Why do people say bodyweight exercises are good when skinny guys can do sets of 50 pullups, pushups, dips etc...

Why do people say bodyweight exercises are good when skinny guys can do sets of 50 pullups, pushups, dips etc... If they were good wouldn't they be growing muscle?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm switching to bodyweight workout because I don't wanna pay for the gym israelite and weights are just a woman thing, but yeah the more you progress the more leaner you get, I do weighted calisthenics and I am way stronger now that when I used to do just weights and I am now 73 kg and I used to be 80.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just get minimal homegym equipment, poorgay

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Stay small chud

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i can muscle up you so hard you will be buried until only your head sticks out

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Did you hear about those zogbots with big muscles and tattoos that got out gunned by skinny Africans in the congo?
        Your body is unnatural

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Weighted calisthenics

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >haha we did it reddit!

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What are your goals tho? For bodybuilding they are suboptimal sure but for general health and fitness they are perfectly alright.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this is a fitness and health board, not a bodybuilding/strongshitting board. if you want advice from people with a breathing frequency of 2 Hz at least stick to /plg/.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this is primarily a bodybuilding board.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Really? Cause they get absolutely shit on anytime someone posts them. This board definitely seems more interested in an optimal/middle of the road fitness goal. What with all the calisthenic/roon threads.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The board is mostly about incel powershitters. All other fitness subcultures have a very limited population on here.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Mmmm really? Cause the rate I see the term powershitter used would indicate otherwise. I can't remember the last time there was a thread for them that wasn't filled with insults.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I built muscle just doing those

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      same. I find that people who talk shit about pullups don't do them right, jerking themselves up and craning their necks to barely get their chin up and then just letting their body fall through the negative. No control, no power, no growth.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    good also includes not getting injured and doing it for life

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I highly doubt you are doing slow, controlled pullups with full ROM for more than 15-20 reps per set. I hate this meme where people act like after a few weeks you will "outgrow" bodyweight exercises. try doing the exercise properly, going all the way down with a pause at the top and bottom, and all of a sudden these guys who say they can do 30+ pullups in a row can actually do more like 12. make them wear a backpack with a bit of weight in it and they struggle to get 5. pretty sure you can grow with those rep ranges.

    skinny people that continue to be skinny after working out didn't stay the same weight because they did too many pullups, they stayed the same weight because they didn't eat enough to grow

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. I live in the ghetto and work out in a park and while there are a handful of calisthenics guys that are very strict with their workouts, most are just skinny guys doing quarter reps of pull ups where they fidget up and down for a few inches.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A+

        Good post!
        Legs are a bit more difficult to build

        I highly doubt you are doing slow, controlled pullups with full ROM for more than 15-20 reps per set. I hate this meme where people act like after a few weeks you will "outgrow" bodyweight exercises. try doing the exercise properly, going all the way down with a pause at the top and bottom, and all of a sudden these guys who say they can do 30+ pullups in a row can actually do more like 12. make them wear a backpack with a bit of weight in it and they struggle to get 5. pretty sure you can grow with those rep ranges.

        skinny people that continue to be skinny after working out didn't stay the same weight because they did too many pullups, they stayed the same weight because they didn't eat enough to grow

        samegay

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fatass

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you live in the HOOD, homie! grove street, foo! represent! sheeeit you got any weed massa?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >pretty sure you can grow with those rep ranges.
      yeah and the most effective way to do so is to lift progressively heavier weights lmao
      bodyweight gays btfo

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A+

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good post!
      Legs are a bit more difficult to build

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >sets of 50 pullups, pushups, dips etc
      it's easy to condition your body like this, it's about speed and endurance with shit form
      now try to do the same with a 50kg weight
      >If they were good wouldn't they be growing muscle?
      because you do weighted calisthenics once you can do dips and pullups for reps
      this has been settled a long time ago, why do people believe that calisthenics == strictly bodyweight? it's literally not

      this

      Calisthenics or body weight exercises are simply a waste of time

      idiot
      calisthenics literally stated it
      the modern version is just using weights with it, keep the goated moves (pullup has no alternatives, king of the back lifts) and dips/pushups, just add weight to overload

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >pullup has no alternatives, king of the back lifts) and dips/pushups, just add weight to overload
        These are very dangerous movements that blow out your shoulders. Adding weight just increases risk and injury

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How the frick are pullups dangerous

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Everything is dangerous when you're a fat frick powerlarder.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >How the frick are pullups dangerous
            shoulder impingement - lat pulls with all it's might turning u into bow in spine therefore ur arms can't go straight up as gravity dictates, but they do = ur shoulder is gonner 😀

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You're fricking moronic & have shit form.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              pullups help with shoulder impingement and shoulder posture. you're a fricking moronic dyel.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                like clockwork bot

                You're fricking moronic & have shit form.

