why do women worry about parts of their appearance that no one cares about, that are hard to change, while ignoring the things men do care about that they can change?
Sometimes I go on reddit and read what women actually find attractive in themselves and men. I will say that it has helped me some because it has made me realize that model level men and women feel their ugly.
But I often see women that hate their noses, hate their chins, want smaller breasts, etc, but they never talk about losing weight or getting in shape. I even saw one about Abbey asking if guys just care about tit size, saying Abbey was ugly.
Women really don't get it. If we can be honest for a second and not talk in memes, men don't really care about noses and chins on women. Its literally all about the hip to waist ratio. Thats it.
People are paying to have their noses broken and plastic put in their chin when all they would really have to do is lose weight.
Why are women like this?
cancer aids Black person homosexual ballsack israelite destroyer.
Just date men since you hate women
didn't read your post btw lol
dude, I want women to stop getting plastic surgery and to instead lose weight and work out. How do I hate women?
Women are vain beings. Plastic surgery is a vain pursuit. Hating plastic surgery means you hate women. Not hard to follow
Looks like a troony
Did she get plastic surgery?
>Did she get plastic surgery?
not to my knowledge. Sounds like mia khalifa did in 2020 or 21 though :/
>dude
You're a fed
seriously, no one rejected mia for her nose
ass so good his face glitches out of this reality
Sauce me senpai
Is that supossed to be Ben Shapiro or Nick Fuentes.
>Dain smiled slightly. “There is a way of testing them,” he said. “They cannot hold one shape for longer than three full days. If you observe a Grade Two Ol, and never let it out of your sight, there will come a moment when it loses control and its shape begins to change and waver. We call this moment the Tremor. It does not last long. In seconds the Ol has regained control. But by that time, you know it for what it is.”
I was warned of this
Based and Deltora-pilled
Maybe you can help
I am working on the idea that each of the Guardians represents one of the seven sins, and the gems are the antidote to that sin
Gorl / envy / faith
Soldeen / wrath / happiness
Reeah / pride / hope
Shifting Sands / greed / fortune
Gellick / gluttony / honour
Glus / sloth / truth
Fardeep / lust / strength
But I'm not sure about Fardeep and Reeah, because Valley of the Lost specifically mentions pride as being Fardeep's downfall, and hope seems to suit lust and strength pride better than the other way around. On the other hand, the diamond's description also mentions innocence and purity, and Reeah is certainly proud to the point of hubris. Perhaps lust has been changed to hate?
that is a man, isnt it?
It's a deepfake of some onlyfans prostitute
Holy frick I desperately want to spend my time licking a girls ass and pussy
I would literally sit there and lick it all night
I'm extremely anti-Semitic but I'd convert for her bros....
impregnate her than leave for dubaiAFTER THE BABY IS BORN, convert to islam and youtube hate the joos all day long
Surgery requires no effort, losing weight and working out does.
>Surgery requires no effort, losing weight and working out does.
why not just get the fat taken out of the middle and put into their ass and hips then? Would it really kill them to admit that it isn't their face but all their fat being in the wrong places?
Bro...
That's exactly what a Brazilian butt lift is
>get the fat taken out of the middle and put into their ass and hips then
This is a common procedure nowadays.
But guess what? The b***hes don't learn how to control their eating and just get fat again.
Black person just get laid please
Women are really dumb and consistently act against their own self interests
Example
>woman: yeah I've been scared and threatened so many times I walk holding my keys in my fingers and always tell a girlfriend where I'm going and what time I'll be back because as a woman I'm in constant danger from evil men
>same woman: guns need to be banned, nobody should own a gun!
I've been trying to find the universal theme underlying their moronicness and I think it's something to do with avoiding taking responsibility but it's tough
>think it's something to do with avoiding taking responsibility but it's tough
hhmm. It might not be so much that they want to avoid responsibility as they are not wired to have responsibility and are instead wired to get others to act on their behalf.
if you watch media aimed at men and women, male media tends to have a hero or heros that get what they want via their own actions. While woman media tends to have a main character build relationships and they get what they want via those relationships.
which makes sense. They've only had freedom for so long. 2000 years ago they had to talk their husbands and sons into doing shit to get anything they wanted.
BUT this doesn't explain why women obess over having half their nose removed when they could just get in shape and improve their hip to waist ratio.
No one is not going to frick Mia or Abbey because of their noses. Its stupid.
