they're just labels and scene+emo is a subgenres of punk, goth is a subgenre of rock. Early emo is actually a subgenre of midwestern indie rock which then moved in the punk direction. This is why labels are stupid and mostly used for commercializing something. If you want to label these girls based on what they consume though the answer is clearly drugs, tumblr, and dick.
These girls have peak 90s worm physiques. Also bangs on the far left wouldn’t even be allowed to smell my cock bangs like that = dirty smelly unwashed pussy to me for some reason.
First of all those are whore metal heads.
Second, it's not like we wear full makeup and garb to go to the gym, I wear normal stuff at the gym I'm not there to express myself.
>I'm not there to express myself
I wear combat boots and camo everywhere, gotta live it and not just be a poser when its convenient for you so you can fit in with le heckin subcommunity
I'm not going to make myself uncomfortable because someone tells me I have to conform. I'll stick to black sweatpants, black t-shirts, and my pink shoes thanks.
Those aren't metal heads if they are going to that festival. Thats like goofy synth music.
There is a cuty goth girl coming to my gym late in the evening (10 pm). As far as I have seen, she only comes in, spends 20-30 minutes on the stairmaster and leaves.
The whole aestetic is relying on women not having muscle and fat, or fat in the right places for the big tiddy goth mode. So I guess their natural habitat in the gym is the cardio area, if they even go to the gym.
Unironically, yes.. When the likes of Skinny moron became an unironic slur, the goth culture of self-destruction hit failure on fork-putdowns.. Only remnants really exist in Industrial and EDM groups. Even those are slipping.
White culture is so ubiquitous and fundamental to civilization that you don't even notice it.
Burgers and beer from Germany, the English language and Newtonian physics from Britain, French fries (really Belgian), the internet itself was invented by white people.
European culture is rich and beautiful, full of soul, so is my redneck culture which comes directly from the old country. The only way you'd think white people are devoid of culture is if you've neglected your natural cultural inheritance in exchange for mass produced pop slop culture and consumerism.
We are not a monolith, a lot of white people do not even speak the same language. We have tribal ancestors and roots and culture, but it frightens the powers that be when white people truly tap into that collective ethnic identity and consciousness. If your "culture" is just consuming pop culture and trends and buying things, you won't have that consciousness or awareness.
Goths don't like sweating. The fact it took this long for anyone to say the obvious makes me concerned for the goth population and for ISTtards that never interacted with one.
Literary traditions are not the same as musical traditions anon. I know it is difficult for the Autistic mind to grasp nuance, but you'll get it eventually.
Those musical traditions have nothing in common with the literary traditions
Thus they aren't gothick
It's not really that difficult to understand if you've ever read a piece of Gothick literature in your life
Here is an experiment for you.. Express the tone of The Raven by Poe from literary metre to a piece of music... Now try reciting it to War Pigs by Black Sabbath. See how the cadence works.. Sisters Of Mercy didn't have to think that through, but the music worked. Maybe if you loosened your cravat for 5 minutes and stopped being such a sperg you could try branching across the autistic divide into expressive music.
1 month ago
Anonymous
There's nothing about the sisters of mercy that's "goth".
Even eldritch denies that they're "goth"
How the fuck is post punk music "goth" in any way?
It's not whiggish, it's not anti catholic, it doesn't have a focus on ruins, male villains, threatened female protagonists, etc
I don't even hate most "goth" music. But it's not gothick. if they kept using the term darkwave over "goth" then I wouldn't care
1 month ago
Anonymous
Some genres get their names from the subcultures that popularise them.
>it's not gothick >REEEEEEE
Bro, why do you even care?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Some genres get their names from the subcultures that popularise them.
"goth" music has nothing to do with gothick literature, as I already explained
The lyrics of lucretia my reflection have nothing to do with the elements i have already listed >Bro, why do you even care?
Because it's a bit stupid to get the name of your musical genre from a genre of literature that has very little to do with the music you play
1 month ago
Anonymous
But what does Gothic literature have to do with The architectural movement or the Nordics?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>the architectural movement
Goths (and the romantic movement in general) celebrated and pioneered the middle ages and Gothick architecture rather than villifying it as the enlightenment thinkers did >the nordics
Whigs saw themselves as inheritors of an ancient system of primal democracy that descended from their gothic ancestors
explain how pornography (the album) is not goth
It's not whiggish. It's not anti catholic. it doesn't have dark ruins, female damsels in distress, byronic heroes, etc
It's cleat you've never read a Gothick novel in your life
1 month ago
Anonymous
that has to be the most sophomoric and topical interpretation of pornography I've heard since '97. I'll give you another opportunity simply because how often does one get an opportunity for novel criticism on classics.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>sophomoric
Says the midwit who thinks post punk music played by people wearing dark clothes has anything in common with a dead genre of literature
If you haven't read a Gothick novel in your life that's fine, but don't pretend you know anything about the genre
>Those musical traditions have nothing in common with the literary traditions
Yeah.
