Why do some people hate running so much? Like they slander it with ''lowers test'' ''it kills your gains'' ''premature death'' etc
Running is literally as natural of a training style you can get, it's good for you, and it feels good, why is it so tribalistic? Either it's all weights or all cardio, can't you enjoy both?
>cant you enjoy both
Youre not allowed to enjoy anything
True that, people hate people who enjoy things
I know I do.
No one actually enjoys running. For you to enjoy it there must be a PURPOSE. For example playing footy or pickup basketball where the running has a point, where you compete to score goals and win. Just aimlessly running in circles is cringe as fuck and autistic.
To go to a far place, or to go faster than other people
You can't win though. I need the instant gratification of winning which I get by playing footy in the park. People would enjoy cardio if it was promoted as a masculine group competitive thing via sports more so than a boring solo gruel.
I hated cardio for so long because I though the only way was boring running alone.
it's not necessary if all you want to do is build muscle, that's all
What about active recovery, like jogging or hill sprints?
Based and holisticpilled
Exercise increases blood flow and increases recovery rates manifesting over (even a short) time as desire to lift more weights (no soreness) and significant gains. It also helps skelebros to work up a healthy appetite because 300 calories from running adds 600 calories of appetite (semi-arbitrary numbers yes). I took up walking, biking and running so I could eat more for weightlifting and it worked.
> more fresh blood full of nutrients per time unit
> more resources for the body to build muscle and recover more quickly
I like running almost as much as I hate women. And I really hate women.
>Why do some people hate running so much?
Because they hyperventilate after climbing a flight of stairs.
>''lowers test'' ''it kills your gains'' ''premature death''
Who the fuck says this?
Humans are fucking pursuit predators. Running is our main "thing".
Just listen to anyone on fit, or the misc
I only come here like once per month to laugh at dumb meat heads. I would go insane if i listened to what people here have to say.
anon nobody lifts here
You need to come here and observe more often if you think the people here meat heads or anything closrle to one. This weakling town gay.
>taking anything here seriously
>just listen to retards
no thank you
True, if 25% of the board chooses to be vocally retarded It doesn’t mean the rest agree. In fact some might say ignoring a retard entirely is a proof of intelligence.
there are studies that indicate that prolonged exertion of steady-state cardio - like 45min+ - spike cortisol and lower test.
no i don't feel like finding them b/c i don't care.
no idea if that lowers test long term or just following exercise. i do cardio anyway a few times a week
I don’t give a fuck about what some gnomish study says, running for prolonged periods of times gives me the most blissful state of runners high I’ve ever experienced in my life. I’m gonna keep doing it because it makes me feel confident and good about myself. I honestly enjoy running a lot more than lifting but I still try to do both
It's just not as necessary as people think. Long distance running can be done only once a week and you'll get the benefits instead of killing yourself everyday.
Eating right and sleep is more important.
Yea, we walked our prey down to death usually after shooting it. We didn't jog for 40+ minutes 6 days a week. If anything sprinting for short periods of time once in a while is more natural. There are still Black tribes in Africa that remain sedentary all day, kill something when they need to, and walk back to camp. They're still shredded because of their diet alone. Expending energy when you don't need to is retarded. Lions doesn't even do it.
>we walked our prey down to death usually after shooting it.
wrong. we mogged down our prey in a running contest until they literally died from running. or a pack of humans runs and herds preys towards a cliff and they throw themselves down. humans start outrunning most horses at +50km distance. I vaguely remember watching some documentary about a tribe somewhere, where if the hunters fail to take their shot, their backup plan, the runners come and chase them down to death. it was said like their runners claimed they can run an entire day or something.
>Why do some people hate running so much?
Because I suck, my sprints have always been far above average ever since I was a child but longer distance running makes me want to kms.
I tried running when I was overweight, underweight and fit, I got the runner's high only twice so I can see why so many people love it but chasing that dragon is not for me.
i just don't like it
would rather bike or swim
Most importantly, who the f take photo like this?
foids and twinks
>it feels good
it really doesn't if you are just running for the sake of running.
It does, the endorphines, the feel of everything in slow motion afterwards, the record pushing, the fresh air
It's boring. You're gay
I like it. I like leg days too
It's a matter of priorities
The guy who lifts just to look good in pictures isn't motivated by anything inconHispanicuous. Therefore the exercise to him is useless suffering
True, Im big and strong so I can deal with problems, not training to be able to be better at running from problems.
morones like running
it's fucking boring.
rather go rock climbing.