>*votes against putting more violent low iq men in prison*
>why are (violent low iq) men harassing me? must be because they are men
Are you questioning their decision making. Yikes sweaty, looking like an incel
I don't really understand why women vote for culture changes, as if the the fricking government can change the ideals of the people. They think rapes go away by telling men rape is bad and vote for policies that enable rapist like gun control or anything pro immigration. My opinion is they're just naive. They think bad guys can be defeated with the power of heart or some cartoon shit lol
>I don't really understand why women vote for culture changes, as if the the fricking government can change the ideals of the people. They think rapes go away by telling men rape is bad and vote for policies that enable rapist like gun control or anything pro immigration. My opinion is they're just naive. They think bad guys can be defeated with the power of heart or some cartoon shit lol
traditionally women got what they wanted by getting men and older women to act on their behalf. Men could just go out and get what they wanted via their own labor, skills, etc. Men could get what they wanted via social connections but it wasn't as necessary as it was with women.
Women don't realize they're still trapped in their old oppressed mentality. The door to the cave is open but they're still in their looking at the paintings on the wall.
>Women don't realize they're still trapped in their old oppressed mentality
on the other hand, why would they want to change anything about the situation? they get to be the eternal victim and whine while getting more and more gibs
it's not like most of them realize that makes their societies and men weaker (and less attractive)
and even the ones that do realize that putting women in men's shoes for many tasks makes them unhappier, can't do much about it since the tribe would viciously attack and ostracize them for not conforming, unless they can migrate to another tribe with beliefs closer to theirs
see
>They think rapes go away by telling men rape is bad
Yeah, this line of thinking is very common, not just with women but quite a few men too.
It's just strange, some people seem to just refuse to believe that there's truly evil people out there that literally do not care they just raped someone.
>They think bad guys can be defeated with the power of heart or some cartoon shit lol
This so fricking much. Just this Christmas my sister came over and the convo led to this kind of topic. The way she was so baffled that people will do bad things even if you tell them not to was insane.
>you can't just say, "don't do bad thing" became people will still do it
>yeah well if its ilegal then guys won't do it anymore
And we kept going full circle for like 30 minutes.
women don't care what "men" think of them, if anything, they're only concerned with chads (or just high status men in general)
what they genuinely care about is how other women see them and how to they place against them in their own 'contests' that probably don't involve you at all
learn these simple facts and stop thinking so much about women
pic rel is you once you internalize this shit and learn how to live with it
>they're only concerned with chads (or just high status men in general)
chads don't give a shit about noses, chin implants, breasts being too big, etc. They care about hip to waist ratio just like most other men.
They'll knock up a woman with a nice ass and a giant nose just like they will knock up a woman with a nice ass and small nose.
The fact that women can grow such giant honkers is proof of this. Apes and other primates don't have giant noses. Human women can have them because it isn't an obstacle to having babies. Men don't care.
The solution for women is to literally put down the fork and be a little active
>hurr durr chad cares about what I care about
Yeah, nice self insert + projection, moron. Go write a manga where you're the main character.
>hurr durr chad cares about what I care about
ok ding dong, you tell me what chad cares about if it isn't waist to hip ratio, not being fat and breast size.
I don't give a frick about what other men think about you absolute homosexual. Imagine obsessing about some make-believe archetype born out of shitposting. Fricking have a nice day, seriously.
>I don't give a frick about what other men think about you absolute homosexual. Imagine obsessing about some make-believe archetype born out of shitposting. Fricking have a nice day, seriously.
why bring up what chads want then?
this, homies don't realize women do the same dumb shit we do - intrasexual competition and being psyopped by ~~*media*~~ about what they should be thinking about
>intrasexual competition and being psyopped by ~~*media*~~ about what they should be thinking about
I don't think the anon you are responding to is as smart of you.
I will agree some of it is a psyop by the wealthy. Surgeons make a lot of money cutting on bodies. Women should know they are being conned. The surgeon tells one woman she will be sexy if she gets large fake breasts and tells another she will be sexy if she cuts all her breasts off. How can both be true? It obviously can't. The only constant is the surgeon gets paid by both women.
>The surgeon tells one woman she will be sexy if she gets large fake breasts and tells another she will be sexy if she cuts all her breasts off. How can both be true? It obviously can't
tbf those are somewhat different scenarios, assuming there's chicks on different points of the DFC/bimbo spectrum (with varying amounts of insecurity), and assuming there's a goldilocks zone for tit size
which is probably still oversimplified, assuming that big fat tiddy pain can be removed for most women via them stopping being lazy skinnyfat slobs with horrible habits
but I'm just pulling stuff out my ass, tbhonky
Women lack discipline and will always look for any kind of shortcut to avoid exertion. Women RARELY ascend past the basic animal instinct of seeking pleasure and avoiding pain because in the current dating market they don't need to be enlightened to pass on their genes.
With that mindset, why wouldn't you simply pay someone to make you "prettier" instead of working hard for it?
The real problem is perpetuated by the weakness of modern men and their low standards. Ironically and paradoxically it's men's fault that modern women are so pathetic.
