Why is finasteride promoted now?

You guys realise troonys take that same drug in higher doses to transition right?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Cardio
    Amla oil
    Microneedling

    Done

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >meme
      >snake oil
      >another meme
      >done

      K.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Microneedling actually does work, although without fin/dut its basically filling a leaky bucket. Cardio = less stress and better bloodflow so marginally improved hair but not same magnitude as anything else, just marginal

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Amla oil
        >been shown to topically reduce DHT
        >Re-keritinizes hair
        >cheap as shit indian ingredient thousands of years old

        >snake oil

        Lmao

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Got any sources for that? Not even the anon you're replying to, genuinely curious.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Just google my claims and you'll find em

            In my anecdotal experience it made my hairline slightly darker and my hair slightly thicker with some new whispy peachfuzz on applied areas. Only been using it on and off for a month so far. No real hairline improvement yet other than the hair is more cooperative when combing. It DID however definitely help me fill in and thicken my weak newbie mustache. Plenty of hairs that were whispy white are now solid blonde and plenty that were blonde are now thick and brown with an overall noticable increase in density, same deal with eyebrows(which were fine to begin with).

            It also works well with a beard oil for my goatee. Keeps it nice.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Which brand?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Amla oil
            >been shown to topically reduce DHT
            >Re-keritinizes hair
            >cheap as shit indian ingredient thousands of years old

            >snake oil

            Lmao

            or you could just take the drugs that work and have cheap generics available

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, take troony drugs to fix your problems. What are you afraid of, becoming stunning and brave? Lmao.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >troonys take that same drug in higher doses to transition right?
    wrong

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Well, I'm not sure if it's true for finasteride but dutasteride is used for MTF trannies. That doesn't mean it's its only use or that taking dut makes you a troony like OP implies.

      https://i.imgur.com/0eJfCgK.jpg

      I doubt that, just because SCIENCE hasn't figured it all out doesn't mean it's not important
      It costs resources to make hormones, would the body keep making something useless? Hmmm

      Cancer. A single word completely refutes your "body keep making something useless" claim. Way to out yourself as a moron btw.

      https://i.imgur.com/vYdilOb.jpg

      I'm not a baldlet, but I can definitely see the tradeoff. You either sacrifice 5% of your total testosterone to keep your hair, and all the negative results of hormone changes, or you deal with the stress, anxiety and social changes of going bald.

      It's a cope, but it's a reasoned cope I guess.

      Wrong. Please stop commenting on things you don't understand, actually that goes for everything, and in general.

      https://i.imgur.com/RCADuQO.jpg

      hey idiots! women like a maturing hairline
      also women like your hair buzzed
      stop being feminine and dick down some b***hes!

      Women consider 4/5 guys bellow a 5/10, hair-lets and bonelets included.

      It’s ironic because Meeks is balding too, does not have a strong jaw, and married a fat albeit rich israelite. Dude does look good from the front in pictures though

      Meeks has a big, sexually dimorphic skull. That is more than enough to make up for a recessed jaw. And for his race, hispanic, a recessed jaw isn't uncommon.

      To any Anon who is susceptible to DHT and is balding because of it, see through the bullshit that gets promoted. You need a 5-alpha-reductase inhibitor and you need to suppress DHT if you want to stabilise your hair-loss. You want to keep what you have, so be diligent and act rationally.
      >T. AGA sufferer and finasteride user for six years

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        look at this
        this is what inceldom does to a mother fricker

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Go frick yourself.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            https://voca.ro/18qe77eI2iN5

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Brainlet detected

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Well, I'm not sure if it's true for finasteride but dutasteride is used for MTF trannies. That doesn't mean it's its only use or that taking dut makes you a troony like OP implies
        No. Dut increases T even more. Everyone claiming finasteride/dutasteride are troony drugs are absolute brainlets who have 0 understanding of endocrinology and have read 0 studies on drug outcomes in males. What matters for males is the T:E ratio. DHT is useless and can actually be feminizing in certain tissues, like the brain. Fin and dut,especially dut, increase T without affecting the aromatase enzyme. This means the rate conversion of T to E does not change. E only goes up if you were low T to begin with and the amount of T available was the rate limiting factor and not the amount of aromatase present.

        Dutasteride and Finasteride are not feminizing drugs. Estradiol is only feminizing in men when T is absent, otherwise it has a masculinizing effect. Don't believe me? Go take letrozole and nuke E2 to almost 0. See how your dick works.

