Why dont people train muscular endurance more?

Why don’t people train muscular endurance more?

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  1. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Idk why they don't. I feel it builds more functional muscle. It seems a lot of athletes do endurance.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Functional strength?

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        That's some next-level zanshin.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        >the luckiest chink

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >functional muscle
      What does that mean? How can a muscle be trained unfunctionally?

  2. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Because it doesn't fricking matter. Imagine fighting someone. Would you rather have 500 weak punches or 5 strong punches?

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      For fighting, endurance is just not, if not more, important than raw strength.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Just as*

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Endurance and flexibility only matter if strength is relative.
        If someone has a clear strength advantage, there is little either can do to advantage.

        >newbies don't even know about flexibility training
        Try arm barring or balling up someone who is just as strong with their arm bent backwards as you are with full mechanical advantage.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Ok bud

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          And Nogueira beat Sapp

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Kek
      This exact mentality is what got Eddie Hall's ass beat by Thor in the boxing ring. Eddie looked like he was training like the fight was supposed to be some 1RM hard punch contest.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        To be fair he knocked Thor clean on his ass. Thor just isn't a normal guy.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        there wasn't a significant strength difference there

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Thats not a good example, it was a pretty close fight.

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          Eddie got clobbered =D wtf are all the b***h powerlifters etc on about when they can't handle the pain endurance training induces

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      You better hope then one of those 5 punches land and knock them out then or otherwise its going to be a long night lol. Endurance is without a doubt more important for a fight

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      t. Someone who's never been in a fight

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Imagine fighting someone.
      I'm a wealthy white man in a first world country. There is no situation where I would ever have cause to "fight someone". Humans have also invented these useful weapons called "guns" and if by some freak occurrence I get randomly attacked on the street, I'll be shooting the person attacking me rather than throwing punches and hoping I don't get stabbed.

      Lifting as self-defense is one of the stranger motivations, probably from guys who got bullied in school and spend their time at the gym imagining that they're getting strong enough to fight back against their bullies.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      bla bla bla bla MUH FIGHTING lmao

      no fight happens in real life
      most people want peace and solve issues peaceful, violence is never an option

      i can see you are NEET

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      >moron who's never being into a violent situation thinks fights are like sumo matches
      Kek

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Professional fighters max out everything (raw strenght, technique, mental and physical endurance, tactics, cardio...) in order to be effective. Guess what marines/soldiers do? A shit ton of endurance training.
      Real life is not like a RPG where an autistic pure strenght built is viable.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Kek, In my 15 years of muay thai and boxing every single person says the same thing after they're first competitive fight: I should have done more cardio

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        They should've done more sparring cardio, lol.

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          Boxing is unironically the most intensive and demanding cardio I've ever done. More than crossfit or hiit.

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah that's the exact mindset that everyone has before they're first fight. They think I'll just do enough hard sparring and my cardio should be good for a 3 x 2min round amateur fight. It never is.

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              Meant for

              They should've done more sparring cardio, lol.

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              how much cardio is enough?
              i run like 5-10km every day in the morning

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                That's actually the right amount depending on how young and competitive you want to get with. At least 5km every morning if you want to go hard at it. I liked to do 4-6km and finish with a good amount of hard hill sprints on the longest steppest hill near me too. The highest I've ever got my heart rate was on those air assualt bikes, they are great. Rower HIIT etc.

                The reason people completely gas out in 3 x2 min round despite that they might regularly do 9 or more 3min rounds sparring round robin style in class is all because of the adrenaline dump and breathing. Swimming and breathwork is underrated. Personally, I'm a big fan of mouth tape while you sleep and every so often whille running or doing bag work. This significantly dropped my resting heart and increased my HRV after trying it.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      Its boring. I have to do high reps because I'm a neet with low dumbbell weight. It's very tough mentaly.

      High rep work also builds strength if your pushing your muscles to near failure.
      If you are doing high weight with low reps it also builds endurance.

  3. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    I always work 12 reps because 12 is my favourite number

  4. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Same reason people don't like cardio as much. It's much more mentally taxing and requires greater willpower to push through while also not catering to your ego with muh big numbahz
    Building a good strength base then switching to endurance/conditioning will give most people an good balance between raw strength, athleticism, and aesthetics.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      I disagree. I find high reps easier and less of an exhausted feel than doing heavy 3 rep sets

  5. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Endurance doesn't attract attention like strength, so it does nothing for egotards. As for normal people, they're happy with a balance inbetween the two.

  6. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Endurance is more about how long you can exercise. Doing 20 reps of push ups in the same amount of time it would take you to do 5 reps of heavy bp will get you no more endurance than doing that heavy bp.

    12-20 reps is still useful for building strength, especially for reinforcing movement patterns which eventually let you lift heavier.