That’s a man isn’t it
I do enjoy both, but running is shit, give me a bicycle any day
It's literally just cope by fatasses. I used to run regularly but I stopped once the weather went to shit and also because I wanted to focus more on lifting. I want to start up again in the spring.
They’re traumatized because they had to run the mile in PE and it made them uncomfortable for a few minutes. The way we teach running in this country is stupid, they shouldn’t be asking kids who have been playing video games up until age 12 to get up and run as fast as the can once a week and stressing them out by grading them on it, all it does is turn them off from running for life once they’re out of high school. Pic related, easy run this morning.
It made sense when it was implemented because kids went into their teenage years with a baseline of fitness that kids these days don’t have. I don’t blame the kids, it’s their parents who prefer to keep them inside.
>avg heart rate: 163 for over an hour
Damn, I just got cardio-mogged into oblivion.
Haha, my heart rate goes high naturally. I wore a Zio Patch for a month a few months ago and the doctor said my high heart rate variability was just due to age.
Bitch, it feels easy. I had a conversation with a buddy the entire time we were running. My HR is just high when I run. Another reason the HR method of monitoring your run is stupid, it varies by person.
163 is 75-79% heartrate perfectly attainable if youre training for a sub 22 5k.
This but with tendonitis. I just walk a few miles everyday instead.
Running by a SEAL base wont make you a SEAL
SEALs are liars who can’t wait to get out of the SEALs to become media personalities, I’d know because you meet a lot of them in San Diego. I’d never want to be a SEAL.
I feel this. I did this today. 5 miles pretty hard terrain trail running the mountains in Tucson Arizona. I've never really gotten into road running but out in nature it's a high. In school I hated running. Turns out it was just the setting and the routine.
There's something to be said about holding a pace and the mental drain of trying to chose a path over jagged rocks. Holding that pace through elevation changes. I'm an ex alcoholic so I just get hooked to shit immediately kek
I love it when someone else drops one of my personal theories. Never know if other people are noticing this stuff. Like reading, learning, philosophy, music, art, and thinking - running is ruined by public schooling. Intentionally. They remove the joy of a thing by replacing it with a reward/fail state, a due date, and they thus associate it with anxiety. People obligingly hate it until something jars the drone mindset loose.
SD bros on my IST? La Jolla here, reporting for duty
Running is essential. But most people equate running with jogging which is garbage shit.
HIT is what got me into running again. I've found that after a certain point I fail my lifts for lack of breath and make zero muscle gains until it's resolved. What's the most direct way to myself oxygenate harder? I'm gonna run but it's supplemental to my lifting. I'm not trying to "become a runner". I just want to do what works and then fuck off.
That’s why I do a bro split. Putting together a weekly routine that hits every muscle group and has a couple days of cardio training works great for me. running is a great way to cut and sculpt the gains from lifting. Plus the aesthetics are better for men combing the two for lower body. You don’t get t-rex sized legs but you don’t get chicken legs either. You just have to keep the mileage down to less than 10 miles/week and not sperg out on squats so you stay relatively fresh for the next leg day or run. And running is all women need to look fit. A runners ass looks much better than some fat bloated squat ass and cellulite thighs
maybe if they're doing sprints. most skinny women runners i've seen have a pancake ass
I get bored
I don't hate cardio just running in particular
Biking, swimming, hiking, etc are fun
I enjoy weightlifting, and I do cardio (chad indoor rower), although I wouldn't say I "enjoy" it, but running is pretty homosexual. Imagine doing something that just fucks up your joints and has like the lowest return on calories burned or cardiovascular improvement, lmao. Make sure you get yourself some of those shoes that change your natural gait, and softens the repetitive impact of such a shitty form of exercise.
>Make sure you get yourself some of those shoes that change your natural gait, and softens the repetitive impact of such a shitty form of exercise.
I just don't like cardio
Because the people here just want to get huge, not have endurance or be functionally fit.
It's the most easiest way to fuck you up. You don't need any equipment and can do it whenever you feel like it
Because they don't take any joy in it. The only way i enjoy running is barefoot, in a forest with soft hemlock needles underfoot. Otherwise, it's a mindnumbingly boring way to destroy my joints
Long-distance running leads to a trash physique.
I don't care about any of this. I just love to run. Long, easy runs whatever the weather. With a head torch. Whatever. I just love being out plodding along seeing animals, watching the weather, running through forests, in the hills, along country lanes. I love to run!
My theory is that while strength and power training is easy since it only lasts for a few seconds. Good running and cardio takes much longer and therefore more prone to psychological fatigue. It's easier to get distracted, it's easier to get discouraged. Same with all high rep exercises.
