Why does everybody hate PPL?

Why do people hate it so much if it works for so many people?

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Dr. Chad MD

    It works, it's probably just that most people don't have the time or energy. I don't blame them. I used to do it, but eventually it gets tiring and it cuts into your weekend. It's always good to switch up your routines every now and then.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's probably just that most people don't have the time
      I finish my workouts in an hour. Maybe an additional 15 minutes whenever I do abs every other day.
      I'd rather be in the gym 6 days a week with a 1 hour workout than 4 days a week with a 2 hour workout.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I'd rather be in the gym 6 days a week with a 1 hour workout than 4 days a week with a 2 hour workout.
        I'm in the gym 6 days a week for 2 hours

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    U/L/SA (shoulders/arms) is my favorite 3 day split.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Post legs

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    reddit normies like it and we have to be difficult because twitter reposters and zoomies have made the internet homogenous hellscape. In essence our only identity is saying moron and trying to be what reddit isn't whether or not that works is inconsequential. Just remember most people here don't even lift and this is just a worksafe /b,tv,pol,ck,LULZ/ for fat people on a diet.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s not really work safe.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the riffraff comes with them. The psychotic amount of rage I see directed at almost naked women from nofap zealots means (you)s and bait posters and people who don't take the board topic seriously are always going to exploit that. All the christian+schizo has really cranked up in the last 12 years and it's on basically every board because I assume their websites/subreddits shutdown and corralled them here. So much of this board's content is just reposting from reddit IST and twitter with "is this natty?" "how do I achieve this?" "what mode is this?". The boomer facebook political crowd is probably hot on their heels while we have a "IST humor" thread up all the time now.

        If the mods aren't going to police I wish they'd at least turn this into a text only board.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          IST was never good. The /LULZ/ shit started with zyzz worship. Still better than or on par with most other fitness boards. You’re just annoyed with the influx of new summerfags. Board culture will fix them eventually. Otherwise stick to generals or qtdtot threads for on topic discourse.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Summerfags haven't existed for a while, kids are raised on phones and tablets now and they never go away. LULZ tourists keep coming here because somehow people keep falling for the myth that if they lift enough weight then women will approach them and they'll never need to work up the courage to get rejected

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck, you might be right

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shit, man. That's too real.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's time inefficient. Why hit all muscles in the body twice by going to the gym six times when you can do the same by going to the gym twice and staying longer?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      based 4 hour lifter. I’d do 3 hours six days a week if it didn’t mean I had to sleep 12 a day to keep up with it

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do chicks dig giant robots?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They do

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nice.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      big tidd

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's the PPL 6 day split is the most ridiculous since people are training marathon-style with tons of volume without any thought of rest and recovery.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you can just lower the volume if you're crashing. No matter what you're running if it's enough to actually gain on you're going to have to deload after 6-9 weeks. At best most of this stuff is supposed to be an outline you make your own based on your needs and preference and not a prescription you take religiously.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      beginner here, what is a good split then?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Going to the gym is 90% of it. The more days per week you spend in the gym and the less you half ass your workouts, the faster you will make gains. Everything else is window dressing. Overtraining is a thing if you're sub-30 and getting enough sleep, you won't overtrain just by going in 6 days a week.

        >t. did PPL for 5 years, doing 531-PPL for almost a year now, 6 (sometimes 7) days a week of lifting and 3 days a week of bouldering

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Personally, I think 2-3 day split is best but it depends on your schedule and your recovery. My 2 day split isn't PPL but one day is legs/chest/triceps and the other day is back/shoulders/biceps.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a hangover from the dogmatic SS strength training days

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We have a winner here

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kino

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its popular so people on here hate it. Overall best split out there

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      same number 4 times

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    that was a good show

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WE
    LIKE
    GIANT
    ROBOTS

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      CHICKS
      DIG
      GIANT
      ROBOTS

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People hate it because they like to believe their hyper-efficient routine is somehow better, believing they will get the same results with 40% the effort. It’s because they don’t actually enjoy the gym and don’t want to be there. Notice how pro bodybuilders mostly train brosplits/PPL/other 5-7 days a week splits. Maybe it’s because they are the best splits, or maybe it’s because the people who actually enjoy the gym want to be there more often, and also by enjoying it are the ones who get better gains. Either way hating on PPL is a sure sign someone is a DYEL.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Muh professional bodybuilders
      Body building is literally their job. That's what the word 'professional' means.
      For the rest of us working 9-5 with house chores waiting for us, and sometimes other interests, hanging out with friends, or simply "taking a break from it all", going to the gym 6-7 times a week is too much of a chore, especially knowing full well that one can achieve basically the same results from higher intensity/lower volume (3-4 times a week for example). The fact of the matter is, if you're natty, you're simply gonna feel a general sense of tiredness and weakness because your chest won't recover as fast if your body is busy repairing muscles all over the body at the same time.

