Why is finasteride promoted now?

You guys realise chuds take that same drug in higher doses to transition right?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cardio
    Amla oil
    Microneedling

    Done

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >meme
      >snake oil
      >another meme
      >done

      K.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Microneedling actually does work, although without fin/dut its basically filling a leaky bucket. Cardio = less stress and better bloodflow so marginally improved hair but not same magnitude as anything else, just marginal

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Amla oil
        >been shown to topically reduce DHT
        >Re-keritinizes hair
        >cheap as shit indian ingredient thousands of years old

        >snake oil

        Lmao

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Got any sources for that? Not even the anon you're replying to, genuinely curious.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Just google my claims and you'll find em

            In my anecdotal experience it made my hairline slightly darker and my hair slightly thicker with some new whispy peachfuzz on applied areas. Only been using it on and off for a month so far. No real hairline improvement yet other than the hair is more cooperative when combing. It DID however definitely help me fill in and thicken my weak newbie mustache. Plenty of hairs that were whispy white are now solid blonde and plenty that were blonde are now thick and brown with an overall noticable increase in density, same deal with eyebrows(which were fine to begin with).

            It also works well with a beard oil for my goatee. Keeps it nice.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Which brand?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Amla oil
            >been shown to topically reduce DHT
            >Re-keritinizes hair
            >cheap as shit indian ingredient thousands of years old

            >snake oil

            Lmao

            or you could just take the drugs that work and have cheap generics available

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, take chud drugs to fix your problems. What are you afraid of, becoming stunning and brave? Lmao.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >chuds take that same drug in higher doses to transition right?
    wrong

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Well, I'm not sure if it's true for finasteride but dutasteride is used for MTF trannies. That doesn't mean it's its only use or that taking dut makes you a chud like OP implies.

      https://i.imgur.com/0eJfCgK.jpg

      I doubt that, just because SCIENCE hasn't figured it all out doesn't mean it's not important
      It costs resources to make hormones, would the body keep making something useless? Hmmm

      Cancer. A single word completely refutes your "body keep making something useless" claim. Way to out yourself as a retard btw.

      https://i.imgur.com/vYdilOb.jpg

      I'm not a baldlet, but I can definitely see the tradeoff. You either sacrifice 5% of your total testosterone to keep your hair, and all the negative results of hormone changes, or you deal with the stress, anxiety and social changes of going bald.

      It's a cope, but it's a reasoned cope I guess.

      Wrong. Please stop commenting on things you don't understand, actually that goes for everything, and in general.

      https://i.imgur.com/RCADuQO.jpg

      hey idiots! women like a maturing hairline
      also women like your hair buzzed
      stop being feminine and dick down some bitches!

      Women consider 4/5 guys bellow a 5/10, hair-lets and bonelets included.

      It’s ironic because Meeks is balding too, does not have a strong jaw, and married a fat albeit rich garden gnome. Dude does look good from the front in pictures though

      Meeks has a big, sexually dimorphic skull. That is more than enough to make up for a recessed jaw. And for his race, hispanic, a recessed jaw isn't uncommon.

      To any Anon who is susceptible to DHT and is balding because of it, see through the bullshit that gets promoted. You need a 5-alpha-reductase inhibitor and you need to suppress DHT if you want to stabilise your hair-loss. You want to keep what you have, so be diligent and act rationally.
      >T. AGA sufferer and finasteride user for six years

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        look at this
        this is what inceldom does to a mother fucker

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Go fuck yourself.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            https://voca.ro/18qe77eI2iN5

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Brainlet detected

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Well, I'm not sure if it's true for finasteride but dutasteride is used for MTF trannies. That doesn't mean it's its only use or that taking dut makes you a chud like OP implies
        No. Dut increases T even more. Everyone claiming finasteride/dutasteride are chud drugs are absolute brainlets who have 0 understanding of endocrinology and have read 0 studies on drug outcomes in males. What matters for males is the T:E ratio. DHT is useless and can actually be feminizing in certain tissues, like the brain. Fin and dut,especially dut, increase T without affecting the aromatase enzyme. This means the rate conversion of T to E does not change. E only goes up if you were low T to begin with and the amount of T available was the rate limiting factor and not the amount of aromatase present.

        Dutasteride and Finasteride are not feminizing drugs. Estradiol is only feminizing in men when T is absent, otherwise it has a masculinizing effect. Don't believe me? Go take letrozole and nuke E2 to almost 0. See how your dick works.