So why call it "goth" music
why not call it darkwave or batcave music as it originally was called
1 month ago
Anonymous
>midwit >post punk
okay so you're just a pseud who plays at semantic word games rather than any kind of deeper criticisms of any genre or even a particular album.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Never liked the cure, I'm not going to listen to their album for a fucking IST post
You're a pseud who has never read a Gothick novel in your life and try to defend something that isn't gothick as being gothick, fucking pathetic
1 month ago
Anonymous
Shelley wrote Frankenstein at a house party during a long dark summer, as a bet.
They were competing on who could tell the best ghost story.
They were edgelords then and in the 80s there were edgelords who had liked punk but were too edgy for that normie shit.
You are a pseud bro, accept it and move on.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I don't give a shit if you listen to the album or not just read the lyrics page.
I have a pile of them taller than you and I still don't care about labels. I just want hear why you think it's not gothic without semantics or memes. A genuine criticism even a sloppy one is all I've been after. Just drop the defensive memery and read for once in your gay life.
>pseud retard thinks frankenstein is Gothick
AHAHAHAHA
Frankenstein is post gothick and uses gothick themes but it is not a gothick novel
You have never read a gothick novel. you are a pseudo-intellectual surface level retard who has never even heard of the castle of otranto before
1 month ago
Anonymous
I didn't say Frankenstein was gothic. I'm not him. Stop trying to avoid thinking. All I asked for was one genuine criticism. Which is about 3 sentences. "I don't believe x is y because x is more similar to ---- than it is to y. Example demonstrating this . Example of the contrary (extra credit). I ask but the simplest uses of your brain nothing more nothing less.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Why the fuck should I give criticism?
You need to prove how the music we label as "goth" is "goth"
You haven't
What about it has any connection to the literary movement that started with the publishment of the castle of otranto and ended in the 1820s?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>le burden of proof
I didn't ask you to prove anything there's no burden of proof this isn't an academic argument or anything. I just want to hear an opinion that was your own and wasn't a meme. I don't care about your trivia or anything else.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>I just want to hear an opinion that was your own and wasn't a meme
I've given you my opnion, spastic
Now you have to prove to me how a a music genre has any connection to a dead literary genre
You have not and you cannot
1 month ago
Anonymous
>no u
if you read even one of the songs on pornography you'd probably have a harder time drawing a line between them. Not that later 'goth rock' has anything left of that but there was a time where there was a purposeful similarity.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I don't give a shit if you listen to the album or not just read the lyrics page.
I have a pile of them taller than you and I still don't care about labels. I just want hear why you think it's not gothic without semantics or memes. A genuine criticism even a sloppy one is all I've been after. Just drop the defensive memery and read for once in your gay life.
I listen to joy division sometimes is that enough to get a goth gf? I’m 5’5, can do 20 pull-ups from a dead hang, and pretty good a hardflips if that helps
So does the current goth scene have any music and social venues or is it just kids (and the granny trannies that try to skinwalk them) buying cheap chink shit to dance around in on tiktok?
those are scene/emo girls you boomer retard
FPBP op is retarded and has shit taste. Goth>Emo
they're actually christian, you can clearly see it says "church" on her shirt.
I said genre, goth is genre scene/emo is sub genre
they're just labels and scene+emo is a subgenres of punk, goth is a subgenre of rock. Early emo is actually a subgenre of midwestern indie rock which then moved in the punk direction. This is why labels are stupid and mostly used for commercializing something. If you want to label these girls based on what they consume though the answer is clearly drugs, tumblr, and dick.
No, this is a scene girl. And they don't need to go to the gym because they live on Monster Ultra
I think monster ultra is more modern than scene girls they would drink the monster with the blue m I think
right
Yeah, there was no monster ultra back in the emo days. Ultra might be for modern fake tiktok girls.
A cute
The only difference is she's not old enough to get piercings, tattoos, or dye her hair.
These girls have peak 90s worm physiques. Also bangs on the far left wouldn’t even be allowed to smell my cock bangs like that = dirty smelly unwashed pussy to me for some reason.
First of all those are whore metal heads.
