I think it's a psyop or something, but I've called IST out on this exact thing and came to the realization that like none of these guys are even athletes. lmao
>athlete that actually pushes his body to its absolute physical limits is lazy compared to a bodybuilder that goes into air conditioned gyms and picks up weights and puts them back down.
Look up any video on YouTube of a bodybuilder trying to do anything athletic and they always get laughed at in the comments for how pathetic and retarded they look
We want to get huge, not look like ken dolls for little girls. Thats fucking gay. We're men, we want strength, we want to strike fear and awe in our competitors and be the best.
No one here is an athlete. 90% of this board is here to look like their favorite male instagram model who they jerk off to every night. Based on the questions I see here, most of this board has no business being anywhere near a gym and I mean that wholeheartedly. >I've been working out for 2 months, why aren't I 225 pounds yet? >rate my workout of benching 5x10 for 100 pounds >hey guys, I want to start lifting, but I'm concerned about what shoes to wear. My reaearch tells me I need x,y,z, but based on my observations most people do a,b,C. I made a chart to detail the pros and cons of each shoe so if you could all tell me your personal experience it would help
This place is full of autistic retards who never actually talk to humans, they get their social interactions strictly from the internet. If you want real advice, ask the biggest guy in the gym.
>Where are the people who want agile athletic bodies?
Coping in regular gyms, doing iso exercises, and gaining bodyfat, ruining their organs for 0 functional gain whatsoever.
It's just marketing, people see gullible idiots who are willing to part with money for a "lifestyle" and take advantage of them, the entire wave of "fitness" we've seen recently is just that. I love seeing gymcels collide with reality when they actually try to do anything outside of a machine rep. Their tendons are weak, their hearts and lungs are anemic, they think if they do cardio they will lose their "gains" but don't understand what glycogen or water weight looks like.
I shit on people a decade or more younger than me while half-assing this life.
This. My phone blows up with messages about sundown and i chat and flirt of an evening with a few ladies. I'm slim and muscular and drop in here to see the combo of people who've lost it and the people who vent by trolling them.
You have to be fit to play tennis but that's not what makes a good player. Hitting is all technique and positioning, there are 5th graders that can serve harder than any juiced up IST poster ever could. The rest of what makes a good tennis player is all mental, it's a head to head sport so youre not so much playing good tennis but playing well against another player. Its more like chess or fencing, than another sport like soccer or basketball or something
why would I want an agile athletic body if I am not an athlete? A muscular natty physique is far more advantageous to me because it's fun lifting weight and you significantly increase your attractiveness.
My hody pretty much looks like the op and I feel smol af. I am, however, quite agile. In any case I'm willing to sacrifice a little agility to be a bit more swol. I'm not interested in looking roided. Peak natty is ideal for me
A few reasons off the top of my head:
- A lot of the men in the gym got started lifting because they got sick of being Mr spooky or fat. Their idea of a strong/fit male is often a weak man's idea of a strong man. Lot of ripped guys with thin necks.
-Being large and muscular is a Katana, it was super overhyped for a long time, then people recoiled too far the opposite direction and try to act like there are no real world advantages to being 6'2 200lbs @14% vs the guy in op. Being big and strong is super cool, and very useful, socially.
You get all the groceries in one trip, forcing your way out of a rear naked by answering the phone, really any physical endeavor, except endurance sports, is better met with a lean body and well developed musculature than muh superior speed body.
-Being jacked is what the Swarm demands right now, you gotta be bigger to stand out, especially on social media. Zooms pop sarms like candy and if you want to compete as a fellow What's Animaniacs?, you will feel pressure to as well.
Yeah, it's usually silly getting big like a dude with a pro card, but almost nobody does that, even roiders. The point of diminishing returns on muscle mass isn't until well past "toned skinny guy", Naruto lied.
I want to add that I'm not a roider or justifying becoming large at the expense of your life, only arguing that going wayyy past OP is totally worth it. I am not quite to my natty limit, but I won't stop till I'm there, God willing.
>really any physical endeavor, except endurance sports, is better met with a lean body and well developed musculature than muh superior speed body.
OP btfo
>Why does everyone here want huge clumsy roided freak bodies?
Nobody here does?
IST is a natty straight white male christian board. It's the trolls or a few mentally ill trannies who want to inject themselves with hormones to be huge or powershitters who can't stop eating who are trolling.
Everyone knows that ascended ottermode (85-90% natural muscle potential) at 12% bodyfat is the ideal body (pic related).