        Also no chud regimen has ever consisted of fin/dut alone. They have to take ant-androgens that either block receptors or shut down testicular production of testosterone.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Meeks
        >his race, hispanic
        I thought he was of african descent

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I use a cream rich in nitrogen made from chicken shit

    Works very well

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This
    Finasteride targets the "male" in "male pattern baldness"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, Testosterone is the primary male hormone. DHT acts as a primer in the womb for androgenic traits which are manifested during puberty when Testosterone surges. During puberty, the ratio of T:DHT is highest. This means DHT is essentialy not active during this time

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        DHT is literally what develops secondary sexual characteristics. DHT literally grows your dick.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          not when you are a 20/30-something with a NW2 though

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Lol, there are people on penis enlargement forums that use finasteride to grow their dick with success. If anything T is what grows dick and DHT seems to put the brakes on growth

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            those are trannies anon

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >This means DHT is essentialy not active during this time
        DHT is always active. Testosterone is largely a prohormone for estrogen and DHT. The body wants estrogen and DHT. Testosterone is simply an intermediary step.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    DHT is poison that only matters during puberty, nuking it is a good thing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I doubt that, just because SCIENCE hasn't figured it all out doesn't mean it's not important
      It costs resources to make hormones, would the body keep making something useless? Hmmm

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >It costs resources to make hormones
        Oh no it took 1/10th of a microcalorie to convert testosterone to DHT how inefficient
        >would the body keep making something useless? Hmmm
        What would be the evolutionary pressure for the body to stop producing DHT at age 20? You don't get too hairy, or bald, or prostate cancer until you're too old to breed usually. DHT production turns on to cause development of secondary sex characteristics and genital growth, and when you're fully developed it stays on, because nothing had no reason to tell it to turn off.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >What would be the evolutionary pressure for the body to stop producing DHT at age 20?
          You save yourself 1/10th of a microcalorie

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You waste more "resources" fidgeting your leg for 10 minutes than a years' worth of converting testosterone to DHT

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Neither of you understand evolution.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              First guy is almost entirely correct. Evolution is simply selecting for the traits that produce the most reproducing offspring proportional to the overall population, not for traits that are useful by human standards or any form of intentional direction

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yes potentially. Your assuming the purpose of increasing 5 alpha reductase is to make more DHT. 5AR also metabolizes cortisol in peripheral tissues. Increasing 5ar to clear excess glucocorticoids to perserve metabolic phenotype could inadvertently lead to more useless DHT. Losing weight reduces 5AR and 11 beta hsd1 in adipose tissue. Do some research on DHT, 5AR, and cancer and aging. Its not good

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          it makes cortisol?? that means limp dick, zits and more hair just like the worst parts of puberty lol

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It? You mean finasteride? No it doesnt make anything. It inhibits an enzyme

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >It costs resources to make hormones, would the body keep making something useless? Hmmm
        yes, your body does all sorts of redundant/inefficient shit, has vestigial organs, and so on. evolution doesn't deal in perfection, it deals in "good enough to survive".

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >It costs resources to make hormones, would the body keep making something useless? Hmmm
        Man you are clueless. There are redundancies and imperfections in any animal. It’s nature, not a machine. “Good enough” is nature’s motto.
        Speaking generally here though, not about DHT

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >It costs resources to make hormones, would the body keep making something useless? Hmmm
        Because humans, throughout our evolutionary period, would reproduce by the age of 20.

        Anything that happened to the body after doesn't really matter, those genes never got darwined/discarded.

        Yeah, it makes perfect sense for the body to keep making something that is useless - harmful, even.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Your balls make sperm even though you'll never breed you dumb cunt

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >appendix
        >cancer
        >body hair
        >females

        Nature makes tons of useless shit you daft cunt

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not a baldlet, but I can definitely see the tradeoff. You either sacrifice 5% of your total testosterone to keep your hair, and all the negative results of hormone changes, or you deal with the stress, anxiety and social changes of going bald.

    It's a cope, but it's a reasoned cope I guess.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Total T goes up on finasteride because less T is being converted to DHT. I wish people stopped making shit up to fit their own headcannon

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Theres also more T being produced by the testes due to the absence of DHT. DHT, just like estradiol, suppresses gondotropins

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yes but then some of that T gets converted to estrogen. and fuck knows what other shit it's doing to your body

        also finasteride has side effects such as:
        low libido
        erectile dysfunction
        anxiety
        depression
        suicidal thoughts

        all of which are also symptoms of low T.