As a femanon, women care about:
>Noses
Because a big nose grabs away attention from the eyes and lips which are the most important features on the face. Big noses also look too masculine on women.
>Chins
Side profile
>Smaller breasts
Bigger breasts hurts your back
Do some fricking chin-ups.
Or at least facepulls.
>Because a big nose grabs away attention from the eyes and lips which are the most important features on the face. Big noses also look too masculine on women.
lol, nah.
Big noses draw attention to your eyes and mouth. When you smile, your nose scrunches a bit and forms lines on both sides of the nostrils. Its cute. Its a whole package deal. Men are not looking at your eyes and mouth in isolation much. And if they do, they'll ignore your nose regardless of size. If a man can ignore your whole head for a nice butt, they can ignore a nose for eyes and a smile.
>Side profile
Here is the thing. You don't know what makes woman's side profile feminine. No idea. Men do not like pointy chins. They do not like mannish chins that stick out past the lips. Go look at a halloween witch. big chin. Now go look at tinkerbell or a Disney princess. Tinkerbell has almost no chin. Or look at which chins men think are feminine on men...recessed chins.
All these women getting chin implants to make theirs stick out further are nuts. It just makes them look older and more masculine.
breasts
>Bigger breasts hurts your back
bigger breasts make your more attractive. Do some pull ups to strengthen your back.
It's mostly to look better than other women.
>Big noses draw attention to your eyes and mouth.
No, you don't want your nose to be the first thing that people notice on your face as a woman. You want your lips or eyes to be the first thing that people notice, this is why women use makeup to enhance the eyes and lips, not the nose.
>All these women getting chin implants to make theirs stick out further are nuts. It just makes them look older and more masculine.
Most women want to go for the Angelina Jolie or Anne Hathaway look, they don't get big chin implants.
>Do some pull ups to strengthen your back.
Working out also hurts with big breasts even if you wear a sports bra, it's much easier to get a reduction.
>>Big noses draw attention to your eyes and mouth.
>No, you don't want your nose to be the first thing that people notice on your face as a woman. You want your lips or eyes to be the first thing that people notice, this is why women use makeup to enhance the eyes and lips, not the nose.
if someone likes how you look, they'll see your smile and eyes first regardless of nose size
>>All these women getting chin implants to make theirs stick out further are nuts. It just makes them look older and more masculine.
>Most women want to go for the Angelina Jolie or Anne Hathaway look, they don't get big chin implants.
AJ's chin sticks out past her lips and is probably her worst facial feature.
>>Do some pull ups to strengthen your back.
>Working out also hurts with big breasts even if you wear a sports bra, it's much easier to get a reduction.
weight training doesn't hurt with big breasts. Running and jumping jacks does. You can cut both. If you really want to do cardio, trying swimming or bike riding. But cardio doesn't make you skinny. Watching your diet does.
You've answered everything in your last sentence though. Its because all this shit is easy. Nose jobs and chin implants are cheaper and easier than getting in shape and eating right. Also a smaller fix than having all the fat from your gut put into your ass and hips to improve your hip waste ratio.
>Anne Hathaway
Anne was prettier before the nose job
>Aggressive mimicry
they are getting too good at it
>if someone likes how you look, they'll see your smile and eyes first regardless of nose size
Fair point
>AJ's chin sticks out past her lips and is probably her worst facial feature.
Most women like that about Angelina, she wasn't born with that chin, she got surgery to get it.
> Nose jobs and chin implants are cheaper and easier than getting in shape and eating right.
Easier yes, definitely not cheaper though.
> Also a smaller fix than having all the fat from your gut put into your ass and hips to improve your hip waste ratio.
Yes, ultimately waist to hip ratio is definitely more important than chin or nose but if you get a lipo there's a chance that you'll look like Julia Fox in your stomach region which most women definitely don't want.
I think she looks better after but everyone likes different things.
All I'm learning from this is that women are idiots. Men can literally tell you what men want and other men can openly agree and you'll still say they're wrong and you know better what men want. The absolute fricking hubris.
>>AJ's chin sticks out past her lips and is probably her worst facial feature.
>Most women like that about Angelina, she wasn't born with that chin, she got surgery to get it.
yes and it makes no sense. It isn't attractive for women to have chins that stick out so far. It makes them look old and masculine. How can they want to break and remove parts of their nose because it is "masculine" only to make their chin more masculine?
Just another anon here to remind you that Ann and Angelina both look worse after plastic surgery as do pretty much all women who are surgically altered.
>Just another anon here to remind you that Ann and Angelina both look worse after plastic surgery as do pretty much all women who are surgically altered.
women can't understand. They've been brainwashed by fashion mags, movies, influencers etc. They all want to look like the same unattainable skinny unremarkable white woman. Thats the whole point of fashion mags. to create something unataianble and yet feels unatainable.