>not a natty body >unless you train for five years
So a fucking natty body then. Fuck off with your demoralisation bollocks, not everyone has shitty genetics
This board is primarily populated by asocial gymcels. Robotically going to the gym and tracking numbers comes much more naturally to them than playing a social outdoor sport.
i used to look like picrel
women and generally everyone treats you like shit because they think you're weak
getting buffer you can see the change in attitudes towards you from everyone
because of two things: >IST is the most homosexual board on this website >cutting fucking sucks so people would rather permabulk than get down to <15% bf
simple as
fucking sucks so people would rather permabulk than get down to <15% bf >simple as
Cutting is fun as fuck if you're just doing shitloads of some kind of cardio you actually enjoy and eating normally.
As a man, the reason we strive to look like meat machines is because... Well, eventually, it'll be "enough." Enough to please most women and impress most men. Enough for us to protect our wives and children from harm, or to secure them if we have none. Enough for us to be so satisfied with our accomplishments that we can finally forgive ourselves, and cease remembering past mistakes. Enough for us to set a good example for others. Enough for us to look at the sky and ask, "Father, are you looking down on me? Have I become strong? Are you proud of me?" Enough that we won't go insane with grief and regret in the final moments of our lives, thinking "If only I'd done more!" Natty or roider, it doesn't matter... We all lift for the same thing, and that thing is "enough." The only thing is, that none of us know what "enough" looks like. Shredded physiques are a dime a dozen. They don't impress us like they should. Anybody can look that way, if you watch what you eat and move around a little. But we see the statues of greater men than ourselves, we hear stories about them, and about the labors they undertook to become that way... And we can't help but think to ourselves, "Yeah, that's enough." If you really think about it, that's the whole of human history. It's an innocent motivation. We just want enough.
That's called insecurity not motivation. Motivation is when you do something because it excites you not because you need for it to eventually be "enough"
Maybe I'm speaking too much for the general public, but doesn't the prospect of getting everything you want and being satisfied with yourself excite you?
you are a gay, theres never enough self improvement, please have a nice day, lazy bum
Alright this is based, I kneel.
>As a man, the reason we strive to look like meat machines is because... Well, eventually, it'll be "enough." Enough to please most women and impress most men. Enough for us to protect our wives and children from harm, or to secure them if we have none. Enough for us to be so satisfied with our accomplishments that we can finally forgive ourselves, and cease remembering past mistakes. Enough for us to set a good example for others. Enough for us to look at the sky and ask, "Father, are you looking down on me? Have I become strong? Are you proud of me?" Enough that we won't go insane with grief and regret in the final moments of our lives, thinking "If only I'd done more!" Natty or roider, it doesn't matter... We all lift for the same thing, and that thing is "enough." The only thing is, that none of us know what "enough" looks like. Shredded physiques are a dime a dozen. They don't impress us like they should. Anybody can look that way, if you watch what you eat and move around a little. But we see the statues of greater men than ourselves, we hear stories about them, and about the labors they undertook to become that way... And we can't help but think to ourselves, "Yeah, that's enough." If you really think about it, that's the whole of human history. It's an innocent motivation. We just want enough.
Seek professional help.
>As a man, the reason we strive to look like meat machines is because... Well, eventually, it'll be "enough." Enough to please most women and impress most men. Enough for us to protect our wives and children from harm, or to secure them if we have none. Enough for us to be so satisfied with our accomplishments that we can finally forgive ourselves, and cease remembering past mistakes. Enough for us to set a good example for others. Enough for us to look at the sky and ask, "Father, are you looking down on me? Have I become strong? Are you proud of me?" Enough that we won't go insane with grief and regret in the final moments of our lives, thinking "If only I'd done more!" Natty or roider, it doesn't matter... We all lift for the same thing, and that thing is "enough." The only thing is, that none of us know what "enough" looks like. Shredded physiques are a dime a dozen. They don't impress us like they should. Anybody can look that way, if you watch what you eat and move around a little. But we see the statues of greater men than ourselves, we hear stories about them, and about the labors they undertook to become that way... And we can't help but think to ourselves, "Yeah, that's enough." If you really think about it, that's the whole of human history. It's an innocent motivation. We just want enough.
Seek professional help.
Basically anyone who isnt american AND isn't under the age of 18 AND has an IQ over 100 can understand that agility but most importantly heart health mogs looking like a lump of roided meat and looks better. In Europe it's common knowledge
Go into the daily physique thread and look at the height of men striving for gigantic, bodybuilder like builds compared to those who're satisfied with just a fit, good proportion build.