        I've tried finasteride 3 times and it just gives me side effects with no improvement to hair. I don't trust that garden gnome shit anymore.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >low libido
          <1% chance
          >erectile dysfunction
          <0.1% chance
          >anxiety
          <0.001% chance
          >depression
          <0.001% chance
          >suicidal thoughts
          <0.001% chance

          Post-Fin syndrome is a scam no recognized by any doctor. Any sides 100% go away with reduce dosage so stay bald faggit

          HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH I'M SMARTER THAN YOU AND I GET TO KEEP MY HAIR HAHAHAHAHHA

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            My libido has gone up on fin and I just feel less stressed about hair. Maybe get your other hormone levels checked, my T levels went from 750 to 800 on fin and nothing else changed lol

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            just a reminder merck has marketing agencies push their product and try to suppress or attack anyone who reports side effects

            the side effects are severely underreported and people who voice their experiences are immediately invalidated by pharma shills and Fin cultists

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              This.
              It's all advertising plus useful idiots

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                just a reminder merck has marketing agencies push their product and try to suppress or attack anyone who reports side effects

                the side effects are severely underreported and people who voice their experiences are immediately invalidated by pharma shills and Fin cultists

                obvious samefag

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >not denying it
                We're different anons

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              yeah i'm sure their <$1 generic pill that is made by a dozen other manufacturers is really keeping them afloat

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              merck doesn't even advertise propecia anymore because it's off patent you retard

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Has anybody actually payed for non generic fin in the past decade?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          My libido has gone up on fin and I just feel less stressed about hair. Maybe get your other hormone levels checked, my T levels went from 750 to 800 on fin and nothing else changed lol

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >my T levels went from 750 to 800 on fin
            Testosterone can go from 750 to 800 in 1 hour for no reason.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            on long term fin , your libido will be fucked . T maybe too .

            [...]
            Why does nobody mention the brain fog aka lower IQ? I don't care if my dick doesn't work because I don't use it anyway, but fuck if I'm giving up the biggest competitive edge I have in life for some hair.

            Most people here are retarded anyway so it's no factor.

            well the brain fog is sort of assumed when i said "depression" "anxiety". but yea that too. if i write a full list of finasteride side effects, it will be too long

            >low libido
            <1% chance
            >erectile dysfunction
            <0.1% chance
            >anxiety
            <0.001% chance
            >depression
            <0.001% chance
            >suicidal thoughts
            <0.001% chance

            Post-Fin syndrome is a scam no recognized by any doctor. Any sides 100% go away with reduce dosage so stay bald faggit

            HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH I'M SMARTER THAN YOU AND I GET TO KEEP MY HAIR HAHAHAHAHHA

            ok take your REDDIT% chances and die with your fancy gay girly hair retard moron

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >low libido
          <1% chance
          >erectile dysfunction
          <0.1% chance
          >anxiety
          <0.001% chance
          >depression
          <0.001% chance
          >suicidal thoughts
          <0.001% chance

          Post-Fin syndrome is a scam no recognized by any doctor. Any sides 100% go away with reduce dosage so stay bald faggit

          HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH I'M SMARTER THAN YOU AND I GET TO KEEP MY HAIR HAHAHAHAHHA

          Why does nobody mention the brain fog aka lower IQ? I don't care if my dick doesn't work because I don't use it anyway, but fuck if I'm giving up the biggest competitive edge I have in life for some hair.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Most people here are retarded anyway so it's no factor.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I had brainfog on fin. 0 on dut. Dut is even being hypothesized to teaty neuroinflammatory diseases like parkinsons and alzheimer's. Google dutasteride neuroinflammation. All the redditers talking about "muh neurosteroids" is top kek

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It’s only temporary. Your body re-adjust the ratio.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yeah that's why so many people get permanent ed from it. lol it can irreversibly damage androgen receptors. even trt won't work for the thousands of men castrated by fin. 1400 lawsuits against merck are not a coincidence.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >it can irreversibly damage androgen receptors
          Are you retarded? Fin doesn't target androgen receptors at all, it only nukes 5 alpha reductase in order to cut back on your body's T -> DHT conversion.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        this only last for a few weeks
        this is a cope
        enjoy killing your dick and relying on drugs that permanently damage your neurosteroids

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It’s not gonna matter anyway because baldcels don’t get laid.

          So even if fin made you impotent it’s not like it’s gonna make a difference for you

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          My gf is still killing my dick after years on fin, is that what you meant?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the stress, anxiety and social changes of going bald.
      Or you could just not give a fuck because of good skull shape and good looking face.
      Sure, I looked better with hair, but I still facemogg most people.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    okay don't take it and go bald

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      enjoy counting the hairs on your shower wall, cueball freak

      https://i.imgur.com/o7BnU4V.gif

      Lmao hairlets getting chudet out

      >Don't take TRT it's a chud drug!

      Still though anyone who's going on fin should just get on topical fin instead.

