Why does nobody else at my gym do OHP? Posted on April 8, 2023 by Anonymous Why does nobody else at my gym do OHP?
Why is that man using such a wide grip?
Why aren’t you?
To focus delts instead of triceps
the artist did it that way so you can see the highlighted muscles (educational purposes)
I noticed I'm the only one at my gym who does them as well, everyone else does seated dumbbell presses
Dumbbells are less stress on your shoulders and you can’t point your elbows more inward for a better positioning that’s why bodybuilders prefer them but average gym goers may prefer also because it’s more casual and of course you have back support
The only time I've ever injured myself in the gym is doing DB shoulder press. I was out of the gym for 2 weeks. Got back in, did normal routine, then hit DB shoulder press and injured myself again. I have never had any issue standing standing OHP.
I think standing is safer because your entire body is focused on completing the movement and setting up a solid foundation, even in the legs and core. When you're seated, your lower half AND back is relaxed and you have less stability from your body. You're deferring this stability to a bench and basically doing an isolation exercise. This is not only objectively inferior and suboptimal, but it can also be really hard on your back if you so much as slightly slip in form pushing heavy numbers.
My rotator cuff pain has disappeared since I started training my OHP numbers. I used to not even be able to properly bench press because of the pain and it got really bad. I haven't felt rotator cuff pain in almost a year now since I incorporated OHP into my routine. So you are clearly incorrect.
I will defend OHP as the only true S-tier lift until my dying breath.
>My rotator cuff pain has disappeared since I started training my OHP numbers. I used to not even be able to properly bench press because of the pain and it got really bad. I haven't felt rotator cuff pain in almost a year now since I incorporated OHP into my routine. So you are clearly incorrect.
>I will defend OHP as the only true S-tier lift until my dying breath.
Based as fuck
I would go as far to say that OHP helps heal any shoulder issues, my shoulders always feel better after doing them, especially behind the neck press. Scapular upward rotation is a very important function of the shoulders, if it is poor you'll end up with shoulder impingement (which is why I think so many people get shoulder impingement from behind the neck press: their ability to upwardly rotate their shoulders is very weak, so they load up too much weight and destroy their shoulders. But if they started with super light weight and worked their way up, they would actually get more resilient shoulders)
Probably cause it fucks up your rotator cuff and causes shoulder injury. Half repping sure go ahead not fully locking out and stopping below the nose so your elbows are at 90
you don't need to do ohp.
side raises, incline, seated db shoulder press, overhead pressing machines, etc
damn you're stupid
>retarded 1pl8 ohp dyels respond with cope and seethe
What's your ohp
Not him mine is 240lb and 275lb seated I stopped doing it for dumbbells and machines. Still a fun lift though
hahahaha yeah ok mine is 3 plates
my point was that you don't need to, not that you should never do it. never doing it is fine though because other things cover it
depends on the machine honestly. ive done geeat ones and shitty ones
depends on the machine. panatta machines are the best ive used so far. keep in mind many bodybuilders have moved to only machines
Fake natty (9) detected, like Bugenhagen you should stop the juicing at this point, would suck to see you -ACKing yourself before 40 even, you already look mid 50s in your recent posts
Or you could also just carry on juicing and leaving a big coffin behind
420 OVHP ? Dafuq. Post it.
You can do both OHP and the exercises you mentioned, you know? It's just weird to specifically and explicitly leave out the best shoulder exercise from your shoulder routine. Except the ohp machine, fuck that shit, completely unnecessary. I'm not commending my rotator cuffs to a rigorous machine.
cope and seethe
do you really think there's a difference in the muscle being hit in barbell vs dumbell ohp
it's the same fucking movement
>you don't need to do ohp
>you just need to do 3 more exercises to (badly) replicate the benefits of OHP
Wow man, now you're gonna say that i don't need to bench press, just do dumbbell bench press, pec deck, bench press machine, right? Lmaoing @ u. Confront your phobia of barbells.
The beginner hitting his 1pl8 ohp thinking he knows everything
The real answer is behind the neck press on one session, and OHP on the other session. Not complicated
literally only DYELs do this lift at the gym though
>overhead pressing machine
Fucks your shoulders up more than any OHP variation
>you don't need to do ohp.
>seated db shoulder press, overhead pressing machines,
I wish I could find you and cave your skull in with a barbell
Obviously the normies are all training for powerlifting
80% of people who go to the gym have no idea what they're doing.
They just talk, take selfies, and fart.
how the fuck did you know? I was silent
Because seated OHP is a much superior movement for front delts and tricep hyperthrophy.
Bench is a better lift for pure ego of liftuing big numbers.
its the lift that separates boys from men
my dick is 21cm and i ohp 70kg for 8
>gonna OHP 110 lbs next monday
When can I start being proud of my lift?
You're doing better than most already. When you can fraud 1 plate to normies with a 35 on each side, you can feel a slight tingle of pride, when you make it to 1 plate you fan be proud. When you can yeet a grown man over a fence is when you will radiate pure charisma.
I'm on 40kg and I dont if I can make it 45kg. Made me realise how useless deadlifts are. I can deadlift my own body weight with ease but can barely lift 88ib OHP.
>bench press is useless because i curl less weight
Satanic logical check
deadlifting your body weight is something a lot of people can do the first time they try the lift
first time I OHP'd I could barely get through 5 reps with 5lbs added on each side of the bar
>hit 130 pounds for 3 reps this week
>supposed to hit 135 next week
>have failed 135 for 1 and deloaded several times
The fear of failure... it motivates me
I finally hit 1 plate for 6 reps but I don't feel like it's impressive, although I've never seen anyone lift more in my gym
just hit this too, feels pathetic, need 225x5 on it tbh
Do I have to do them with an Olympic bar? My gym have shorter bar which weight way less than an Olympic bar, are these enough? What about ez bars?
