why do you skip pull ups?

why do you skip pull ups?

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    because i cant do them

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do assist

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same, I've been working towards them for ages now. I wonder if something is just fricked up with my form. Currently doing jack-knife pullups, I bought a resistance band recently and still can't do a regular pullup with them. I've probably got around 10lbs of bodyfat left to lose, so I hope that closes the gap enough to where at least the resistance band will work. I feel like once I can start doing them with that, I'll make progress a lot quicker.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Start with negatives. Get a box to stand on (or jump) and start in the top position of a pull up. Slowly lower your self in a 5-10 second span per rep. Do as many as you can. After a couple weeks of this you should be able to do 1-5 regular pull ups.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't do negatives and bands and such gay shit other anons propose, they don't know shit. Do Australian pull-ups (bars/trx/rings - rings are best because you'll keep using them as you progress) instead, going lower and lower which adds difficulty progressively).

      Don't do negatives. You may hurt yourself and they're very difficult to progress linearly. Bands are better but not by much. You'll probably either use lighter or heavier than you should and they are also gay. I know of people who started using them and now they like to suck dick for 50 dollars

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        whats wrong with negatives specifically? I did them when i started lifted because i couldn't do 1 pullup. Worked up to 10 second negatives then after about a month and then from there i could do about 5 pullups and switched to them. Was also doing bodyweight rows as an accessory

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I've seen shoulder injuries because of them.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            any idea how? I never got any sort of injury and i did them every other day for a month straight. its a very slow and controlled movement and is literally a pullup without the first part

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >how?

              Sarcopenic/fat people and women who can't really control the eccentric being thrown in a pull-up bar and told to control the negative even though they can't

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            By that logic, no one should be doing any exercises.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Negatives worked well for me. I did 3x8 slow negatives 3x per week and after a month or so I could do 4 pullups.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I know of people who started using them and now they like to suck dick for 50 dollars
        Doesn't surprise me that you'd know them

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        hey 50 dollars is 50 dollars

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lol look at this fatso cant do even one pull up

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i do chin ups

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I never do and o have a huge back because of them

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      prove it

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Starts hurting shoulders at around 4 weeks of doing them, no matter how controlled or not controlled, so not doing anything but hangs for sport.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    chin-ups use more muscle mass and work the biceps as well and hence are the superior movement; there is no reason to do a pull-up in a world with chin-ups

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      chin ups suck for back tho

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        they don't thoughever

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        it's the same fricking movement pattern except you're putting your biceps in a more favourable position so you can lift a bit more
        your lats abduct your elbows towards you, that's what they do, which way you are gripping doesn't matter nearly as much as you think

        Starts hurting shoulders at around 4 weeks of doing them, no matter how controlled or not controlled, so not doing anything but hangs for sport.

        what it matters a lot for however is joint health, neutral grip tends to be the comfiest, followed by chin-ups and then pull-ups

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the back
        There are several different muscles in the back accounting for a variety of different functions. Chinups are a shoulder extension and elbow flexion exercise. Shoulder extension is one of the function of the lats. For the lats they are just as effective.

        it's the same fricking movement pattern except you're putting your biceps in a more favourable position so you can lift a bit more
        your lats abduct your elbows towards you, that's what they do, which way you are gripping doesn't matter nearly as much as you think
        [...]
        what it matters a lot for however is joint health, neutral grip tends to be the comfiest, followed by chin-ups and then pull-ups

        >it's the same fricking movement pattern
        Typically pullups are preformed with a slightly wider grip than chinups which uses more of the shoulder adduction function of the lats. The change in grip also increases the amount of scapular rotation which occurs resulting in a more effective stimulus for the traps and rhomboids.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Chin-ups are not a natural position that you'll ever find yourself in. Pull-ups will help you climb objects if required.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        You don't understand what exercise is for. Exercise is for stimulating desired physiological adaptations, myofibril size, stronger tendons, metabolic efficiency, etc. It doesn't matter what a """natural position""" would be. What matters is whether or not a motion is effective at stimulating a positive physiological adaptation in specific muscle groups. The point of pullups is the same as chinups: to stimulate your body to strengthen the muscles in your back and your elbow flexion muscles. So I'll provide the person you're responding to with a real answer rather than some "functional training" non-sense. If you want to get good at climbing objects, go climb objects.

        chin-ups use more muscle mass and work the biceps as well and hence are the superior movement; there is no reason to do a pull-up in a world with chin-ups

        There is a reason to do pull-ups instead of chinups, especially with a wide grip or wide neutral grip (very close to a chinup in terms of bicep use). Wide grip pullups limit the use of the triceps during the motion since they reduce the degree to which shoulder extension occurs (one of the functions of the long head of the triceps) and emphasizes the shoulder adduction function of the lats. Second wide grip pullups utilize much more of the function of the traps which is scapular retraction and rotation. Whereas in chinups, the lats are trained through shoulder extension and the long head is used heavily as part of that.