      Thankfully I’m not balding at all, literally same hairline since I was a child. Just notice how many people are bald and it makes me smile knowing I’m not such a pathetic genetic failure that my little weenie hair folicals die form a little hormone.

      Bald men are weak men, keep taking your chud drug everyday for the rest of your life, your body will get accumulated to the drug and you balding is inevitable. You don’t take your little cope pill every morning all that fake hair is gonna fall out.

      Just accept your malding

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >same hairline since I was a child

        i'd stop saying that line if you're trying to convince people that you aren't balding, given all baldies say it and you've just exposed yourself as balding by saying it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The absolute cope. You balding gays really think everyone’s like you. Just take my chud drug man

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            im not balding at all because i take fin. no side-effects btw : )

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You are balding gay as soon as your body adjusts to the drug and you stop the medication all of that hair will go.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The drug doesn't lose effectiveness, there are guys that have been on it for decades with no hair loss since starting

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No tans people take finasteride alone. They have to take androgen receptor blockers otherwise estradiol doesnt have a feminizing effect. Finasteride actually increases testosterone

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It increases test but also estrogen since your body tries to balance. Its not worth fucking with your hormones like that just make your own topical in a low dose.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Damn that garden gnome has way too much fun

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The only people I've ever heard use that hairline line are pre baldies in denial about signs they've recently noticed. Not looking so good friend, gonna be a rough fall for you especially with all that cognitive dissonance

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Heh he is balding just like me !!

          Keep coping you baldcel gay women hate you

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        don't worry you've provoked the norwood reaper now, so your time will come

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If your 30+ your density is probably not the same. All men will bald given enough dht exposure over time just like all men will get prostate cancer if they arent killed by something else first. Finasteride has shown go retain effectiveness for hair over a 10 year study

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        post body

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because people know they can make money off it, plain and simple

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Its a generic drug, only ones who make money are online doc selling scripts. Drug itself is dirt cheap

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    enjoy counting the hairs on your shower wall, cueball freak

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    theres a global agenda being pushed to feminize men
    countless of lives ruined by this drug and now people dont even question it
    its crazy but thats just reality now

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You know what else can feminizes men? DHT. It can convert to an estrogen receptor beta agonist called 3 beta adiol. DHT also supresses T production through gondotropin supression

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Total T goes up on finasteride because less T is being converted to DHT. I wish people stopped making shit up to fit their own headcannon

        how the fuck do i get an rx for this

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you can use the GoodRx app and obtain a prescription for fin within the hour, through a $40 virtual consultation. Its so fucking easy. And then they give you a coupon for the script that drops the price from like $137 to $13. GoodRx is insanely goated

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Millions take it and are fine. Mentally unstable hypochondriacs get PFS because they read about it online forums even though no studies show that PFS exists aside from the ones paid for by the PFS foundation

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Don't take TRT it's a chud drug!

    Still though anyone who's going on fin should just get on topical fin instead.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lmao hairlets getting chudet out

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't you save money for a hair transplant?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      u still have to take finasteride/dutasteride to prevent future hairloss + the transplanted hair can still fall out. the only option to "having hair" without drugs or surgery for balding men are hair systems.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Trannies also eat food and use toilets, we should stop doing those things because theyre for trannies

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    hey idiots! women like a maturing hairline
    also women like your hair buzzed
    stop being feminine and dick down some bitches!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      let's see what the femcels think:
      https://crystal dot cafe/b/res/140970.html

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        women incels are man-hating creatures who look for known insecurities of men (cock, height, hair) to attack them as a whole
        it's a projection of their own insecurities and it's the same exact thing as a guy incel shitting on women for all being whores and roasties
        but do you follow guy incel rhetoric? I hope not

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I think a lot of these feelings we see from either side are exagerrated because of the medium we use. Most people are reasonable if you can engage in good faith. That being said, both men and women harp on the hairline so it is something we can assume we sexually select by. If it's only a means to a shit test, it's still a barrier to mating. Not that it's as important as bodily symmetry, height, jawline and such, but you can't do much to change those aside from costly surgery. I take 0.5mg of fin and topical minox every other day to maintain my hairline so I don't need to freak out about it ten years down the line. My brother lost almost all his hair at 25 and even though he's ripped he looks like shit if he doesn't shave often enough. For me, just doing the most basic advice from IST, IST, 4chan, IST and IST have markedly raised my status in almost every arena. I think IST saved my life tbh

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            women prefer masculine
            buzzed hair = masculine
            I proudly buzz my hair with a great hairline and my dad (75) still tries to maintain his hair; it's depressing
            hair is the real test of a man

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It’s ironic because Meeks is balding too, does not have a strong jaw, and married a fat albeit rich garden gnome. Dude does look good from the front in pictures though