        Also no troony regimen has ever consisted of fin/dut alone. They have to take ant-androgens that either block receptors or shut down testicular production of testosterone.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Meeks
        >his race, hispanic
        I thought he was of african descent

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I use a cream rich in nitrogen made from chicken shit

    Works very well

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This
    Finasteride targets the "male" in "male pattern baldness"

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No, Testosterone is the primary male hormone. DHT acts as a primer in the womb for androgenic traits which are manifested during puberty when Testosterone surges. During puberty, the ratio of T:DHT is highest. This means DHT is essentialy not active during this time

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        DHT is literally what develops secondary sexual characteristics. DHT literally grows your dick.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          not when you are a 20/30-something with a NW2 though

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Lol, there are people on penis enlargement forums that use finasteride to grow their dick with success. If anything T is what grows dick and DHT seems to put the brakes on growth

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            those are trannies anon

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >This means DHT is essentialy not active during this time
        DHT is always active. Testosterone is largely a prohormone for estrogen and DHT. The body wants estrogen and DHT. Testosterone is simply an intermediary step.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    DHT is poison that only matters during puberty, nuking it is a good thing.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I doubt that, just because SCIENCE hasn't figured it all out doesn't mean it's not important
      It costs resources to make hormones, would the body keep making something useless? Hmmm

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >It costs resources to make hormones
        Oh no it took 1/10th of a microcalorie to convert testosterone to DHT how inefficient
        >would the body keep making something useless? Hmmm
        What would be the evolutionary pressure for the body to stop producing DHT at age 20? You don't get too hairy, or bald, or prostate cancer until you're too old to breed usually. DHT production turns on to cause development of secondary sex characteristics and genital growth, and when you're fully developed it stays on, because nothing had no reason to tell it to turn off.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >What would be the evolutionary pressure for the body to stop producing DHT at age 20?
          You save yourself 1/10th of a microcalorie

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You waste more "resources" fidgeting your leg for 10 minutes than a years' worth of converting testosterone to DHT

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Neither of you understand evolution.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              First guy is almost entirely correct. Evolution is simply selecting for the traits that produce the most reproducing offspring proportional to the overall population, not for traits that are useful by human standards or any form of intentional direction

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yes potentially. Your assuming the purpose of increasing 5 alpha reductase is to make more DHT. 5AR also metabolizes cortisol in peripheral tissues. Increasing 5ar to clear excess glucocorticoids to perserve metabolic phenotype could inadvertently lead to more useless DHT. Losing weight reduces 5AR and 11 beta hsd1 in adipose tissue. Do some research on DHT, 5AR, and cancer and aging. Its not good

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          it makes cortisol?? that means limp dick, zits and more hair just like the worst parts of puberty lol

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It? You mean finasteride? No it doesnt make anything. It inhibits an enzyme

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >It costs resources to make hormones, would the body keep making something useless? Hmmm
        yes, your body does all sorts of redundant/inefficient shit, has vestigial organs, and so on. evolution doesn't deal in perfection, it deals in "good enough to survive".

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >It costs resources to make hormones, would the body keep making something useless? Hmmm
        Man you are clueless. There are redundancies and imperfections in any animal. It’s nature, not a machine. “Good enough” is nature’s motto.
        Speaking generally here though, not about DHT

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >It costs resources to make hormones, would the body keep making something useless? Hmmm
        Because humans, throughout our evolutionary period, would reproduce by the age of 20.

        Anything that happened to the body after doesn't really matter, those genes never got darwined/discarded.

        Yeah, it makes perfect sense for the body to keep making something that is useless - harmful, even.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Your balls make sperm even though you'll never breed you dumb c**t

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >appendix
        >cancer
        >body hair
        >females

        Nature makes tons of useless shit you daft c**t

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not a baldlet, but I can definitely see the tradeoff. You either sacrifice 5% of your total testosterone to keep your hair, and all the negative results of hormone changes, or you deal with the stress, anxiety and social changes of going bald.

    It's a cope, but it's a reasoned cope I guess.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Total T goes up on finasteride because less T is being converted to DHT. I wish people stopped making shit up to fit their own headcannon

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Theres also more T being produced by the testes due to the absence of DHT. DHT, just like estradiol, suppresses gondotropins

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        yes but then some of that T gets converted to estrogen. and frick knows what other shit it's doing to your body

        also finasteride has side effects such as:
        low libido
        erectile dysfunction
        anxiety
        depression
        suicidal thoughts

        all of which are also symptoms of low T.