        Another reason why someone might do some other grip of pullups whether, neutral, semi-supinated, semi-pronated, etc. would be for comfort. People have different carrying angles of their forearms and chinups might be uncomfortable for some people because of that so semi-supinated, neutral grip, etc. would be preferred.

        A third reason is that someone might be particularly strong with chinups and it would require too many reps to be within the desired rep range so they can switch to a version that uses less of the biceps reducing the number of reps it takes to effectively train your back.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          My homie

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >chin-ups use more muscle mass and work the biceps as well and hence are the superior movement; there is no reason to do a pull-up in a world with chin-ups

      Chin-ups are inferior to narrow grip pulldowns or machine pullovers, because the bicep is the limiting factor.

      Pull-ups = Narrow pull-downs = Widegrip pull-downs > Chin-ups

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      back in school we used to call pull ups - male pull ups an chin ups - female pull ups
      i aint a b***h so im doing pulls

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    A couple months ago I hated them. Now that I can do 10 with ease I'm starting to love'em. Just keep going and using resistance bands if it's too much, in no time you develop big back and strength to pull yourself up.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I suck at pull-ups and it pisses me off. I recently started training chin-ups again, hopefully it helps my pull-ups improve.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Doing only chin ups got me from 4 chin ups/zero pull ups to 8 chin ups/3 pull ups in a couple of weeks.
      t. dyel

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i fricked up something in my rear delt area somehow and now it hurts whenever i do pull ups

    no pull ups for a month then i guess, feels kinda good to do machines again and find out how much lighter they got tho

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Rotator cuff

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >stop doing them for a week
    >can't do 5
    what's the deal with that

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i'm doing grease the groove with pull ups for the next few weeks. so far i'm enjoying this training method, it leaves me without DOMs while allowing me to train daily and have a much higher weekly volume compared to my previous routine (4 sets of pull ups to failure 3x/week). my max reps before starting was 6 pulls/7 chins. i'll see if it improves in a few weeks.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I cant do any pull up variants (or any pulling exercises at all in fact) without aggravating my left elbow. It usually doesnt hurt during the moment but will ache a few hours later and on until the next workout. Idk what to do

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      If it's either of these, it's possible your grip is wrong. The bar should be tight up against your palm, no stretched out fingers. If you let your grip loosen and your fingers stretch out you put more stress on the tendons that run all the way up to the elbow.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You need to retrain your grip.
      let me guess inside left elbow, following the inside down to the pinky?
      you're overcompensating and it's turning your wrist slightly in putting strain on your tendons because you're not locked in on the middle fingers tights.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    bc there are machines that can do that for you

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I do one day of pull ups alone, and chin ups with back and biceps.

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >you skip pull ups
    prove it

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I do 50 chin ups twice per week
    t. fully grown adult male

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I do 75 Pull Ups twice per week.
      Your turn.

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    chin ups are also good for your chest

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because I can't do a single one. I do around 14 chin-ups, and my lat-pulldown loads are going up, but I still can't do a single pull-up, wtf.

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't. I suck at them and can only do 3 in a set with shitty form, but I'll keep going until I can do them from a dead hang ,then I'll keep going until I can do 10 clean form. Then until I can do is 0 weighted. I don't want to reach a goal, I just want to work towards an impossible mountain forever

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I do weighted, everyone should work into being able to lift its own weight vertically just like everyone should train to be able to squat at least its bodyweight

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’m 194cm tall and I can’t find a good spot to deadhang.

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >start doing pull ups
    >can do 12 in a row, feels good man
    >some homosexual on IST tells me my form is bad and i need to lock at the bottom of each rep
    >now can only do 5 RM and i can’t progress anymore

    What do ?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do proper form until you can't, then do sloppy form til you can't.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        t.

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can only do like 5 in a row.