You can't even blame the gays because they think Madonna, lady gaga, even lady starlight are hot and they're pretty normal looking women.
No, women want to look very bland and unattractive. Like Jennifer Lawrence and Kristen Stewart. The kind of women no man daydreams about
this is literal the face most women dream of having. Stupid.
Face is mediocre but pussy is primo. Both are overshadowed by the fact she's utterly moronic
>Face is mediocre but pussy is primo.
oddly enough, women don't really worry about their pussies. spend thousands to look as bland as possible, then have a vegana that looks like arbies. Women are so fricking weird.
Nah homos and incels and hollywood is on their own weird shit
In reality, women just exist as a fact of nature, and every living person today exists because a man and a woman reproduced successfully
That's it, your monkey brain says reproduce, you see woman, monkey brain activates, make babies, everyone dies eventually and life goes on
It's truly mind boggling. If men just wanted to frick some forgettable thing all men would just buy a sex doll. I can think of nothing that is a bigger turnoff than a woman destroying what makes her uniquely beautiful just to look more socially acceptable.
You're right about anything besides the chin thing. Recessed chins aren't attractive on anyone. Girls with nice jaws and chin are hot
Quit LARPing as a woman
Not LARP, actual bio woman, trannies disgust me. I'm on IST because I like looking at the /cbt/ thread.
Why do American women have an obsession with breast reductions?
I'm not american
Bullshit.
I'm not
>My back hurts, how should I solve this problem?
>I could do some back strengthening exercises a few times per week and take responsibility for my well-being, or I can pay a doctor to cut my breasts off and continue being a lazy cow.
>I'm gonna do the second one, the first option is way too much work.
>Why do American women have an obsession with breast reductions?
the long answer is probably American womens hatred for being forced to grow up. They had a pretty good childhood and being american just had everything given to them. Then that was stolen away by puberty. The boys around them start to find them attractive and have expectations for them. Their parents start to expect them to work harder in school and get ready to get a job or become a mom. Work or a husband start to expect labor from them.
It all started with the breasts. For whatever reason they don't also blame the hips and ass. I guess because they could have a fat butt as a fat kid. Or maybe because men also can have fat butts.
Regardless, breasts are seen as this evil thing that stole their innocence and cast them out of the easy life of child.
They would never dream of embracing their sexuality or adult womanhood. They will never embrace making their body into a strong adult body that can carry the weight of being an adult woman.
refusing to commit any actions of their own to improve their lot is part of the point. Its a rejection of an adulthood they did not ask for.
women want them because models have small breasts so they can't fit into most expensive clothing brands since all their shit is made for models
It's sloth.
Basically every one that gets a reduction is overweight and sedentary. These are low IQ women who wouldn't even be a B cup without fat. They don't want to admit their health problems are because of their laziness so they pretend their chest is the cause of their back pain. Also they constantly get hit on by desperate incels who wouldn't dare suggest she's their last pick, so of course women like that are delusional.
You'd rather ruin yourself than deal with a few months of pain so you can strengthen your back to the point where it doesn't hurt anymore, AND you'd get to keep your bigger breasts. Women.
>You'd rather ruin yourself than deal with a few months of pain so you can strengthen your back to the point where it doesn't hurt anymore, AND you'd get to keep your bigger breasts. Women.
most women never consider weight training. Exercise is just running and the stair machine. Most don't even ride bikes.
Its also part of why so many of them turn into frail little old ladies. They just don't consider weight training. It doesn't exist. They can barely comprehend the amount of work and weight training hot guys have to do.
And if they do know? They think they're going to get big like arnold with a wig. They don't know that their body doesn't produce enough T to every make them swole
>Working out also hurts with big breasts even if you wear a sports bra, it's much easier to get a reduction
>it's much easier to irreversibly frick up my body than to do a bit more research and figure out that core/back strengthening can be done with isometrics that won't trigger big tit pain
I mean it's effective, your moronation is the best bait for men to come and try to solve your problems in a less moronic way
women are the living embodiment Cunningham's Law irl
>the living embodiment of* Cunningham's Law irl
that's what editing without proofreading gets me
Angelina Jolie looks bad and her brain is moronic. You should look away from her, not up to her.
Lmao how are women so consistently wrong but also so incredibly confident that they're right?
You asked why women don't like those features and I explained why. I don't know how that makes me an idiot and wrong.
I didn't ask anything, I'm just an observer who's been reading the thread. I think it's hilarious (in a pathetic way) how women think they know what men like to the point where they refuse to accept when men directly tell them otherwise.