                like clockwork 😀

                no, pullups promote utter fricking garbage posture and as result shit fricking bummed shoulders
                >proofs!
                go watch any cloombing - they are ALL hunched forward
                half of them have strapped shouders xD

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Man, you shit up so many threads. So, you don't bench, you don't OHP, you don't DL, you don't squat. Additionally, you don't do pull ups, dips or anything else. What do you even do, instead of generating traffic here?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you don't squat
                no bot, nobody squats but me, u aren't paying attention, overhead with pvc pipe with extended thoracic, flat footed and pelvis sat between (not behind!) heels, no buttwink either - carfel though, easy to overdo quad this way
                only I squat, nobody else, everybody else is bending like an moron

                >Additionally, you don't do pull ups, dips or anything else.
                yes bottot, everything u shill with ur 1000 fake voices of fake robotized traffic is aimed at fricking humans up, i like me some front lever sometimes when some bar equivalent happens to cross my steps, bot frick no, spamming pullups is not my jam for the past oh, 15 years or so
                >instead of generating traffic here?
                that's u b***h as i've explained above
                >What do you even do
                hypertrophy and posture with healthy dose of cardio, hypertrophy through muscle isolations, usually in static hold which facilitates perfect time under tension every time, almost always by my own invention
                posture and mobility is here:

                cardio is self explanatory, some bike some grass cutting, that's enough, easily 2-3 hours a week

                but core of "working out" is posture and 2-3 isolations that take up to 10 minutes each, i just log isolation (cep, trike, brachialis, chest, abs, side delt, rear delt, calves, quads, hams) and check what is lagging most and it 's usually 3-5 days ago and that's my "workout" every other day or so

                this is chest for example, impingeless, anterior delt-less foolproof u might say:

                [...]

                >cleanest, best way to isolate totality of chest i have found is this:
                >u sit, u spread ur legs a tad, u reach with elbows around mid-thigh, there u compress ur thighs with ur elbows for half a minute

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              A guy who can do sets of 50 pull ups with minimal rest between and good form is for sure tapered and strong as frick. What the hell are you talking about. Guys who dip are too, if to a lesser degree.
              >but they aren’t deadlifting 800 lbs
              Ok you got me.

              This is actually unbelievable. What the frick do you look like for this strange notion to not only occur to you, but to seem reasonable. Maybe I’m just having a stroke and I’m failing to properly parse your text, but idk man I’m genuinely curious what the frick you look like.
              Must be circus tier.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The problem is it starts to become incredibly tedious and fatiguing in the wrong way to truly progress. I’d rather do a set of bench with 120 pound dumbbells and get bigger stronger muscles for less effort than do like 60 pushups to failure for inferior gains and fatigue that will hamper the rest of my workout.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >than do like 60 pushups

        Lmao like you could

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Calisthenics or body weight exercises are simply a waste of time

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      moron

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're not doing it right

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't know rats did pullups.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That rat could still eat you alive though. Prisoners are some of the toughest fighters out there.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't know rats did pullups.

      don't they give you shit food low on protein in prison so you don't become jacked?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The trick is stealing protein from other inmates

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          sounds gay as frick

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Whatever you say twink

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The problem is body weight exercises are generally better for the people who don’t want to do them and worse for the people who do want to do them
    >huge tall guy
    Would rather lift heavy weights because it looks cooler and strokes their ego. Don’t want to get humbled only being able to do 4 real pull-ups and not even being able to do a one arm push up
    >skinny manlet
    Will try to show off doing endless pull-ups. Makes them feel like a big strong man even if their absolute strength remains weak.
    I’m 6’3 226 and I do a decent amount of body weight exercises in my workouts- decline one arm pushups, assisted one armed pull-ups, even pushup supersets. Bodyweight exercises have their place

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >226

      You're either on gear or fat.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    To reiterate what the others have said here, people who shit on calisthenics usually have shit form and completely rush/half rep through the movements. I see it all the time, where some dude warms up or closes with 10 of the shittiest fricking pullups possible. He leaves feeling accomplished, and self-righteous in thinking that pullups or pushups are too easy, but he really did 0 fricking reps because he actually respects the movement or a curl or face pull for whatever reason but doesn't think the same principles apply to bodyweight resistance. 0 of these people seem to be able to do anything like dragon flags, L Sits, handstand pushups, strict muscle ups or one arm pushups but still shit on calisthenics.

    It's old. Calisthenics work. Weights work. Barbells work faster for absolute strength gains. Calisthenics imo are excellent for relative strength gains. Just do what you enjoy and can stay consistent with.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Of a curl*

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The entire online fitness industry/community is full of bullshit

    I get better results doing cables pulldowns than I ever did doing weighted pullups

    I get better results doing leg press than I ever did doing back squats with a barbell

    I get better results doing incline dumbbell press than I ever did doing a flat barbell bench

    If you lift long enough and try new shit you'll figure out all the only science homosexualry and min-maxing keyboard lifters are all wrong about everything

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Currently unemployed and have been doing several sets of sub-max pullups, dips and pushups throughout the day. Is there any benefit to this or should I go to failure on all sets?