That should tell you everything you need to know.
plenty of people want agile athletic bodies its just that muscles are an easier way to peacock that you're "fit"
generally speaking muscles are easier to achieve comparatively because all you have to do is lift weights and eat properly vs being "agile athletic" requires significantly more practice in advanced motor movements and endurance in some capacity
normies think that muscles = athleticism but if you're knowledgable you'll know that movement = athleticism
I look good from just doing a lot of hiking and rucking. I'm already tall and wide shouldered, I realised after a year or 2 I really don't need to artificially induce hypertrophy through some autistic spreadsheet bullshit plan. Or be a glutton. Bodybuilding was invented by a garden gnome 100 years ago, it's better to go with the tried and true methods healthy people have always used. I also lift stones and do calisthenics. Embrace an ancient warrior larp rather than some gay hollywood larp.
I'm just not into the effete, soft-penis, debutante look of someone who is paid millions of dollars to play a lawn game. Strength and stamina athletes like rugby players (pic related) or ice hockey players are my goal; the ultimate combination of strength, endurance, and chad looks.
Getting to like roided out meathead levels is like a power fantasy thing because it’d be fun to imagine the contrast between that and what I looked like before lifting, but I’d only want to be that big for like a short time and go back to a normal size.
They're out doing agile athletic things, this is an anime forum
I think it's a psyop or something, but I've called IST out on this exact thing and came to the realization that like none of these guys are even athletes. lmao
Doesn’t matter. That body is more appealing to women with vaginas than the massive bodybuilder roid chud cope physiques.
>you can either be a lazy dyel or be Mr. Olympia
kys
>athlete that actually pushes his body to its absolute physical limits is lazy compared to a bodybuilder that goes into air conditioned gyms and picks up weights and puts them back down.
Look up any video on YouTube of a bodybuilder trying to do anything athletic and they always get laughed at in the comments for how pathetic and retarded they look
this is almost as bad as the “functional strength” meme
Damn, this is really the standard dyel cope. You can see a lot of bodybuilder who are more athletic than you. You don't have any excuse to be small
>stupid dyel cope
that it is, fren
We want to get huge, not look like ken dolls for little girls. Thats fucking gay. We're men, we want strength, we want to strike fear and awe in our competitors and be the best.
No one here is an athlete. 90% of this board is here to look like their favorite male instagram model who they jerk off to every night. Based on the questions I see here, most of this board has no business being anywhere near a gym and I mean that wholeheartedly.
>I've been working out for 2 months, why aren't I 225 pounds yet?
>rate my workout of benching 5x10 for 100 pounds
>hey guys, I want to start lifting, but I'm concerned about what shoes to wear. My reaearch tells me I need x,y,z, but based on my observations most people do a,b,C. I made a chart to detail the pros and cons of each shoe so if you could all tell me your personal experience it would help
This place is full of autistic retards who never actually talk to humans, they get their social interactions strictly from the internet. If you want real advice, ask the biggest guy in the gym.
>Where are the people who want agile athletic bodies?
Coping in regular gyms, doing iso exercises, and gaining bodyfat, ruining their organs for 0 functional gain whatsoever.
It's just marketing, people see gullible idiots who are willing to part with money for a "lifestyle" and take advantage of them, the entire wave of "fitness" we've seen recently is just that. I love seeing gymcels collide with reality when they actually try to do anything outside of a machine rep. Their tendons are weak, their hearts and lungs are anemic, they think if they do cardio they will lose their "gains" but don't understand what glycogen or water weight looks like.
I shit on people a decade or more younger than me while half-assing this life.
>Where are the people who want agile athletic bodies?
Out having sex probably
This. My phone blows up with messages about sundown and i chat and flirt of an evening with a few ladies. I'm slim and muscular and drop in here to see the combo of people who've lost it and the people who vent by trolling them.
If he wasn't wealthy and famous, women would laugh at his body.
>improving your body for women
>Where are the people who want agile athletic bodies?
Reddit
We're over at /run/
This. Also lurking in every martial arts thread.
>martial arts thread
>on IST
Those are some shitty threads. Nothing but coping thirdies.
The ones that are technique/strength/cardio focused are good. The ones that are self defense/best martial art focused are boring.
and /cg/ (calithensics general)
Redpill me on tennis bodies. Why do they look like this?
Because you gotta run for like 4 hours straight, what do you expect?
You have to be fit to play tennis but that's not what makes a good player. Hitting is all technique and positioning, there are 5th graders that can serve harder than any juiced up IST poster ever could. The rest of what makes a good tennis player is all mental, it's a head to head sport so youre not so much playing good tennis but playing well against another player. Its more like chess or fencing, than another sport like soccer or basketball or something
because their arms are dyel, and are unworthy of respect.