      There is a reason why 5 times a week is the higher recommended frequency. And that's what I currently (try to) follow.

      Also, PPL can be way more simplistic, which is always a bonus

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's okay to cut down on vidya time to lift more anon.
        >There's no way 6 days a week is sustainable if you have a life
        Absolute max is say 12 hours of lifting and that's with high volume AND taking breaks. But at that point you might as well start making friends inside the gym. Helps with habit-building too, it's more fun to work towards goals when others around you are working towards theirs. And as a beginner you can probably get away with like 6, 1 hr/day, maybe even a little less depending on what your rests look like
        >but I don't want to spend 6-12 hours inside a gym
        Nobody is forcing (You) to do that, doesn't mean it's not without its perks for the general lifter

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I spend 2 hours out of my day 5 times a week. But I have other shit to do too such as work, hangig out with friends, other hobbies, and giving my body proper rest

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because IST is contrarian and PPL is the most popular routine among bodybuilders/fitness influencers right now. It’s stupid as fuck and one the many reasons why you shouldn’t take advice here. Just look at this thread. OP still hasn’t posted body

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    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This happens all the time
      >some random DYEL makes a thread criticizing a popular routine, usually PPL or SS
      >multiple people post their results from said routine
      >OP disappears without posting body

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Literally doesnt matter. If youre hitting every muscle group 2x a week the determining factor for growth is volume and intensity.
    if youre worried about cns fatigue, periodize your training.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is coolcicada PPL good?

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PushPullLegsPullLegs makes more sense.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Explain

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most people have muscular imbalances from driving and computers that they really should pull more than they press.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When you get life responsibilities dedicating 6 days becomes very impractical without having a home gym, ruining the quality of excercise, or further sacrificing other things

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pls rate my PPL

    Pull 1:
    Deadlifts: 1x5+
    Chinups: 3x8
    Chest supported rows: 3x8-12
    EZ bar curls: 3x8-12
    Face pulls: 5x15-12

    Push 1:
    Bench press: 4x5, 1x5+
    OHP: 3x8 (50% of the weight I lift on Push 2)
    Incline dumbbell press: 3x8-12
    Cable tricep pushdown: 3x8-12
    Skullcrushers: 3x8-12 (to be replaced by dips once I get it down to 10 reps)
    Lateral raises: 6x15-20

    Legs 1:
    Squat: 2x5, 1x5+
    Hip thrust: 3x8 (50% of the weight I lift on glute bridges during Leg 2)
    Leg press: 3x8
    RDL: 3x8
    Seated calf raise: 3x8-12

    Pull 2:
    Bent over barbell rows: 4x5, 1x5+
    Weighted chinups: 3x5
    Chest supported rows: 3x8-12
    EZ bar curls: 3x8-12
    Face pulls: 5x15-12

    Push 2:
    OHP: 4x5, 1x5+
    Bench press: 3x8 (50% of the weight I lift on Push 1)
    Incline dumbbell press: 3x8-12
    Cable tricep pushdown: 3x8-12
    Skullcrushers: 3x8-12 (to be replaced by dips once I get it down to 10 reps)
    Lateral raises: 6x15-20

    Legs 2:
    Glute bridges: 3x5
    Squats: 3x8 (50% of the weight I lift on Leg 1)
    Leg press: 3x8
    Leg press: 3x8
    RDL: 3x8
    Standing calf raise: 3x8-12

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Legs 2:
      >Glute bridges: 3x5
      For what reason are you treating glute bridges as a main lift?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bedding braphogs

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Been constantly running into injuries while progressively squatting heavier and doing them 3x5 twice a week. Noticed my glutes started helping my squat after I included some hip thrusts in my routine.
        Also, it's still a compound movement that still hits quads as well as glutes and it's easy to overload.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rate mine as well

      >Pull day
      Squats (only on 1st pull day) 3x5
      Deadlift 5x5 / Barbell rows 4x8
      Pullups 4x8
      Dumbell rows 4x8
      Face pulls w rope hammer curls 4x10
      Barbell curls w reverse curls 4x10

      >Push
      Bench 4x8 / 5x5
      Dips 4x8
      OHP 5x5 / 4x8
      Tricep pushdowns 4x10
      Side lateral raise 4x10

      >Leg
      Squats 4x8 / 5x5
      Romanian deadlift 4x8
      Barbell hip thrust 4x8
      Bolgarian split Squat 4x8
      Calf raises 4x10
      Seated Calf raise 4x10

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Exercise selection looks fine. Volume might be too much though with all those 4 sets per exercise.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So 3x8 instead?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        which hentai is that pic from

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i am cutting and i cannnot recover fromn the pull part of PPL... i can do pullups and rows but curls? i am too tired in the biceps...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      then don't if you're on a cut you only need like 1-2 sets of all your lifts twice a week to just make sure you don't lose too much strength. Lift like you're trying to maintain not like you're trying to gain and the whole process will go a lot smoother.

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