        I've tried finasteride 3 times and it just gives me side effects with no improvement to hair. I don't trust that israelite shit anymore.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >low libido
          <1% chance
          >erectile dysfunction
          <0.1% chance
          >anxiety
          <0.001% chance
          >depression
          <0.001% chance
          >suicidal thoughts
          <0.001% chance

          Post-Fin syndrome is a scam no recognized by any doctor. Any sides 100% go away with reduce dosage so stay bald gaygit

          HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH I'M SMARTER THAN YOU AND I GET TO KEEP MY HAIR HAHAHAHAHHA

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            My libido has gone up on fin and I just feel less stressed about hair. Maybe get your other hormone levels checked, my T levels went from 750 to 800 on fin and nothing else changed lol

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            just a reminder merck has marketing agencies push their product and try to suppress or attack anyone who reports side effects

            the side effects are severely underreported and people who voice their experiences are immediately invalidated by pharma shills and Fin cultists

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              This.
              It's all advertising plus useful idiots

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                just a reminder merck has marketing agencies push their product and try to suppress or attack anyone who reports side effects

                the side effects are severely underreported and people who voice their experiences are immediately invalidated by pharma shills and Fin cultists

                obvious samegay

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >not denying it
                We're different anons

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              yeah i'm sure their <$1 generic pill that is made by a dozen other manufacturers is really keeping them afloat

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              merck doesn't even advertise propecia anymore because it's off patent you moron

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Has anybody actually payed for non generic fin in the past decade?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          My libido has gone up on fin and I just feel less stressed about hair. Maybe get your other hormone levels checked, my T levels went from 750 to 800 on fin and nothing else changed lol

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >my T levels went from 750 to 800 on fin
            Testosterone can go from 750 to 800 in 1 hour for no reason.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            on long term fin , your libido will be fricked . T maybe too .

            [...]
            Why does nobody mention the brain fog aka lower IQ? I don't care if my dick doesn't work because I don't use it anyway, but frick if I'm giving up the biggest competitive edge I have in life for some hair.

            Most people here are moronic anyway so it's no factor.

            well the brain fog is sort of assumed when i said "depression" "anxiety". but yea that too. if i write a full list of finasteride side effects, it will be too long

            >low libido
            <1% chance
            >erectile dysfunction
            <0.1% chance
            >anxiety
            <0.001% chance
            >depression
            <0.001% chance
            >suicidal thoughts
            <0.001% chance

            Post-Fin syndrome is a scam no recognized by any doctor. Any sides 100% go away with reduce dosage so stay bald gaygit

            HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH I'M SMARTER THAN YOU AND I GET TO KEEP MY HAIR HAHAHAHAHHA

            ok take your REDDIT% chances and die with your fancy homosexual girly hair moron Black person

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >low libido
          <1% chance
          >erectile dysfunction
          <0.1% chance
          >anxiety
          <0.001% chance
          >depression
          <0.001% chance
          >suicidal thoughts
          <0.001% chance

          Post-Fin syndrome is a scam no recognized by any doctor. Any sides 100% go away with reduce dosage so stay bald gaygit

          HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH I'M SMARTER THAN YOU AND I GET TO KEEP MY HAIR HAHAHAHAHHA

          Why does nobody mention the brain fog aka lower IQ? I don't care if my dick doesn't work because I don't use it anyway, but frick if I'm giving up the biggest competitive edge I have in life for some hair.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Most people here are moronic anyway so it's no factor.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I had brainfog on fin. 0 on dut. Dut is even being hypothesized to teaty neuroinflammatory diseases like parkinsons and alzheimer's. Google dutasteride neuroinflammation. All the redditers talking about "muh neurosteroids" is top kek

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It’s only temporary. Your body re-adjust the ratio.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        yeah that's why so many people get permanent ed from it. lol it can irreversibly damage androgen receptors. even trt won't work for the thousands of men castrated by fin. 1400 lawsuits against merck are not a coincidence.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >it can irreversibly damage androgen receptors
          Are you moronic? Fin doesn't target androgen receptors at all, it only nukes 5 alpha reductase in order to cut back on your body's T -> DHT conversion.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        this only last for a few weeks
        this is a cope
        enjoy killing your dick and relying on drugs that permanently damage your neurosteroids

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It’s not gonna matter anyway because baldcels don’t get laid.

          So even if fin made you impotent it’s not like it’s gonna make a difference for you

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          My gf is still killing my dick after years on fin, is that what you meant?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >the stress, anxiety and social changes of going bald.
      Or you could just not give a frick because of good skull shape and good looking face.
      Sure, I looked better with hair, but I still facemogg most people.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    okay don't take it and go bald

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      enjoy counting the hairs on your shower wall, cueball freak

      https://i.imgur.com/o7BnU4V.gif

      Lmao hairlets getting troonet out

      >Don't take TRT it's a troony drug!

      Still though anyone who's going on fin should just get on topical fin instead.

      Thankfully I’m not balding at all, literally same hairline since I was a child. Just notice how many people are bald and it makes me smile knowing I’m not such a pathetic genetic failure that my little weenie hair folicals die form a little hormone.