Wouldn't even call this athletic. This is fucking average.
They are professional athletes, chud
Athletes? For What? Esports?
Tennis
>The Goat isn't athletic
Certified reddit moment
Elite tennis requires elite cardio.
why would I want an agile athletic body if I am not an athlete? A muscular natty physique is far more advantageous to me because it's fun lifting weight and you significantly increase your attractiveness.
> significantly increase your attractiveness
These guys would look worse if they didn't lift.
Playing sports is fun and playing coed sports is shooting fish in a barrel for picking up fit women
>because it's fun lifting weight
this, ygmi
This is my goal body. 130lbs
>my goal body is a cartoon
jesus fucking christ i cant with you people
get some self-awareness, for your own sake
What's wrong with that? It's a human body. At least it's not something unnaturally cliche like baki or guts or goku
My hody pretty much looks like the op and I feel smol af. I am, however, quite agile. In any case I'm willing to sacrifice a little agility to be a bit more swol. I'm not interested in looking roided. Peak natty is ideal for me
>athletic
This is athletic
Need a pair of rings to get those joocy ceps
That's a middle-aged bald black man on steroids, the US beauty ideal.
finally a moron. black kings always aesthetic
Is he in his 40s?
I'm basically going for that surfer/skater/lean vod mode
A few reasons off the top of my head:
- A lot of the men in the gym got started lifting because they got sick of being Mr spooky or fat. Their idea of a strong/fit male is often a weak man's idea of a strong man. Lot of ripped guys with thin necks.
-Being large and muscular is a Katana, it was super overhyped for a long time, then people recoiled too far the opposite direction and try to act like there are no real world advantages to being 6'2 200lbs @14% vs the guy in op. Being big and strong is super cool, and very useful, socially.
You get all the groceries in one trip, forcing your way out of a rear naked by answering the phone, really any physical endeavor, except endurance sports, is better met with a lean body and well developed musculature than muh superior speed body.
-Being jacked is what the Swarm demands right now, you gotta be bigger to stand out, especially on social media. Zooms pop sarms like candy and if you want to compete as a fellow What's Animaniacs?, you will feel pressure to as well.
Yeah, it's usually silly getting big like a dude with a pro card, but almost nobody does that, even roiders. The point of diminishing returns on muscle mass isn't until well past "toned skinny guy", Naruto lied.
I want to add that I'm not a roider or justifying becoming large at the expense of your life, only arguing that going wayyy past OP is totally worth it. I am not quite to my natty limit, but I won't stop till I'm there, God willing.
>really any physical endeavor, except endurance sports, is better met with a lean body and well developed musculature than muh superior speed body.
OP btfo
why would i want a body a 13 year old boy can achieve ? im a grown adult
>Why does everyone here want huge clumsy roided freak bodies?
Nobody here does?
IST is a natty straight white male christian board. It's the trolls or a few mentally ill trannies who want to inject themselves with hormones to be huge or powershitters who can't stop eating who are trolling.
Everyone knows that ascended ottermode (85-90% natural muscle potential) at 12% bodyfat is the ideal body (pic related).
> natty straight white male christian board
You’re delusional
I'm white sirs
You're delusional, chud.
That's not a natty body. One would need at least a year on gear.. or 5 years+ natty to even get close to that
And that 5years should be when you 17-22 yo
>not a natty body
>unless you train for five years
So a fucking natty body then. Fuck off with your demoralisation bollocks, not everyone has shitty genetics
You forgot to mention the whores who come here to distract and confuse with lustful images. They desire us to worship them
This board is primarily populated by asocial gymcels. Robotically going to the gym and tracking numbers comes much more naturally to them than playing a social outdoor sport.
i used to look like picrel
women and generally everyone treats you like shit because they think you're weak
getting buffer you can see the change in attitudes towards you from everyone
because of two things:
>IST is the most homosexual board on this website
>cutting fucking sucks so people would rather permabulk than get down to <15% bf
simple as
fucking sucks so people would rather permabulk than get down to <15% bf
>simple as
Cutting is fun as fuck if you're just doing shitloads of some kind of cardio you actually enjoy and eating normally.
Muscles are cool.
