Why is Cardio so hated in some parts of the Fitness community?

Why is Cardio so hated in some parts of the Fitness community?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It isn't legitimately it was mostly a meme some people took too seriously.
    That said in the 00s it was kind of common to think lifting was unhealthy for your heart because of roiders and dying left and right from eca stack and fat burners and medical reports lying about it. So there was some console wars kind of bullshit between cardio only people and lifting only people. Right now we're almost in the opposite posistion with a lot of the medical literature pointing to overtraining cardio as being more detrimental and less intense cardio as being preferable for longevity and shorter durations achieving most of the same results. But people will willfully misinterpret this as a " rando indian doctors said i don't have to". It'll probably change again though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What would be the optimal cardio protocol (type, duration, intensity, frequency) for cardiovascular health and blood flow maxxing?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        90 minutes of walking a day is probably the ideal maintence for vascular health.

        Cardio in the aerobic range or higher 60-80 minutes a week 2 to 3 times a week. Is more for increasing your vascular health and lowering your resting hr, bp and getting better blood oxygenation.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I started a virtual 5k training program through my Garmin account and am running it concurrently with my strength routine. So far I never run for more than an hour at a time (and that's just a long easy run once a week). Only been a couple of weeks but anecdotally I do feel better, my resting heartrate is lower than it was before, and instead of killing my gains cardio seems to be improving them. My initial goal was 1/2/3/4 for reps and <24min 5k, and am already there with the weights and closing in on my 5k goal. Depending on how I handle the training load, I may try to train a 10k while maintaining or slightly increasing strength.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >started a virtual 5k training program

          how fat are you?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh no.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're not wrong but he's still better than everyone else who's not doing anything.

            The hate should be directed towards the body-positivity fatsos not the fatsos at the gym trying to do something about their decades of neglect.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Active lifestyle. I never considered myself as someone who did cardio but I checked my phone and my yearly average was 11 000 steps per day. I never went for a "run" or a "walk". I just simply move a lot and do a lot of things. I dont have a car and I rarely use a bike. I commute by foot to work, or school back in the days, grocery store, to cafe, to restaurant to gym, I go everywhere by foot.

        If its winter and I dont go out that much, i do incline treadmill for 15 minutes before training and after training.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Worth noting by "overtrain cardio" it's the people who are basically addicted to marathons. The excessive stress on their cardiovascular system does something like stimulate scar tissue growth and their arteries and veins harden.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is the row machine better than the treadmill? Why do cardiogays love the treadmill so much? I'll tell you why, it's the only exercise they get to swish the sweat between their hairy ass cheeks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because rowing is a fairly unnatural movment with longer learning curve. Everyone knows how to run and does it better the less they think about it. It takes a while to even have the lower back endurance to be able to do rowing in a decent hr range for 15 minutes. So there's a larger base investment before benefit. It's also much less practical than running. I train both but I'd sooner go for an hour run than a hour rowing session. Also rowing usually burns less calories for the time investment which can be good and bad depending on what side of the skeleton/fatty coin you fall on

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        jump rope is better

        Thanks. I was set on buying a rower over a treadmill. I have this already. I noticed every girl I know with no fat on their face runs a lot. So I want to focus on cardio a lot since my face is fat. I read the rower burns more calories but you've both made me think the treadmill is the better option (it's also cheaper)

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          w-whats wrong with her hand?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I can burn 100 calories in 5 minutes on a rowing machine but at a 6.2 mph pace on a treadmill that same 100 calories takes around 10 minutes. Unless you are going balls to the wall looking like a freak on the treadmill I'd say it isn't more efficient.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hiits kind of different since most people aren't going to have a rower or treadmill that can handle that intensity very well. Sprints outside still wind up being the best way simply because it's convenient, cheaper and probably safer for you and your equipment.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Also you'd burn ~100 kcal running 5 minutes at a 5.5 minute mile pace. (for a 150 lb male, for 115 for 175lbs , 130ish for 200lbs lol)

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I can burn *imaginary number* here more than *imaginary* number during the other exercise
          Tell me more about it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      jump rope is better

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They don't hit the same muscles. Try using the rowing machine or elliptical exclusively for a few months and then try to burn those calories on the treadmill, you'll be sore for days

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just like everything, jokes taken too far

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hate using treadmills because they're boring. The only true based cardio machine is the stair master.