      Bald men are weak men, keep taking your troony drug everyday for the rest of your life, your body will get accumulated to the drug and you balding is inevitable. You don’t take your little cope pill every morning all that fake hair is gonna fall out.

      Just accept your malding

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >same hairline since I was a child

        i'd stop saying that line if you're trying to convince people that you aren't balding, given all baldies say it and you've just exposed yourself as balding by saying it.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The absolute cope. You balding homosexuals really think everyone’s like you. Just take my troony drug man

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            im not balding at all because i take fin. no side-effects btw : )

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              You are balding homosexual as soon as your body adjusts to the drug and you stop the medication all of that hair will go.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The drug doesn't lose effectiveness, there are guys that have been on it for decades with no hair loss since starting

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            No tans people take finasteride alone. They have to take androgen receptor blockers otherwise estradiol doesnt have a feminizing effect. Finasteride actually increases testosterone

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              It increases test but also estrogen since your body tries to balance. Its not worth fricking with your hormones like that just make your own topical in a low dose.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Damn that israelite has way too much fun

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The only people I've ever heard use that hairline line are pre baldies in denial about signs they've recently noticed. Not looking so good friend, gonna be a rough fall for you especially with all that cognitive dissonance

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Heh he is balding just like me !!

          Keep coping you baldcel homosexual women hate you

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        don't worry you've provoked the norwood reaper now, so your time will come

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        If your 30+ your density is probably not the same. All men will bald given enough dht exposure over time just like all men will get prostate cancer if they arent killed by something else first. Finasteride has shown go retain effectiveness for hair over a 10 year study

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        post body

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because people know they can make money off it, plain and simple

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Its a generic drug, only ones who make money are online doc selling scripts. Drug itself is dirt cheap

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    enjoy counting the hairs on your shower wall, cueball freak

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    theres a global agenda being pushed to feminize men
    countless of lives ruined by this drug and now people dont even question it
    its crazy but thats just reality now

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You know what else can feminizes men? DHT. It can convert to an estrogen receptor beta agonist called 3 beta adiol. DHT also supresses T production through gondotropin supression

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Total T goes up on finasteride because less T is being converted to DHT. I wish people stopped making shit up to fit their own headcannon

        how the frick do i get an rx for this

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          you can use the GoodRx app and obtain a prescription for fin within the hour, through a $40 virtual consultation. Its so fricking easy. And then they give you a coupon for the script that drops the price from like $137 to $13. GoodRx is insanely goated

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Millions take it and are fine. Mentally unstable hypochondriacs get PFS because they read about it online forums even though no studies show that PFS exists aside from the ones paid for by the PFS foundation

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Don't take TRT it's a troony drug!

    Still though anyone who's going on fin should just get on topical fin instead.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Lmao hairlets getting troonet out

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't you save money for a hair transplant?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      u still have to take finasteride/dutasteride to prevent future hairloss + the transplanted hair can still fall out. the only option to "having hair" without drugs or surgery for balding men are hair systems.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Trannies also eat food and use toilets, we should stop doing those things because theyre for trannies

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    hey idiots! women like a maturing hairline
    also women like your hair buzzed
    stop being feminine and dick down some b***hes!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      let's see what the femcels think:
      https://crystal dot cafe/b/res/140970.html

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        women incels are man-hating creatures who look for known insecurities of men (wiener, height, hair) to attack them as a whole
        it's a projection of their own insecurities and it's the same exact thing as a guy incel shitting on women for all being prostitutes and roasties
        but do you follow guy incel rhetoric? I hope not

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I think a lot of these feelings we see from either side are exagerrated because of the medium we use. Most people are reasonable if you can engage in good faith. That being said, both men and women harp on the hairline so it is something we can assume we sexually select by. If it's only a means to a shit test, it's still a barrier to mating. Not that it's as important as bodily symmetry, height, jawline and such, but you can't do much to change those aside from costly surgery. I take 0.5mg of fin and topical minox every other day to maintain my hairline so I don't need to freak out about it ten years down the line. My brother lost almost all his hair at 25 and even though he's ripped he looks like shit if he doesn't shave often enough. For me, just doing the most basic advice from IST, IST, /misc/, IST and IST have markedly raised my status in almost every arena. I think IST saved my life tbh

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            women prefer masculine
            buzzed hair = masculine
            I proudly buzz my hair with a great hairline and my dad (75) still tries to maintain his hair; it's depressing
            hair is the real test of a man

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              It’s ironic because Meeks is balding too, does not have a strong jaw, and married a fat albeit rich israelite. Dude does look good from the front in pictures though