>Bigger breasts hurts your back
if you're an unfit sedentary frick
Post breasts or gtfo
As a femanon, I don't care about the stuff I can't change. Hair, skin, clothes, weight, and scent are all fair game, but I'm not going to spend time worrying about my nose or something equally dumb
I hate that I'm vain. I wish I didn't care about this stuff, but I want to look good
Proof that women aren’t trying to be attractive for mating purposes. It’s just narcissism.
Women don’t do shit for men to notice them
Men notice every available thing
Women act to look and feel superior in the eyes of other women, it’s a “I know it’s a sick mindgame and I’ll never admit to myself and others that I play it too, but I’m better at it than other women” kind of thing
>Women act to look and feel superior in the eyes of other women, it’s a “I know it’s a sick mindgame and I’ll never admit to myself and others that I play it too, but I’m better at it than other women” kind of thing
if men do not factor into this, then by what criteria do they use?
one anon said big noses on women make them look masculine. But then they get work on their chins and jaws to make them more masculine. Or cut off their breasts, also making them more masculine.
taken at face value, it looks like they are competing to see who can look the most childlike, to what end, who knows.
>N-NO I DO IT TO MOG OTHER WOMEN I SWEAR!
do not believe their lies. the end goal is to look like a better choice to the men they want.
>Which criteria
Idk whatever stupid makeup or thong or hair trend is cool in their area/time
Its more of a popularity/being valued by fellow women thing
Its like even the most educated, no-shit-giving woman wants to be in the loop about which boots are going to be in next winter
Clothing, hair, makeup, bawdtiness lvl (men see it as bawdtiness but women see it as fashion choices) these are all values that originated and acquired importance among women, its like a language they speak
Still me
You need to keep it simple
Men want:
breasts/ass/hips to waist ratio/being down to frick
Women want:
Respect in the form of being popular/appreciated for their aesthetic choices, and such validation cannot come from men, who we know couldn’t care less if you are not wearing matching earrings or the right perfume, but other women, the only ones who could give a shit about all of those unbelievably stupid notions on aesthetics and appearance women care about
>Women want:
>Respect in the form of being popular/appreciated for their aesthetic choices, and such validation cannot come from men, who we know couldn’t care less if you are not wearing matching earrings or the right perfume, but other women, the only ones who could give a shit about all of those unbelievably stupid notions on aesthetics and appearance women care about
seems kind of insane to do this given that men can give a woman just about anything she wants, while other women can give women little.
I think some women know this and guide female competition in a way that makes women more attractive. But then outside forces frick it up and manipulate female competition in a way that makes people money
>Women don’t do shit for men to notice them.
*fork drops on the floor as you walk by*
>Women don’t do shit for men to notice them
Keep saying that, maybe a man who's desperate or stupid will believe you.
I mean you are already pointing it out. If they are things they can not control they don't really have to do anything that takes effort to fix them, or they could get them fixed through plastic surgery, which also doesn't require them to put in work. More importantly, if noses are higher priority to other women, too, and women are competing with other women, and seeking their approval (more so than that of men), then it's just natural that getting their nose fixed is higher up their list.
>More importantly, if noses are higher priority to other women, too, and women are competing with other women, and seeking their approval (more so than that of men), then it's just natural that getting their nose fixed is higher up their list.
women should just other women for noses though. Small upturned noses are literally only common in white women from a small part of the UK from the ages of 15 to 25. There not even common in white women, and the white women that have them grow out of them around the time they have their second or third child.
Its such a self destructive pointless thing to obsess over
>More importantly, if noses are higher priority to other women, too, and women are competing with other women, and seeking their approval (more so than that of men), then it's just natural that getting their nose fixed is higher up their list.
This. OP literally doesn't even understand that men are doing the exact same thing. Men are LITERALLY the same. Men want to build bigger muscles, be a navy seal, be a tough guy, literally go for all these traits that women couldn' care less. Women care inifnitely more if you have a good skin care routine, nice lips, good hair, fashionable clothing etc.
>Women care inifnitely more if you have a good skin care routine, nice lips, good hair, fashionable clothing etc.
Perhaps it's time for women to just date other women.
>Women care inifnitely more if you have a good skin care routine
>than being masculine
lol
lmao even
what a fricking obvious israelite
Let me throw that argument on it's head mate, since you seem to have forgotten where you are.
Why do men on IST worry about parts of their appearance that no one outside of IST gives a shit about that are hard to change, while ignoring the things a majority of women do care about that they can change?
Why do you worry about quads, shins, lats and obsess about your jawline instead of just focusing on becoming better at talking with women, get a nice haircut and develop a sense of fashion?
It seems that IST doesn't get it either.
HAHAHAHAHA, good one mate.