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I dont tho. In fact I pretty much only do pull ups.

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pull ups is the only thing i did for the past 12 years

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pullups are the exercise I skip least often. In the gym I can do 5-6 reps wearing 35 lbs. When I don't make it to the gym, I do a set every 45 mins at work, did 10x10 Wednesday and today this week.

  26. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    can powerlifting bloatlords do pull ups?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not really. They always neglect hands and forearms.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I, OP and person on the pic related, train powerlifting. It depends on your diet and exercise selection - e.g.: I treat weighted pullups exactly how I treat the bench press...

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean those guys who are so bloated they are basically a sphere not just buff

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Kyriakos Grizzly (bloatlord) can do strict pullups

  27. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I dont
    They are historically my best lift because i am destined to always somewhat be a lanklet. Ive done aets of 10 with the 40kg kettlebell attached. Ive done multiple sets of 20. I did a set of 42 once. My lats have been so disproportionate it looked kind of gay. I am heavier now and still crank out sets of 12-15 easily.

  28. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love pullups and I'm really good at them but I still have a shit lat spread 🙁

  29. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pullups build forearms and core better than chinups (elbow flexion with pronated hands is mostly driven by the brachioradialis, see also reverse grip barbell curls). Since forearms are harder to build than biceps for most people, pullups would be the better variation.
    If I'm programming my back exercises so the vertical pull is the main exercise one day and not the other, I program pullups as a main on one day and chinups the other day, so the progress is tracked separately (vertical pulls are very fatigue sensitive for me so I can do 5-6 weighted pullups if it's the first exercise and at most 3 if it's not).
    Alternatively I use chinups as an accessory to pullups e.g. pullups 3xF chinups 1xF (dropset).

  30. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't skip them. I can do 6 clean form pull-ups weighted with 15kg backpack but I am still incel. It does not matter, women still won't look at me even when my backs are wider

  31. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >this is a chin up
    >it's called that because you pull your CHIN up to the bar
    >this is a pull up
    >it's called that because you PULL your chin up to the bar
    Whoever came up with this shit should be shot.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      When you do pull ups you should he getting your sternum to the bar. Wtf are you guys really half rapping pull ups?

  32. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    When I do weighted pull-ups - can I hurt my backs by falling weighted from too much height? How much important is for last rep to always get to dead hang and then jump down?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      never hurted myself and i never heard of anyone who did

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The way I look at it, if you can't finish the eccentric the rep didn't count

  33. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because I'm still too fat. Maybe next year.

  34. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    assisted pullup machine my love

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sup ISTizens. I have been doing neutral grip pull ups everyday for 2 years. 50 of them everyday. Every day until you like it. I do already like them. The handles are about 40 cm / 16 in apart.
    I mostly just do neutral grip because it seems more comfortable.
    I have also been told various times that I should vary the grip ( not vehemently enough , apparently ) but also have been told it's fine to just do neutral.
    Am I moronic? If so, please elaborate.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      its fine, neutral grip is the easiest on the joints anyways. switching grips is mainly to avoid overuse injury.
      >50 of them everyday
      why no progression

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thx for the reply. Noted.
        >why no progression
        50 is the minimum. I do more than 50 often. When I first started (think 4ish years ago). I couldn't even do 2 of them in a row. Now I can hang just by one arm / do 15 of legit ones.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't, I'm a bouldering gay so I love pull ups

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it acceptable to cheat on form to shit out more reps ? I've reached a point where I can do 4 sets of 5 with full ROM (the last set is agonizing) and then I pull the bands out and start doing sets of 8. Should I just do half ROM w/o the bands ?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      cheating is winning.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you can access a pulldown machine it's better. If not you can jump up and lower yourself down, resisting the negative is good for hypertrophy
      .

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    right now I can do 4, 3 and then barely 2

    should I just keep doing 3 sets until failure or keep some in reserve and do more volume? I heard both methods through watching yt and shit
    What do what do?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i'd simply go to failure

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If I really wanted to I could do probably 20 pull ups. I don't really test my amrap. I stick to weighted since they are more fun

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      how much do you weight? what's your max weighted pullup?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        About 150 in that picture. I've done 2pl8s for 3 reps. Never tried a 1rm

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I thought you ISTgays were master lifters? I do 3 sets of 10 pull ups every time I’m at the gym.

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I do pulldowns instead. Easier to load and adjust weight.

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