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                masculine
                that's it
                every point you put into looking more masculine is how you sexually attract women
                women work tirelessly to seem feminine, even if they wish they were born a guy; so should men

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >women prefer masculine
              Only women who are not on the pill

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          why do you have this trash retards saved? women never contributed anything to society other than shitting out children and pissing shitting and ripping themselves in the process.

          women are trash.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >teenage girls lift weights twice a week and read IST tier books
          What an absolute load of horse shit lmao

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            have you left the house in the last 5 years old fatty?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        no one cares what crystalcafe roasties think zoomer

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Anyone attractive without hair would be more attractive with it. Just a fact.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you're not a woman
        women like masculine guys
        do you not aim for sexual attraction?
        realize this, think about this, understand this
        women and men are very different
        if my pic had a cock he'd be fucked for life
        but she has a pussy so she's good to go
        understand? we are different
        hair is no different
        shave it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Meaningless ramble. A full head of hair is a symbol of vitality.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            how you express yourself and what you say is a sign of vitality
            you are old, bitter, and encrusted
            now look in the mirror
            smile
            and shave your head.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              stop schizocoping please
              will not respond further

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          pls give name. Im sure i've jerked off to her but i've forgotten the name.For the love of god pls someone help a coomer out

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >dick down
      this is a word exclusively used by porn addicted incels

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you guys realise that water in a higher doses will kill you right?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they probably take it to stop mpb to not look like trannies.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Remember these threads that are complaining about them are pruned yet the advertisement threads are shilled and jannies (trannies) don't do shit.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ^shut the fuck up gay

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    More men are comfortable about talking about it now. There isn't as much pressure to just give in to hair loss when these drugs are available.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Should I buzz my hair if I have a receding hairline

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just go to Turkey and get hair transplant done.
    No need for finasteride.
    Keep your hair, keep your masculinity, keep your dick
    Perfect

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not how it works brother, your HT doctor will say the same.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No, it depends on your hair loss. Not everybody goes full bald.
        My friend lost just his temples, got transplants and after 10 years he looks the same. No meds.
        But I agree, this is like playing russian roulette

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          He says no meds but he's on meds

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Body hair, baldness, prostate enlargement = masculinity? Yeah ok. What is andropause?

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that this is the guy on IST telling you to just shave it bro

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      he cute

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >chuds take that same drug in higher doses to transition
    Yeah, I wonder what's the difference between just 1mg of Dutasteride and a shiton of anti-androgens and oral, parental and transdermal estrogen doses.
    combined with

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There is cyanide in almonds. Think about that for a while.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dude, why are you eating? is the same thing that makes people fat

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The drug doesn't lose effectiveness, there are guys that have been on it for decades with no hair loss since starting

      Eating food is so comparable to taking a drug which changes your hormones. What’s the point of having hair so women find you attractive if you can’t literally fuck them ? I can’t believe guys take this fucking shit

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    completely wrong... you are thinking of spironolactone which is an androgen blocker. Fin is an inhibitor one subtype of 5-ar, which is an enzyme responsible for converting test to DHT. Fin only partially inhibits that conversion though. I get a sense tho that you're not making your post in good faith and it's just bad bait

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Any nickers?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yea do you reckon nick takes medical therapy for his hair loss? Feel like he would be really insecure about going bald considering his a Norwood 3.5 at 24 years old

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That's a lie. Trannies take estradiol and other estrogen derivatives to suppress natural T production, finasteride increases T levels by preventing conversion to DHT.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Trannies do take fin but they take 5-10mg of it

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Let me break it down for you fucking retards. Finasteride keeps testosterone from converting to DHT. Normal DHT levels in men are 14 to 77 ng/dL. People who bald typically have very high DHT levels. Finasteride does not eliminate all testosterone from being converted to DHT and can help get your DHT into those ranges.

    OP is trolling and every single retard who is too stupid to Google needs to cull themselves from the gene pool. Seriously, if you read this OP and thought "herp derp I'm not gonna take Finasteride derp herp" literally go buy a gun this weekend and have a nice day in the head

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Op here I’m not trolling. I refuse to believe you guys actually take a hormone altering medication. The fact that trannies take it in higher dosages and it can make you impotent for ever. I would rather the bald

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I would rather the bald
        you say that now but just wait

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >not a single suggestion of progesterone ITT
    >not even a single suggestion of pregnenolone
    this entire board is ngmi

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >just take random hormones because a youtuber told you to bro

