fattest countries eat the most fat
    >...
    >*combined screeching of 1000 ketolards*
    >I-it's b-because t-they're m-malnourished!!!

    I love these threads. The cope and seethe from ketolards is literally endless.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How to cure obesity: Stop eating carbs.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/L09e0Li.png

        How to cause an obesity epidemic: Tell your citizens to eat carbs.

        >has been using the same charts to support his meme diet claims for two years

        You'd think he'd find new material after two years of getting BTFO but he's clearly too low energy to create original content

        >what is water weight
        >what is glycogen reserves
        >what is sustainability

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How to cause an obesity epidemic: Tell your citizens to eat carbs.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >no no its not because of mcdonalds and hfcs sedentary life styles!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >nooooo carbs make you fucken fat!!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I could eat some rice right now

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >but the leanest people live on carbs

      Yeah because they don't eat much period.99% of the people with the money for meat eat fuckloads of other garbage

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you seventh day adventist milquetoasts fear meat making you sexually virile?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It doesn't. One single beef burrito will impair your ability to get hard for an entire night. This is a studied fact. Not to mention the longterm erectile dysfunction most meat eaters experience later in life.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Fat predditor body status?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      not posted

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Happy because I found some sourdough rye bread at aldi with no sneed oil or onions, no weird ingredients at all. My cardio had been suffering from lack of carbs.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >man genetically modifies his foods and poisons them with pesticides
    >man injects his infants with heavy metals and cuts off their foreskins to inflict trauma
    >children grow up weak and deformed
    >deformed children try various memediets to correct this poisoning

    Disgusting world we live in.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >sure im not a christian, hate them all and wish they would drop dead
      >but if i post this maybe they will become vegan

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Misinterpretation scrote, learn English. The passage (as translated) indicates that God has also given to us all animal life in the same way as the plants.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Christ is Lord and I'm saying that we should eat the foods He put on this Earth to nourish us.

        Don't ever accuse me of being an atheistic worm ever again.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You aren't Christian, moxyte. Stop pretending to have multiple personalities.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Keto works, pic related

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >last video posted 1 year ago
      >"divorce"

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        keto leads to divorce confirmed

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just had some freshly made bread rolls, ham and jarlsberg cheese, also danish salami, fresh from the deli. Some cracked black pepper.
    Seethe ketomorons you can never enjoy anything so fresh and tasty.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I eat a loaf of bread with margarine every day and I look and feel great.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Where are all the studies on mushroom consumption? Do ketolards shun mushrooms as well?

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why are you addicted to carbohydrates you fat cunt?

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This and pasta.
    I don't understand it. Ketofriends are giving themselves insulin problems because they are fucking up the enzymes they need to break down food.

  27. 1 month ago
    Moxyte, Vegan Antichrist

    >ketoschizo still thinks he can find a chink in the armor

    What exactly are your goals? Two years ago IST despised vegans and was indifferent to keto. Now you've singlehandedly managed to turn the entirety of IST against your meme diet.

    I'm not a vegchud, but if I were, you'd have played right into the palm of my hands. Feel free to screencap this.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You really think you're the one who isn't the one being utterly clowned ITT? You have tried time and time again to make it seem like your anti-keto battle wasn't a one-man plebbit brigade with maybe a few of your closer goons joining in every now and then. You pretend that you aren't a schizophrenic redditlard by slightly changing your typing dialect and samefagging, maybe IP hopping and cookie clearing on a mobile network, then when that failed, you resorted to making fun of people's ancestral ideals while also pretending to be part of them like in

      https://i.imgur.com/FNuh92o.jpg

      >processed food is bad
      >therefore, the food that God Almighty put on this Earth for us to eat... BAD!

      Infinite-tier stupidity.

      and

      https://i.imgur.com/IWzfVQG.png

      >man genetically modifies his foods and poisons them with pesticides
      >man injects his infants with heavy metals and cuts off their foreskins to inflict trauma
      >children grow up weak and deformed
      >deformed children try various memediets to correct this poisoning

      Disgusting world we live in.

      , then when I broke that by revealing that I wasn't even a Christian, you resorted to your usual song and dance of cherrypicked fatsos failing keto or dopes who got jabbed, and when people weren't falling for that, you went into panic mode and desperately started trying to pretend that you didn't make the thread while also posting telltale vegan failmemes like

      https://i.imgur.com/aSHX2mq.jpg

      [...]
      You're posting Solzhenitsyn as if to make some sort of profound statement. You don't have a profound statement. Your ideas amount to:
      >butter good
      >bread, fruit, starchy vegetables bad

      And now that you're being constantly disproven, you are sad 🙁

      Reality doesn't care how you feel gay. You're a frugivore LARPing as a carnivore. So you get fat and sick. Don't bitch when you get the results you chose because you decided to listen to grifters.