>quads
I've gotten compliments for it and women have asked me if I play soccer. It's a status symbol since big legs are really hard to achieve.
>shins
Like the ones on the front of your lower leg?
>lats
The most important thing in looking attractive as a man in terms of physical appearance outside of face is width. There was a literal study recently that concluded that the width of a man's shoulders was directly correlated to how likely a woman was to orgasm from his dick. Lats help you look wider, they're really fricking important. Posted a pic of my back on IG 2 days ago and got dms from 3 women I didn't know lmao.
>jawline
The most important facial aspect of a man. Bone structure is immensely important in looking attractive, you're absolutely moronic for not realizing that.
>better at talking to women
You get good at talking to women by being someone they desire, that's it. You can even rape them and get away with it if you're attractive enough.
>haircut
Your sole good point, I grew out my hair and regularly get compliments from women for it.
>fashion
Overrated, but not fully wrong. It's a multiplier for attractivity tho, so it will benefit attractive people more than ugly frickers. 5/10s and below should focus on bodybuilding, getting leaner and jaw first.
her music is so fr*cking bad, YIKES
I don't understand why you goys list over israeliteesses so hard. They are demons
>They are demons
anime has taught me this is ok.
So long as they put out after marriage, they're a step above christian and atheist white women
That JAV is so good.
Well it was nice seeing Hitomi take a bigger (at least on nip standards) wiener. My only complaint is that the guy was too passive. By the 4th time the succubus is raping you you might as well go with it and frick her back too.
That's wrong. I would frick her but I'd prefer a better looking woman
>That's wrong. I would frick her but I'd prefer a better looking woman
look her in the face and say that again. You can't
>Why are women like this?
The same way we think getting muscles will make them like us more when in reality as long as you're not fat or a superskelly you're already 90% of the way there physically.
Blackpillers and incels need to admit they just don't know anything about women
For the same reason many men focus on their pecs and ignore their glutes.
Egocentric bias.
>men don't really care about noses and chins on women
she's pretty hot, ngl
>>men don't really care about noses and chins on women
big nose and small chin is hot on women that aren't fat and have a good hip to waist ratio. Its just a fact.
>women that aren't fat and have a good hip to waist ratio
tbf that's kinda like picrel
>tbf that's kinda like picrel
kinda. Now imagine that guy on the left thinking he can be as hot as the guy in the right by getting a nose job and not doing any work to get in shape or grow a beard or get clothes that fit. Then you have women
that stereotype of women definitely reminds me of the lookismcels
>that stereotype of women definitely reminds me of the lookismcels
the real comedy is that at least lookismcels obess over stuff some women openly like, like tall guys. Women obsess over shit no man talks about, like noses and chins. Just random shit women pick up from women's magazines, pushed to sell make up and expensive surgeries.
We're talking dumb shit like women hating their hip dips because a magazine said so. Women in the 80s were all trying to starve their asses off because of fashion magazines.
The only thing the Kardashians did for humanity was talking women into not hating their asses and hips.
eh, women obsess over ass & tiddy too, hell most women that do more than cardio shit do meme exercises hoping to get good butt thighs and tummy
but yeah they're definitely even worse off when it comes to psyops, and the 90s gay designers making women want to look like boyish flat-ass twinks was a disaster, I'm glad it was before I was old enough
Why are women like this?
Women struggle differently with their bodies. For men it's easier to disengage from the body, since we know that our wit, our determination and other character-related traits can compensate for the limitations of our bodies. Many women ARE their bodies, they've been taught that their bodies are the most valuable things they have and many believed it and thus have nothing else. That's why they become obsessed with every little detail of it and are willing to spend hundreds of thousands in plastic surgery.
It's all social status. 100 years ago in the West, women were judged by the size and status of their family: husband, kids, etc. Talk to people outside of the West, or old people, and you'll quickly get a sense that strong family was the goal of men and women, with material and superficial shit being secondary. Only in the oligarch class did people give a shit about this nonsense.
Now, everyone has been brainwashed by propaganda to believe they're in the oligarch class. The fact that "shopping" is a hobby of so many women represents this perfectly. Everyone around you cares about superficial nonsense because all the corporate media (including cell phone news feeds, social media, etc.) cares about is superficial nonsense, so if you want to maintain some semblance of social status, you also need to care about superficial nonsense.
I married a woman because she was really interested in having kids and building a strong life together, we get married and all she wants to do is shop, restaurants, spend hundreds of dollars on stupid cosmetic creams at Target that don't work, etc.
Anyway, you also see this with a lot of men: put a man in a social group, and he'll try to rise to the top, or at least participate enough in what the group cares about to not be ostracized. In psychology we call it "social proof": if everyone else cares about something, it must be important, right?