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        forum schizos, actually
        >b-b-but test causes male pattern baldness
        tell me what age testosterone starts dropping off then tell me when male pattern baldness starts setting in, then realize how retarded that argument is
        >b-b-but DHT
        necessary for proper moderation of hair growth, high DHT being associated in men with MPB just means the DHT isn't being moderated by other hormones; it isn't that they have too much DHT, it's that they don't have enough cortisol et al
        sneed and keep eating your zogslop

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          but people with 5-ar mutations or who were castrated have full heads of hair

          also fina/duta work so what are you even trying to say

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            DHT peaks in the age range you expect a full head of hair, and drops of over time as hair loss increases. if DHT caused hair loss, you'd expect 25 year olds to be bald and 80 year olds to have mullets. of course application of hormone antagonists will have all sorts of effects in hormone regulation.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              But fina and duta works and people who no dht during most/all of their lives don't go bald

              Whatever alternative theory you have needs to account for this

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                no, your theory needs to account for the fact that levels of DHT in the scalp are high in men with and without MPB. simply stating that high DHT = hair loss is tantamount to saying that high creatinine = failing liver. not only are the not causal, they aren't even directly related!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                men differ genetically in their sensitivity to DHT in their scalp hair

                done

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                the issue is that no such a gene has ever been found
                the male pattern hair growth gene is identhical for everyone

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Brainlet. Look at the ratios. When men have hair, teens early 20s, T:DHT ratio is at its highest. Hight T means less DHT binding due to T blocking more androgen receptors. Once andropause starts and T starts to decline, DHT becomes more active and the negstive effects manifest more

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                yeah crazy it's almost like balding is a symptom of too little T and that the proper treatment is increasing it via precursors such as progesterone

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Good luck with that if you have high 5ar enzymes, progesterone is a substrate for that too. Also, look at the chemical structure of finasteride and progesterone, they are analogous

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >high 5ar hormones
                and pray tell how that happens
                >muh genetics
                bullshit, don't give me the same excuse fatties do

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    haha I just don't care haha, I'm not going to take the chud pills haha sorry! Caring about your hair is a bit too womanly of a trait for me

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    just eat the rogaine

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >have bad dandruff
    >bad acne
    >dry skin in general
    >start losing hair age 22
    my skin hates me

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      dht causes acne

      try fin

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        doesn't that lower overall T?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          no it raises T

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dont use fin, dont use minox

    Go bald

    I want everyone depressed and stressed with life

    I want a new world war

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wait is that Nick Fuentes??? The America First host on cozy.tv/nick ??? Interesting of OP to promote him on fit.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    People saying to take finasteride, please post body. From the anecdotes of lower mood, weaker erections, and smaller/watery ejaculations it does seem like it is messing with other hormone balances and it’s not just a simple decrease DHT/increase free T. The lower mental energy is most concerning for me, who is considering cycling test e just for the focus gains.
    I haven’t seen enough anecdotes of fin asteroids effect on before/after body composition and strength.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you're going to take hormones that will make you bald and give you heart and liver disease but you won't take a widely prescribed drug with marginal side effects (if any)

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't Nick half mexican? I thought mexicans were immune to balding

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      His father is half mexican, so Nick is probably like 25% and the photo is shooped look at his hand shadow

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Photo isn’t shopped at all. It’s literally a direct screenshot from stream. His hairline is fucked and he tries to conceal with his zoomer mutt haircut where he leaves it long at the front so he can comb over his recession.

        If you look at photos of him since 2017 his hairline was even receding back then. If anything he would 100% be taking fin

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >speculating
          The photo is literally shopped. Look at the photos of him now and in 2018, it's the same.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I thought mexicans were immune to balding
      Where'd you hear this shit? Have you ever even been to México?

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you may not realize this now, but balding is literally the male version of hitting the wall. At one point I had to shave my full head of curls something and I went from an 8/10 to a 4/10. Female attention vanished. And this is from a guy who literally used to model when he was younger, so God help the average folk who are 6/10s even with their hair. You will realize this when you shave your head. If you don't have hair, and don't have money, do not expect to get your dick wet more than once a year from a pity fuck. Advice from an older man. Keep it as long as you can, it's the difference between being that guy who is married and having his wife cheat on him

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If I take fin to keep my hair but get ED can’t I just take viagra. I only get like 2 fucks a year if I’m lucky and it’s always one night stands.

      So if I just pop a blue pill when I need to fuck I’ll be alright right? Or is the ED that bad viagra can’t help you

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Fin is only reported to have those sides in about 3% of men, and it's not controlled for age. You seem to believe it's a given.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I already have Erectile issues that I believe are psychological from masturbating everyday since 2012. It takes me ages to get hard with a chick and 3 years ago with my gf I had no problems.