      . You lost the moment that was posted. It's over, Moxyte, because unlike your claims about everyone who dares oppose your grainbrain rambling, there's plenty of proof you are a vegan fatass.
      But you do still have a chamce to win. Post body with timestamp. No photoshop, no stock brown models, just you and a sticky note displaying today's date and time.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Damn this is the first time I’ve seen ketoschizo own up to his name.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You can't run, gay. Post body.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I’m NTA lol I’m just along for the ride of this thread, you two are entertaining

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        not reading all that lmfao

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Of course, because your vegan brain literally can't comprehend larger bodies of text when you aren't the one haplessly vomiting pilpul.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            i just ate a bunch of ham and salami on fresh bread
            cope and seethe ketoschizo

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Why don't you post your ham and salami? C'mon.

              I’m NTA lol I’m just along for the ride of this thread, you two are entertaining

              Oh ok

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I went and made two more rolls after this :^)
                Seeing as I posted my meat, you post body. Do it ketomoron you won't lmao.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why don't you? You're the one who started all this.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >asks people to post their food because he is schizo and thinks everyone is a vegan
                >wont post body
                Okay ketoschizo.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Come on, do it. It'll make your victory against the ketoschizo more delectable, won't it?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                i asked you first bub

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You'll happily prove you aren't vegan, but you're still elusive to posting body? Cmon, if you mog me, I'll concede.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >reading all that nonsense

        Eating plants is ancestral, see

        https://i.imgur.com/fcalBZO.jpg

        Based chad.

        >"Breakfast (ἀκρατισμός akratismós and ἀκράτισμα akratisma, acratisma[4]) consisted of barley bread dipped in wine (ἄκρατος ákratos), sometimes complemented by figs or olives.[5] They also ate a sort of pancake called τηγανίτης (tēganítēs), ταγηνίτης (tagēnítēs)[6] or ταγηνίας (tagēnías),[7] all words deriving from τάγηνον (tágēnon), "frying pan".[8] The earliest attested references on tagenias are in the works of the 5th century BC poets Cratinus[9] and Magnes.[10]

        Tagenites were made with wheat flour, olive oil, honey and curdled milk, and were served for breakfast.[11][12][13] Another kind of pancake was σταιτίτης (staititēs), from σταίτινος (staitinos), "of flour or dough of spelt",[14] derived from σταῖς (stais), "flour of spelt".[15] Athenaeus in his Deipnosophistae mentions staititas topped with honey, sesame and cheese.[16][17][18] "

        >"In ancient Greece, fruit and vegetables were a significant part of the diet, as the ancient Greeks consumed much less meat than in the typical diet of modern societies.[58] Legumes would have been important crops, as their ability to replenish exhausted soil was known at least by the time of Xenophon.[59]

        Vegetables were eaten as soups, boiled or mashed (ἔτνος etnos), seasoned with olive oil, vinegar, herbs or γάρον gáron, a fish sauce similar to Vietnamese nước mắm. In the comedies of Aristophanes, Poor families ate oak acorns (βάλανοι balanoi).[61] Olives were a common appetizer.[62]

        Fruits, fresh or dried, and nuts, were eaten as dessert. Important fruits were figs, raisins, and pomegranates. In Athenaeus' Deipnosophistae, he describes a dessert made of figs and broad beans.[67] Dried figs were also eaten as an appetizer or when drinking wine. In the latter case, they were often accompanied by grilled chestnuts, chick peas, and beechnuts. "

        >b-but muh
        Cope and seethe. I literally don't care.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >95% vegan, 5% oysters, fatty fish, and beef/lamb heart with raw testicles
    kneel

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I avoid bread (now) because as a pacific islander my people have never baked bread. The only consistent source of carbs we had were some fruits and coconuts, and maaaybe some root vegetables (sweet potato/taro) but most of our diet was high fat high protein fish for literally how many years up until like 60 years ago when started to migrate to new zealand/australia/america.

    Why is is that we've been in a first world country for like 60 years, exposed to easy carbs and now we're the fattest people in the world. That proves to me that carbs and sugar do not belong in our diet.