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                masculine
                that's it
                every point you put into looking more masculine is how you sexually attract women
                women work tirelessly to seem feminine, even if they wish they were born a guy; so should men

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >women prefer masculine
              Only women who are not on the pill

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          why do you have this trash morons saved? women never contributed anything to society other than shitting out children and pissing shitting and ripping themselves in the process.

          women are trash.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >teenage girls lift weights twice a week and read IST tier books
          What an absolute load of horse shit lmao

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            have you left the house in the last 5 years old fatty?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        no one cares what crystalcafe roasties think zoomer

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Anyone attractive without hair would be more attractive with it. Just a fact.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        you're not a woman
        women like masculine guys
        do you not aim for sexual attraction?
        realize this, think about this, understand this
        women and men are very different
        if my pic had a wiener he'd be fricked for life
        but she has a pussy so she's good to go
        understand? we are different
        hair is no different
        shave it.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Meaningless ramble. A full head of hair is a symbol of vitality.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            how you express yourself and what you say is a sign of vitality
            you are old, bitter, and encrusted
            now look in the mirror
            smile
            and shave your head.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              stop schizocoping please
              will not respond further

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          pls give name. Im sure i've jerked off to her but i've forgotten the name.For the love of god pls someone help a coomer out

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >dick down
      this is a word exclusively used by porn addicted incels

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    you guys realise that water in a higher doses will kill you right?

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    they probably take it to stop mpb to not look like trannies.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Remember these threads that are complaining about them are pruned yet the advertisement threads are shilled and jannies (trannies) don't do shit.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    ^shut the frick up homosexual

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    More men are comfortable about talking about it now. There isn't as much pressure to just give in to hair loss when these drugs are available.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Should I buzz my hair if I have a receding hairline

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Just go to Turkey and get hair transplant done.
    No need for finasteride.
    Keep your hair, keep your masculinity, keep your dick
    Perfect

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Not how it works brother, your HT doctor will say the same.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        No, it depends on your hair loss. Not everybody goes full bald.
        My friend lost just his temples, got transplants and after 10 years he looks the same. No meds.
        But I agree, this is like playing russian roulette

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          He says no meds but he's on meds

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Body hair, baldness, prostate enlargement = masculinity? Yeah ok. What is andropause?

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that this is the guy on IST telling you to just shave it bro

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      he cute

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >troonys take that same drug in higher doses to transition
    Yeah, I wonder what's the difference between just 1mg of Dutasteride and a shiton of anti-androgens and oral, parental and transdermal estrogen doses.
    combined with

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There is cyanide in almonds. Think about that for a while.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Dude, why are you eating? is the same thing that makes people fat

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The drug doesn't lose effectiveness, there are guys that have been on it for decades with no hair loss since starting

      Eating food is so comparable to taking a drug which changes your hormones. What’s the point of having hair so women find you attractive if you can’t literally frick them ? I can’t believe guys take this fricking shit

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    completely wrong... you are thinking of spironolactone which is an androgen blocker. Fin is an inhibitor one subtype of 5-ar, which is an enzyme responsible for converting test to DHT. Fin only partially inhibits that conversion though. I get a sense tho that you're not making your post in good faith and it's just bad bait

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Any nickers?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yea do you reckon nick takes medical therapy for his hair loss? Feel like he would be really insecure about going bald considering his a Norwood 3.5 at 24 years old

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    That's a lie. Trannies take estradiol and other estrogen derivatives to suppress natural T production, finasteride increases T levels by preventing conversion to DHT.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Trannies do take fin but they take 5-10mg of it

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Let me break it down for you fricking morons. Finasteride keeps testosterone from converting to DHT. Normal DHT levels in men are 14 to 77 ng/dL. People who bald typically have very high DHT levels. Finasteride does not eliminate all testosterone from being converted to DHT and can help get your DHT into those ranges.

    OP is trolling and every single moron who is too stupid to Google needs to cull themselves from the gene pool. Seriously, if you read this OP and thought "herp derp I'm not gonna take Finasteride derp herp" literally go buy a gun this weekend and have a nice day in the head

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Op here I’m not trolling. I refuse to believe you guys actually take a hormone altering medication. The fact that trannies take it in higher dosages and it can make you impotent for ever. I would rather the bald

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >I would rather the bald
        you say that now but just wait

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >not a single suggestion of progesterone ITT
    >not even a single suggestion of pregnenolone
    this entire board is ngmi

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >just take random hormones because a youtuber told you to bro