          I already know that if I take fin I will get ED because I will placebo myself into getting. So should I just viagra Max and cope with it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        fin doesn't cause ED, and if you're paranoid just use RU58841 instead, It's topical fin

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        moron fin causes ED less than the placebo trials in half the studies, people get ED because they think they will, brcause theyre depressed about losing hair and their self image, or theyre already old fat fucks at the age of balding who are also at the age of getting ED. If you get ED go to a therapist or swith to topical if youre really that vulnerable to the power of suggestion

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          90% of ED is dudes wanking off way to much and watching porn everyday which desensitises you to having sex with a real women.

          If you have ED don’t watch porn or jerk off for 2 months

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldnt say thats a bad hairline. It certainly is receding, but I unironically find widows peaks to be peak masculine as long as they dont get out of hand
    Pic related is Andy Garcia in the Oceans Eleven movie

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Widows peaks arent recession, horeshoe hairlines are. I've had a widows peak since birth, so do plenty of guys and girls, it's due to genetic placement of the hair growth planes not recession although a receding hairline looks quite similar.

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >zoomers are starting balding

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I’m a zoomer and I know 2 guys who are completely bald. Born 2001

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This happens because sometimes it skips generations. I am 26 and my best friend balded completely at 16.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >2001

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >take this magic pill that will fix your insecurity
    >has side affects
    >cope / denial begins
    >b-but it's only 5% of my total test!!!
    >i-it reduces dht! Therefore good!!!
    Fintrannies absolutely seething. Bigphara has completely brainwashed you by playing on your insecurity "looksism".
    Enjoy being a trannie i guess.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sorry you didnt take fin earlier and you lost all your hair and are now bitter about it and want to crabs in a bucket everyone around you because they still have hope

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >passive-aggressive
        >false sense of superiority
        >projecting emotional states
        look what fin did to you bro, lmao you're basically a woman

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Zoomies are a curse on this website.
          The age range needs to be moved to 30+.
          Braindead posts everywhere.

          post hair right now

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >damage control
            Not showing any PI

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Zoomies are a curse on this website.
        The age range needs to be moved to 30+.
        Braindead posts everywhere.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, take chud drugs to fix your problems. What are you afraid of, becoming stunning and brave? Lmao.

      https://i.imgur.com/ko5EJmq.jpg

      >yea I take fin bro, how did you know?

      all me btw

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >yea I take fin bro, how did you know?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i would fuck that so hard bros. whatever call me a fag i dont care my dick unironically got hard seeing this pic, dont care

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've been on fin for maybe a month and a half to two months at most with 1mg every monday. What I've noticed
    >got fin dick week 3
    >realized I had norwood 3 vortex due to the shedding in the beginning of fin
    >still shedding now but I have a shit ton of long thick hair to my shoulders anyway

    Soooo I started taking 1g of tongkat ali and that completely fixed my fin dick and now honestly my dick feels thicker and longer due to more blood into that bitch. I also have noticed my hairline which is the first thing I noticed going due to me loving my bangs and they started getting wispy was baby hairs starting to sprout out at where my original hairline was. The baby hairs vary in lengths but are starting to become more pronounced to the point my temples seem fuller. I'm not saying I'm recovered but it does look promising.Also this is without using minox.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >take more drugs to fix the other drugs problem
      Genuis!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Tongkat is extremely based, I fell for the SSRI meme and it broke my dick for years. Tried tongkat on a whim and everything just... works. I stopped taking it and once in a while I’ll have trouble getting it up if I’ve been drinking or something (but I’m also 10 years older than I was when I started SSRIs, and some things can’t be helped)

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ps finasteride can be mixed into a solution and applied topically

    it's just as effective but doesn't lower system DHT near as much, only locally in the scalp

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Buy finastride!
      The magic pilk that will fix all of your delusions.
      I don't doubt your hair is back, but i'm looking forward until 2 years later when you all report back with gyno and erection problems.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you didn't read what I said

        when applied topically, it only lowers DHT in the scalp. locally. not systemic.

        does not get to the liver, doesn't mess with your overall hormones. only in the scalp.

        additionally, it's effective in 0.1mg - 0.2mg. you don't need to use the 1mg, or god forbid 5mg, that is normally prescribed.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe.
          I'm not buying it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ok

            here is a study on it from 2021

            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6609098/#!po=84.2857

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              that's not how fin works, fin has to go systemic because it targets the 5-ar in the prostate

              whoops here is the better study:

              https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34634163/

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                chart on efficacy of topical vs. systemic (taking a pill)

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                We're not arguing the efficiency, we're trying to point out that fin turns you into a chud.
                Nothing in that article or anything you posted disproves this