>I married a woman because she was really interested in having kids and building a strong life together, we get married and all she wants to do is shop, restaurants, spend hundreds of dollars on stupid cosmetic creams at Target that don't work, etc.
depressing but true. Most women just want to travel 8 hours from home and eat food in unfamiliar places. Its really weird and I have no idea how so many women just obsess over eating.
why do men worry about parts of their appearance that no one cares about, that are hard to change, while ignoring the things women do care about that they can change?
Sometimes I go on reddit and read what women actually find attractive in themselves and men. I will say that it has helped me some because it has made me realize that model level men and women feel their ugly.
But I often see men that hate their noses, hate their chins, want bigger penis, etc, but they never talk about losing weight or getting in shape. I even saw one about ben asking if girls just care about dick size, saying ben was small
men really don't get it. If we can be honest for a second and not talk in memes, women don't really care about dicks and chins on men. Its literally all about the hip to waist ratio. Thats it.
People are paying to have their noses broken and plastic put in their dick when all they would really have to do is lose weight.
Why are men like this?
>that are hard to change, while ignoring the things men do care about that they can change?
breasts are objectively better than ass.
I love b***hes with big noses, their face reminds me of a bird and I fricking love birds bros.
I don't have a thing for birds, but a long nose often looks great on a woman ime.
Another woman hate thread? Just get a twink already and call it a day.
>Another woman hate thread?
nah. Its actually very pro woman. Looking as good as Abbey is a pretty low bar. She's got a very simple beauty to her face. Nothing too extreme.
OP is essentially asserting that most women are attractive. That most noses and chins are fine. Most women don't need surgery. All they need is to eat a little better and work out a bit.
OP is a little inflammatory, but the message is actually very sweet and kind of to women. Dudes would be crying with joy if a woman came here and told them to not worry so much about things they can't change, that she even loves some short guys or some balding guys, just to focus on losing weight and not being fat.
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>Dudes would be crying with joy if a woman came here and told them to not worry so much about things they can't change, that she even loves some short guys or some balding guys, just to focus on losing weight and not being fat.
Luckily no woman would ever say that lmao
>my israeliteess goddess
why is she so perfect bros?
Men literally do the same thing.
This. It's the same when women spend money to look good. They go do their nails or some moronic shit like that and use insane amount of money, time and effort in similar decoration. All of course while putting zero effort in losing weight or excercising.
I can shed some light on this I mastered in gender studies & also have a bachelors in sociology. I have conducted several multi year long experiments which have bared fruit to some very intriguing findings.
Most of these studies involved polls, surveys, and questionnaires and I have always gotten the same result at 100% accuracy.
The answer to why women do [anything] is that they’re fricking stupid lmao
Same mentality gymcels have, people on here get mad when a woman points out she doesn't find men that workout all the time attractive and people on here type paragraphs seething about it "we don't care what women want, we do it for ourselves" and "what women say != what women want" and whatnot. Its no different than women getting angry when men tell her that getting a breast reduction surgery and wearing five pounds of make up will make her less attractive.
Breast reductions objectively make women more attractive. Saggy cow breasts are disgusting.
You should check your test
You should check your bestiality fetish.
>le only real man like disgusting saggy watermelon breasts!
Gross. You have zero aesthetic sensibility. You do not understand beauty. You are a subhuman. Quite literally.
You like men.
number 2 for me please
You like cows.
>muh evolution
Big fat saggy cow breasts has NEVER been a trait that men desire through history.
I bet you think Black person baboon asses are attractive too.
>Gross. You have zero aesthetic sensibility. You do not understand beauty.
anon, human women have the largest breasts of any primate. They have large breasts because humans find them attractive and select for them. Being anti boob just makes you less human
>Breast reductions objectively make women more attractive.
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sweetie did you drink your soi juice its time for your vasectomy appointment
Decent bait, but every man with a functioning nutsack knows you're full of shit.
>people on here get mad when a woman points out she doesn't find men that workout all the time attractive
If you ask a women who says that to provide an example of a man she likes, she'll show a picture of a guy that works out (but she's not smart enough to know he works out and thinks "works out" means looking like a roid troony).
>If you ask a women who says that to provide an example of a man she likes, she'll show a picture of a guy that works out (but she's not smart enough to know he works out and thinks "works out" means looking like a roid troony).
or a guy that has some mass from eating a lot of meat and working a blue collar job that puts some muscle on him.
A good example is my mom thought my dad was hot the summer he was bailing hay by hand. He built is shoulders and arms up throwing big heavy bails of hay on a flat bed trailer.
I don't think she's ever put all that together.
Women are just like that. They either don't know or won't admit it. They like to date military guys for the same reason. The exercise keeps them pretty fit.