As a man, the reason we strive to look like meat machines is because... Well, eventually, it'll be "enough." Enough to please most women and impress most men. Enough for us to protect our wives and children from harm, or to secure them if we have none. Enough for us to be so satisfied with our accomplishments that we can finally forgive ourselves, and cease remembering past mistakes. Enough for us to set a good example for others. Enough for us to look at the sky and ask, "Father, are you looking down on me? Have I become strong? Are you proud of me?" Enough that we won't go insane with grief and regret in the final moments of our lives, thinking "If only I'd done more!" Natty or roider, it doesn't matter... We all lift for the same thing, and that thing is "enough." The only thing is, that none of us know what "enough" looks like. Shredded physiques are a dime a dozen. They don't impress us like they should. Anybody can look that way, if you watch what you eat and move around a little. But we see the statues of greater men than ourselves, we hear stories about them, and about the labors they undertook to become that way... And we can't help but think to ourselves, "Yeah, that's enough." If you really think about it, that's the whole of human history. It's an innocent motivation. We just want enough.
That's called insecurity not motivation. Motivation is when you do something because it excites you not because you need for it to eventually be "enough"
Maybe I'm speaking too much for the general public, but doesn't the prospect of getting everything you want and being satisfied with yourself excite you?
Alright this is based, I kneel.
Don't need it.
you are a gay, theres never enough self improvement, please have a nice day, lazy bum
>As a man, the reason we strive to look like meat machines is because... Well, eventually, it'll be "enough." Enough to please most women and impress most men. Enough for us to protect our wives and children from harm, or to secure them if we have none. Enough for us to be so satisfied with our accomplishments that we can finally forgive ourselves, and cease remembering past mistakes. Enough for us to set a good example for others. Enough for us to look at the sky and ask, "Father, are you looking down on me? Have I become strong? Are you proud of me?" Enough that we won't go insane with grief and regret in the final moments of our lives, thinking "If only I'd done more!" Natty or roider, it doesn't matter... We all lift for the same thing, and that thing is "enough." The only thing is, that none of us know what "enough" looks like. Shredded physiques are a dime a dozen. They don't impress us like they should. Anybody can look that way, if you watch what you eat and move around a little. But we see the statues of greater men than ourselves, we hear stories about them, and about the labors they undertook to become that way... And we can't help but think to ourselves, "Yeah, that's enough." If you really think about it, that's the whole of human history. It's an innocent motivation. We just want enough.
Seek professional help.
Hoe does he have zero pec muscles
i dont want to climb trees, i want to slap them down
Basically anyone who isnt american AND isn't under the age of 18 AND has an IQ over 100 can understand that agility but most importantly heart health mogs looking like a lump of roided meat and looks better. In Europe it's common knowledge
Why are Americans like that?
Go into the daily physique thread and look at the height of men striving for gigantic, bodybuilder like builds compared to those who're satisfied with just a fit, good proportion build.
That should tell you everything you need to know.
Every twink can be "atheletic" but very few people can actually be "big" and at the end of the day mating is for genetic distribution
I want to bench 500 and still be able to run a 5 minute mile. Simple as.
That’s not happening dude. 300lbs and a sub 5 mile might be doable
i'll take either. I'm so desperate and lonely
goblina is that you?
post real tennis player
I did. Djokovic is the greatest tennis player of all time. His body is peak athleticism
plenty of people want agile athletic bodies its just that muscles are an easier way to peacock that you're "fit"
generally speaking muscles are easier to achieve comparatively because all you have to do is lift weights and eat properly vs being "agile athletic" requires significantly more practice in advanced motor movements and endurance in some capacity
normies think that muscles = athleticism but if you're knowledgable you'll know that movement = athleticism
This is the most dyel I’ve looked and yet I got more attention from women during this point than now lmfao. Gymcels really are full of cope
how do you look now?
Apologies for the shitty lighting
you got that bbc
you're jacked
BBC is not a meme after all
I look good from just doing a lot of hiking and rucking. I'm already tall and wide shouldered, I realised after a year or 2 I really don't need to artificially induce hypertrophy through some autistic spreadsheet bullshit plan. Or be a glutton. Bodybuilding was invented by a garden gnome 100 years ago, it's better to go with the tried and true methods healthy people have always used. I also lift stones and do calisthenics. Embrace an ancient warrior larp rather than some gay hollywood larp.
I'm just not into the effete, soft-penis, debutante look of someone who is paid millions of dollars to play a lawn game. Strength and stamina athletes like rugby players (pic related) or ice hockey players are my goal; the ultimate combination of strength, endurance, and chad looks.
forgot pic related
>effete, soft-penis
before I ever stepped foot into a gym
>omg anon, how come skinny guys have the biggest dicks
they don't, i just do lol
Getting to like roided out meathead levels is like a power fantasy thing because it’d be fun to imagine the contrast between that and what I looked like before lifting, but I’d only want to be that big for like a short time and go back to a normal size.
2 year of natty lifting are worth it
nah that’s all i want too. i’ll never be a big guy
Seethe harder dyel