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                see

                https://i.imgur.com/YBwRPlb.jpg

                [...]
                [...]

                full study: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jdv.17738

                efficacy is almost identical while overall systemic DHT reduction is half

                keep in mind they are using a larger dose in the study than is necessary, too

                just use a 0.1 - 0.2mg dose and sides are basically nonexistent

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Been using 0.35mg topically daily for a couple of months and I got no sides aside from shedding for like 3 weeks or so. My hair looks healthier now and I've got some new hairs growing on my temples. Overall breddy gud, lads with more aggressive balding than me might not be able to maintain their hair at this dose though.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                that's not how fin works, fin has to go systemic because it targets the 5-ar in the prostate

                Maybe.
                I'm not buying it

                full study: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jdv.17738

                efficacy is almost identical while overall systemic DHT reduction is half

                keep in mind they are using a larger dose in the study than is necessary, too

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          that's not how fin works, fin has to go systemic because it targets the 5-ar in the prostate

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            see

            ok

            here is a study on it from 2021

            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6609098/#!po=84.2857

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.center4research.org/taking-propecia-or-proscar-to-prevent-hair-loss-is-associated-with-depression-anxiety-and-sexual-problems/

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that the bald bros discord has people raid every hair thread to talk shit about finasteride. Any time you hear the term "chud pills" its them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why do they get so triggered about fin. Some of the horror stories I’ve herd about fin is holohoux tier. One guy claimed his penis Shrunk 4 inches

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They see people with hair the same way fat people on twitter see skinny people. Just a very vindictive group of people.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I remember this guy I was friends with in high school who was obsessed over peoples hairlines and shit. Would always be like

          >your going bald bro

          I never really gave a fuck about other peoples hair but I saw him recently and he must have been hiding his hairline with a comb over fringe because his hairlines fucked now. Goes to show people who bald get really vindictive and angry. Kinda like incels who get angry at guys who get laid.

          They are just jealous

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't have discord.
      Fintrannies can't cope with the fact that they fucked up

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    eunuchs never go bald either. is having balls just a cope? who here ready to the eunuchpill?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It makes you taller too, half of fit wishing they were desexed now

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        based. having balls is just a baldcel manlet cope. not like they'll ever use them anyways. most complaints of ed and depression after ball removal is just placebo anyways. plus it's been proven that castrated males live longer too!

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Finsisters did we get too cocky???
    How will we convince IST to take fin???

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the NW2 -> NW3 transition usually wakes people up but sometimes people still cope with muh mature hairline at that stage and wait till they have a bald spot to do anything.

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    HOW IS HE ALREADY BALD HES LIKE 22 LMAO

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      hes a test tube baby for real

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In the balkans we just put raw eggs in hair and a few drops of olive oil. I did for a month and I have since seen volume increase and baby hairs along the entire hairline.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's a vitamins thing, sort of like using the ket shampoo. Doesn't stop the miniaturization though.

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >diffuse thinning
    >have to try to get my topical minox/finox down to scalp level
    >most just winds up on my fingers and in my hair after dropping it where I've parted

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    30 year old. The thin has set in I experimented with min and topical liposomal dutasteride for a year but felt like I was poluting my body and planet so I quit. Then I found a lot of anecdotal evidence of massages working. I am doing massage + microneedling now and I have new double size diameter hairs everywhere I was thinning and balding. Even on my hairline in the front. I will now look into compressoon exersiz cause skull expansion theory seems to hold value I inspected many balding and non balding scalps.

    It's very obvious for me massage and microneedling works cause my new hair I'm seeing is double diameter than any existing hair even hair on the side where I'm not balding its also a lot darker. I think microneedling stimulates dormant hair follicles and massage keeps them fed well (bloodflow / nutrient increase )

    Fin and min trannies don't believe massage works but they are bottom of the barrel hair genetics. I'm not sure it will work if you experience agressive balding.

    In a well oxigenized scalp environment T converts into estrogen instead of DHT. DHT is an anti inflammatory agent. Your scalp is inflamed cause of chronic tension and scalp expansion.

    Oh you need to use duckduckgo for hair loss research. Google pushes content that makes chemical drug sales happen, same for YouTube search. You won't find much using Google only pill and drug push articles

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      See you in 3 years when you've lost another norwood

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Projecting

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The only thing that's going to be projecting is your bald head in a few years when it's blank enough to watch movies off of

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Hair loss fags have been shitting up several boards for years. It is not a chud conspiracy.

  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Who cares about hair, i'm a great person and girls love me for my personality and because i'm so cool.

  57. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Could Fin pills help with the balding corners like in Nicks photo op posted?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe a little bit, but mainly it would prevent it from getting worse.

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