    I would probably do cardio all the time if I could swim more often but the pool at my gym is as small as they could possibly make it and is constantly full of elderly more or less just walking across the bottom from end to end

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Stair master is based BUT I have recently discovered this motherfricker at my Uni gym it whoops the shit out of your arms. It's like the stair master for your arms. I went from doing 30 minutes on the stair master to 15 stairmaster, 15 on this. Just imagining I am a longshoremen doing this.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh man I'm jealous, that looks fun

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I never had to do rope climbing in gym class and I'm scared of heights so I'd love to have this.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh shit that's awesome

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fitness dick in yo mouth

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it does little to help people get fit. If you are already out of shape & overweight, without undergoing a massive diet change that MUST have a big caloric deficit, cardio centered efforts will fail.
    >Why?
    Almost everything you burn will be easily replaced by the next few meals. Prolonged cardio triggers the stress response which will prime your body for maximum absorption & storage.
    >What do then?
    Strength building is the best long term solution for weightloss & fitness.
    >Why?
    As your muscle mass grows, your BMR(basal metabolic rate) will increase dramatically. Basically ensuring a passive energy burn.
    >What is cardio good for then?
    Maintenance. Once you reach a certain level of mass, cardio becomes significantly more efficient & useful as the levels of energy you can quickly burn off are much higher. Instead of doing useless prolonged cardio, you do 15-30 minutes of HIIT just to maintain BF% and thats it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i love the pseudo science

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      t. fat powerlifter who can’t walk up some stairs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cardio is more than just calories burned. Its also for general vascular and cognitive health. People obsessed with muscle growth don't seem to care about anything besides body fat though. If you have a cognitively demanding job cardio training is a must.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I get 10k steps per day by living in a walkable city so I don’t bother wasting calories that could’ve gone to muscle recovery on cardio instead.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is Cardio so hated in some parts of the Fitness community?
    Because Amerimutts are obese.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand why people go to a gym and pay money to run on a grey machine, looking at some wall. It seems so potsmodern and depressing.

    Like boy, just put on some sneakers and go to the street/fields/outdoors whatever, run in your city, town, nature, breathe fresh air and see the surroundings of the real world

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is moronic, running on the concrete will wreck your knees after a while, treadmill has way less impact and ur not aging ur face for being in the sun.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        have we all gone crazy? how is running on a machine more "natural" or preferable than running outdoors? have you heard about running shoes? those reduce the impact enough

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why not? You've already paid to lift there. You don't have to spend more gas to drive out to some park or go run in a world of already distracted drivers. Most of these gyms go in on the on the ones with tvs or have tvs all over. I chromecast shit to their unlocked tvs all the time. No one gives a shit as long as it's not something perverse. Just chilling out going for a 8 miler watching star trek or xena

        Even housecats want to play outside given the chance

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And rats shower in the rain la ti da
          If you want to go outside and have a magical time do it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >running on the concrete will wreck your knees after a while
        I've been running on concrete near daily for three years now and I'm still waiting for my knees to be wrecked, feels bad

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Two more years

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why not? You've already paid to lift there. You don't have to spend more gas to drive out to some park or go run in a world of already distracted drivers. Most of these gyms go in on the on the ones with tvs or have tvs all over. I chromecast shit to their unlocked tvs all the time. No one gives a shit as long as it's not something perverse. Just chilling out going for a 8 miler watching star trek or xena

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hate running around outside. If I had a nice park or something in easy accessible distance maybe but otherwise it's having to wait for lights, cars blaring past you, ugly surroundings and a lot of the time it's not easy to loop back on certain paths
      I can properly zone out on a treadmill which I can't outside while waiting for racks or benches to open up

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I get that, maybe I'm biased because I live in a city that has a super long pedestrian street along the sea, so I can just run there for 1h and it's very pleasant and easy

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because racing heart feel bad

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's mentally straining to do the same repetitive activity for prolonged periods of time.
    Weak willed gets filtered and miss on health gains.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I go on a spinning bike for 40 mins once a week, it's boring but makes me feel good. Supposedly the difference between HIIT and LISS is small so I'll go with the easy option.

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