    Charles polloquin even mentions that the closer your ancestors are to the equator the less you will need carbs. Carbs were used mainly in winter when you couldn't hunt as a hibernation method. If your ancestors were close to the equator and didn't experience a true harsh winter you could carry on hunting (eating meat) without needing to store carbs to survive. So that's why white people are better at using carbs but as darker skinned folk can't process those carbs as efficienctly.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What about native north americans? They were nomadic but tribes still survived in the cold without a diet high in carbs. They have high rates of obesity and diabetes since being introduced to western diets.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        good point.

        I guess yeah, there's more factors than how close you were to the equator like poverty, education etc which correlate with obesity. I think at the end of the day Charles polloquin wasn't saying that people who lived far from the equator were immune to carbs, they were just less susceptible to those who lived close.

        Polynesians, Africans, South Americans etc. All people who get fat when introduced to western diets. Again, there's more factors than that, but I think personally it's a good little thought experiment.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not really trying to take one side or the other but your theory is loaded with holes and confounding variables, though I do believe ancestral diets are a based idea for multiple reasons

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yeah there are definitley more factors than how close you lived to the equator. We don't have all the answers yet.

        My biggest explanation for diabetes and obesity living as a polynesian in the "poor" part of my country is the accesibility to carbs and sugar as a poor person, mixed with the lack of education. "Oh I can buy more food for less money" (the food is trash with no protein) is what makes us fat.

        Ancestral diets to me make sense for reasons I haven't even thought of yet. As weird as that sounds.

        >Charles polloquin
        Died at 57 of a heart attack.

        yeah that's true. His father died of a heart attack too so they wonder whether it was heridetary or not. The thing about Polloquin though is this man is formally educated to the masters level and has forgotten more about fitness/nutrition we have ever known. He isn't against carbs btw, nor does he promote keto or carnivore, his idea is that "you need to deserve your carbs" which I think is a fairly moderate stance while also recognising the power and risk of carbohydrates.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >formally educated
          >which I think is a fairly moderate stance while also recognising the power and risk of carbohydrates.
          So he was a low-carber that took steroids and died of heart disease from consuming tons of meat.

          >muh genetics

          I like how we have literally tens of thousands of studies proving saturated fat causes heart disease, we have endless pictures of people's arteries clogged with it from both autopsies and angiograms, yet somehow it's still a "mystery" to the people who continuously deny this reality and drop dead of heart disease like flies.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            He took steroids for 20 years, I would bet my last buck it was a combination of that and the heridetary gene his dad died from.

            Also, he wasn't really a low-carber he literally just said that fat people don't deserve carbs. Which imo is a fairly moderate stance to have, fat people don't really need such an energy dense macronutrient when they have tons of fat to burn. He also was a big proponent of eating fruit.

            No the studies show that heart disease isn't correlated with saturated fat but with how fat you actually are. So if you're fat you will have a higher chance of heart disease, even if you're unhealthy eating like shit but in a good bf% range you're less at risk for heart disease than the fat vegan guy.

            How do you acknowledge studies of heart disease and then drop genetics like a whole branch of science doesn't exist?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >No the studies show that heart disease isn't correlated with saturated fat but with how fat you actually are.
              Post them.

              >How do you acknowledge studies of heart disease and then drop genetics like a whole branch of science doesn't exist?
              I've yet to see even a single paper from this whole branch of science asserting that saturated fat clogging the arteries is a spontaneous manifestation of "muh genetics".

              Similar to the fabled obesity gene.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ill give you a video which is well sourced you can follow the studies in the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIXbnCZ5kGw

                This one here directly speaks about obesity benig the primary factor in heart health: https://www.acc.org/latest-in-cardiology/articles/2019/01/11/07/39/hypertriglyceridemia-management-according-to-the-2018-aha-acc-guideline

                again: https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIR.0000000000000973

                It's pretty well documented. Obesity is the determining factor. Now you said you had thousands of studies right? Can you post a mere 1 thousand studies for me showing that fat is the main culprit for heart disease (studies that include caloric count + other macros too please) I'm sure that wouldn't be too hard for you right?

                Because I never fucking said that did I? I said that his heart attack could have been the combination of genetics + steroids. I never said he was a healthy man who spontaneously clogged his arteries. Not sure why you're trying so hard to change the argument?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Nina Teicholz
                Based. You just triggered the vegan for sure.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Nina Teicholz
                You're going to get pissy when I say this but you do realize she is literally THE shill for the meat and dairy industry? You may as well have posted Atkins and Taubes.