  7. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's not possible to separate endurance and strength like that these graphs are fricking moronic dyel shit.
    Usually, this kind of misinformation isnt harmful if you workout at the gym, or with equipment that let's you adjust load to what you need. But sometimes it is.
    Point being if you're strong you're going to have more endurance with lighter weights.
    If you want endurance just do cardio and do hypertrophy work

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >it's not possible to separate endurance and strength

  8. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    I do this a lot. It's called CrossFit. But I skip all the bullshit like Muscle Ups or Hand stand walks. Doing a lot OLY CrossFit. I recently went to a BJJ class, which was usually tiring for me, but it felt more recreational than work outy. It is absolute GOAT to train this way. You will get an incredible body AND you will become an absolute engine (Power, Speed, Endurance).

  9. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Get strong to have that one punch knock out power. Most fights on the street last under 30 seconds. Ufc is fake gay and rigged with roid troony subhumans.

  10. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Because it doesn't fricking matter. Imagine fighting someone. Would you rather have 500 weak punches or 5 strong punches?

  11. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's boring, and doesn't do shit to make you stronger, and barely helps with hypertrophy.
    It's the ego lifting of people too broke to afford a gym in most cases, calisthenicsgays acting like their 130 lb. selves doing sets of 60 push-ups is amazing, it's just cope.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Post body

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous
        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          gymcel physique goes crazy you never ran in your life or picked up an awkward object look at those wrists wtf

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            AI generated physique
            You clearly have never done any sort of athletic activity in your life other than gymcelling

            keep seething, i love your negative projected energy hahahha

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              What are we seething about? You look like shit, like completely incapable and dorky

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Kek, the “guy who never played a contact sport in his life and started gymcelling at 26” physique

                im a fighter you seething fatties
                post your bodys
                >you wont

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >I’m a fighter
                The “29 year old man who signed up at a boxing gym and gets his ass kicked sparring teenagers” physique

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                i only talk to people who post their bodys
                bye fatty hahahahahah the nerv on some of your fatties

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          AI generated physique
          You clearly have never done any sort of athletic activity in your life other than gymcelling

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          Kek, the “guy who never played a contact sport in his life and started gymcelling at 26” physique

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            AI generated physique
            You clearly have never done any sort of athletic activity in your life other than gymcelling

            gymcel physique goes crazy you never ran in your life or picked up an awkward object look at those wrists wtf

            Why do you think it is "sedentary kid started gymceling as an adult" physique?

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              weak wrists no obliques or abs even in gym lightning

              https://i.imgur.com/kXtZBcN.png

              >it's not possible to separate endurance and strength

              If you go to failure you'll gain strength no matter the reps. I dont expect a dyel with shit cardio to understand doe

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                >If you go to failure you'll gain strength no matter the reps. I dont expect a dyel with shit cardio to understand doe
                t. 5plates deadlift at best

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Technically he's correct as long as you have a block that has low reps to push your strength occasionally.
                This whole thread is dumb tho because any non beginner program written in the last 30 years involves training both strength and "endurance" rep ranges.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Technically he's correct
                He's not even remotely correct man, absolute strength is one thing absolute endurance is completely different. At some point No strength training program trains endurance. I have national competitive powerlifters in my gym you will never see them do even as low as 20 rep sets much less fricking endurance. Wish you dyels would stfu about shit you have literally no idea about

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Post your fricking deadlift buddy.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                300kg in 2 years training

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                I hit 585 just before the end of my 2nd year.
                Same day as that vid actually

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                i have 100lb on your max and mine is actually competition standard not hitched

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Post it then

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                I don't post. I don't get what your problem is here, im not saying something controversial. We've know this for a 100 years at this point that strength and endurance are diametrical opposites.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                They aren't thought, that's just reductive reasoning and an argument for poor health choices.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Ok moron

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Post body
                Let's see what a powershitter with no cardio looks like

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Not doing cardio doesn't mean you're fat. Im much leaner than this neanderthal looking subhuman

                Post your fricking deadlift buddy.

                Even deep in a bulk i never got a gut like this

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                What's wrong with looking like a neanderthal?
                I'd hope 2 years ago I was 340

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                You're a fat hairy subhuman, that's what's wrong. You spit in face of esthetics, no amount of odd lift coping gonna change this

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Aesthetic* since we're not sub humans Americans right...
                I mean I'm mostly Greek so it checks out I guess.
                Socrates was famously known to be ugliest man alive in his time

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Don't blame your subhumanity on your race. There's no point to do spelling correction especially in properly written words because you're autistic about specific dialect, you're not even English. Seething moron

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Oh I wasn't, I was claiming I wasn't sub humans. Any issues with my appearance that you may have can be attributed to it, however.
                I'm still waiting for you to actually back up your statements with anything of substance besides insults.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                >I was claiming I wasn't sub humans.
                You're very obviously a fat hairy bespectacled moron. What i say is common sense strength and endurance are diametrical opposites necessarily

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Buddy I'm not a women, insulting how I look has no impact.
                The fact your using it as an insult implies in my mind that you've got some womanish traits

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Esthetics are very important, only genetic dead ends end up rejecting it. Men have admired(literally mired) superior physiques for millennia.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                That's kinda gay ngl

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                That's fine those grapes are probably sour anyway!