When you start lifting your first rep you have maximum energy and therefore confidence. However as you pull out more reps you find yourself slowly lowering and your body begins to tire and stiffen up. You either need to ration your energy reserves better, or you need to willpower it through. The latter always fails.
A little cardio never hurt anyone. I've always held the opinion that the difference between a fat person and a fit/healthy person is if they can reliably move the mass they have. Mobility and flexibility is the real target here.
want to squirt into vagin
I think I was way too self conscious as a kid. I was terrible at it (possibly due to low level asthma) basically always came last (apart from the fat kid, although I was chubby) and so I avoided it. I'm just wrapping up c25k in my early 30's and its been great, I want to incorporate some HIIT once I finish, I'm already running 5k though. I've dropped my blood pressure 30 points too.
Ha pieface you sack of lard get those reps in
I was chubby as a kid, I got lean in my early 20's
Did mommy shove goyslop and McDs down your throat as a kid to pass that off as dinner? I bet you were one of those shitass kids that screamed for a happy meal, huh tubs?
Because its actually hard. Lifting is easy, thats why ISTners can do it
Have you earned that opinion or would you just totally be huge if you wanted to trust me bro?
I hate it because I always get shin splints, no matter how fucking slow I go.
Is it bad for a dude to look just like that?
It really depends on your goals. Most powerlifters only care about the number they're lifting. Bodybuilders only care about the size of their muscle.
Running doesn't really do anything for either one of those two sports, unless you want to make the argument about lung capacity or whatever but that's strawmanning.
For genuine fitness, running or some form of intense cardio is mandatory and always will be in humans. But I like to do the best of both worlds. During the winters I bulk, do very little cardio, lift heavy and gain muscle. When the weather gets better, I start my cuts and start focusing on cardio and endurance over weightlifting.
The end result is pretty good
>The end result is pretty good
Ok post fizeek
It's winter and I'm on a bulk, no way Jose
But I can OHP 70kg, bench 100kg, and squat 140kg @ 85kg BW and like 20% BF
Cut and once I start cardio it I'll be down to 75kg BW, then I can post physique if these kinda running threads are still around
>Lift weights to complement
>Strong but no staying power sparring
>Start doing 3 mile runs in sub 23 min. 3 times a week
>Soon no longer out of breath during the heavy half hour warmup before each training
>Now not even sweating while all but the actively competing black belts in our team are completely drenched
Feels good to mog endurancelets. I love running.
>tires you out much faster
>stimulates your hamstrings and calf muscles
>out in the nature, away from normalfags
>running on flat terrain feels stupidly easy afterwards
For me it's uphill running.
I don't enjoy running. I enjoy lifting, I enjoy swimming, I enjoy cycling as long as it's not stationary. I enjoy sports and doing things. Jogging around a track, path, neighborhood, treadmill, I just dislike it.
>oh you must just suck at it
My fastest mile run years ago was 6 minutes. I'm not sure what that qualifies as in terms of terrible or okay. I don't have a distance runner body for sure, and it does not and never has felt good. Sprinting feels good for a while but not longer distance running.I don't care if someone else feels differently, good for them, but I choose not to run. I do cardio pretty much any other way, my favorite is vigorously fucking my wife from behind.
I don't know if it's true but my theory is that when people don't enjoy something they'll also find reasons for why you shouldn't enjoy it.
I especially think this is true when it comes to food.
i do both weights and running. running is harder but it has more SOVL. lifting is just fun
Because there's an art to running and not everyone understands how to do it properly; which tends to lead to injury, and it happens enough that bad knowledge prevails.
To get good at running, you have to get good at walking first. Build up some basic stamina/endurance to the activity. Go for a 30m walk every day. Do this until you can comfortably walk 3-5 miles a day. Then, learn to jog and do 1/10th that. Then jog 1/5th that. Then jog 1/2th that and so on until you can jog 3-5 miles a day.
This is just an example, but there's a method to the madness and the results aren't immediate and visible. Plus, the lack of being in shape and having a good cardiovascular system, ends up being a huge turn off. The difficulty curve spikes obscenely from the first five minutes and the propensity to give up and just not do it again, goes with it.
tl;dr: people don't know how to and simply going on a run with no training or knowledge is a recipe for motivational and disciplinary disaster.
I have no idea how to pace myself I always end up going as fast as I can on the treadmill and then I'm too exhausted to do anything else so my whole day suffers.
>it feels good
Even when I was young and played sports I hated running it doesn't feel good at all lol