Second, it's not like we wear full makeup and garb to go to the gym, I wear normal stuff at the gym I'm not there to express myself.
this, I'm a metalhead but I dont look like one in a gym, why would I?
>I'm not there to express myself
I wear combat boots and camo everywhere, gotta live it and not just be a poser when its convenient for you so you can fit in with le heckin subcommunity
I'm not going to make myself uncomfortable because someone tells me I have to conform. I'll stick to black sweatpants, black t-shirts, and my pink shoes thanks.
That's how attention whore metal girls dress.
YWNBAW
Hmm, that's an interesting way to ask for nudes/proof that you're never going to get. Sorry, go to soc if you're feeling excited.
That's a whole lot of cope
Those aren't metal heads if they are going to that festival. Thats like goofy synth music.
There is a cuty goth girl coming to my gym late in the evening (10 pm). As far as I have seen, she only comes in, spends 20-30 minutes on the stairmaster and leaves.
The whole aestetic is relying on women not having muscle and fat, or fat in the right places for the big tiddy goth mode. So I guess their natural habitat in the gym is the cardio area, if they even go to the gym.
None of these girls are that attractive tbh
But you just know they will empty your ball sack dry
Because they only have to be skinny.
fats killed goth.
Unironically, yes.. When the likes of Skinny moron became an unironic slur, the goth culture of self-destruction hit failure on fork-putdowns.. Only remnants really exist in Industrial and EDM groups. Even those are slipping.
They wouldn’t do their goth dress/makeup to go to the gym. They would just look like normal women with some tattoos and died hair that’s done up.
Goths are the last culture that truly belongs to whites
White culture is so ubiquitous and fundamental to civilization that you don't even notice it.
Burgers and beer from Germany, the English language and Newtonian physics from Britain, French fries (really Belgian), the internet itself was invented by white people.
European culture is rich and beautiful, full of soul, so is my redneck culture which comes directly from the old country. The only way you'd think white people are devoid of culture is if you've neglected your natural cultural inheritance in exchange for mass produced pop slop culture and consumerism.
We are not a monolith, a lot of white people do not even speak the same language. We have tribal ancestors and roots and culture, but it frightens the powers that be when white people truly tap into that collective ethnic identity and consciousness. If your "culture" is just consuming pop culture and trends and buying things, you won't have that consciousness or awareness.
You just stole all your technology and culture from South Asia
Metal is and always will be white/euro.
Do goths girls even listen to metal? I thought they listened to rock and punk.
>he doesn't know about Peter Steele
Peter Steele wasn't actually a goth. Type O, as good as they were, were basically a parody band.
Goths don't like sweating. The fact it took this long for anyone to say the obvious makes me concerned for the goth population and for ISTtards that never interacted with one.
I never sweat while lifting
Because, nobody wears a leather jacket, jeans, collars and overcoats when they're lifting. They wear gym clothes.
Genres apply to art forms.
Cultures and sub-divisions thereof apply to Social Groups.
For example. Your tastes are plebian and you have the characteristics of a Pleb.
how 2 get skinny goth gf
also why do I not girls that like me and love girls that don't want to be near me
Bro, take it from a fellow ISTizen, don't go near goth girls. Ever.
Yeah sure "bro". You just want all the big titted goth sluts for yourself don't you!
I've never met a goth chick that wasn't mentally ill, I wish you luck but you need to know she will do her best to ruin your life. No exceptions.
>mentally ill
Compared to what sort of woman?
Fair lol but still, stay woke about the GGf question
Yes.
Wearing black clothes and listening to post punk music doesn't make you Gothick
Literary traditions are not the same as musical traditions anon. I know it is difficult for the Autistic mind to grasp nuance, but you'll get it eventually.
Those musical traditions have nothing in common with the literary traditions
Thus they aren't gothick
It's not really that difficult to understand if you've ever read a piece of Gothick literature in your life
See. You don't understand the nuance of different traditions. Stick to it bro, you'll figure it out eventually.
Please explain to me how the sisters of mercy are "goth"
you can't
Here is an experiment for you.. Express the tone of The Raven by Poe from literary metre to a piece of music... Now try reciting it to War Pigs by Black Sabbath. See how the cadence works.. Sisters Of Mercy didn't have to think that through, but the music worked. Maybe if you loosened your cravat for 5 minutes and stopped being such a sperg you could try branching across the autistic divide into expressive music.
There's nothing about the sisters of mercy that's "goth".
Even eldritch denies that they're "goth"
How the fuck is post punk music "goth" in any way?