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        forum schizos, actually
        >b-b-but test causes male pattern baldness
        tell me what age testosterone starts dropping off then tell me when male pattern baldness starts setting in, then realize how moronic that argument is
        >b-b-but DHT
        necessary for proper moderation of hair growth, high DHT being associated in men with MPB just means the DHT isn't being moderated by other hormones; it isn't that they have too much DHT, it's that they don't have enough cortisol et al
        sneed and keep eating your zogslop

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          but people with 5-ar mutations or who were castrated have full heads of hair

          also fina/duta work so what are you even trying to say

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            DHT peaks in the age range you expect a full head of hair, and drops of over time as hair loss increases. if DHT caused hair loss, you'd expect 25 year olds to be bald and 80 year olds to have mullets. of course application of hormone antagonists will have all sorts of effects in hormone regulation.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              But fina and duta works and people who no dht during most/all of their lives don't go bald

              Whatever alternative theory you have needs to account for this

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                no, your theory needs to account for the fact that levels of DHT in the scalp are high in men with and without MPB. simply stating that high DHT = hair loss is tantamount to saying that high creatinine = failing liver. not only are the not causal, they aren't even directly related!

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                men differ genetically in their sensitivity to DHT in their scalp hair

                done

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                the issue is that no such a gene has ever been found
                the male pattern hair growth gene is identhical for everyone

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Brainlet. Look at the ratios. When men have hair, teens early 20s, T:DHT ratio is at its highest. Hight T means less DHT binding due to T blocking more androgen receptors. Once andropause starts and T starts to decline, DHT becomes more active and the negstive effects manifest more

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                yeah crazy it's almost like balding is a symptom of too little T and that the proper treatment is increasing it via precursors such as progesterone

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Good luck with that if you have high 5ar enzymes, progesterone is a substrate for that too. Also, look at the chemical structure of finasteride and progesterone, they are analogous

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >high 5ar hormones
                and pray tell how that happens
                >muh genetics
                bullshit, don't give me the same excuse fatties do

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    haha I just don't care haha, I'm not going to take the troony pills haha sorry! Caring about your hair is a bit too womanly of a trait for me

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    just eat the rogaine

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >have bad dandruff
    >bad acne
    >dry skin in general
    >start losing hair age 22
    my skin hates me

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      dht causes acne

      try fin

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        doesn't that lower overall T?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          no it raises T

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Dont use fin, dont use minox

    Go bald

    I want everyone depressed and stressed with life

    I want a new world war

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Wait is that Nick Fuentes??? The America First host on cozy.tv/nick ??? Interesting of OP to promote him on fit.

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    People saying to take finasteride, please post body. From the anecdotes of lower mood, weaker erections, and smaller/watery ejaculations it does seem like it is messing with other hormone balances and it’s not just a simple decrease DHT/increase free T. The lower mental energy is most concerning for me, who is considering cycling test e just for the focus gains.
    I haven’t seen enough anecdotes of fin asteroids effect on before/after body composition and strength.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      you're going to take hormones that will make you bald and give you heart and liver disease but you won't take a widely prescribed drug with marginal side effects (if any)

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't Nick half mexican? I thought mexicans were immune to balding

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      His father is half mexican, so Nick is probably like 25% and the photo is shooped look at his hand shadow

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Photo isn’t shopped at all. It’s literally a direct screenshot from stream. His hairline is fricked and he tries to conceal with his zoomer mutt haircut where he leaves it long at the front so he can comb over his recession.

        If you look at photos of him since 2017 his hairline was even receding back then. If anything he would 100% be taking fin

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >speculating
          The photo is literally shopped. Look at the photos of him now and in 2018, it's the same.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I thought mexicans were immune to balding
      Where'd you hear this shit? Have you ever even been to México?

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    you may not realize this now, but balding is literally the male version of hitting the wall. At one point I had to shave my full head of curls something and I went from an 8/10 to a 4/10. Female attention vanished. And this is from a guy who literally used to model when he was younger, so God help the average folk who are 6/10s even with their hair. You will realize this when you shave your head. If you don't have hair, and don't have money, do not expect to get your dick wet more than once a year from a pity frick. Advice from an older man. Keep it as long as you can, it's the difference between being that guy who is married and having his wife cheat on him

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If I take fin to keep my hair but get ED can’t I just take viagra. I only get like 2 fricks a year if I’m lucky and it’s always one night stands.

      So if I just pop a blue pill when I need to frick I’ll be alright right? Or is the ED that bad viagra can’t help you

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Fin is only reported to have those sides in about 3% of men, and it's not controlled for age. You seem to believe it's a given.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I already have Erectile issues that I believe are psychological from jerking off everyday since 2012. It takes me ages to get hard with a chick and 3 years ago with my gf I had no problems.

