Why is fatigue so bad again? Isn't fatiguing how we build muscle?

Why is fatigue so bad again?
Isn't fatiguing how we build muscle? What the frick is this Stimulus to Fatigue Ratio bullshit?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, I have no idea. I think most people are just pansies.
    I just train hard, and chase the feeling of being sore/tired. Seems to work pretty well, and it's fun.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think you people ever been fatigued. Fatigue isn't "exhausted from a workout." You'd know when you're fatigued because you could barely move for days.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Okay then, fatigue doesn't occur if you actually train properly

        Fatigue will happen if your anabolic rhyth is not trained/tolerant and youll expwri3nce it e.g. first time lifting.
        But once you are adept lifter, your body burns energy like a machine.
        So if you feel heavy fatigue NOW i lt means you are overbhrning your machine.
        Its like constatly flooring your car red light ti red light

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Fatigue is a scale, not a yes or no thing

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    because fatigue can be from anything, not just working out.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe you have a high tolerance for it. Ever had a squat and/or deadlift hangover that lasts for days because you went too hard? It's like your brain is at 70% and you feel weak and maybe a little nauseous. It fricks with your training schedule.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine in the middle of a set no having the strength to finish or even injuring yourself.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Fatigue is bad tho. It's a side effect of training, but if we could do without we would,
    It spikes cortisol and dampens growth. Also stops you from training more.
    You can't train without fatigue, you can't train while fatigued... It's an obvious target for optimization.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >you can't train while fatigued
      Yes I can.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not with the same intensity tho.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes I can.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Then your regular intensity is too low.
            You can do better than that. So do better.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >your regular intensity is too low.
              I max out most days. Not sure how to increase my intensity beyond that.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There's probably something wrong with the other aspects of your life. Hop on pre-workout and see what you're actually capable of and you'll be surprised how much you were actually leaving out.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There's something wrong with every aspect of my life, and I already do have excessive amounts of preworkout/energy drinks throughout the day.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                are you maxing out on compound lifts or are you just doing accessories

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                See

                I do snatches, clean and jerks and squats every day. I only occasionally do cable tricep pushdowns for elbow health.

                I'll usually max out at least one of those lifts. Sometimes I'll take it a bit easier, but still get up to at least 80% for triples or something.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                By everyday do you mean literally 7 days a week? If so, you gotta give yourself rest days or you're not gonna let your muscles actually grow

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >By everyday do you mean literally 7 days a week?
                Yes.
                >you gotta give yourself rest days or you're not gonna let your muscles actually grow
                Nah, I don't take advice from dyels.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Isn't fatiguing how we build muscle
    no
    Fatigue is a sensation due to stimulus. It's not 'bad' it just means you have to recover. Recovery comes BEFORE growth. So just go eat and sleep.

    Any training schedule that has you in the gym more than twice a week is not only redundant but actively restrictive of growth. Unless youre only trying to lose weight.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Any training schedule that has you in the gym more than twice a week is not only redundant but actively restrictive of growth. Unless youre only trying to lose weight.

      moronic.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    People who don't understand fatigue on a personal level usually have never played a sport or done a significant amount of cardio.
    Fatigue is not something you have to worry about if you're doing some pissy bodybuilding routine with less than 3 hours a week of actually time spent working out. It's not even really a factor for you unless you're not sleeping or are dieting in an extreme way.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's also something you get used to dealing with and pushing through if you played a sport.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Sports training is usually structured in a way to increase your fatigue threshold and has periods to relieve it completely. It's not just a more more more thing unless your coach is putting you guys on peds or trying to find and cut the weakest people on the team.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Not sure about other sports, but in swimming it was absolutely just a "more more more" thing.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Gotta do anything for that high school letterman jacket.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Fatigue is not something you have to worry about if you're doing some pissy bodybuilding routine with less than 3 hours a week of actually time spent working out
      I think I could probably program a 3 hour routine which would frick most people up
      A lot of dumb intensity workouts put ridiculous stress on your heart and joints to make the number in the title as short as possible

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        But would it be a bodybuilding routine then or just some crossshitter thing?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Well if it's body builder specific then it's hopeless because of that 3 hours they'll spend 2 hours and 57 minutes resting between sets.