                I've seen her nonsense a million times and she never once supports her claims with actual evidence. She merely tries to cast shade on proven studies.

                >This one here directly speaks about obesity benig the primary factor in heart health: https://www.acc.org/latest-in-cardiology/articles/2019/01/11/07/39/hypertriglyceridemia-management-according-to-the-2018-aha-acc-guideline
                The opening salvo talks about triglycerides, which is a form of fat. And makes the following recommendations
                >"Similar to the ACC/AHA recommendation for a very low fat diet in severe hypertriglyceridemia, the ESC/EAS guideline discusses restriction of fat content to 10-15% of the diet. For pharmacotherapy in severe hypertriglyceridemia, the ESC/EAS guideline endorses fenofibrate, n-3 fatty acids (2-4 g/day), and niacin."

                You are seriously trying to disprove me by linking me articles that corroborate what I'm saying? This is bottomless stupidity.

                >again: https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIR.0000000000000973
                "Obesity also leads to the development of cardiovascular disease and cardiovascular disease mortality independently of other cardiovascular risk factors."

                It's well known that being a fat fuck increases risk of virtually every known chronic degenerative disease. This isn't revolutionary and it doesn't disprove even a single word I've stated.

                >I said that his heart attack could have been the combination of genetics + steroids.
                You have posted an industry shill, an article that supports my factual claims, and some irrelevant fluff about obesity increasing disease risk.

                You still have failed to identify genetics as a factor, which is the only thing I actually asked you to do, numbskull retard.

                >pic rel. Do you think this is saturated fat and fibrin, or genetics+steroids?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Lmao, predictable seething:

                https://i.imgur.com/Uqk3vwn.png

                >Nina Teicholz
                Based. You just triggered the vegan for sure.

                Nina is so based.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >You're going to get pissy when I say this but you do realize she is literally THE shill for the meat and dairy industry

                Dude, you can't make your argument. "Omg you're totally not gonna agree with me here but i hate her." That's your opinion and you didn't debunk a thing she said.

                >
                It's well known that being a fat fuck increases risk of virtually every known chronic degenerative disease. This isn't revolutionary and it doesn't disprove even a single word I've stated.

                >>No the studies show that heart disease isn't correlated with saturated fat but with how fat you actually are.
                Post them.

                You were the one who told me to back my claim that obesity was the primary factor. So that's what I did?

                >you failed to identify genetics as a factor

                Oh sorry, here you go: https://www.ottawaheart.ca/heart-condition/inherited-cardiac-conditions-genetic-disorders#:~:text=Genetics%20can%20influence%20the%20risk,likelihood%20of%20developing%20heart%20disease.

                https://www.cardiosecur.com/magazine/specialist-articles-on-the-heart/heart-attack-genetic-risk

                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7006335/#:~:text=Genetics%20%E2%80%93%20although%20complex%20%E2%80%93%20can%20influence,pressure%20or%20high%20cholesterol%20levels.

                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3319439/

                So these 2 studies (and 2 websites) cite genetics as being an important factor for heart disease. When are you going to post 1000 studies on why fat causes heart disease bro? Or will you continue to change the subject and post pictures with no sources or links?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Oh sorry, here you go: https://www.ottawaheart.ca/heart-condition/inherited-cardiac-conditions-genetic-disorders#:~:text=Genetics%20can%20influence%20the%20risk,likelihood%20of%20developing%20heart%20disease.
                >https://www.cardiosecur.com/magazine/specialist-articles-on-the-heart/heart-attack-genetic-risk
                >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7006335/#:~:text=Genetics%20%E2%80%93%20although%20complex%20%E2%80%93%20can%20influence,pressure%20or%20high%20cholesterol%20levels.
                >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3319439/
                Excellent. So it appears to state that the two major components of genetics
                >high blood pressure
                >high cholesterol
                Contribute to the development of heart disease.

                It's very convenient for us that we have a way to reduce heart disease risk to almost zero, and even reverse heart disease with a plant-based whole foods diet devoid of saturated fat.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >we have a way to reduce heart disease risk to almost zero
                Can we reduce heart disease risk to zero and covid risk to zero at the same time? Or do we have to pick one or the other?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This. I hope we can get a vaccine that doesn't have a 100% death rate when you take it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/Uqk3vwn.png

                >Nina Teicholz
                Based. You just triggered the vegan for sure.