It's not whiggish, it's not anti catholic, it doesn't have a focus on ruins, male villains, threatened female protagonists, etc
I don't even hate most "goth" music. But it's not gothick. if they kept using the term darkwave over "goth" then I wouldn't care
Some genres get their names from the subcultures that popularise them.
>it's not gothick
>REEEEEEE
Bro, why do you even care?
>Some genres get their names from the subcultures that popularise them.
"goth" music has nothing to do with gothick literature, as I already explained
The lyrics of lucretia my reflection have nothing to do with the elements i have already listed
>Bro, why do you even care?
Because it's a bit stupid to get the name of your musical genre from a genre of literature that has very little to do with the music you play
But what does Gothic literature have to do with The architectural movement or the Nordics?
>the architectural movement
Goths (and the romantic movement in general) celebrated and pioneered the middle ages and Gothick architecture rather than villifying it as the enlightenment thinkers did
>the nordics
Whigs saw themselves as inheritors of an ancient system of primal democracy that descended from their gothic ancestors
It's not whiggish. It's not anti catholic. it doesn't have dark ruins, female damsels in distress, byronic heroes, etc
It's cleat you've never read a Gothick novel in your life
that has to be the most sophomoric and topical interpretation of pornography I've heard since '97. I'll give you another opportunity simply because how often does one get an opportunity for novel criticism on classics.
>sophomoric
Says the midwit who thinks post punk music played by people wearing dark clothes has anything in common with a dead genre of literature
If you haven't read a Gothick novel in your life that's fine, but don't pretend you know anything about the genre
So why call it "goth" music
why not call it darkwave or batcave music as it originally was called
>midwit
>post punk
okay so you're just a pseud who plays at semantic word games rather than any kind of deeper criticisms of any genre or even a particular album.
Never liked the cure, I'm not going to listen to their album for a fucking IST post
You're a pseud who has never read a Gothick novel in your life and try to defend something that isn't gothick as being gothick, fucking pathetic
Shelley wrote Frankenstein at a house party during a long dark summer, as a bet.
They were competing on who could tell the best ghost story.
They were edgelords then and in the 80s there were edgelords who had liked punk but were too edgy for that normie shit.
You are a pseud bro, accept it and move on.
>pseud retard thinks frankenstein is Gothick
AHAHAHAHA
Frankenstein is post gothick and uses gothick themes but it is not a gothick novel
You have never read a gothick novel. you are a pseudo-intellectual surface level retard who has never even heard of the castle of otranto before
I didn't say Frankenstein was gothic. I'm not him. Stop trying to avoid thinking. All I asked for was one genuine criticism. Which is about 3 sentences. "I don't believe x is y because x is more similar to ---- than it is to y. Example demonstrating this . Example of the contrary (extra credit). I ask but the simplest uses of your brain nothing more nothing less.
Why the fuck should I give criticism?
You need to prove how the music we label as "goth" is "goth"
You haven't
What about it has any connection to the literary movement that started with the publishment of the castle of otranto and ended in the 1820s?
>le burden of proof
I didn't ask you to prove anything there's no burden of proof this isn't an academic argument or anything. I just want to hear an opinion that was your own and wasn't a meme. I don't care about your trivia or anything else.
>I just want to hear an opinion that was your own and wasn't a meme
I've given you my opnion, spastic
Now you have to prove to me how a a music genre has any connection to a dead literary genre
You have not and you cannot
>no u
if you read even one of the songs on pornography you'd probably have a harder time drawing a line between them. Not that later 'goth rock' has anything left of that but there was a time where there was a purposeful similarity.
I don't give a shit if you listen to the album or not just read the lyrics page.
I have a pile of them taller than you and I still don't care about labels. I just want hear why you think it's not gothic without semantics or memes. A genuine criticism even a sloppy one is all I've been after. Just drop the defensive memery and read for once in your gay life.
explain how pornography (the album) is not goth
>Those musical traditions have nothing in common with the literary traditions
Yeah.
sneed
I listen to joy division sometimes is that enough to get a goth gf? I’m 5’5, can do 20 pull-ups from a dead hang, and pretty good a hardflips if that helps
I hope you meant to type 6' 5,5"
No.
So does the current goth scene have any music and social venues or is it just kids (and the granny trannies that try to skinwalk them) buying cheap chink shit to dance around in on tiktok?
Goth/emo/satanists are more interested in chasing chemical and flesh based worldly pleasures rather than self improvment and beneficial stuff.
homegym
t. big tiddy goth gf
They're weak and it first their aesthetics.
I haven't seen a goth irl at all since 2010
Spend more time hanging out at high schools.
need a metalhead wife