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                I mean I have a kid do you?

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Using the lowest common denominator of life achievements as a flex. In the eyes of gynocentrist subhumans being picked for marriage by a roastie is the highest affirmation of their subhuman lives

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Your calling someone a genetic deadend, without having kids. You are quite literally a deadend until you have some.
                Do you have a stable income?
                An education?
                It just seems strange to be this obsessive, I was trolling at the start but I'm legitimately concerned for you now.

                Looks are for the man that lacks competence and intelligence

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                >I was only pretending to be a fat hairy bespectacled redditor

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                Not impressive and you had to hitch it

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                >deadlift
                I dont do that but I have really good genetics for legs both squats and deadlifts were at 100kg for reps without training legs

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                So an literal dyel? Why even choose to speak on the matter?

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              they're all the same poster

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          Do you have slight scoliosis? It looks like there's a curvature but your shoulders level out due to posture. I have it and I've found Scooby has a few informative posts about his case

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          this looks exactly like the type of body I'd imagine someone doing calisthenics would have, why trash your brethren?

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        gymcel physique goes crazy you never ran in your life or picked up an awkward object look at those wrists wtf

        What a fricking moron

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Because it's boring, and doesn't do shit to make you stronger, and barely helps with hypertrophy
      Do a 20 rep squat phase and come back to me. You will see Jesus

  12. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    because they would realize they dont need all that fancy equipment to be healthy and strong
    gyms are just marketing bs

  13. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Lifting bigger weight feels cooler

  14. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    idk. i like to train in the 30+ rep range, because it feels safer but also increases my strength. how wouldn't it? i'm lifting heavier and heavier over time, so i imagine my 1rm would also increase with that.

  15. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    I don't lift exercise.

  16. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    I train 5-12 reps.

  17. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    >12-20 reps is endurance
    >example 50 push-ups
    is this bait?

  18. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not training to plow a field op

  19. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    Is there an ultimate routine to get max strength and endurance, a little bit of size too?
    to be perfectly ready for the army and/or SF?

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      For the army or whatever you need to look at the routines they want you to be good at and train those like they are a test and do a lot of rucking to get into shape for the longer walks and such.

  20. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    As a competitor in World's Strongest Man I don't see how endurance training would be a valuable asset.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      then you are an idiot.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        >didn't watch 1990 wsm

  21. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    I do 10 reps because I am old and have to take it easy with the heavy weights.

    Haven't tried a 1 RM in years, also don't really feel the need to

  22. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    You gotta do both.
    Training only a single energy system is dumb when it's really easy to do a heavy compound followed by volume.
    I know this dude that only does one set of 5 at as high as he can go. He can't even do a 5x5 at 60% of his 5rm. It's ridiculous and he always responds with "it works for me" brother it doesn't you've been stuck on 225 for 5 on bench for a year and you look like the marshmallow man

  23. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    this is a bullshit comparison, all strenght athletes do endurance training as well, apart from fat powershitters apparently, who are not considered athletes anyway, your oly lifters do tons of endurance training, strenght cannot be achieved without endurance training, and powershitting doesnt apply, cause they are just cheating their lifts

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      >all strenght athletes do endurance training as well
      Few do, it doesn't help for strength

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      >strenght cannot be achieved without endurance training
      Imagine being this ignorant in the age where fitness knowledge has never been more accessible and saturating social media

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        You're genuinely ignorant on strength training

        https://barbend.com/high-rep-sets/
        heres some reading for you

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          Your strength gains diminish logarithmically the further you are from a 1rm. Just because you in theory might get a fraction of % strength increase doing+100rep sets doesn't mean it's better than 5 or 10rep sets. You see?

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            did you even read the shit, you do high reps on your accessory lifts, to help with the endurance, so that you can crank up more heavy sets where small muscles give in first, thus you can build more strength, it is quite obvoius you dont hit 100 reps on bench or squats or whatever

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              Small muscles do work isometrically in lower capacity which might be confused as "endurance work". Absolute strength lifts like a 1-10rm do not last long enough to the point where your muscular endurance would be challenged. Thus doing endurance work only serves to build unnecessary fatigue.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      You're genuinely ignorant on strength training

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