Also I'm always afraid of doing the movement wrong and imagine that the whole gym will make fun of me...
Shit hurts my shoulder
I have found most people use machines or dumbbells for generally everything
Do front squats + ohp instead if you don't squat regularly. Its actually how you squat and use the squat in a real world setting.
I might need to dtop doing heavy OHp because my shoulders are sounding crunchy. Big sad, I really enjoy it. Gotta build up my back a lot more before I can come back to it I suppose.
try btn press
no clicky for me
Oh yeah totally, let me do the exercises that's known to fuck up your shoulders even more than the regular version. Fuck you, I hope you die of bone cancer.
I was nervous too so I started with just the bar
I'm up to 105 now, feels a lot more natural than regular ohp
It's not. It puts pressure on the back of your neck.
I don't really know what you mean
Fuck you. Wha the fuck is it with this influx of anons giving advice to fucking cripple people.
Lots of anons have been injured doing regular ohp too
can i still do military presses if i never served?
Because it doesn't do anything
I know this is bait but I still get annoyed every time.
My shoulders and biceps are none existent but I can BB curl 60kg without leaning back and OHP 80kg. Wtf is my problem.
>do classic ohp for years
>simple and satisfying yet effective
>casual back pain appears despite trying my hardest to do it with a proper form
>don't do ohp for a week
>back pain disappears
>had to replace it with lame-ass seated ohp with two one-handed dumbells
Sorry ohp bros, I've failed you.
Its not form. Its mismanagement of fatigue. The combined work of everything using your lower back adds lower back fatigue and your ohp sent it over its threshold. Its no the movement, its not the form, its the totality of your workout routine.
I feel you. My left shoulder just started clicking. Today is push day. Gonna drop down on all my weight and go slow and focus on form.
and another suffering the fate of the ppl
OHP is possibly not the issue, but low bar back squats are (atleast they were for me)
the OHP is safe for the shoulders given that you are properly holding the barbell (quite narrow grip unlike the OP picture)
this, i do ppl and ohp/deadlift feels fine but squats will murder your lower back and shoulders
You are a lucky girl, anon, because I know what it most likely is and it's an easy fix.
You probably lack thoracic spine flexibility. Google some exercises for that and your pain will be gone in no time.
Small number lift makes dyels self conscious
When you get into a more advanced late intermediate strength level, Its really not a movement you should do regularly. It takes a back seat in most peoples programming because of the cost/benefit ratio. It causes a ton of shoulder mileage for most people (more than the bench does). Rotating it in here and there is fine, but it should not be a staple. If you want to keep lifting for a long time you have to train smart. The cool thing is you can get your OHP stronger without even doing the movement.
This is complete bullshit. OHP and it’s variations don’t cause a lot of fatigue. Every weight sport outside of powershitting uses some variation of OHP to train shoulders. I can say from experience too that even when I could bench 275 at 175lbs my OHP was pathetic until I started to train it regularly swapping it with bench and once I did it that grew to BW, while my bench stayed about the same even with only ever being done once a month
My point wasnt that you can never ever do OHP, just to be smart about where you place it in your program.
In November I hit 100lb db overhead presses for 3 x 15 after only 2.5 weeks of swapping db shoulder presses back into my program. In July of last year I hit a 205 x 10 barbell overhead press by following a similar 3 week wave approach. other than that I did no pressing for the rest of the year, just tons of tricep volume and focusing on my other lifts.
If I can maintain and even build my overhead press strength by doing other lifts like JM press and other tricep movements (that cause less shoulder mileage) why would i smash barbell presses year round? What am i gaining from that?
It's just a shit exercise, but of course everyone here has to take pride in being contrarian
I do one armed DB OHP due to not being assed to spend money on the gym.
I'm 61kg and do 12kg with them atm. But I don't OHP much
>really commit to OHP
>is now my proportionally strongest lift
>mogs my other lifts
>started 65 lb now at 115 lb in like 2 months
>140lb 5" 10"
How come it raised so fast but my other shit doesn't? I'm just doing 5x5
Good job, anon. Keep at it
how did you improve on OHP?
ive been lifting for 4 months but can only do almost 1pl8 bench, 2pl8 deadlift but my OHP is abysmal
I don't really know to be super honest. None of my other lifts progressed like it. It's always the first thing I do on an upper body day. I start it at like 85 for 10 then do drop sets of 5 from 115 as required. The last set I put a weight I can get at least 5 and then go to failure. I'll push press in that last set too.
Whenever I do OHP I always do rear delts and rows same day.
your everything is abysmal
don't worry about your lifts being proportional just yet
you will get stronger in everything by doing anything at your stage
Unless you're barely lifting once a week, you need to try eating more
>1rm for OHP is 200 lbs
>pr'ed WHILE cutting
>literally one of the strongest pressers at my gym, despite not nearly being the biggest person there
Feels good man
Also I do them exclusively standing with a barbell.
I can OHP 70kg and bench 85
Standing OVHP hurts the fuck out of the muscle right below my right trap. I just do seated OVHP with BB or DB.
>nobody besides me and gym bro do ohp
>despite us both being dyel we get mires
>enter normie gym
>load up 2pl8 at shoulder height
>ppl think you're gonna squat
>press that shit overhead for 5
feels good bros
not particularly strong, but I managed 55kg for my working sets today at x5. I love this lift.
> 85kg 1RM OHP at 80kg BW
Too much strain on the back of my neck when I start fatiguing. It's the only movement I replace with dumbbells.