                Nina Teicholz is a paid shill who is funded by the meat and dairy industry. Vid rel actually shows who she is being paid by and why https://youtu.be/OkqWdY5_2-8

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not interested in ad hominem attacks.

                I watched this debate here instead:

                Debates are a much better way to see who is right and who is wrong.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                [...]
                Anyone unfamiliar with Nina Teicholz, here's a debate between her and a vegan:

                You will see for yourself why vegans hate her so much.

                SPOILER: She wins.

                Exposing that she is a paid industry shill via bank statements and whose funding her isn't "ad hominem" attacks.

                She promotes unhealthy diets that are going to send a lot of people to the grave because it's profitable for the people funding her. Similar to the Covid-19 vaccine injections that will also maim billions.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why are vegans so antisemetic?

                I don't think victimizing garden gnomes will help you save animals.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's because Hitler was a vegetarian who rescued many dogs and he cared about the planet very much

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                take ur meds

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/WPfu4AK.jpg

                >Nina Teicholz
                You're going to get pissy when I say this but you do realize she is literally THE shill for the meat and dairy industry? You may as well have posted Atkins and Taubes.

                I've seen her nonsense a million times and she never once supports her claims with actual evidence. She merely tries to cast shade on proven studies.

                >This one here directly speaks about obesity benig the primary factor in heart health: https://www.acc.org/latest-in-cardiology/articles/2019/01/11/07/39/hypertriglyceridemia-management-according-to-the-2018-aha-acc-guideline
                The opening salvo talks about triglycerides, which is a form of fat. And makes the following recommendations
                >"Similar to the ACC/AHA recommendation for a very low fat diet in severe hypertriglyceridemia, the ESC/EAS guideline discusses restriction of fat content to 10-15% of the diet. For pharmacotherapy in severe hypertriglyceridemia, the ESC/EAS guideline endorses fenofibrate, n-3 fatty acids (2-4 g/day), and niacin."

                You are seriously trying to disprove me by linking me articles that corroborate what I'm saying? This is bottomless stupidity.

                >again: https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIR.0000000000000973
                "Obesity also leads to the development of cardiovascular disease and cardiovascular disease mortality independently of other cardiovascular risk factors."

                It's well known that being a fat fuck increases risk of virtually every known chronic degenerative disease. This isn't revolutionary and it doesn't disprove even a single word I've stated.

                >I said that his heart attack could have been the combination of genetics + steroids.
                You have posted an industry shill, an article that supports my factual claims, and some irrelevant fluff about obesity increasing disease risk.

                You still have failed to identify genetics as a factor, which is the only thing I actually asked you to do, numbskull retard.

                >pic rel. Do you think this is saturated fat and fibrin, or genetics+steroids?

                [...]
                Nina Teicholz is a paid shill who is funded by the meat and dairy industry. Vid rel actually shows who she is being paid by and why https://youtu.be/OkqWdY5_2-8

                Anyone unfamiliar with Nina Teicholz, here's a debate between her and a vegan:

                You will see for yourself why vegans hate her so much.

                SPOILER: She wins.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Nina Teicholz
                She's a bimbo journalist that has no idea what she's talking about. She completely exposed herself on Rogan a few years back.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >we have literally tens of thousands of studies proving saturated fat causes heart disease
            lol

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Charles polloquin
      Died at 57 of a heart attack.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >it's the carbs
      >not the fact that you fucks put spam and mayo in everything

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ive seen islanders at work literally cook up 5 packs of instant noodles in a massive bowl and thats considered a 'snack'. They just love to eat.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it's the quantity of what we eat too, are bad education and shit income. There's definitley more factors than carbs, but the point I'm making is this:

        high protein/high fat = higher satiety meaning we wouldn't eat as much food, especially the shitty blood sugar level rising food like carbs. We get hungry because of that insulin response, we think it's hunger when really our sugar levels are just being fucked with.

        Studies have shown people go 700+ calories over their TDEE 2 groups. 1 group overeats with carbs/fat the other group overeats with protein. Miraculously the protein group doesn't gain extra fat, they keep the same body mass meaning that going a bit over your calories with protein doesn't make you fat like other macros do. Honestly imo more protein less carbs in and of itself could solve a large portion of obesity.

        Ive seen islanders at work literally cook up 5 packs of instant noodles in a massive bowl and thats considered a 'snack'. They just love to eat.