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they absolutely cannot and those who can do a lot of pull ups have very small frames and their specifc muscles required for pull ups are relatively reasonably developed. Of course their legs wont be big from pull ups so they wont look like a bodybuilder. Or chest whatever muscles that dont get worked

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's heavyweights that do calisthenics on YouTube and they have their own channels. A lot of them do gymnastics too. Posts like this are the biggest cope from weightlifters. Making any excuses to do an actual real world movement that's hard. Just admit from the years of destroying your body with heavy weights you no longer have any tendons and ligaments to support your grinded joints to do an full rom pullup or dip.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can I use those bands for assisting pullups?

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you can do sets of 50 pull ups and dips, you WILL be muscular.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you mean 50 reps total then you are dyel as frick.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean several sets of clean pull ups and push ups with 50 reps each.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Although that would be very impressive to do clean 50 reps per set, that is an absolute waste of time

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        t. powershitter

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >youre a powershitter if you think this is low volume
          this is the most ass backwards argument

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He clearly said sets of 50

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It would be a huge waste of time to keep increasing volume and never the weight when doing calisthenics. I used to do this where I would be doing 5 sets of 75 pushups. Although my triceps got some good size from this, it was an absolute waste of time over just adding more weight onto my chest.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"look at that Elephant, I'm stronger and fitter because I can do pullups and he can't"

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >undergrip
    moronic, overgrip is superior in every way.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why not both?

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    rolling.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bro just do weights and bodyweight exercises if you have time to post in here you have time to do some pull ups...

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >skinny guys can do sets of 50 pullups
    Okay, now show me your average powerlifter who can do 50 pull-ups. That's why.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do people think you have to grind out reps to do calisthenics? Nobody thinks you do that with weights.. You know there are harder pushup and pullup variations?

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bodyweight exercises are challenging for people who are heavier, especially for beginners. Let's face it. There are many beginners who are not strong enough to do pull ups and chin ups.
    >skinny guys
    They are very light weight with proportionally strong backs. To solve this problem, do them weighted.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Calisthenics are better for new people. I mean, imagine being a literal twig with no muscles, weak tendons and shit like that. By lifting weights, nothing changes visually. You just lift bigger and heavier stuff. But when it comes to pull-ups? First you do sissy version, then normal, then switch to more complicated versions. You are very gently building up your muscles and connective tissue AND having fun on top of it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >By lifting weights, nothing changes visually
      >No, nothing changed even though you got more muscular and the weight on the bar looks larger too
      >working out needs to be fun!
      lmao this dude is gay as frick

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's not what i meant, moron. At the end of the day, you are still "just" lifting weights instead of doing something completely different. Look at these variations. Every single of them looks and feels unique.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Every single of them looks and feels unique
          same with every exercise in general you moron lmaooo. working out needs to be fun!!!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You do understand the meaning of training is to get good at 1 thing right? If you have the need to constantly change your routine then you're never going to go beyond beginner level

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You train to train, to feel the burn.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Im talking about process itself. You are purging the weakness out of your mind by exercising.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Conjugatechads win again

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If your goal is to lift heavy weight and have big muscles, they're not very good.
    If you're goal is to live an active lifestyle and not snap your shit up while doing it they're great

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >50 pull-ups
    You're just as capable if you're kipping, too.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Im 150lbs at 6'2 and on my back day I do 100 pull ups in an hour usually, fully extended arms and small pause at the top. Honestly its really annoying and takes forever, also later that same day I can go out and do more pull ups after resting a little while, which seems like I shouldn't be able to do that if I just did really heavy lat pull downs instead. The problem with the bodyweight shit is you eventually end up having to do 500 push ups and 100 pull ups and fricking 500 body squats its way too time consuming because you cant rush it with shitty form

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What am I doing wrong? I started working out last year with one goal: to be able to do one muscle up. I started from DYEL 56kg scrub who couldn't do a pull up, to 70kg DYEL scrub who could do 12 pull ups to 75kg DYEL scrub who can do 9 pull ups if the wind blows my way. At no point was I able to perform a single muscle up. I tried the muscle up helping myself with a 15kg resistance band and still couldn't do it. I did this every day:
    - Ate 500kcal surplus
    - Ate 155g of protein a day
    - Ate creatine
    - Worked out 3 days out of the week doing 3 reps of pullups, 3 reps of pushups, 3 reps of dips and 3 reps of crunches. At some point even managed 4 weighted pullups with 12kg.
    Pls help

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Post body with a newspaper with todays date you obese piece of shit.

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