          Supersetting heavy compound leg exercises like squats or alternatively stuff like good mornings for 15s and upper body rows that put stress on your lower back would be enough to take most people out I think.
          If you layer on top of that hitting like 2 or 3rms for upper body to failure with 8rm and 12rm drop sets also to failure then I think that's also probably too much for most people.
          Even after all of that if you're going quickly enough (and you should be supersetting basically everything if you want this to be too much) then you'll still have time to do some core exercises like candlesticks or leg raises to failure at the end of each session.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You... just described the routine I built for myself, almost to a T. I don't know what to think. I've posted it before: it's a 2 hour routine for a reason. Am I fricking up?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Been fatigued from a full body hybrid routine when I was starting out - went all out doing all the heavy lifts every time and doing cycling sprints in between with long ass runs sprinkled in the mix. After three weeks I was complete b***h mode and could barely function, I dreaded the thought of working out and felt like hell immediately afterwards.

      Soreness? That's fine. Fatigue? Fricking sucks.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    all the guys in this thread saying they just push through it cause they have the alpha mentality are just homosexuals who do some shitty cable exercise to failure and think they're a god of strong mentality, if you actually do heavy shit like squats and deadlifts your body will give up before your mind does. That means either injuries or overexertion or you getting weaker

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I do snatches, clean and jerks and squats every day. I only occasionally do cable tricep pushdowns for elbow health.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        alright then you're a homosexual doing weightlifting so helping you is a waste of time since you're already lost

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      alright then you're a homosexual doing weightlifting so helping you is a waste of time since you're already lost

      Ask me how I know you're fat.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ask me how I know you're a beta

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Post body, tubby.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you don’t understand fatigue you NEVER trained at your limit.

    Pathetic

    F to S ratio: every exercise creates fatigue and stimulus. If you work hard enough not all fatigue will disperse before the next workout a d the fatigue will now accumulate and eventually lead to overtraining with its symptoms.

    Now this is of course beyond 99% of this board but understanding F to S ratio means you can customize your workout to your needs and optimize growth. Want to focus on legs? Swap out regular squad and replace it with hack squad. The latter has less fatigue and removes upper body. You want to work out quads but already did squats this week so you are already pretty fatigued? Do leg extensions who have high stimulus and low fatigue, etc etc

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Fatigue accumulation will always outpace your ability to shed it on any routine with enough stimulus to cause growth beyond the novice stages. It's why deloads, all manner of periodization, and rotating mesocycles exist.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Temporary muscular fatigue is good, it means you've reached failure for that set.
      Muscle soreness is good as it's generally a decent indicator that you've worked the correct muscles and worked them adequately enough to make someone gains.
      Whole body fatigue, especially the day after probably means you haven't recovered well enough from your last session. Usually due to either lack of proper rest, not enough nutrition, or compounding fatigue through overtraining.

      Fatigue accumulation will always outpace your ability to shed it on any routine with enough stimulus to cause growth beyond the novice stages. It's why deloads, all manner of periodization, and rotating mesocycles exist.

      A good program considers individual context and an experienced lifter will adjust programming to suit their own needs as situations change. A noob doesn't need to worry about deloads or cycles, let alone exercise alternation / variations, as their rate of adaptation and level of awareness won't be nearly as high as a lifelong lifter.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Temporary muscular fatigue is good, it means you've reached failure for that set.
    Muscle soreness is good as it's generally a decent indicator that you've worked the correct muscles and worked them adequately enough to make someone gains.
    Whole body fatigue, especially the day after probably means you haven't recovered well enough from your last session. Usually due to either lack of proper rest, not enough nutrition, or compounding fatigue through overtraining.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get why he's doing this and it looks like it's making him lose his mind sometimes but for all I know it's the only thing keeping him sane. I respect him even though he's like an alien to me.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      wrong thread btw, my brain stopped working apparently, I think it's time for a little deload

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If muscle breakdown is greater than protein synthesis you will not grow.
    Nobody wants to be the guy who trains hard 6 days a week but doesn’t grow at all.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Fatigue will happen if your anabolic rhyth is not trained/tolerant and youll expwri3nce it e.g. first time lifting.
    But once you are adept lifter, your body burns energy like a machine.
    So if you feel heavy fatigue NOW i lt means you are overbhrning your machine.
    Its like constatly flooring your car red light ti red light

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldn't be surprised Crossfit is based around speed and fatigue.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You build muscle (mostly) by performing muscle contractions with a lot of force. When you have fatigue the signals to your muscles are downregulated to prevent damage so the contractions won't be as forceful.

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