        Now tell me, if instead of 5 packs of mi gorengs we swapped that for 5 packs of beef jerky or lean steaks. Do you think we would still be fat?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >There's definitley more factors than carbs
          It's just the carbs. Don't let him trick you just by being aggressive. You're 100% correct and everything you've said is reasonable.

          Here's a presentation on food processing which explains how the fattening effect of carbs is changed by processing

          All obesity is explained by carbs. All of it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            it's the quantity of what we eat too, are bad education and shit income. There's definitley more factors than carbs, but the point I'm making is this:

            high protein/high fat = higher satiety meaning we wouldn't eat as much food, especially the shitty blood sugar level rising food like carbs. We get hungry because of that insulin response, we think it's hunger when really our sugar levels are just being fucked with.

            Studies have shown people go 700+ calories over their TDEE 2 groups. 1 group overeats with carbs/fat the other group overeats with protein. Miraculously the protein group doesn't gain extra fat, they keep the same body mass meaning that going a bit over your calories with protein doesn't make you fat like other macros do. Honestly imo more protein less carbs in and of itself could solve a large portion of obesity.

            [...]
            Now tell me, if instead of 5 packs of mi gorengs we swapped that for 5 packs of beef jerky or lean steaks. Do you think we would still be fat?

            >All obesity is explained by carbs. All of it.
            >5 packs of mi gorengs we swapped that for 5 packs of beef jerky or lean steaks.

            Yes, indeed, all obesity.

            *except the entire continent of Asia, Africa
            >b-but the polynesians who fry everything eat noodles and they're fat
            lmao

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              China has the highest rate of type 2 diabetes in the world and they stuff themselves with rice and bat all fucking day.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >He doesn't know about americanization

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Can anyone find the nutrition info for bats?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            True. I will never put carbs on my sandwich again.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Not exactly. I think even “junk food” isn’t a good indicator. People were far more thin in the 50s and 60s and their diets back then were absolute shit and based on early science completely funded by corporations.
            I think obesity today is far more complex than “carb” or “no carb.”
            Likely more due to some endocrine issues that are nuking everyone’s metabolism. Micro plastics, birth control, god knows what.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Do you think we would still be fat?
          Yes.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >ketodelusion has now reached the point where THE staple of civilization is now considered toxic waste

    Civilization wouldn't even exist without staple grains like bread, beans, and rice. We would've all starved to death ages ago without them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Slaves need slave feed. But why would a man be happy to be a slave?

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i couldn't give less of a shit about studies.
    i just fucking love bread and will never stop eating bread

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are these threads just a psyop from both sides? Everyone know eating excess makes you fat. Doesn't matter if it's carbs, protein, or fat.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's just vegans being relentless shills.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I knew this guy who ate too many protons and he got fat

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah 70% of America

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It’s usually ketoschizo arguing with everyone and a veganfag. Lots of people say post body, next no body ever does, keto schizo gets mad if they do, keto schizo posts old screen shots of some fags body and acts like that counts, but it doesn’t. Most people are reasonable and understand that eating too much is what makes you fat, and they try and voice reason but the vegangayry and ketoschizophrenia is too thick to actually make any progress with these two. I personally just like to farm for (you)s in these threads and fuck with both the keto and the vegan. I personally love carbs love meat and love veggies, but I hate meme dieters.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Keto is valid for people with metabolic or mental issues. There are dozens of studies showing reversal of type 2, reduction of meds for mental issues, etc…

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If you are speaking of that seizure disorder, yes that is the only valid use for keto, everything else you said was a crock or due to confounding variables.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7641470/

            The problem with keto is that it’s hard to sustain. I’ve found low carb (less than 100g) to be the sweet spot but you can absolutely shed weight on keto. I went from 33%BF to 26%BF in 6 months. Still have more to lose obviously but I’m just beginning.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You can totally lose weight on keto, but you can on veganism too. Meme diets biggest issue is that they are not sustainable longterm. to actually keep weight off you need to learn how to go about living in a completely different way cause your old way was dysfunctional which lead to your weight gain. Replacing your old way with hyper restricting diets is just replacing your old dysfunctional lifestyle with another dysfunctional one. You are trying to skate around the core of the problem which is poor eating habits usually revolving around portion control, and over indulgence of snack foods and fast food. This is why calorie counting, along with a balanced diet and exercise work so well because you are adopting it a lifestyle that is sustainable since you don’t have to maintain constant restrictions on your life to such an extreme degree. You can still have occasional treats like ice-cream or a burger and beer at a bbq, and you don’t have to always be maintaining a super strict diet that will eventually lead to a break in your willpower. I have no problem admitting you can lose weight on keto, I just know from first hand experience that all that weight comes back, and the only long term effective diet is a balanced one augmented by calorie counting and exercise.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Obesity is cured by two factors:

                >eating real food
                >learning to cook

                If you aren't satisfied with the food your ancestors ate for 6000 years since the Earth's creation, repeat step 2
                >learning to cook

                A burdensome task for the American crowd, but surely it can be accomplished.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                guess euros are even worse than americans at it

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                obesity is cured by eating less food you fucking retard holy shit why do you even stroke the keyboard with your greasy blobby fingers you bloated lardy fat bigger? biggers like you should be banned from using the internet until you reach a healthy weight.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >obesity is cured by eating less food

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                destroyed by a five second google search lmao stay ugly, bigger.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >appeal to authority
                OP is gay, as usual.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Because they (and pretty much every IST poster) base their worldview on contrarianism/fear-mongering justified by what youtube/momscience blogs shit out, filtered through memes.

                If keto was mainstream, IST would've promoted carbs (and of course would've fucked up by promoting fructose instead of sucrose because FRUCTOSE IS IN FROOT THEREFORE NATURAL).

                >fat fucks lose weight on a hypocaloric diet when surpervised
                >fat fucks regain weight over 6 years without supervision
                >metabolism slows down over time because they age and are sedentary
                /fit/: THIS PROVES HYPOCALORIC DIETS DONT WORK IT MUST BE THE BREADS FAULT

                >obesity is cured by eating less food you fucking retard holy shit
                Eating less food won't satisfy you and will just cause rubber banding. If that worked we wouldn't have a 45% obesity rate in the USA and another 30% being overweight.

                Processed food is hypercaloric and virtually nutritionless. Eating real food however is very satisfying, filled with nutrients, and makes obesity very difficult to achieve.

                >holy shit why do you even stroke the keyboard with your greasy blobby fingers you bloated lardy fat bigger? biggers like you should be banned from using the internet until you reach a healthy weight.

                Why are you spewing this venom? Do you truly hate God's creation so much that you must attack natural foods?

                Go eat plain boiled potatoes, as many as you want. You will stop eating and "be satisfied" very fast. I struggle to get enough kcal in on a mostly legume, bread and vegetable + some organ meat diet.

                >If that worked we wouldn't have a 45% obesity rate in the USA and another 30% being overweight.

                The reason for this is portion control and the sugar/hfcs+fat combo.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Go eat plain boiled potatoes, as many as you want. You will stop eating and "be satisfied" very fast. I struggle to get enough kcal in on a mostly legume, bread and vegetable + some organ meat diet.
                It really is almost impossible to not be lean with whole-foods HCLF

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Keto is mainstream though. It doesn't get any more mainstream.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >obesity is cured by eating less food you fucking retard holy shit
                Eating less food won't satisfy you and will just cause rubber banding. If that worked we wouldn't have a 45% obesity rate in the USA and another 30% being overweight.

                Processed food is hypercaloric and virtually nutritionless. Eating real food however is very satisfying, filled with nutrients, and makes obesity very difficult to achieve.

                >holy shit why do you even stroke the keyboard with your greasy blobby fingers you bloated lardy fat bigger? biggers like you should be banned from using the internet until you reach a healthy weight.

                Why are you spewing this venom? Do you truly hate God's creation so much that you must attack natural foods?

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    used to think atkins/keto was fine but the keto creep in /fat/ convinced me it turns you retarded

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >stupid samefag that posts the same shit every single day.
    Sourdough is allowed for keto. I eat literally a slice every single day (home made) and meet my macro targets.
    Picrel is my latest bake.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    but i leik bread

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand why people don't fast to lose weight. No, I do. They want to keep eating, but this is a only a short-term solution. Most people that lose a lot of weight don't actually fix their compulsive eating habits thus gaining the weight they lost back. You don't fix an eating disorder by eating 2lbs of celery and cucumbers.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    All I know is I get more digestional issues the more grains/plants I eat, I also generally feel more lethargic and "itchy" not sure how to explain it. I get more flatulence and start pooing more. I don't need studies, nor idiots saying what should make me feel better if I have direct experience with how my health is with certain foods, if anyone thinks they can know better through le experts or whatever else you are an oversocialized idiot.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I hate pooping as well. On keto I poop at most once every other week. It is so much better than having to poop every day. I have saved hundreds of dollars on toilet paper just by doing this.