          I already know that if I take fin I will get ED because I will placebo myself into getting. So should I just viagra Max and cope with it

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        fin doesn't cause ED, and if you're paranoid just use RU58841 instead, It's topical fin

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Black person fin causes ED less than the placebo trials in half the studies, people get ED because they think they will, brcause theyre depressed about losing hair and their self image, or theyre already old fat fricks at the age of balding who are also at the age of getting ED. If you get ED go to a therapist or swith to topical if youre really that vulnerable to the power of suggestion

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          90% of ED is dudes wanking off way to much and watching porn everyday which desensitises you to having sex with a real women.

          If you have ED don’t watch porn or jerk off for 2 months

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldnt say thats a bad hairline. It certainly is receding, but I unironically find widows peaks to be peak masculine as long as they dont get out of hand
    Pic related is Andy Garcia in the Oceans Eleven movie

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Widows peaks arent recession, horeshoe hairlines are. I've had a widows peak since birth, so do plenty of guys and girls, it's due to genetic placement of the hair growth planes not recession although a receding hairline looks quite similar.

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >zoomers are starting balding

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I’m a zoomer and I know 2 guys who are completely bald. Born 2001

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        This happens because sometimes it skips generations. I am 26 and my best friend balded completely at 16.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >2001

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >take this magic pill that will fix your insecurity
    >has side affects
    >cope / denial begins
    >b-but it's only 5% of my total test!!!
    >i-it reduces dht! Therefore good!!!
    Fintrannies absolutely seething. Bigphara has completely brainwashed you by playing on your insecurity "looksism".
    Enjoy being a trannie i guess.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sorry you didnt take fin earlier and you lost all your hair and are now bitter about it and want to crabs in a bucket everyone around you because they still have hope

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >passive-aggressive
        >false sense of superiority
        >projecting emotional states
        look what fin did to you bro, lmao you're basically a woman

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Zoomies are a curse on this website.
          The age range needs to be moved to 30+.
          Braindead posts everywhere.

          post hair right now

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >damage control
            Not showing any PI

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Zoomies are a curse on this website.
        The age range needs to be moved to 30+.
        Braindead posts everywhere.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, take troony drugs to fix your problems. What are you afraid of, becoming stunning and brave? Lmao.

      https://i.imgur.com/ko5EJmq.jpg

      >yea I take fin bro, how did you know?

      all me btw

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >yea I take fin bro, how did you know?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i would frick that so hard bros. whatever call me a gay i dont care my dick unironically got hard seeing this pic, dont care

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I've been on fin for maybe a month and a half to two months at most with 1mg every monday. What I've noticed
    >got fin dick week 3
    >realized I had norwood 3 vortex due to the shedding in the beginning of fin
    >still shedding now but I have a shit ton of long thick hair to my shoulders anyway

    Soooo I started taking 1g of tongkat ali and that completely fixed my fin dick and now honestly my dick feels thicker and longer due to more blood into that b***h. I also have noticed my hairline which is the first thing I noticed going due to me loving my bangs and they started getting wispy was baby hairs starting to sprout out at where my original hairline was. The baby hairs vary in lengths but are starting to become more pronounced to the point my temples seem fuller. I'm not saying I'm recovered but it does look promising.Also this is without using minox.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >take more drugs to fix the other drugs problem
      Genuis!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Tongkat is extremely based, I fell for the SSRI meme and it broke my dick for years. Tried tongkat on a whim and everything just... works. I stopped taking it and once in a while I’ll have trouble getting it up if I’ve been drinking or something (but I’m also 10 years older than I was when I started SSRIs, and some things can’t be helped)

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    ps finasteride can be mixed into a solution and applied topically

    it's just as effective but doesn't lower system DHT near as much, only locally in the scalp

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Buy finastride!
      The magic pilk that will fix all of your delusions.
      I don't doubt your hair is back, but i'm looking forward until 2 years later when you all report back with gyno and erection problems.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        you didn't read what I said

        when applied topically, it only lowers DHT in the scalp. locally. not systemic.

        does not get to the liver, doesn't mess with your overall hormones. only in the scalp.

        additionally, it's effective in 0.1mg - 0.2mg. you don't need to use the 1mg, or god forbid 5mg, that is normally prescribed.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe.
          I'm not buying it

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            ok

            here is a study on it from 2021

            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6609098/#!po=84.2857

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              that's not how fin works, fin has to go systemic because it targets the 5-ar in the prostate

              whoops here is the better study:

              https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34634163/

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                chart on efficacy of topical vs. systemic (taking a pill)

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                We're not arguing the efficiency, we're trying to point out that fin turns you into a troony.
                Nothing in that article or anything you posted disproves this

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                see

                https://i.imgur.com/YBwRPlb.jpg

                [...]
                [...]