I love women. But they're all really nonobservant, or dishonest, or both.
very on point
you don't build noticeable muscle over the course of a summer, lmao
>People are paying to have their noses broken and plastic put in their chin when all they would really have to do is lose weight.
Because losing weight requires self control (a male trait) and getting a nose job just requires money
Wait until they figure out what we think about women over 30...
Because social media is damaging. When you can filter what you put out there (both in terms of selective grooming of posts and in terms of physical digital image filters) you can fool other women into thinking you have a perfect life. This breeds insecurity, and insecurity is a hard poison to detoxify.
The most beautiful thing about a woman is her soul.
No matter her body, her clothes, all of that. It is the content of her character that matters most. It is her heart.
I do not have trouble with women, not for years, I am the one causing trouble and heartbreak for women. You see women want love, they want to be mothers and raise families, and a lot of men just want to bust a nut.
It's not rocket science, but life will suck if you are stuck with a woman who is not kind and is vain, mean, spiteful, hateful, etc
It is better to be with ONE woman and be loyal to her until you die, if you want to successfully raise a family and maintain a marriage.
If you just want to bust a nut it's not that hard really and one day you will get old, will you be married or raising a family? Or will you just be thinking about busting a nut? Because that is literally your brain telling you to make a baby, that is why it happens.
her soul, and her character is indeed pretty high up there for me
I remember a thread about some jubilee video where a couple of prostitutes had half a dozen of plastic surgeries and they looked like absolute shit and were still fat. It's on the same level of stupidity as homosexuals that do bone smashing
I like big breasts and small breasts. I like tall girls and short girls. I like thin girls but not sticc and chubby but not obese girls.
The things I want the most are an honest heart who loves me and health. I can get into the rest of the girl.
Lip injections never look good and they always make you look moronic. Overly groomed eyebrows are a red flag, it's like having purple hair. It takes a certain personality to sit in front of a mirror for hours preening yourself and still get it wrong.
"What women really think? We don't know. Why do they care about other things then their own breasts and ass? I care about breasts and ass. What goes on inside of a woman's head? Is it complicated? Couldn't be. I want sex. Why women won't have sex with me? What do they think about? It's deeply misguided. I cannot understand them. Let's try to speculate together"
I honestly think that testosterone lowers your IQ.
Science Time.
Studies show that men select primarily for, in order :
1- Facial Symetry (Facial Beauty)
2- Not being Obese (Overweight isokay, but obese is not)
3- If a woman is nice to them.
So women can't really control N°1. Facial symmetrycan't be changed,it's genetic, unless you're willing to do plastic surgery.
That's why it's so popular these days.
Even if women don't know this outright, their instincts and experience will prove that it's true and push them to get surgery.
Number 2, No being Obese, is where women REEE the most.
Telling a woman that being obese is very unnattractive makes them very angry, because you'retelling them they have to control themselves and work out.
Women HATE having responsibility overtheir own beauty.
They want you o be attracted to them, even if they don't take care of themselves.
Hence all the Fat Positivity and HAES bullshit these past few years.
And don't give me no "Architext" meme bullshit.
Science shows that less than 5% of Men find "Fat girls" attractive.
Not only that, but this 5% of men are NEVER high value men, few exceptions don't disprove the rule.
And the 3rd is both funny and sad.
Women are so mean in general, that being nice is a genuine quality men look for.
That's why the most diagreable and angry feminists don't get laid.
They are not nice enough to attract normal men.
There.
And if you're curious about the other way around,
Women select men primarily for, in order :
-Social Status (Wealth, Fame and Power/Influence).
- Height
- Shoulder Width.
There.
Now you know.
is this study based on dating apps? Because that doesn't reflect real life
>is this study based on dating apps? Because that doesn't reflect real life
Nope, not at all.
For Dating Apps, it's almost exclusively about physical appearence, because that'sthe only thing you can really get from dating apps, since you can basically fake eveything else.
I can back this up by saying that people's bio's on dating apps don't even matter, especially for women.
Theyonly made choices based on the pictures.
So to be succesful on dating apps is to be physcially attractive andhave quality pictures.
It was scientific research done in a controlled environment.
As scientifically as possible.
It was not Self-Reported.
So maybe that's where the confusion you have comes from.
People might SAY they want a certain thing.
But scientist used the actions of people to determine these things.
How they rated people's photos, with and without information, like "This guy makes 200k a year" / "This guy is 6ft2" type of studies.
I didn't chose these results or made them up.
I'm simply repeating the information I've found.
Remember that this is "on average".
Women select differently depending on the situation, or if certan criterias are met / not met.
But please, if you have better information, other scientific studies, that explain this better or is "reflect real life better" then please share them.
You can also share you personnal opinion on what order things should be, or what factors were not included but should have been.
I'm all ears.