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The ultimate diet redpill is to just try stuff and stick with what gives you good results.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    fuck you
    I got diabeetus from bread

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Type 2 diabetes can be cured by an almost exclusive carb diet such as white rice+fruit, you got T2DM from toxic seed oils and fats that induce metabolic dysfunction

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why are you so obsessed with keto?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      fat redditor upset over the /r/plussize traffic from IST

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Vegans think it kills animals. Leftists in general hate anyone who doesn't do what globohomo wants.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Klaus Schwab: Eat the bugs, live in the pod
        >Ketolards: So you're saying we should eat PLANTS? Never!!!!

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't. I do keto in cycles like you're supposed to. Ate a banana sandwich tonight without fear as I am currently in a cycle where I can enjoy carbs regularly. In fact, I typically eat whatever I want in moderation. Only fatties and people addicted to sugar have to restrict.

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    reading this entire thread and I still don't know whether I should do keto or not, neither side has made a single reasonable/mature argument.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sure why not

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you should eat meat anon
      but bread is also good. so is rice and pasta.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Mussolini said that pasta made italians lazy and lethargic and they lost so war so he clearly knew what he was talking about

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Mussolini also said race doesn't exist

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Can you tell the difference between a moron an an italian?
            Man was a genius

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm the CHADlerposter who really hates OP. If you do lots of cardio and are already lean, don't be afraid to carb up, but always get your protein. Don't listen to the redditor though, if you aren't sonicmaxxing, you don't really have a reason to eat a shitload of potatoes.

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They believe lies.

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I see 4 people (posts more accurately, wouldn't be surprised if it's one guy just constantly crying) seething about keto like it's some sort of widespread problem here for every one guy saying he does keto.
    And no, people saying veganism is retarded generally are not doing keto.

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I just don't know what to fucking think anymore.
    I like having chicken with a cup of rice for meals so I can switch it up from just meat and vegetables every day, but apparently I shouldn't do that, but I should because it's just CICO at the end of the day regardless of method?
    Man this sucks

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Do what works for you. Most of us just hate the vegan redditor for being an annoying redditfag who has keto living rent free in his empty head, most of us don't even do keto.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's weird that anyone can be confused by an argument when one side of the argument are clearly malicious liars.

      Did you get injected with the mRNA pseudo-vaccines? Did you find conversation around those confusing?

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It makes them retain water so they think it makes them fat.

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They need any scapegoat instead of admitting to the obvious fact that americans consume more meat and grease than any other country on the planet. So they perpetuate a lie that everyone in America is a vegan who runs around do ultra marathons while eating nothing but fruit, rice and bread and that's why they're obese. I'm sure you'll never see packs of bacon and crates of eggs in a fat person's fridge.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bacon and eggs. That which humanity has had since time immemorial. And yet it is only recently that massive obesity has occurred. Peculiar

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You really need a history lesson anon. People didn't slaughter their pigs every weekend to watch Saturday morning cartoons. That was like a special event where they'd have the whole community or family gather once a year. The average person didn't have a bunch of laying hens either. Hell most of modern history people were making shitty pancakes out of whatever flour substitutes they had like oat flour and cooking it on a wooden plank next to the fire. Or eating bowls of gruel made out of whatever starch they had handy with some added salt or Hispanices if they were rich.

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is as retarted as one could expect - I am not ketoschizoid but I removed bread from my diet since it's pretty calorie dense - I'd much rather eat something that will fill me up more in exchange. My main issue at this point is that I love tomatoes and onions sandwiches and can't really find a replacement for them. I also cut other things like pasta and focused on unprocessed foods (fruits, meat - like chicken breasts not some sasuages or anything similar, dairy - eggs and low fat milk 0.5%, veggies) - I feel good and am losing +/- 1 kg a week (deficit + I do take long walks nearly everyday, do some lifts every 3 days, and do fasts every friday - still drink coffe and tea though - obviously with water only).
    At the end of the day You can't beat thermodynamics - You must burn more than You get, maybe some foods are different in terms of how they offer Your body the energy they store, and some foods are better to eat than others (drinking a glass of oil instead of eating a balanced steam cooked meal) - but the truth is there is no miracle diet that will change You into a fit person in a month. You've gotta change Your habits and observe what works for You and what doesn't - if it feels wrong, it probably is.

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