                full study: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jdv.17738

                efficacy is almost identical while overall systemic DHT reduction is half

                keep in mind they are using a larger dose in the study than is necessary, too

                just use a 0.1 - 0.2mg dose and sides are basically nonexistent

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Been using 0.35mg topically daily for a couple of months and I got no sides aside from shedding for like 3 weeks or so. My hair looks healthier now and I've got some new hairs growing on my temples. Overall breddy gud, lads with more aggressive balding than me might not be able to maintain their hair at this dose though.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                that's not how fin works, fin has to go systemic because it targets the 5-ar in the prostate

                Maybe.
                I'm not buying it

                full study: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jdv.17738

                efficacy is almost identical while overall systemic DHT reduction is half

                keep in mind they are using a larger dose in the study than is necessary, too

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          that's not how fin works, fin has to go systemic because it targets the 5-ar in the prostate

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            see

            ok

            here is a study on it from 2021

            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6609098/#!po=84.2857

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.center4research.org/taking-propecia-or-proscar-to-prevent-hair-loss-is-associated-with-depression-anxiety-and-sexual-problems/

  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that the bald bros discord has people raid every hair thread to talk shit about finasteride. Any time you hear the term "troony pills" its them.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why do they get so triggered about fin. Some of the horror stories I’ve herd about fin is holohoux tier. One guy claimed his penis Shrunk 4 inches

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They see people with hair the same way fat people on twitter see skinny people. Just a very vindictive group of people.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I remember this guy I was friends with in high school who was obsessed over peoples hairlines and shit. Would always be like

          >your going bald bro

          I never really gave a frick about other peoples hair but I saw him recently and he must have been hiding his hairline with a comb over fringe because his hairlines fricked now. Goes to show people who bald get really vindictive and angry. Kinda like incels who get angry at guys who get laid.

          They are just jealous

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I don't have discord.
      Fintrannies can't cope with the fact that they fricked up

  49. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    eunuchs never go bald either. is having balls just a cope? who here ready to the eunuchpill?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It makes you taller too, half of fit wishing they were desexed now

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        based. having balls is just a baldcel manlet cope. not like they'll ever use them anyways. most complaints of ed and depression after ball removal is just placebo anyways. plus it's been proven that castrated males live longer too!

  50. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Finsisters did we get too wienery???
    How will we convince IST to take fin???

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      the NW2 -> NW3 transition usually wakes people up but sometimes people still cope with muh mature hairline at that stage and wait till they have a bald spot to do anything.

  51. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    HOW IS HE ALREADY BALD HES LIKE 22 LMAO

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      hes a test tube baby for real

  52. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    In the balkans we just put raw eggs in hair and a few drops of olive oil. I did for a month and I have since seen volume increase and baby hairs along the entire hairline.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's a vitamins thing, sort of like using the ket shampoo. Doesn't stop the miniaturization though.

  53. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >diffuse thinning
    >have to try to get my topical minox/finox down to scalp level
    >most just winds up on my fingers and in my hair after dropping it where I've parted

  54. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    30 year old. The thin has set in I experimented with min and topical liposomal dutasteride for a year but felt like I was poluting my body and planet so I quit. Then I found a lot of anecdotal evidence of massages working. I am doing massage + microneedling now and I have new double size diameter hairs everywhere I was thinning and balding. Even on my hairline in the front. I will now look into compressoon exersiz cause skull expansion theory seems to hold value I inspected many balding and non balding scalps.

    It's very obvious for me massage and microneedling works cause my new hair I'm seeing is double diameter than any existing hair even hair on the side where I'm not balding its also a lot darker. I think microneedling stimulates dormant hair follicles and massage keeps them fed well (bloodflow / nutrient increase )

    Fin and min trannies don't believe massage works but they are bottom of the barrel hair genetics. I'm not sure it will work if you experience agressive balding.

    In a well oxigenized scalp environment T converts into estrogen instead of DHT. DHT is an anti inflammatory agent. Your scalp is inflamed cause of chronic tension and scalp expansion.

    Oh you need to use duckduckgo for hair loss research. Google pushes content that makes chemical drug sales happen, same for YouTube search. You won't find much using Google only pill and drug push articles

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      See you in 3 years when you've lost another norwood

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Projecting

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The only thing that's going to be projecting is your bald head in a few years when it's blank enough to watch movies off of

  55. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Hair loss gays have been shitting up several boards for years. It is not a troony conspiracy.

  56. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Who cares about hair, i'm a great person and girls love me for my personality and because i'm so cool.

  57. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Could Fin pills help with the balding corners like in Nicks photo op posted?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe a little bit, but mainly it would prevent it from getting worse.

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